WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from December 16, 2019

Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Tchtntrs!
	6:00pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey Mark and Techtonicals
	6:01pm kevlicki: Yellow rechnophoids!
	6:01pm China_Defender&mouseoftodayPledger_is_back: hi mark! hi fmu!
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Mark! Techtonicpeople!
	6:02pm Fuzzy: High there!
	6:02pm Carmichael: Aloha Amigos.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: H, Mrk nd th vwlfr tchtncs!
	🤖 6:03pm herb.nyc: smarter - he who or that which smarts!
	🤖 6:04pm herb.nyc: oops, smartr.
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: My swimming pool sharing company may or may not be called Airpnp. Still thinking of a good name for it.
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Oops ... the bodily fluids sharing company (ewww!) has already claimed that name.
	🤖 6:06pm herb.nyc: Ken Hyde Park mentions swimming pools - I learned of SWIMPLY. a pool sharing app. ha ha.
	6:06pm Carmichael: I had to search for BirchBox.
	6:07pm ultradamno: Spy on a shelf? Yep.
	🤖 6:08pm Bas NL: I get positively influenced scrolling down this comments board...
	6:13pm Phillippe Bastille: The model is flawed, I believe. Toys R Us needs to also capture audio so they know why the parent drags the screaming kid away from the shelf. "Come on, honey, that costs too much" "You're not old enough for that" "Santa will bring it to you" "DON'T YOU TALK BACK TO ME!!! WE'RE LEAVING!!"
	🤖 6:14pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, Swimply stole my pool idea. Don't tell me someone's already thought up a way for people to share their electric car-charging hardware in their garages.
	6:15pm ultradamno: Yeah, that is not something you want to hear.
	6:17pm Megaroni: Yes, thank you for continuing to call out this horrible corporation!
	🤖 6:17pm herb.nyc: hmm, for those who don't like their mothers-in-law, buy them a SURVEILLANCE device! I recommend AMAZON.
	6:18pm Fredericks: Blame the victim, as usual.
	🤖 6:19pm herb.nyc: so funny, it's xmas season and we're told to buy things, but mark is stressing NOT TO BUY something.
	6:20pm RustyTiki: I’ve seen a lot about the Ring story. In the future, can you look into Wyze.com cams. Greatly appreciated
	6:20pm TDK60: Hi Mark. Haven't been here in a while.
	🤖 6:20pm chresti: Throw it away responsibly
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: 10 episodes? why not do like Spinal Tap, with ELEVEN episodes!
	🤖 6:21pm chresti: Hi Mark, listening at a distance, not near the "dumb" terminal.
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone! TDK, welcome back!
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: @chresti good point. herb.nyc can advise us as to the LES e-waste disposal calendar!
	6:24pm Fredericks: This guy says "yeah/no" frequently.
	🤖 6:25pm Ken From Hyde Park: Homer Simpson is Smartr, too. youtu.be...
	🤖 6:25pm herb.nyc: (pause - there's a cute French bulldog here at soho apple store)
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @herb get them to put Techtonic on the fancy store-wide audio system
	6:26pm spodiodi: Castlevania lol
	6:26pm melinda: hi everyone
	🤖 6:27pm herb.nyc: "...how ideas form...", haha. just go into a shower, many ideas will ideate! / Techtonic audio, yeah. then get sued by Technics!
	🤖 6:28pm herb.nyc: e-waste, at a real site. or at pop-ups. www.lesecologycenter.org...
	🤖 6:29pm herb.nyc: "how Facebook is killing comedy". I thought Carrot Top is doing that. (drum roll)
	6:30pm Phillippe Bastille: @herb.nyc hey, here's an idea: we should develop a bluetooth showerhead mic so we can record those great thoughts and send them over our home network
	6:30pm melinda: I thought Ring was designed for outdoor surveillance (which is bad enough) but people are surveilling their own families in their bedrooms?!
	🤖 6:33pm herb.nyc: re blueteeth showerhead mic, let's give it a morality. like, any morality.
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: Welcome to my job interview life! upshot: still unemployed
	6:36pm Phillippe Bastille: The Ring story makes me think there's a need to update The Ring horror movie. Samara doesn't crawl out of the tv, it crawls out of the Ring camera. Product placement directly in the movie title.
	6:36pm Phillippe Bastille: *she not it
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: @WebHen hope it turns around soon.
	🤖 6:37pm Bas NL: Cameras and AI could detect emergent criminal tendencies in young children... hmmm.. good business model?
	6:38pm ultradamno: So did anyone, as a result of being a listener of this show, find the finale of HBO Silicon Valley (the creators kill Pied Piper because of it's inevitable catastrophic consequences) to be naive?
	6:39pm TDK60: Sorry to be negative, Bas; bad freedom model.
	6:40pm Phillippe Bastille: @Bas we kind of already have that in the U.S. All kinds of profiling going on.
	🤖 6:44pm Webhamster Henry: Is the podcast available on Cassette? #hipstr
	🤖 6:45pm herb.nyc: mark: "...dont leave me hanging, what are you working on next?". them: "well, I wanted to paint the 2nd bedroom, and..."
	🤖 6:45pm Bas NL: He, he... it would need some further study to add positive corrective technology.. Sub-dermal Bluetooth cattle prod? That could easily go to other markets..
	6:45pm P-90: Now I’ll have to check out their podcast...
	6:46pm ultradamno: The Hallmark Christmas movie plot generator forgot elf sent by Santa to reignite someone's faith in the season.
	🤖 6:46pm herb.nyc: I see the podcasts here - luminarypodcasts.com...
	6:47pm ultradamno: Oh, and that elf is either Bailee Madison, Amy Acker or Summer Glau.
	6:48pm ultradamno: ...possibly Alicia Witt, though she usually gets the disillusioned career woman roles.
	6:48pm spodiodi: anxiety snakes
	6:49pm coelacanth∅: hahaha "calming heroin of television"!
	🤖 6:49pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i love this program, thank you, Mark!!!
	6:50pm disastrogirl: Is yelling man based on Henry Rollins?
	6:50pm Michael 98145: love that crèche
	6:51pm coelacanth∅: hit it with a sledgehammer first, so it can't be recycled by being sold again in tact.
	6:52pm JakeGould: Would machine learning decide to kill baby Hitler? Or kill baby Yoda?
	🤖 6:52pm Webhamster Henry: cf. Minority Report...
	6:53pm ultradamno: I could see a Ring update where Sadako comes out of the screen when you go through the Amazon Prime free trial and try not to up to pay status.
	6:53pm spodiodi: JakeGould, yes.
	🤖 6:54pm tim from champaign (now washington): Surveillence in the home for "safety" is sick.
	6:55pm Fredericks: I only became "aware' of Ring when we got new neighbors a couple of weeks ago. They put a big sign out front advertising it. Otherwise I won't have known.
	🤖 6:55pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	6:55pm JakeGould: Machine learning would see Hitler as a human baby and let it live. Baby Yoda would be euthanized on the spot. THERE YOU GO!!!
	6:55pm Michael 98145: Philip K. Dick was a prophet.
	6:55pm melinda: @tim I agree. People seem to be suckers for surveillance.
	6:55pm northguineahills: safety? I don't even lock my house or car doors....
	🤖 6:56pm sbw: Many of my family roll their eyes when I worry about surveillance. They understand the issue, but they "don't have anything to hide." I should just shut up, I guess.
	6:56pm Phillippe Bastille: Andy Breckman needs to do a fill-in
	6:56pm spodiodi: funny stuff -- thanks Matt & Sam! thanks, Mark Hurst!
	6:56pm Michael 98145: "Alexa, why am i paranoid" ...?
	6:56pm ultradamno: It's like muppet babies and baby groot never existed. Selfish infant space buddhists.
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: Andy spent half of last week's show shilling for tips.
	6:57pm coelacanth∅: Fredericks don't wait for a self-driving car to take out that sign.
	6:57pm spodiodi: lol Michael
	6:57pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Mark. Bye everyone.
	6:57pm melinda: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: I'll add Smartr fro my podcast list!
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark
	🤖 6:58pm tim from champaign (now washington): Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm listener 126464: Thanks Mark
	6:59pm Fuzzy: Thanks, Mark!
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Send that Amazon stuff back to their headquarters, or maybe Jeff Bezos' compound?

