WFMU: Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from July 2, 2024

Listener comments!
	6:38pm Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	7:43pm Arvo Zylo: Howdy!
	9:00pm Imaginos: Ahoy
	9:00pm Mr. X: Quicks are for quids.
	9:01pm Mr Fab: Hail, mutants!
	9:01pm Arvo Zylo: Is there a band called Pizza Carcass? Should be....
	9:01pm ramencity: 'ey up me ducks!
	9:02pm Geoff-U: Gave my leftover pizza a sriracha bath, got the laptop plugged into the stereo, let's do this!
	9:03pm Arvo Zylo: I snuck into movie theaters through the fire exit when I was a kid... not the greatest films, sadly, but it was fun until I was threatened by the ushers in the bathroom. They had broomsticks!
	9:03pm Krys O.: Howdy! It's a concentrated work week for me and my energy levels are crashing. Cheers, all! Have fun radio-ing!
	9:04pm Imaginos: We appreciate you too
	9:04pm Arvo Zylo: Mr. X did a good show last week! Made me think of my insect set back in 2009 or so... and I looked up Tarantula Ghoul, had no idea it was anything other than another band on those Halloween comps... shame she didn't make it to any archives.... I love old horror hosts!
	9:05pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @9:03 Thanks for stopping in!
	9:05pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:04 Thanks Arvo, passing the baton to you!
	9:05pm Arvo Zylo: Meow valtations
	9:06pm Geoff-U: I didn't have to sneak in to R-rated movies, my dad took me to Barbarella when I was like 7 This may have been a "This is our secret/don't tell your mom" situation haha :D
	9:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:04 Glad you checked out Tarantula Ghoul! She's one of my fave things to bring up around Halloween.
	9:07pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Geoff-U @9:06 My parents let me rent and watch horror movies when I was a kid. I was about four years old when I saw Return of The Living Dead, and saw it on VHS again, my grandma ran in front of the TV and said "This is Filth"! I snuck into movies because I didn't have money....
	9:08pm Austin Rich: I didn't go to many movies as a kid, and even as a teen, my parents always said there wasn't the money. So the times I did see movies in theaters were very memorable to me. I saw most of my cinema at home, on a small TV.
	9:08pm Mr Fab: Austin (or anyone else) if you're getting into that summer mood, I'll be hosting an epic special this July 5th, from 9am - 4pm called "Groovy! Pseven Hours of Psychedelic Psummer Psounds." Not on the calendar yet - you heard it here first!
	9:09pm Geoff-U: I mostly went to the $2 second-run theater since paper route dollars were very precious
	9:09pm Arvo Zylo: In the Chicago Area, there was a theater called "Harlem Corners" that had third run films for $1.50. On Sundays my dad and I would go to the flea market and watch a movie. We didn't buy much at the flea market usually, it was just a place to browse ideas, I think.
	9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:08 I'm stoked about this show! And if X-Day doesn't happen - again - I'll absolutely be listening.
	9:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Whistling In The Dark" by "Rudy Vallée" I'm such a sucker for Rudy Vallée these days. I just love this kind of song.
	9:12pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:10 I listen to this sort of thing all the time. Old souls and all that...
	9:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Blåslåten" by "Pärson Sound" Arvo, you know me too well these days! I'm such a sucker for that Harvester / Träd Gräs Och Stenar stuff. Thanks for playing this!
	9:13pm Geoff-U: This Pärson Sound is neat!
	9:14pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:09 what a great memory.....browsing ideas.....
	9:14pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:12 Thanks! A young fellow named Hunter, who had a noise project in Cleveland called "Malware" probably recommended this to me ten years ago, when he was under 18. Did a show with him, but he opened and left after because of the illegality of his presence in a bar.... He was good! Took an angle grinder to an amplified stop sign...
	9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:14 Thanks for droppin' in!
	9:15pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @9:14 Hi Laura, thank you! I hope you are well!!
	9:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:14 "But I know sometimes I must get out in the light / Better leave her behind with the kids, they're alright / The kids are alright."
