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Above from Robot Tries to Escape from Children's Attack (IEEE, June 6, 2017)





Above two images from How to Build Robots People Can Relate To (WSJ, Oct 19).


Recent tech news:

Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home (BBC, Oct 15)

Will Oremus on Zuck's Georgetown speech

Mayor of Sardinian village blames Google Maps for lost tourists (Guardian, Oct 15): "Rescuers in Baunei called out 144 times in past year to save visitors from impassable roads... 'Google Maps does not take people to the places they want to go.'"

You Can Now License Your Face to Be Used on a Humanoid Robot (Oddity Central, Oct 18)

Help, I Can't Unsee These Faux-Flesh Phone Cases (Gizmodo, Oct 19)

Robot Realtors coming to a neighborhood near you (Tennessean, Oct 2): "Home buyers are being greeted by robots when a human sales person isn’t available on site. The robots, officially called Innovative Sales Consultants, are essentially like Segways with an iPad on top of it."

Palmer Luckey's military tech company Anduril is sending drone destroyers to conflict zones (Business Insider, Oct 3): "The firm says its new 'Interceptor' drone weighs about as much as a bowling ball and is capable of smashing other drones out of the sky."

People Are Brutally Assaulting Robots. Experts Want to Know Why

Humans attacking robots over mistrust and fears they will take their jobs (Daily Star, Sep 30)

British employees are deliberately sabotaging workplace robots over fears the machines will take their jobs, new study claims (Daily Mail, Sep 29)

Olivia Solon (Oct 8): "Someone tried to use the emergency call function on a robot 'police officer' after a fight broke out in an LA park and - surprise, surprise - it didn't actually call the police. Instead it called the robot's maker, iKnightscope ... The robot told the woman who pressed the emergency alert button to 'step out of the way.'"

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Listener comments!

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listener james from westwood:

Howdy Mark, Ken, listeners, thinly disguised cyborgs time-traveling in from a machine-ruled future, and Roombas.
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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Ken! Techs Machiñatas!
  6:00pm
Marley Dogg:

Ahooy ahooy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
-Ken:

Hi everybody!
  6:01pm
John from Florham park:

Hello fellow technoids
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Fuzzy:

Talk tech to me, baby!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Btw- Mark - get Kenzo on.
...He said I should promote this & I just have...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Good evening, Mark. Or possibly Robotic Mark. How would we tell?
Hey there, SMK (definitely not a robot). Hello, fellow Techtodrones.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Friends!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
ultradamno:

Hitchbot vs. Philadelphia www.cnn.com...
  6:03pm
Marley Dogg:

Sky net always wins
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Webhamster Henry:

I'm playing with training a GPT-2 in another window right now.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Webhamster Henry:

Play a bit from the famous "Robot Andy" 7SD show!
  6:04pm
kevlicki:

Hey mark and all. There’s an unusual app that was created for the Catalonian demonstrations Called tsunami democratic
Avatar 6:04pm
Carmichael:

Ken is answering questions through his BBS site.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
chresti:

Hello Techtoniacs and Mark
  6:04pm
kevlicki:

The app supposedly tells you where there’s a protest nearby that you can join
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
tim from champaign (now washington):

This is a subject made for X-Ray Burns.
  6:05pm
melinda:

Hi Mark, Ken and techtons!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...I want all the money - & all the control...& No Accountability!
...top of my CV...
  6:07pm
iiibeat:

From dictionary.com . .
Origin of robot

< Czech, coined by Karel Čapek in the play R.U.R. (1920) from the base robot-, as in robota compulsory labor, robotník peasant owing such labor
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
listener james from westwood:

Zuck would give his right ass cheek to get China on FB.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Folsom:

You have 20 seconds to comply!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
ultradamno:

Onion people talk back to Zuck's free speech manifesto www.theonion.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Ike:

So if I DL that app and put a lot of Winnie the Pooh memes on there, my phone will explode?
  6:08pm
iiibeat:

It's Czech, mate!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Fuzzy:

Best description of ZuckerBug I have seen: "a wax doll cursed to life."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Considering faceborg was started because he in fact had no social network...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Franco Twinkie:

Well, The New Yorker had a piece on Tic-Toc recently, written by a young-ish person who seemed to be exasperated and confounded by this latest time wasting obsession aimed at fourteen year olds. What next? Who Cares? Oh, I forgot those fourteen year olds are the new overloards. Bah!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Cartoon: Man entering friend's place:
'Alexa! Order 100 pizzas!'...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
ultradamno:

I'm intrigued on this licensing one's face for a humanoid robot idea, if only to have a potential patsy on hand.
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Ignatatus666:

I think we should be informed that the host has these devices
They are basically recording us without permission
  6:14pm
Dave Miss:

Hello from BK
  6:14pm
debt collector:

Of course zuckerberg is willing to take ads from everyone. Of course those with money who can pay for ads, those who have the most to gain from influencing people, those who have the most to lose from daylight will be those who have already extracted wealth from the rest of us. Capitalists, despots, and tyrants are winning the game and zuckerberg is their agent!!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Webhamster Henry:

@ultrademo: in the Marvel world, they're called "Live Model Decoys", or LMDs. In "Bill & Ted II", they are called "Robot Evil Us'es".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
listener james from westwood:

Remember Robert Williams, the first martyr to the robot menace: en.wikipedia.org...
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ɨkɛ:

Oh, maybe *this* is why Stop & Shop put big googly eyes on its robots!
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Ignatatus666:

I thought that robot was successful in making a lot of travel, then it was completely destroyed. I also remember the people doing the study did not want to seek who destroyed it nor press charges.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
ultradamno:

I think robot violence is higher in the UK because they're mistaken for daleks.
  6:18pm
Micheal:

Thank you to Philly for beheading a robot. That’s punk rock.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
listener james from westwood:

Doctor Who began early in seeding the way for the Butlerian Jihad.
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Ignatatus666:

I saw robots patrolling the airports in NYC and it kind of freaked me out a bit.
  6:19pm
John from Florham park:

@ultradammo or cyber men:)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Webhamster Henry:

Some early research on empathetic Robots: Kismet. web.media.mit.edu...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Daddy Hernlet:

The stop & shop I go to has a robot named Marty that detects spills in the aisles
  6:19pm
Marley Dogg:

Cylons have rights too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
listener james from westwood:

That clown robot on the playlist looks like Klaus Nomi shtupped RoboCop.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
JeremyB:

Ken should host a HUMAN vs ROBOT battle for the next marathon!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Daddy Hernlet:

I play chicken with him with the shopping cart
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
ɨkɛ:

@ultradamno & @LJfW, LOL LOL LOL
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ultradamno:

"My love for humans will never fade" - HitchBOT (set up by humans) www.hitchbot.me
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listener james from westwood:

Same here, @Daddy. Our emits a sinister beep that chills the blood when you hear it nearing.
  6:20pm
John from Florham park:

@Listener James from Westwood I see your a dune fan
  6:21pm
Jack:

I wonder how many of these commenters could pass a Turing Test?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Franco Twinkie:

My mother hits the faucet in the laundry sink with garden shears if she thinks it's dripping to much. Of course she brakes the faucet, and I have to fix it! I know a faucet isn't a robot, but if my mother had electronic devices, she would smash those too.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

The Simpsons has shown us that you can defeat violent robots by blasting them with camera flashes.
  6:22pm
greatb:

The worst part of the stop and shop robot? They're all called Marty!
  6:22pm
Jack:

I never claimed to be a human.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
listener james from westwood:

In my Stop & Shop, three kids had surrounded Marty the Killbot and it was going in small circles trying to find a way through. I left before its blue lights went red and it deployed its pulse laser.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Marvin - Paranoid Android...
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ultradamno:

In fairness, who doesn't want to kill this thing? twitter.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
JeremyB:

Wait a second... DOes Mark Hurst not know what a Dalek is?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Rand al'Thor:

Nitpick: Daleks aren't robots.
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Carmichael:

Robot Lives Matter.
  6:23pm
Tubie:

I just keep thinking of Chappie and Short Circuit
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
JeremyB:

@Rand... you're meant to think they are though
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Dalieks have a biologic core...after their creator...all the more faceborg really...
  6:24pm
debt collector:

I have a robot that feeds our cat when I’m away. I Love it. The cat loves it. Why would anyone attack that robot?
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Isn't that what happens to individual humans at the mall? Unless someone is accompanied by an adult, children descend on the lone person and is attacked.
  6:25pm
greatb:

Marty freaks out if there's so much as a baby carrot on the floor, maybe we're not in much trouble-- yet!
  6:26pm
debt collector:

@ken from Hyde park you are right how is it possible to tell if mark is a robot or not. He does spill the same seed every show about being against big tech. I mean I agree with him but it is repetition and if I were a robot psychologist I might say he has an issue with his parents, so to robotic speak.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Franco Twinkie:

Kids today have it made! When I was ten I had to settle for breaking windows and starting fires.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
ɨkɛ:

A bit of a tangent, perhaps, but season 11 of Doctor Who is very sad because it sucks so much. The Doctor finally regenerates into a woman and she gets stuck with shitty writing! That poor lady! Come on BBC, throw out this idiot showrunner and get a real writer! A Dalek could write the show better!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
ultradamno:

Roomba vs. Dog www.gadgetsarena.org...
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tim from champaign (now washington):

I don't condone wanton destruction but these stories are very satisfying to hear.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Reagan as Leader of Free World - AI composed Pop
...it's awlready after the end of the world...
  6:29pm
Listener Robert:

Children typically act violently toward dolls, so why wouldn't they do so to robots? It's all typical play, and I find it hilarious.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
ultradamno:

Do they (the scooters) still yell empty threats to call the police when disturbed?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
JeremyB:

This show isn't great for those of us trying to be less paranoid...
  6:30pm
Beepy:

The robot custodians at the mall wouldn’t run me over, would they?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Fuzzy:

The Uncanny Valley, starring robot Barbra Stanwyck.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
ultradamno:

They have drones in Battlebots, but they're useless.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'Frankenstein Syndrome'. Gotcha.
  6:32pm
kevlicki:

I heard a podcast interviewing professional drone racers. They go to different cities and race on different “courses”
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
chresti:

People have been destroying machines for a long time
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
tim from champaign (now washington):

I always wondered how frequently drones are taken out by projectiles.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Tome:

Heck with AI this is the chit right here baby , waste anything in its way !<>! > bit.ly...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hawks and other raptors are being trained to take out drones.
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chresti:

ewwww humanoid show!
  6:34pm
John in Texas:

Is it appropriate to ask if Alexa or Google is listening when we walk into someones home? Or os there some ‘code words’ we can say to see if they are listening?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
ultradamno:

Frankenstein was alright, just don't meet him near a lake.
  6:34pm
Jack:

BattleBots is amazing! I love that show!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
chresti:

wow @ KFHP
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
ultradamno:

Vice New Tonight had recurring segment in which an art critic attacked AI paintings (which always seemed an insincere exercise since he knew they were by AIs and was predisposed to dismiss the work)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Fuzzy:

Westworld is a thought-provoking HBO romp.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
chresti:

John, just start insulting it
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
ultradamno:

@Jack, I've posted on this Battlebots story before, but in case you missed it futurism.com...
  6:37pm
Meesalikeu:

The A.I. lady who yelled out at the Flesh Fair did her own Turing Test — Mechas don’t plead for their lives.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Eagle vs. drone video (about 2:00 mark) - www.petapixel.com...
  6:38pm
Marley Dogg:

https://youtu.be/2IPAOxrH7Ro
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
chresti:

Probably if you say google, ect., it activates@John
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
ultradamno:

Are we sure that wasn't part of the Austrian crowd's kink?
  6:40pm
John from Florham park:

@Chresti are you talking to me
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Franco Twinkie:

In the 1980's, Survival Research Laboratories would stage guerilla machine warfare events in San Francisco, that were attended by hundreds of people. These shows were dirty, dangerous and a lot of fun! Humans are hard wired to enjoy watching shit get fucked up.
  6:40pm
JakeGould:

Poor Samantha. www.zdnet.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
ultradamno:

If we learned anything for Ex Machina, sexbots are just waiting for an opening to stab you.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Webhamster Henry:

Samantha, the abused sex robot: www.nairaland.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Folsom:

a robotic baby seal walks into a club....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
ultradamno:

SRL you tube channel (incredible stuff) www.youtube.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Webhamster Henry:

The movie HER (yeah, ScarJo playing an AI named Samamntha here) was very sympathetic, until she realized she'd rather be with other AIs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
melinda:

Therapy animals are still fellow mammals though.
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Carmichael:

Therapy robots.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
melinda:

Yeah, robot attackers are the real neo-Luddites
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chresti:

The first time we rented a car that had a navigation robot, we weren't very nice to it
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry:

SRL did a show at the Queens museum. They used to come up with new ghastly fighting robots every year.
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dale:

folsom - HA! good one...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Robotic baby seal therapy doll ... Simpsons did it! simpsons.fandom.com...
  6:43pm
Meesalikeu:

Yes the sex doll was crudely attacked by men in Oct 2017 at an electronics fair in Austria.
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chresti:

John in Texas, John in Florham Park
  6:44pm
JakeGould:

So human! youtu.be...
  6:45pm
JakeGould:

Better a robot than a real sex worker being attacked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
ultradamno:

The AMC show Humans is all about fraught Human/Robo relations.
Avatar 6:46pm
Ignatatus666:

Fleets of drones have been developed way beyond what we are told. There are drones that once in flight they no longer need human direction. They interact with each other.
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chresti:

haha Folsom
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Derrik:

You guys just set off everyone's Alexa.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
Webhamster Henry:

Siri often decides to mishear me and plays crappy pop songs instead of the Sundanese degung music I asked for.
  6:46pm
st Joe:

I have watched some documentaries recently where the narrator sounds like ai. I don't know if it's true or not that they're trying to eliminate voice actors.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
ultradamno:

I've never used Siri or Alexa, I know there are different voice options, are any them more synthetic/robotlike?
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Fredericks:

Ken, you are just defending your human space on Earth that these robots are attempting to push you out of and fill.
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Ignatatus666:

I never use either Alexa nor siri . When Siri pops up on my cell phone I speak very bad to it.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Webhamster Henry:

Siri on the Mac Desktop can be set to the really old Mac voices which are plenty robotic!
Avatar 6:48pm
Derrik:

Alexa often decides not to listen to me. It's like having a teenager in the house. Must be a feature.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Fuzzy:

I hope Owl Sun and Ichibunny aren't listening now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
katsavage:

I used to get very mad at Clippy.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
chresti:

Raptors are smart
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

There's a Bradbury story where a guy is busted for killing a robot facsimile of wifey - because the principle...
  6:49pm
greatb:

Marty, Alexa, Siri, they're all garbage! And I don't have to worry about the inhumane-ness of calling them that- cause they're machines!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
melinda:

I found once that telling an automated phone service that I wanted to speak to a representative worked, even though it hadn't been offered as an option.
Avatar 6:50pm
Fredericks:

Didn't a woman lose a piece of her nose to a drone?
  6:50pm
JakeGould:

@Ignatatus666: “Fleets of drones have been developed way beyond what we are told. There are drones that once in flight they no longer need human direction. They interact with each other.” What’s the proof of this?
  6:50pm
John from Florham park:

I never use Siri
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
melinda:

I don't use Siri either.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

FMUvians : I forgot to get a career. I do the minimum admissible amount automatically per month.
You can do that too. Everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Fuzzy:

In (insert country here) Siri uses YOU.
  6:53pm
John in Texas:

Maybe we can create something like a dog whistle that we cant hear but jams Alexa/Google/Siri.. sub sonic jammer....
  6:53pm
st Joe:

Bixby anyone ? my Android is constantly trying to get me to open Bixby everytime I slide the wrong way there's Bixby. screw you Bixby!
  6:54pm
JakeGould:

“The people mounted Samantha's breasts, her legs, and arms. Two fingers were broken. She was heavily soiled. People can be bad. Because they did not understand the technology and did not have to pay for it, they treated the doll like barbarians.”
Avatar 6:54pm
Carmichael:

People will attack robots until a robot kills someone.
  6:55pm
greatb:

Why shouldn't robots stay robotic, as the computer on Star Trek Next Generation etc
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Webhamster Henry:

And then there's FURBY.
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Ignatatus666:

@Jake
Possibly on the Tube. I watched a documentary on it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
ultradamno:

Battlebots weight limit is like 250 lbs
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Ignatatus666:

XMachina was excellent
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Fuzzy:

Westworld again.
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Carmichael:

It all started with Tickle Me Elmo ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
melinda:

I didn't finish watching Her, it was dull and hard to get into. Also hard to believe the robot was a robot when you know it's Scarlet Johanson.
  6:57pm
JakeGould:

The guy who created the M5 computer to replace humans in Star Trek meets the crew of the Enterprise. youtu.be...

@Ignatatus666: Sounds interesting!
  6:57pm
Jack:

There's a movie on the spanish language channel starring Will Smith called "Yo Robot"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark and SM Ken!
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chresti:

Haha Carmichael!
  6:57pm
Purble:

Ex machinas dance scene was like
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry:

Season 4 of Agents Of Shield is full of robots and simulated life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Cheers... : m.imdb.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Franco Twinkie:

Ken was great! He obviously loves what is happening to the poor robots!
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tak:

if i could fave a comment Jack
  7:00pm
Niche4123:

These delights have ends
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Ken From Hyde Park:

What's going on in Area 51 with military robots? They're probably working on massive robot-on-human violence.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
melinda:

@Franco I agree
  7:00pm
greatb:

Just pulled up a great clip of Data talking to the Computer on TNG- and having a tough time getting through the prompts
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Franco Twinkie:

Ken, You know payback is right around the corner.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Good discussion tonight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
Mark Hurst:

p.s. this thread, about Boston Dynamics - from a tech conference today: twitter.com...
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