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from December 16, 2019

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Mon. Nov 25th, 6pm - 7pm: Technology we're thankful for (More info...)
Amidst all the headlines about predatory tech companies and misbehaving billionaires, we're taking a moment to remember that some tech is actually good. Drawing on listener submissions, Mark will discuss the tools, gadgets, and systemsthat people are genuinely thankful for.
Mon. Dec 23rd, 6pm - 7pm: Don Fleming guest hosts Techtonic

December 16, 2019: Matt Klinman and Sam West, creators of "Smartr" podcast series

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Tonight: Matt Klinman and Sam West, creators of "Smartr" - a 10-episode podcast series.

• Smartr podcast, from Luminary Media and Team Coco.

• @mattklinman and @SWestKing on Twitter

• Matt Klinman on Techtonic - Feb 19, 2018 on "how Facebook is killing comedy"

In tech news:

• Ring says it will introduce new security features after hackers broke into a camera in an 8-year-old's bedroom, where they could watch and talk to the child (Business Insider, Dec 13)

• Somebody’s Watching: Hackers Breach Ring Home Security Cameras (New York Times, Dec 15): "Unnerved owners of the devices reported recent hacks in four states. [Amazon] reminded customers not to recycle passwords and user names. ... In Waterbury, Conn., Ed Slaughter told NBC Connecticut last week that he felt “violated” after a hacker started yelling obscenities and woke up his mother-in-law, who had been sleeping in the basement where he had installed a Ring camera."