	9:16pm Arvo Zylo: "Blåslåten " means "Blues Song"
	9:17pm laurapanic: I love a mellow noise terror set
	9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:17 After going to enough fests, where every pair of noise bros in the world offer a confrontational harsh noise wall, I find stuff like this so much more engaging.
	9:19pm Mr. X: ↳ laurapanic @9:17 @laurapanic: Austin and I watched your video and concluded that your band kicks some serious butt.
	9:21pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 I have done radio shows where it's all harsh noise, and had the phone calls where people asked if there is something wrong with the transmitter... been there done that, it's nice to expand.
	9:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:21 Agreed. It's fun stuff, occasionally, and certainly as a nice punctuation, or contrast. But when it's all that, all the time... it becomes a little boring, after a while. I prefer a more balanced line-up, with artists from a number of genres.
	9:24pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 There are "noise bros"? I'm imagining frat boys, now working as stockbrokers or in Silicon Valley, going off to some underground gallery with their power tools and circuit-bent instruments. It's a crazy world we're livin in!
	9:24pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 oh jeez, well thanks!
	9:24pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:23 Freeform radio needs to keep changing for me, unless it's conceptual or something. I like to set a tone for meditation sometimes, so I used to do entire sets of conceptual droning noise stuff. I generally gravitate toward an "industrial drone" if I can.
	9:25pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @9:24 there are definitely noise bros
	9:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:24 You're not far off. Perhaps "bro" is too harsh. But... I think it immediately evokes the kind of guy I'm talking about.
	9:25pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Well then laura, send me your mp3s/wav/FLAC etc, so I can add stuff to the Sheena stream forthwith!
	9:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Iron Foundry (1927)" by "Alexander Mosolov" I love the idea of this album. I wish there had been a "Young Person's Guide To The Avant-Garde" when I was a kid.
	9:27pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:26 The B side to this 78 is on youtube, also very good. It's a great comp!
	9:28pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @9:25 I will! Just mixing down some stuff now.
	9:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 Hell yeah!
	9:29pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 I just sent some tracks to be mixed / messed with by a friend, and I'm looking forward to hearing the results. You get too far in the weeds on your own. It's good to have other ears.
	9:30pm Arvo Zylo: Doug Abram is a member of Black Bear Combo, a marching band who now apparently do that as a career, once did a set of funeral marches for me, when I booked a show on 6/6/2006 with a kiddie pool full of red jello for "blood wrestling" and other tidbits... Great people.
	9:31pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @9:29 we just recorded live in our friend's record store, he set up the sound gear and it was great. Do a take, browse records waiting for next set up, do a take.....
	9:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:30 I did a radio show with my buddy Jesse Ransom that date! He learned an "anti-Christian" song for the show. He was great!
	9:32pm laurapanic: Love me a dirge and funeral march. soothing stuff
	9:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:31 Woah. That's, like, the ideal way to record!
	9:32pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 I saw a bandcamp link in the chat at some point (I don't always comment live, but I do often listen to the archives). Feel free to link me to the bandcamp. I have a little mixcloud thing that I just started recently. www.mixcloud.com...
	9:34pm coelacanth∅))): 'evening Austin Rich and mid-valley mutants
	9:34pm Imaginos: ↳ coelacanth∅))) @9:34 Evening
	9:34pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅))) @9:34 Thanks for joining us, coelacanthø))). I love both your amps and the experimental band named after you.
	9:35pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:32 nothing yet but when we do I'll be sure to bring it up regularly
	9:35pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "From Serbia." Easily my favorite show I have ever seen, 2003, prior to the collective self-consciousness that cell phone cameras brought upon us. Everyone was throwing money at the band like they were strippers!
	9:38pm coelacanth∅))): ↳ Imaginos @9:34 hi Imaginos!
	9:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:35 I have not been to many shows at all since covid, so I have approached them very differently than I did in the years immediately before. I think the thing that weirds me out the most, now, when I do go to a show, is seeing all the people who are not watching the bands.
	9:39pm coelacanth∅))): ↳ Austin Rich @9:34 ha! me too!
