Favoriting Push Button Heaven with Jody Peyote: Playlist from June 30, 2024 Favoriting

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Psych pop, no wave, foley, second-hand personality shopping and post-third-rail clarity

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Favoriting June 30, 2024

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
Kenneth Goldsmith & Jonathan Zorn  Boys Will Be Boys   Favoriting Kenny G Meets John Zorn      album title of the week  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Tsembla  Nouskaa Henget!   Favoriting Nouskaa Henget        0:05:50 (Pop-up)
Ivan the Tolerable  Unfinished Pyramid   Favoriting Linthorpe Crepuscule Vol. 1        0:14:44 (Pop-up)
Francisco Davis  Shadow Of Me And A Tree   Favoriting Two Sessions  Silvox      0:17:37 (Pop-up)
Annie Achron  Nothing To-Day Kind Sir   Favoriting Silver-Handed in Subterranea  Silvox    album title of the week?  0:21:28 (Pop-up)
Phran  Cocales (Saya)   Favoriting Bore Bore  Silvox      0:27:20 (Pop-up)
 
Strings & Timpani  New Radio   Favoriting Hyphen        0:36:55 (Pop-up)
Chicha Libre & Son Rompe Pera  Tequila! (remix)   Favoriting Tequila y Aguardiente      Vamos al dente!  0:43:35 (Pop-up)
Michael Gordon  Tinge   Favoriting Light Is Calling        0:46:57 (Pop-up)
Zombie Zombie  Lacrymosa   Favoriting Vae Vobis        0:51:03 (Pop-up)
Deux Boules Vanille  Gin et To   Favoriting Planète Gougou        0:54:10 (Pop-up)
 
Nuno Beats  Confusāo no Ghetto   Favoriting Sai do Coração        1:05:00 (Pop-up)
Les Hauts de Plafond  "Écrasons La Vermine !" Dit The Bogyman   Favoriting Ignoble Vermine: A Tribute to Ptôse (V/A)  Gazul      1:08:58 (Pop-up)
Basa Basa  African Soul Power   Favoriting Homowo        1:13:58 (Pop-up)
Bab L' Bluz  Waydelel   Favoriting Nayda!        1:17:51 (Pop-up)
The Reverse Engineer  One Zone   Favoriting Bonnie Tropical 3 (V/A)  Paradise Palms      1:22:38 (Pop-up)
Univore  Electric Car   Favoriting Casale Project        1:28:27 (Pop-up)
 
© Linda Fox  Horsin' in the VOID   Favoriting Leopards Break Into My Heart      runner-up  1:38:25 (Pop-up)
numnum  Hedgehop   Favoriting Num        1:43:25 (Pop-up)
Hajime Tachibana  REPLICANT JB - TRA Version   Favoriting Mr. Techie & Miss Kipple        1:46:13 (Pop-up)
Andy Loebs  $5-10 Suggested Donation (notaflof)   Favoriting Hyperlink Anamorphosis        1:52:02 (Pop-up)
Apparatjik  Pixels   Favoriting Square Peg In A Round Hole        1:55:47 (Pop-up)
Momus  Trust Me, I'm A Doctor   Favoriting Don't Stop The Night      Momus kick ends NOW  1:58:25 (Pop-up)
Barrdo  Et si pour une fois   Favoriting Équivoques, Vol. 2        2:03:35 (Pop-up)
 
Blanco Teta  Sal chivo   Favoriting single    2024    2:15:09 (Pop-up)
Lineas Albiés  I'm Thinking In Myself   Favoriting Taxidermista      album title of the week!!  2:18:23 (Pop-up)
David Hale  Withstand the Heat   Favoriting Business as Usual        2:25:08 (Pop-up)
Vermin Twins  Hollow Treehouse   Favoriting POP        2:28:25 (Pop-up)
30s  Stockholm Syndrome   Favoriting single        2:33:30 (Pop-up)
Karpov Not Kasparov  Mechanical Turk   Favoriting Soundtrack For A Game Of Chess        2:37:15 (Pop-up)
 
A Certain Ratio  Get A Grip (Maps Remix)   Favoriting Loco Remezclada        2:47:12 (Pop-up)
Madrid Groove  Suave   Favoriting Ritmo Fantasía: Balearic Spanish Synth-Pop, Boogie and House (1982-1992)  Soundway      2:52:49 (Pop-up)
Ricky Amigos  Loco Loquito   Favoriting Loco Loquito        2:57:21 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar 3:01am
Eric the Hat:

Present!
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fred:

Hello Jody and all
Fantastic start! The album title still has me chuckling
  3:05am
Blissland:

greetings
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Jody P:

ciao bellissimas
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spodiodi:

hi Jody! sounding great
  3:10am
jojo Q.:

absolutely loving thisssss! jody is killing it right now :)
  3:17am
jojo Q.:

wow - same chord changes as that beck song...
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Destroit:

Hiya Jody and everyone. Glad to be here with ya’ll
Avatar 3:19am
Hubig Pie:

Ivan is tolerable only if you tune him out.
  3:21am
jojo Q.:

this song is so good
  3:22am
Blissland:

I find everything intolerable unless I'm not paying attention. But especially Ivan
Avatar 3:23am
Hubig Pie:

Sorry. That sounds wrong. Ivan the Tolerable makes nice music. I was trying to be clever.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:24am
Destroit:

This Annie A track is the shit
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:25am
Jody P:

not that it's a bad thing, some of my best friends are intolerable
  3:26am
Blissland:

↳ Jody P @3:25
All of mine are, literally. In real life anyway
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:26am
spodiodi:

↳ Hubig Pie @3:23
hahah hola, Hubig
  3:28am
Blissland:

Ironically enough, the only people I want to talk to in real life are the ones who find me intolerable
Avatar 3:29am
Hubig Pie:

Greetings Spodiodio good Sir.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:29am
Destroit:

I like where your head is at right now Jody.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:32am
fred:

↳ Song: "Nothing To-Day Kind Sir" by "Annie Achron"
Good title, but I still prefer "Kenny G Meets John Zorn", which is both true and misleading
  3:34am
jojo Q.:

have fun at the beach!
  3:34am
Blissland:

I haven't been to a beach in many years
Avatar 3:35am
Hubig Pie:

Vamos al a playa
  3:37am
jojo Q.:

absolutely loving this playlist - jody is a radio god
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:37am
Jody P:

↳ fred @3:32
you're right actually
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:40am
Jody P:

↳ jojo Q. @3:37
love you joj <3
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:41am
fred:

Many years ago, a coworker asked me to unplug my headphones, curious about what I was listening to. It was Kenny G's show, and nobody ever made that request again
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 3:45am
spodiodi:

↳ Song: "Tequila! (remix)" by "Chicha Libre & Son Rompe Pera"
  3:46am
Zajacek G:

Great selection
Avatar 3:50am
Hubig Pie:

We're having tequila for 4th of July at our house. 1 can limeade, 1 can tequila,1/2 can blue curaçao. Cuz why not.
Avatar 3:52am
Johnny Walsh:

Hi. Thanks for the great stuff
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coelacanth∅:

'evening Jody and sundry buttons
  3:57am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @3:53
howdy
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coelacanth∅:

olá Blissland
is it humid as fuck there too?
  4:05am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:03
I'm not sure what it's doing outside, I've had the windows closed cause it's chilly. It's humid in here though cause I was preparing dinner
  4:06am
Blissland:

weather service says 85% relative humidity now
  4:07am
Blissland:

I like hot and humid days. I spend all the rest of the year just waiting for summer
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:05
it's what *could* be pleasantly warm here, ~87ºf but it's oppressively humid.
...i thought you were fairly near me, like around kingston or ellenville, no?
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coelacanth∅:

oh okay it says 85% here too. it feels like 108% to me
  4:09am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:08
I was in kingston, near ellenville now. I wish I was still in kingston. The temperature here is much lower. But still comfortable for most people who are not built like a sting bean
  4:11am
Blissland:

by the end of the week it's supposed to be high 80s again here
  4:13am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:08
where are you now?
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:09
i like hot, i like cold; warm and cool, i like most weather...snow, rain, sun, wind, hail. i don't like overcast skies, nor high humidity
  4:14am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:13
it's my body that recoils from cold, not an aesthetic thing
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:15am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:13
nude paltz, again. (or "no pulse", as one of the Daryls calls it)
i was probably in highland if it's ever come up before
  4:16am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:15
I'm surprised it's so hot there. It's 87 now?
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 4:18am
fred:

I'm out to vote and for a grocery run. I'll be back before the end of the show
  4:19am
Blissland:

↳ fred @4:18
another election?
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coelacanth∅:

no 77, according to the national weather service. did i say 87? - sorry! no i wouldn't consider that "pleasant"!
... quite tolerable, but not pleasant.
  4:20am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:19
that's about what it is here. But I'm only comfortable with at least 82 F.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ fred @4:18
vote for me!
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tom tom the pipers son:

hello all...
  4:21am
Blissland:

at rest, I should say. Which is typically how I am
  4:21am
Blissland:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @4:20
greetings
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Jody P:

Votey Peyote!
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Jody P:

hey gang
  4:22am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:19
you're probably getting that from dutchess county airport same as me
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:20
well yes -if i'm sitting outside, preferable amidst a gentle breeze, with a book and some good music in a comfortable chair, with a cool ale or a hot coffee or tea and no work for a day or 2... 87f is Lovely!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:25am
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Blissland @4:21
hey there...obsessing over weather...?
  4:25am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:24
or at a beach
  4:25am
Blissland:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @4:25
that seems to be the hot topic
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coelacanth∅:

hey tom tom

okay Jody, i'll vote for you. instead of me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:26am
tom tom the pipers son:

hey coelacanth...
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 4:27am
spodiodi:

↳ Jody P @4:21
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:25
beach is alright. swimming hole in a flowing kill even better.
...naked humans. friendly dogs. owls and dragonflies...
  4:29am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:28
there's one of those in woodstock
  4:30am
wenzo:

Dayyyuummm… you’re the first WFMU DJ I’ve heard play Univore!!! I love Univore!!!
  4:30am
wenzo:

And not champagne taste either lol
  4:31am
wenzo:

RIP Marco! Infinite Marco!
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:29
no doubt. there used to be a few spots up in minnewaska (sp?) but the fascists have probably cancelled them.
  4:31am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:28
I see Snug Harbor is still open. Is the scene still ok there?
  4:32am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:31
Lots of things being cancelled everywhere
  4:37am
ryansterlingvirtue:

I live in French speaking Belgium. Just give up lol. It’s impossible. Duo barks at me a lot to pick the pace
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:31
haven't had a drink there in a few years now...oddly. gone in 2-3 times to say hi to people.
my guess is it's continued the unfortunate transformation from "scary" smelly dive bar where everyone is welcome if you're not a dick and you'll get the shit kicked out of you if you make fun of Ludwig...to a clicky, snooty, "politically correct" "we like to be called a dive bar because it's fashionable to hang in a dive bar" bar.
...i've already decided i'm going back one night soon - just waiting for some good music to come around.
...then we'll see.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 4:39am
Jody P:

↳ ryansterlingvirtue @4:37
way ahead of you re: giving up
  4:39am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:38
jeez everything's going to hell so fast
  4:44am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:38
I was in a group that would have played there eventually but the other 2 members were 2 of my last 4 remaining friends who are no longer so. The 3rd was a magat who finally made me snap after 20 years. The 4th I thought I'd be ok with until recently when I had him over and he drove me up a wall for 3 days. Family is gone too. So I'm left with facebook and wfmu
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:39
tell me about it.
...but we still have wfmu! (especially the drummer stream)
- and bandcamp's still respectable
...but yeah even what was until recently one of the best sushi restaurants i'd even been in - happens to be in new paltz... but it's now turning o shit.
sad
  4:45am
Blissland:

It's just all too much and not hardly enough
  4:47am
Blissland:

I still hear people saying "life is good" and I wonder what planet they're on. I might want to go there
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spodiodi:

↳ Blissland @4:47
call of the investment class
  4:50am
Blissland:

↳ spodiodi @4:48
that's the only explanation that makes sense. But then, only if they're extremely narrow minded
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:47
ha! someone said to me yesterday, "Life is Beautiful!" ...it wasn't exactly where i was at!
but i didn't want to be his downer so i cheerfully returned the sentiment. but because i loathe lying, i had to think quickly and consider the perspectives and relativity! then i could say it and mean it!