To review...

1. Parents put Amazon Ring surveillance camera in child's bedroom

2. Ring device is hacked, child terrorized in her bedroom

3. Amazon reassures parents: don't worry, just choose a better password next time

Better solution: DON'T BUY AMAZON RING.

• How do local Md. governments spend money from speed cameras? Here’s what AAA found out. (Washington Post, Dec 12): Fines from surveillance speed cameras "helps to pay for fingerprint scanners, law enforcement dogs, fees for data storage of body-worn camera video, and license plate reader equipment." Surveillance funds more surveillance.

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	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with Matt Klinman and Sam West	0:17:23 (Pop-up)
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Listener comments!
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Tchtntrs!
	6:00pm Phillippe Bastille: Hey Mark and Techtonicals
	6:01pm kevlicki: Yellow rechnophoids!
	6:01pm China_Defender&mouseoftodayPledger_is_back: hi mark! hi fmu!
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Mark! Techtonicpeople!
	6:02pm Fuzzy: High there!
	6:02pm Carmichael: Aloha Amigos.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: H, Mrk nd th vwlfr tchtncs!
	🤖 6:03pm herb.nyc: smarter - he who or that which smarts!
	🤖 6:04pm herb.nyc: oops, smartr.
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: My swimming pool sharing company may or may not be called Airpnp. Still thinking of a good name for it.
	🤖 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Oops ... the bodily fluids sharing company (ewww!) has already claimed that name.
	🤖 6:06pm herb.nyc: Ken Hyde Park mentions swimming pools - I learned of SWIMPLY. a pool sharing app. ha ha.
	6:06pm Carmichael: I had to search for BirchBox.
	6:07pm ultradamno: Spy on a shelf? Yep.
	🤖 6:08pm Bas NL: I get positively influenced scrolling down this comments board...
	6:13pm Phillippe Bastille: The model is flawed, I believe. Toys R Us needs to also capture audio so they know why the parent drags the screaming kid away from the shelf. "Come on, honey, that costs too much" "You're not old enough for that" "Santa will bring it to you" "DON'T YOU TALK BACK TO ME!!! WE'RE LEAVING!!"
	🤖 6:14pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, Swimply stole my pool idea. Don't tell me someone's already thought up a way for people to share their electric car-charging hardware in their garages.
	6:15pm ultradamno: Yeah, that is not something you want to hear.
	6:17pm Megaroni: Yes, thank you for continuing to call out this horrible corporation!
	🤖 6:17pm herb.nyc: hmm, for those who don't like their mothers-in-law, buy them a SURVEILLANCE device! I recommend AMAZON.
	6:18pm Fredericks: Blame the victim, as usual.
	🤖 6:19pm herb.nyc: so funny, it's xmas season and we're told to buy things, but mark is stressing NOT TO BUY something.
	6:20pm RustyTiki: I’ve seen a lot about the Ring story. In the future, can you look into Wyze.com cams. Greatly appreciated
	6:20pm TDK60: Hi Mark. Haven't been here in a while.
	🤖 6:20pm chresti: Throw it away responsibly
	🤖 6:20pm herb.nyc: 10 episodes? why not do like Spinal Tap, with ELEVEN episodes!
	🤖 6:21pm chresti: Hi Mark, listening at a distance, not near the "dumb" terminal.
	6:22pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone! TDK, welcome back!
	6:23pm Mark Hurst: @chresti good point. herb.nyc can advise us as to the LES e-waste disposal calendar!
	6:24pm Fredericks: This guy says "yeah/no" frequently.
	🤖 6:25pm Ken From Hyde Park: Homer Simpson is Smartr, too. youtu.be...
	🤖 6:25pm herb.nyc: (pause - there's a cute French bulldog here at soho apple store)
	6:26pm Mark Hurst: @herb get them to put Techtonic on the fancy store-wide audio system
	6:26pm spodiodi: Castlevania lol
	6:26pm melinda: hi everyone
	🤖 6:27pm herb.nyc: "...how ideas form...", haha. just go into a shower, many ideas will ideate! / Techtonic audio, yeah. then get sued by Technics!
	🤖 6:28pm herb.nyc: e-waste, at a real site. or at pop-ups. www.lesecologycenter.org...
	🤖 6:29pm herb.nyc: "how Facebook is killing comedy". I thought Carrot Top is doing that. (drum roll)
	6:30pm Phillippe Bastille: @herb.nyc hey, here's an idea: we should develop a bluetooth showerhead mic so we can record those great thoughts and send them over our home network
	6:30pm melinda: I thought Ring was designed for outdoor surveillance (which is bad enough) but people are surveilling their own families in their bedrooms?!
	🤖 6:33pm herb.nyc: re blueteeth showerhead mic, let's give it a morality. like, any morality.