	9:40pm Imaginos: Started attending more theater recently thanks to card to culture
	9:40pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:38 I still haven't been to a show since October 2019, The Adicts. Was fun, except for blowhards in the audience. Still have a few of the playing cards they threw into the audience.
	9:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:40 I was going to more theater and classical performances, pre-covid. Easily "Little Shop of Horrors" was the best theater experience I've seen, but I'm sure there are other great ones, too.
	9:42pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @9:38 I hate the "watching live show through my phone" aesthetic. Like, watch the show? they never watch those videos back I know it!!!
	9:42pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:42 Even worse, someone who is friend's with the band has a camera set up somewhere, so it'll be on YouTube later. Just watch the show. Take a discreet pic and enjoy yourself.
	9:43pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 I almost went to see Adam Ant. I live near a symphony center. Thankfully got to see a live orchestra accompaniment to Nosferatu before the pandemic.
	9:43pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 Recently saw La Cage and am planning to see Boeing Boeing
	9:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:43 A lot of people I know went to shows on this Adam Ant tour. It was VERY tempting, but I'm seeing unwound in Oct. I'm patient.
	9:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Battle For Heaven" by "Glenn Danzig" This selection gave me flashbacks, Arvo. We used to listen to this album when we would play D&D back in the day. Outside of that context, I don't think I've heard this album since.
	9:45pm Heather: ↳ laurapanic @9:42 I was at a show ages ago with my friend Renee and someone was taking phone vid. Renee elbowed me and said completely deadpan, "they're going to watch that when they get home tonight." I had to stop watching the show for a sec because she totally cracked me up with that!
	9:46pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:44 I never got into D&D, but this is my first taste of solo home-recorded instrumental music that could fall under "dungeon synth", which is something I like in theory more than in application a lot of the time.
	9:46pm Austin Rich: All the Cell Phones at shows is just preparing us for living in the matrix. I should re-read all those William Gibson books so I'm ready for what's coming.
	9:47pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:46 WINTERMUTE
	9:47pm Arvo Zylo: Hi to everyone that popped in since the last time I said hi to everyone!
	9:48pm Imaginos: It would be fun to have a show with carnival ride music. Like the music from Villa Volte
	9:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:46 He was certainly ahead of the curve. If you ever get curious about D&D, there's plenty of ways to play online, so you don't even have to go to some weird guy's basement, where he makes you listen to Rush and talks about all the girls he's kissed, before you can start playing.
	9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:48 I think Heather was working on a circus / carnival themed show.
	9:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "We Have All Been Haunted" by "Vulcan Ironworks" This selection totally floored me when I first heard it, Arvo. It's new to me, and magnificent! Totally checking out more by them later.
	9:50pm Geoff-U: Ooh this Vulcan Ironworks is up my alley :)
	9:50pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:48 I am very much a fan of Stranger Things, but D&D just isn't in me. My uncle was big into D&D in the 80s. I drew pictures of some of these characters he showed me, when I was about 8.
	9:51pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:49 youtu.be...
	9:51pm Imaginos: ↳ Imaginos @9:51 I wrote the lyrics
	9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:50 It's an acquired taste, for sure. I was more into Cyberpunk and more modern-set games when I was a kid, but I played what I could get.
	9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:51 Very cool! I'll check it out.
	9:52pm Mr. X: D&D ruined some friendships among my peers. The DM kept killing off characters that they were a little too attached to.
	9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "I’m Tired of Everything But You" by "Nick Lucas" This might be one of the greatest songs ever recorded.
	9:54pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:52 There was a CDROM called "Zork" that I liked, but other than that, there was the neighbor who had Nintendo, and we played Cops & Robbers or basketball the rest of the time.
	9:54pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @9:49 I sure was and still should be. I have so many files and pages of script and notes! And ahh.
	9:54pm Austin Rich: Oh! I know Rafael's stuff. He often collaborate's with Hal McGee.
	9:55pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:54 Yep, we used to be in that one facebook group when we were still on facebook...
	9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:55 I don't know the other gent. I'll have to investigate him more.
	9:56pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:53 Thanks! I am also fond of Nick Lucas.