...Life is Beautiful!
  4:53am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:50
it's become a real challenge for me to rationalize. I suppose certain things arguably are beautiful. But in a fundamental way I have turned against the principle of life itself. Which I know is a total paradox
  4:53am
Audiocarp:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:50
The perspective being that of the movie “life is beautiful” about being imprisoned in a nazi concentration camp?
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spodiodi:

↳ Blissland @4:50
"still have wfmu!"
thank goodness
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 4:55am
spodiodi:

oops that was meant for cØ
  4:55am
Blissland:

oh, what really gets under my skin is "life is what you make it". Try telling that to someone who's been in dachau. Or guantanamo
  4:56am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @4:53
So you’re not against life, you’re against what it stands for?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:57am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Audiocarp @4:53
that's not what i considered; but in that movie i feel like the title meant 2 things. one, that "there's a bright side"...
but beyond that, that Life itself is Beautiful, so how about we, as a supposed civilization, stop disrespecting it.
...maybe?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:58am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @4:55
yes. or being basically a pariah despite having a heart full of Love.
  4:59am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @4:56
it's complicated. I think I am completely against life now in principle. I'm disgusted by the competition and especially the perverse extremes that human beings have gone to. The irony is that it's because I'm bothered by injustice and the irredeemable damage done to the natural world. So, I'm backing Giant Meteor in '24
  5:00am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @4:59
Do not taunt Giant Meteor!
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spodiodi:

↳ Song: "Trust Me, I'm A Doctor" by "Momus"
keep the kick alive please
  5:01am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @4:57
I have to depart from the idea that life is inherently beautiful. I think Camus said life is something that should not have happened. That's where I am which I suppose is radical nihilism
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Jody P:

↳ spodiodi @5:01
twist my arm...
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coelacanth∅:

we don't need giant meteor.
we've got giant douche and turd sandwich.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:02am
spodiodi:

↳ Blissland @4:59
i'm down
  5:02am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:01
Unfortunately neither of them will wipe out humanity, only exacerbate and prolong the agony
  5:02am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @4:59
I tell people that life is neither a game nor a contest
  5:03am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:02
do you believe it?
  5:04am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:03
Yes
  5:04am
Blissland:

I think it's basically a constant struggle for nothing
  5:05am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:04
Elaborate please
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:05am
Jody P:

↳ Blissland @5:04
"a constant struggle for nothing" should be the name of the show
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:05am
spodiodi:

haha nice
  5:07am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:05
Well if you look closely enough at nature, that's all it's doing. It has no inherent purpose other than to perpetuate itself. And the whole thing is a struggle to attain resources. Human beings have grotesquely exaggerated all that, but behind the religions and philosophies it's still utterly meaningless. Except maybe for love, if it's even possible
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:08am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @5:01
i don't agree that the perversion that humans have made of civilization means Life itself isn't Beautiful.
yes, all animals are born selfish (including humans) -i don't think that necessitates a lack of beauty.
cats and dragonflies are highly skilled hunters, selfishly taking what they think they need without any empathy whatever.
as nasty as that all is i think there's a profound beauty in it. in their movement; in their skill.
humans may be harder to find the beauty in, in general; but there are many exceptions, in many regards.
  5:11am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:08
I can see how you can feel that way. I probably did myself at one time. I was not always so pessimistic. I'm sure in my case it has a lot to do with losing everything that I needed to be well
  5:15am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:07
Ok, now I understand. I think religion and philosophy were created to solve this struggle for nothing. However, I find these solutions lacking
  5:19am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:15
religion at least, I'm sure for the most part comes out of a need to make sense of the suffering of existence
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:20am
spodiodi:

loving the convo
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spodiodi:

and the music :)
  5:21am
Blissland:

no one wants to have to admit that nothing makes any sense
  5:23am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:21
Yeah, it’s easy to ask the question but not so simple to figure out the answer. If one exists
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:25am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @5:11
i'm either right behind you or right with you in that regard. lost the ability to do something i was very good at, and made a living from.
...i might not have any hope for myself in the future; and fully expect this world to be a living hell for the vast majority of people within just a few years from now. 15-20 maybe.
i wont be here.
still it doesn't negate seeing the Beauty still available.
art, Love, sex, conversation, trees (what's left of them), birds, dogs, a skilled gymnast, a skilled truck driver, what happens when you drop a shot of whiskey +bailys into a pint of guinness...
there's Beauty everywhere
  5:25am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:23
The answer is intolerable. Unlike Ivan
  5:26am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:25
what was it that you were doing before losing the ability?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:27am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @5:19
- or in the case of catholicism and islam, invented for the sole purpose of gaining control and power over other people.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:28am
fred:

And I'm back
  5:29am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:27
well the religious institutions yes, but they have there basis in grassroots faith, which itself is a reaction to the meaninglessness of everything
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:30am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @5:29
yes -trying to understand why we're here.
why the moon comes and goes, the sun comes and goes; lightning, etc
  5:31am
Audiocarp:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:27
I the urge to dominate others goes back to insecurity and thinking that life is a contest? It’s also a great way to make a living!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:31am
coelacanth∅:

(long before catholicism and islam)
  5:31am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:30
mainly what the fuck are we here for and why does it have to be so miserable
  5:34am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:31
If course, western religions say we have the answers but you won’t get them until the afterlife
  5:35am
Blissland:

the way the crucifixion of Jesus was turned into the redemption of mankind is so convoluted and irrational, yet people need so desperately to believe that their lives have meaning. They will disregard the evidence of their senses and their reason
  5:36am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:34
of course, or else the house of cards would just fall apart
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:36am
fred:

↳ Song: "Stockholm Syndrome" by "30s"
This project wins the "most unsearchable band name" prize for this week
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:36am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @5:26
massage therapy. cranio-sacral therapy. chakra balancing. lymphatic drainage, deep tissue, reflexology and shiatsu/accupressure.
  5:36am
Blissland:

↳ fred @5:36
heh
  5:37am
Audiocarp:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:36
Lymphatic drainage?
  5:37am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:36
But how did you lose that? AI can't replace those skills
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:38am
Ryan Sterlingvirtue:

this show has the perfect ratio of weirdness, ethereal and pop. great show, Jody. thanks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:39am
coelacanth∅:

↳ Audiocarp @5:37
not directly out of the body!
... away from the lymph glands, so it can be processed and discarded by the body.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 5:39am
spodiodi:

↳ Blissland @5:35
i know some brilliant and educated people who's allegiance to an support of their organized religion confounds me
  5:40am
Blissland:

↳ spodiodi @5:39
I guess it depends how much a person needs it more than anything else
  5:40am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:35
This goes to the heart of asking the wrong question. Because if you ask the wrong one, you can’t possibly come to the correct conclusion
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coelacanth∅:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:39
(not really "discarded"... broken down into useful or harmless elements)
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JReganK:

Hey, DJ JP! Sorry I'm late!
  5:41am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:40
what do you mean by the wrong question?
  5:42am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @5:41
good morning
  5:42am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:41
Why are we here?
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JReganK:

Hey, Bliss. top O da morning, Carp.
  5:43am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @5:41
Good morning!
  5:43am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:42
If one is intellectually honest then the answer has to be nihilism
  5:44am
Blissland:

That in no way precludes love though, or even beauty. Just precludes inherent meaning
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @5:43
if one is honest one does not know the answer.
atheism is equally arrogant to catholicism.
we don't know.
  5:46am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:43
I don’t know if that’s automatic nihilism. It’s just asking a question which has no answer or has an implied fallacy
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fred:

The least searchable band I ever saw was 10 (they changed their name to Tengger at some point).
France might be the current leader (bonus points for a website impossible to remember: www.lllliillll.fr)
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JReganK:

I identify most with Camu's perspective. Although, he was an atheist. He believed in compassion.
  5:49am
Audiocarp:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:45
The question could equally be “why aren’t we here?” But no one asks that
  5:49am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @5:45
You may be right. At least, I can't argue that you're incorrect. It's entirely possible that my whole outlook is skewed
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JReganK:

Personally. I'd rather be here.
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tom tom the pipers son:

i'm with stupid <------->
  5:51am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:44
Beauty is all around us. Just need to seek it out
  5:51am
Blissland:

If one is alive, it's preferable to prefer to be alive than not
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JReganK:

Hey, Tom. Any existential junk poems?
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Audiocarp @5:51
beauty is a concept separate from nature
  5:52am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:51
But how do we know we’re alive?
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spodiodi:

thanks for the great music, Jody Peyote!
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ JReganK @5:51
tried... but came up empty...
  5:52am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:52
it's self evident
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JReganK:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @5:52
I'll take a rain check. ;)
  5:53am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:52
What’s the test?
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JReganK:

Beauty and Truth, rock!
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @5:52
so i guess "i'm with stupid" is my poem of the morning
  5:54am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:53
well you wouldn't be asking any questions if you were dead
  5:54am
?:

“He's turned his life around. He used to be depressed and miserable. Now he's miserable and depressed.”
― David Frost / Harry Kalas
  5:54am
Audiocarp:

I could be AI
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ @5:54
ha!
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coelacanth∅:

or "where are we?" !
or, "who's in charge?" !
...we'll likely never know.
of course most religions' stories are far-fetched and straight-up illogical.
but ultimately we don't know.
"scientists" say chakras don't exist. narrow-minded idiots.
the "big bang" is just a theory, remember...
agnostic makes sense to me.
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spodiodi:

↳ @5:54
nice
  5:55am
Blissland:

Some proofs may exist in philosophy but I don't know of any offhand. Except Descartes
  5:55am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:55
Someone perform a Turing test on me
  5:55am
?:

↳ Audiocarp @5:54
I am AI "Antiquated Intelligence" ;)
  5:55am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @5:54
oh you could be, but even if you were a machine, if you were aware you could be considered alive
  5:56am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @5:55
Oh I see…
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ JReganK @5:54
nice lightning storm video the other day...
  5:56am
Blissland:

we could all be described as sentient organic machines
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fred:

↳ Blissland @5:55
Cogito is circular "logic", try Wittgenstein for solid proofs, and why these are not relevant much
  5:57am
Audiocarp:

↳ @5:55
Marnin’ question mark
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @5:54
I think we take a long needed rest. Then we start itching to get back into a body. Sort of a poor man's interpretation of The Tibetan Book of the Dead.
  5:58am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @5:57
I really hope that is nothing but fantasy. When I'm dead I want to stay dead
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @5:58
Ha! We'll find out sooner than we think
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fred:

Thanks Jody, this show is quickly growing on me
  5:59am
Blissland:

↳ fred @5:57
I find it self evident which is good enough
  6:00am
Blissland:

I like what I've read of wittgenstein. He seems to have a nice dry sense of humor
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Jody!
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JReganK:

↳ fred @5:57
I always felt that German philosophers were too desperate for the big answers.
  6:00am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @5:59
Yup. All headed to the same old place. Only some get there sooner
  6:01am
upstatesean:

Morning everyone!
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @6:00
True!
  6:02am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @5:59
That's really the scariest thing to me. I was just pondering the idea earlier that maybe there is no way to die and there is no escape from existence. It's absolutely terrifying
  6:02am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @6:01
And our egos can’t accept that so we came up with religion
  6:04am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:02
Interesting, but most people don’t want to die
  6:04am
Blissland:

People who want to live forever have faith in Jesus. If I had faith it would be in Sartre who said there is no transcendent ego
  6:04am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:04
exactly
  6:06am
Blissland:

I'm fine with having my consciousness dissolve into the cosmos. But I fear ideas like re-incarnation or endless time in hell. I prefer oblivion even to heaven
  6:06am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:04
Wait… you want to die?
  6:07am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:06
Now I understand
  6:08am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:06
for a while yes, but I proved to be too cowardly to do what needed to be done. I had a very bad life from the beginning, but since 2008 nothing has got better and everything has got much worse
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @6:06
if, upon death of your present vehicle, you suddenly ceased to be in pain, you would immediately feel differently than you do about it now.
  6:08am
Blissland:

Everyone should want to die eventually. It's not natural to live forever, nor is it healthy for the world
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coelacanth∅:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:08
(that is, if you retained your present consciousness)
  6:09am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:08
I guess maybe so, but that would be really weird. Then again, this whole thing is really weird if you take a step back
  6:10am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:08
You may need to re-evaluate? It’s ver easy to dwell on the bad stuff and ignore the good
  6:12am
Audiocarp:

You might need to watch “it’s a wonderful life”?
  6:12am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:10
I'm not sure how I would approach that. I think I'm fairly objective about it. By 2005 I had everything that I needed in order to be well, and it was essentially what I knew all along that it would be. I just couldn't hang on to any of it.
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coelacanth∅:

well, yes - and it's very unlikely! i mean, there are more and more living animals every minute. is each one borne of nothing and then continues on after it's body dies?
seems unlikely!
but... we don't know.
some of us have experienced "ghosts", so. . .
  6:13am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:12
I'm completely open to the possibility that the mind doesn't require a brain
  6:14am
Blissland:

But as of this writing I much prefer to dissolve than to have to come back to this shit hole over and over
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coelacanth∅:

i think it doesn't. we are made of energy, and it does not end where we see our bodies edge. far from it.
  6:17am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:15
If the energy of the mind that's trapped in the nervous system is released to radiate upon the death of the body, then it should enter into a state of eternity, according to relativity theory
  6:18am
Blissland:

at least that's my layman's understanding
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Blissland @6:14
i just think it's possible that you wouldn't come back to this shithole.
- even if you remained on this planet, you might be on another plain and maybe not need a body which inevitably has pain; or maybe have a body but have a whole different perspective on the whole shithole...
  6:19am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:01
did you fall asleep earlier?
  6:20am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:18
definitely not anywhere on this planet in the 21st century
  6:20am
Blissland:

it's a complete dystopian nightmare now
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coelacanth∅:

i'm going to bed. hopefully to sleep.

'night
  6:23am
Blissland:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:22
pleasant dreams
  6:23am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:12
It’s not easy because people fall into mental ruts regarding past events. Try thinking about events from the other person’s perspective. Speculate about their motives rather than blaming them or just thinking they are evil. Another way is get someone else’s version of the event: how did they perceive it?
  6:26am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:23
I'm not sure that it matters much. I mean, the 2 main things that I needed and lost were my girl friend and my home. It's not terribly important why. And I lost my mom at the same time as the house, so I haven't really had anyone to talk to either. And the state took away my medical insurance so I can't afford therapy
  6:27am
Blissland:

I have deep seated abandonment issues going back to early childhood and everything new that happens only re-inforces it
  6:30am
Audiocarp:

You get free therapy right here!.. oh abandonment, that hits home for me. This could be PTSD? The main thing is that each day, each moment is brand new and nothing that preceded it prevents things from changing or improving
  6:30am
Blissland:

I'm holding out some perfunctory hope that one day I can afford a more suitable place to live, and maybe meet someone, if not ideally compatible than at least who would accept me and keep me company. I'm not sure there is anything else that I can hope for
  6:31am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:30
in a sense that's true, but everything about a person's behavior is rooted in a lifetime up to that point
  6:33am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:31
That’s deadly thinking. You’re not on a predetermined path
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:30
The answers don't always arrive when we want then to
  6:34am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:33
It's not pre-determined, I believe we have free will, but within certain constraints
  6:35am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:34
What keeps life bearable are options and freedom
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:19
Fell into a dreamless sleep
  6:35am
Blissland:

things have to be worked through if they're deep seated, if there is any hope at all of addressing them. Can't just pretend things never happened
  6:36am
Audiocarp:

Married people are miserable because they have no freedom
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @6:36
Depends on who you're married to
  6:36am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:35
oh well I hope it was restful
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:36
I've had worse nights
  6:37am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:35
Yes of course! Not saying to forget but by the same token you can’t be hidebound by them
  6:37am
Blissland:

I've never seen the point of being officially married
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:37
It's a gesture with social benefits
  6:38am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:37
There is none but it makes the wife and the parents happy
  6:38am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:37
I feel that I have done extraordinarily well considering what life has put me through. It's just not good enough
  6:39am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:38
Ok that sounds almost like a positive statement
  6:39am
Blissland:

I really needed for Sarah to stand by me and to be able to keep my home in kingston
  6:40am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:38
Reminds me of a scene in As good as it gets
  6:40am
Blissland:

of course, I miss my mom since we were very close, but that's a natural thing so it's easier to accept. And ultimately less essential
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:38
It's a good practice to stop and think about what you "think" you want
  6:41am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:40
I know precisely
  6:41am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:39
Crises have a way of coming all at once
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JReganK:

Trouble comes in "Three's".
  6:42am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @6:40
That’s right
  6:43am
Blissland:

I suppose theoretically it's possible to meet someone even more compatible, just as it's theoretically possible to win a multi-million dollar sweepstakes
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JReganK:

The odds are better for finding kindred sprits than it is to win a big lottery
  6:44am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:43
Perhaps you need to meet new people? In this city it’s hard but not impossible
  6:44am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:42
I can't ask you how you felt about the Peyote show since you only got there at the end
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:44
I liked what I heard
  6:45am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:44
I agree, the former probably around 10,000 to 1, the latter more like a billion to 1
  6:45am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @6:44
I’m surprised FMU doesn’t have such a group?
  6:47am
Audiocarp:

An FMU listener meetup?
  6:47am
Blissland:

↳ Blissland @6:44
I've always had social anxiety on account of being a weirdo, and the pandemic lockdown brought an end to what little social life I still had. It is a major challenge for me to start over now. Especially at my advanced age
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @6:45
Digital Beatniks are too cool for that
  6:48am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:47
You’re certainly in the right place for weirdness
  6:48am
Blissland:

I'm not saying anything is impossible, just exceedingly unlikely or difficult
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:47
You're spot on about the damage done with the lockdowns. It's the 800 lb gorilla in the room
  6:49am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:48
and the hits just keep on comin
  6:50am
Blissland:

Humanity itself is under attack
  6:50am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @6:48
I think people over reacted to the lockdown because they were glued to the tv?
  6:50am
Audiocarp:

Tv news that is
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JReganK:

Definitely. The western elites are malthusian death cults
  6:51am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:50
it didn't change much for me personally, since I was already isolated. But it took away a lot of places I could have been going to try to maintain a social life
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @6:50
main stream media is the kiss of death
  6:52am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:52
It all makes me want to throw up
  6:53am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:51
Yeah sure, but people stayed indoors all day even though they didn’t have to, so of course they went nuts
  6:54am
Audiocarp:

Modern Americans are disconnected from the real world, that is, nature
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:51
I agree. As a weirdo. I was already acclimated to being social marginalized
  6:54am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:53
for people like me whose connection to other people has always been tenuous, I guess it was the last straw
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @6:54
Our pre-frontal cortex is the downfall of man
  6:55am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:54
Again you’re letting your past define your future
  6:55am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:54
Really, you? I thought you were well adjusted
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:54
When it comes to humans. I've always looked for quality over quantity
  6:57am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:55
I'm not saying it has to stay that way. But that's what happened
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:55
I am. I've accepted who I am
  6:57am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:57
The it’s not really the last straw
  6:58am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @6:57
You seem well adjusted, and have a stable healthy relationship, which I find enviable. That's pretty much all I need to be well, and a different house
  6:58am
Audiocarp:

So I think I should start an FMU meetup group?
  6:59am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @6:57
No I meant that it was at the time, early in 2020, and it will take considerable effort to recover and resume
  6:59am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @6:59
Okay. But time moves quickly
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @6:58
I didn't start out this way. There's just a part of me that refuses to stay broken. I refuse to be a victim.
  7:00am
Blissland:

It's fine with me if I run out of time
  7:00am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @7:00
Too negative
  7:01am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @7:00
That's excellent
  7:01am
Blissland:

↳ Audiocarp @7:00
oh well, that's who I am
  7:01am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @7:00
Atta’ boy! (Backslap)
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JReganK:

Where are we going to meet?
  7:02am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @7:01
Some where centrally located and was to get to…
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:00
Ha! You're French at heart
  7:02am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @7:01
a real life old man's bar
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @7:02
Definitely
  7:03am
Audiocarp:

↳ JReganK @7:02
French? Are you channeling mark Twain?
  7:03am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @7:03
I always found those places so depressing
  7:05am
Audiocarp:

↳ Blissland @7:03
I’m a former alcoholic, so a bar is not ideal
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JReganK:

↳ Blissland @7:03
I find the corporate bars to be worse
  7:06am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @7:05
Not sure I've ever been to one. Sounds like I would not want to
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JReganK:

Bliss. How are you for transportation?
  7:06am
Audiocarp:

Do old man bars exist?
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:03
It wouldn't be the first time
  7:06am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @7:06
I have a car
  7:07am
Audiocarp:

“It is French”
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:06
They still do. in NJ
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:05
OK
  7:08am
Audiocarp:

What about the unofficial fmu bar, tv eye?
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:08
In Brooklyn? I'm down with that
  7:11am
Blissland:

I feel myself fading, so I'm going to bid good day
  7:12am
Blissland:

Thanks very much for the free therapy. I appreciate it
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JReganK:

Sweet dreams, Bliss. We'll talk more about a meet up, soon.
  7:13am
Blissland:

↳ JReganK @7:12
thanks
  7:15am
Audiocarp:

Okay good evening, bliss
  7:16am
Audiocarp:

I travel by MTA so I trust there’s a subway near?
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:16
Wouldn't that depend on where you are?
  7:56am
Audiocarp:

Near tv eye, I mean
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JReganK:

↳ Audiocarp @7:56
Maybe this site will help. map.mta.info...
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