	🤖 6:34pm Webhamster Henry: Welcome to my job interview life! upshot: still unemployed
	6:36pm Phillippe Bastille: The Ring story makes me think there's a need to update The Ring horror movie. Samara doesn't crawl out of the tv, it crawls out of the Ring camera. Product placement directly in the movie title.
	6:36pm Phillippe Bastille: *she not it
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: @WebHen hope it turns around soon.
	🤖 6:37pm Bas NL: Cameras and AI could detect emergent criminal tendencies in young children... hmmm.. good business model?
	6:38pm ultradamno: So did anyone, as a result of being a listener of this show, find the finale of HBO Silicon Valley (the creators kill Pied Piper because of it's inevitable catastrophic consequences) to be naive?
	6:39pm TDK60: Sorry to be negative, Bas; bad freedom model.
	6:40pm Phillippe Bastille: @Bas we kind of already have that in the U.S. All kinds of profiling going on.
	🤖 6:44pm Webhamster Henry: Is the podcast available on Cassette? #hipstr
	🤖 6:45pm herb.nyc: mark: "...dont leave me hanging, what are you working on next?". them: "well, I wanted to paint the 2nd bedroom, and..."
	🤖 6:45pm Bas NL: He, he... it would need some further study to add positive corrective technology.. Sub-dermal Bluetooth cattle prod? That could easily go to other markets..
	6:45pm P-90: Now I’ll have to check out their podcast...
	6:46pm ultradamno: The Hallmark Christmas movie plot generator forgot elf sent by Santa to reignite someone's faith in the season.
	🤖 6:46pm herb.nyc: I see the podcasts here - luminarypodcasts.com...
	6:47pm ultradamno: Oh, and that elf is either Bailee Madison, Amy Acker or Summer Glau.
	6:48pm ultradamno: ...possibly Alicia Witt, though she usually gets the disillusioned career woman roles.
	6:48pm spodiodi: anxiety snakes
	6:49pm coelacanth∅: hahaha "calming heroin of television"!
	🤖 6:49pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them): i love this program, thank you, Mark!!!
	6:50pm disastrogirl: Is yelling man based on Henry Rollins?
	6:50pm Michael 98145: love that crèche
	6:51pm coelacanth∅: hit it with a sledgehammer first, so it can't be recycled by being sold again in tact.
	6:52pm JakeGould: Would machine learning decide to kill baby Hitler? Or kill baby Yoda?
	🤖 6:52pm Webhamster Henry: cf. Minority Report...
	6:53pm ultradamno: I could see a Ring update where Sadako comes out of the screen when you go through the Amazon Prime free trial and try not to up to pay status.
	6:53pm spodiodi: JakeGould, yes.
	🤖 6:54pm tim from champaign (now washington): Surveillence in the home for "safety" is sick.
	6:55pm Fredericks: I only became "aware' of Ring when we got new neighbors a couple of weeks ago. They put a big sign out front advertising it. Otherwise I won't have known.
	🤖 6:55pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	6:55pm JakeGould: Machine learning would see Hitler as a human baby and let it live. Baby Yoda would be euthanized on the spot. THERE YOU GO!!!
	6:55pm Michael 98145: Philip K. Dick was a prophet.
	6:55pm melinda: @tim I agree. People seem to be suckers for surveillance.
	6:55pm northguineahills: safety? I don't even lock my house or car doors....
	🤖 6:56pm sbw: Many of my family roll their eyes when I worry about surveillance. They understand the issue, but they "don't have anything to hide." I should just shut up, I guess.
	6:56pm Phillippe Bastille: Andy Breckman needs to do a fill-in
	6:56pm spodiodi: funny stuff -- thanks Matt & Sam! thanks, Mark Hurst!
	6:56pm Michael 98145: "Alexa, why am i paranoid" ...?
	6:56pm ultradamno: It's like muppet babies and baby groot never existed. Selfish infant space buddhists.
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: Andy spent half of last week's show shilling for tips.
	6:57pm coelacanth∅: Fredericks don't wait for a self-driving car to take out that sign.
	6:57pm spodiodi: lol Michael
	6:57pm Phillippe Bastille: Thanks Mark. Bye everyone.
	6:57pm melinda: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:57pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: I'll add Smartr fro my podcast list!
	6:58pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark
	🤖 6:58pm tim from champaign (now washington): Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm listener 126464: Thanks Mark
	6:59pm Fuzzy: Thanks, Mark!
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: Send that Amazon stuff back to their headquarters, or maybe Jeff Bezos' compound?

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from December 16, 2019

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Listener comments!

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