	9:56pm Imaginos: You are in a maze of twisting turning passages all alike
	9:57pm Austin Rich: Damn. We lost connection for a second. Sorry everyone! I'll try to get a pristine version up for the archive.
	9:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:56 Man, I loved Zork. It was so hard!
	9:58pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:57 A nice bit of incidental sound collage!
	9:59pm Austin Rich: Sports fans argue about sports facts and figures. Which players moved to what teams. Who retired. Music fans argue about music facts and figures. Which players moved to what bands. Who retired. There are similarities.
	10:00pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:59 In art and music, it's interesting to discuss authenticity as an abstract and ultimately unattainable quality.
	10:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:58 Our internet is provided by [insert heartless mega-company here], and as a result, just sucks. I sort of wish we could do something about it, but we're outside the city, proper, so it is what it is.
	10:02pm Geoff-U: I always like flipping the Atari 2600 power on-off-on-off-on very quickly until you got a partially-loaded mutant game. Sometimes they were even semi-playable
	10:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:00 I was just talking about this with my boss the other day. He was talking about how, in the 80's and 90's, so many arguments about authenticity drove all the conversation about punk rock, so much so that bands would be written off for not sporting the right attitude that was "hip" at the "moment." Now, all that stuff has largely been forgotten, but the albums live on, and sound like 80's and 90's punk records.
	10:03pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:00 I wish internet companies didn't arrange monopolies for certain areas. Its annoying to see ads for better ones you can't use
	10:03pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:00 I have a conspiracy theory that wifi is free for certain government officials, and it's just the suckers who are forced to pay for it. I think it could be a public service at this point, certainly people can't choose to be free from any theoretically harmful quality that come from electronic smog.
	10:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Geoff-U @10:02 Woah! That's sort of cool. Playing a Pac-Man that only sort of works?
	10:03pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:03 It was the ultimate insult to call a musician a "sell-out."
	10:04pm ramencity: Selling out is now a side-hustle!
	10:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:03 Yeah. I love knowing about all the options I don't have, because of where I live.
	10:04pm Geoff-U: ↳ Austin Rich @10:03 Yeah exactly - you could get super weird partially-broken games with scrambled graphics, maps, etc.
	10:04pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:03 My concept of authenticity is more whether or not an artist is someone with a "vision" or a "song and a dream", and whether or not they are doing it as a gimmick or as a fit of inspiration.
	10:06pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Geoff-U @10:02 I just released subscriber material by Dan of Earth, who himself designed a broken atari game.
	10:06pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:04 Same here. Our area has the option for internet through the electric company by I am in a condo complex that made a deal with the cable company so they won't let us use the competition
	10:07pm Geoff-U: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:06 Ooh neat!
	10:07pm Arvo Zylo: danofearth.bandcamp.com...
	10:07pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:06 Your subscriber material is always very inspiring. And you released some of my stuff that way, which I very much appreciate!
	10:07pm Imaginos: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:06 Dan of Earth. I wonder if he got the handle from Den?
	10:08pm Geoff-U: We just got Ziply fiber on our street, I had to crack a beer and get comfy to truly enjoy telling ComCrap to go F themselves :D
	10:08pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:07 Thank you! It's an honor to have you.
	10:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ Geoff-U @10:04 I love that era of glitch.
	10:08pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Imaginos @10:07 I don't know, but the cover art is a photo of him pouring salt on the floor...
	10:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "The Sea of Bliss" by "K2 ( 草深公秀, Kusafuka Kimihide)" This is on Tribe Tapes, great label.
	10:09pm Austin Rich: I think I got the timing wrong on the "Dessicant" track and the "K2" track. Many appologies. It's hard to know where one stops and the other starts.
	10:10pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:09 Doing fine!
	10:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:09 Tribe Tapes reissued a bunch of Big City Orchestra stuff, and released an excellent VHS movie that BCO made that you can only get on that VHS tape. (At least, right now. )
	10:12pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:11 That's great. I had a label offer to do a VHS, but I never got around to learning a video program to do a collage. I owned a couple on Out-of-Body Records, great label out of Texas.
	10:12pm Austin Rich: Damn, this K2 track is excellent! I need to explore more.
	10:13pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:12 K2 is typically harsh noise, this is an anomaly in their catalog, as I understand it. They did a great split LP with Blackfire, which is Wyatt Howland (Skin Graft) and Andrew Kirschner.
	10:14pm Austin Rich: Arvo loathes to self-promote, so if you are curious about the music he releases, here's a link. I see an Illusion of Safety album that I probably need to get... nopartofit.bandcamp.com
	10:15pm Geoff-U: Following now :)
	10:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:14 Thank you! It's subscriber-centric currently, but there is still some merch available!
	10:17pm ramencity: re: selling out - gotta post this Ian Svenonius quote: "The labor model for independent groups is a primitive, fractured cross between the minstrels of the Dark Ages and an Avon lady."
	10:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:17 I need to get that book!
	10:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ ramencity @10:17 just to be clear, I never used the term "selling out" and only mainly focus on how people navigate the concept of creating something, and also wanting to share it, for whatever reasons they may have.
	10:19pm Austin Rich: I need a second me, that can just read books and comics and watch movies and listen to records. And then at night we can merge minds. There's just too much to do.
	10:19pm Imaginos: What does it say about a person when, when asked if they prefer Ginger or MaryAnn , they say Mrs Howell?
	10:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:19 It's funny that this conversation is sounding more and more like stuff that comes up in therapy when I'm talking to them.
	10:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:19 They know who has the dough?
	10:20pm Arvo Zylo: This is in reference to my conversation with the late Wm. Berger, where we were sort of talking about labels who rip people off and people who are generally disingenuous, but also make "good noise" and such.
	10:21pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:20 Money wasn't really useful on the island
	10:21pm ramencity: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:19 Oh for sure - I was thinking recently about how 'selling out' was the worst accusation you could make once upon a time, and you don't really hear that with 'the kidz' these days.
	10:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:20 Certainly. The reason people do the creative things they do seems to be a subject I'm obsessed with, for some reason.
	10:23pm Arvo Zylo: The artist as a cultural phenomena is fascinating, as if an artist is simply a community figure going around and showing us what is possible. But then also there is the idea of doing something, and then trying to make a living at it. Fewer and fewer people get to make a living by virtue of being an artist as a lifestyle, most people are too busy working to be truly as free as an artist needs to be, I feel .
	10:24pm coelacanth∅))): ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:23 100% true
	10:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:23 I tried to explain this to my therapist, and she said, "Why can't you make art after work?" Well, you can. But it's not as good... and you're tired... and you need to eat, and work out, and spend time with you pets, and decompress, and sleep eight hours, and eat healthy, and don't act too weird in public, and, and, and... When do you have time to write that poem, again?
	10:25pm Geoff-U: I need to run, wife has requested a neighborhood walkabout before it gets too late. Thank you Austin and Arvo for the excellent show, it's been a joy
	10:26pm ramencity: ↳ Austin Rich @10:25 Sleep for 8 hours? Well there's your problem right there! :0
	10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Geoff-U @10:25 Thanks again, Geoff-U! See ya soon.
	10:26pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:25 It's also that our culture won't support people like Salvador Dali or Andy Warhol the way they did in the past. They had to put food on the table too, but they made good money for once.
	10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:26 Exactly. I don't sleep at all anymore, and suddenly THAT'S the only reason I'm crazy?
	10:27pm Arvo Zylo: I remained prolific in my 20s because I was a severe insomniac. I should be dead from the amount of time I went without sleep. I started meditating in 2011, that's what helped me sleep regularly. It's still a challenge sometimes.
	10:29pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:25 Inspiration has no schedule. Unless you count it consistently coming when you're as far from your implements as possible
	10:29pm Austin Rich: I talked a lot at the top, and the last tune is very long, so we'll go over tonight. It's not that I CAN'T end on time. It's that I don't wanna, and you can't make me, wah!
	10:30pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Imaginos @10:29 There's also the need for a time when you don't have to be inspired. There needs to be times where you can decompress and be okay with no productivity.
	10:30pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:29 That is 100% truth. I stand up to go and do something else, and I remember everything I was going to do and haven't done yet and need to write down, but I don't have a pen.
	10:31pm Imaginos: I'm getting sleepy. But tonight has been excellent.
	10:31pm laurapanic: totally loving this set
	10:31pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:29 I am leaving off with a track that I didn't think you would possibly play the entirety of!
	10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:31 I appreciate you and the time you spend with my radio shows! Thank you.
	10:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The Mirror, With Its Mysterious Light" by "Leo Wolf" Well, I need more of this in my life, for sure.
	10:32pm Arvo Zylo: Thanks everybody so much for listening! It's always an honor to do this with Austin!
	10:32pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:31 You're welcome. And thanks for the amazing shows
	10:34pm Austin Rich: I'm currently working on editing an interview I did with this gentleman, Brian Frankish, who I was talking to for purely selfish reasons, but who happens to have produced a lot of movies in Hollywood, and has an interesting life story. The interview will air on this show, probably later this year. I'm only a 1/3 of the way done with the editing. www.imdb.com...
	10:36pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:34 Cool! Are you gonna pitch him one of your screenplays?
	10:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:36 He's largely retired, but he would probably listen if I had something good. But I'm not sure I wanna make movies. Other people do that very well, and I have lots of radio that needs making. But I will write a novel someday.
	10:38pm Arvo Zylo: Field of Dreams... that one was big... Also American Me, not sure what else I have seen at a glance. Incidentally, I saw a sneak preview of "Fly Me To The Moon" yesterday. The moon landing shenanigans... not bad. Kevin Costner's new cowboy thing is just a pilot, will be four movies apparently. Already filming part 3.
	10:39pm Austin Rich: I was curious about "Fly Me To The Moon." I love all things moon-related, and I'm a NASA nerd, for sure.
	10:39pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:38 I want to write some pilots and a novel some day, among other things. I know how it goes.
	10:40pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:39 It's not quite out yet, I enjoyed it. It was well-written. I don't know the truth, but it's a funny story.
	10:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:40 Sometimes the truth is boring. My Grandmother worked for Boeing, and actually was part of the team that built one of the Lunar Rovers, that Boeing made for NASA. It's the most famous thing that anyone in our family has done, and it left an impact on me.
	10:43pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:41 That's pretty cool. I don't care much for astronomy, but I do find the moon fascinating. That dust can reflect so much light, for example, is fascinating. It seems like a big asteroid, but apparently it's not.
	10:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:43 It really seems to be so personal, and impacts us so much, and yet, everyone on Earth gets to experience it.
	10:48pm Heather: Awesome show, Arvo and Austin! Thanks for a lovely evening of listening! Good night!
	10:49pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Heather @10:48 Thanks Heather! Sleep well!
	10:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" While I do think the circumstances of the recording of these loops is interesting, I think that is often the thing people lead with when they talk about these recordings, and not the thing that I always wanted to know: are they good? Fortunately they are, and I do enjoy listening to them. I wish people would focus on the sound more.
	10:51pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:49 Basinski gets to play decent sized music fests now. Not sure how much he would have if it weren't for this release, it really did get a lot of press. I think he is pretty excellent at ambient work, but haven't seen him live to know what it is he does that would have him share a bill with metal bands and such.
	10:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:51 Meanwhile, I used to see people who would play stuff as good as this - maybe even better? - who were playing to 12 people, and who gave away cdrs for free. The music world is completely structured wrong, from top to bottom.
	10:53pm coelacanth∅))): Thank you Arvo! Thank you Rich!
	10:53pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" This music (plus the accompanying video) is the only great art to have come out of Sept 11.
	10:53pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ coelacanth∅))) @10:53 Thank you!
	10:53pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" I thought I recognised this.....its on a playlist a friend made me. I love it.
	10:54pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:53 I think They Might Be Giants released an album that day. As you can imagine: their worst selling record, yet.
	10:54pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @10:53 I've not seen the video...I'll track it down now.
	10:58pm Austin Rich: I've been thinking I need to incorporate more videos and projections into my shows. For better or for worse, I look like a knob-twiddler when I play, and I mostly just dance behind my table while I'm playing. I think some visuals would help improve that show. Or maybe I need hired dancers?
	10:58pm Mr. X: Thanks for the stereogram, Arvo! Keep 'em coming! And thanks for making it all happen, Austin!
	10:59pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:58 Thank you, Mr. X. (And everyone else, listening and lurking. You always make my Tuesdays.)
	11:00pm coelacanth∅))): i have the disintegration loops in several bedtime playlists, and other Basinski pieces...listening to him going back to ~2011, when i discovered bandcamp. ...i never knew it had something to do with the world trade center bombing.
	11:00pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @10:58 Thanks for sticking around! I was going to talk about the insect songs! There is Insect Deli, Earwig Spectre, Irene Moon (of course), Bumblebee Unlimited, etc.
	11:02pm Arvo Zylo: Stomping The Bug by Fats Waller, from Eraserhead soundtrack...
	11:02pm Austin Rich: So, we have 30 minutes more to go! We'll see how long the playlist let's us keep chatting. Sometimes, it shunts the chat to the bottom of the page. You can still comment, but it is less elegant than this format. Hang in, there, if that's your style. I'll be around...
	11:02pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:58 I think you can do things with lighting and shadows to make knob twiddling more interesting and artsy. The lighting at that Funagain Games show you played at was special in that way.
	11:03pm laurapanic: oooh lets push the boundaries of the Jungle room!!!
	11:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:02 Certainly more possible at some shows than others. I would love to be able to play regular again. I miss that.
	11:03pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:00 The next one is going to be bands with amphibians and reptiles in their name.
	11:03pm Arvo Zylo: Two bug related songs on the Hairspray soundtrack... www.discogs.com...
	11:05pm Arvo Zylo: Amphibious Gestures! www.discogs.com...
	11:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:03 I just watched Hairspray with my partner the other day. That soundtrack is so excellent. She says she saw it as a youth, and watched that and Dune over and over again in High School.
	11:06pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:05 Looks like they played at Norcal Noisefest.
	11:07pm Arvo Zylo: I recently did a set with Colonel Claypool and The Frog Brigade, and also a synth project called "Frog Concert" frogconcert.bandcamp.com...
	11:07pm Austin Rich: Unless someone else starts up a new version of NorCal NoiseFest, the show is now retired. October will be much more quiet.
	11:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:06 I loved Hairspray as a kid. Dune I have still yet to see. Outside of The Thing and Alien, not a lot of sci-fi inspires me, sadly. I did like first generation Star Trek as a kid, simply because it was what was on after TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE...
	11:10pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @11:06 Skozey Fetisch is a great project that A. Gestures is a member of, may be defunct, highly recommended.
	11:10pm laurapanic: here in Australia we had the amazing What Is Music? festival. I think Oren Ambarchi started it. He is our main export in the noise/ambient world. And Lucas Abela, who is touring your parts very soon. www.australianmusiccentre.com.au...
	11:10pm Austin Rich: The Thing is so excellent, and Alien is great. Those are hard to top. I'm a sucker for almost anything set in space. I was excited to talk to Brian because he produced "The Last Starfighter," which I adored as a lad.
	11:11pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:10 I have seen both Lucas Abela (as Justice Yeldham) and Oren Ambarchi (play to fifty people)!
	11:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:10 Oh, yeah. Justice has been through before. I know a lot of folks who went to that one.
	11:12pm laurapanic: His tour: 030724 New York @ Union Pool @union_pool @endetymes 050724 Philadelphia @ the Rotunda @the_rotunda_philly 060724 Richmond @ The Wharehouse 070724 Raleigh @ Ruby Deluxe @rubydeluxeraleigh 080724 Charlotte @themilestoneclub 090724 Asheville @ Static Age Records @static_age_record_store 100724 Atlanta @ Mom Said Its Fine @momsaiditsfine @faceofknivesproductions 110724 Chattanooga @ Sluggos @sluggosnorth @chattanooga_noise_night 120724 Nashville @ Disctrix 130724 Louisville @ Cave Valley Kava @cavevalleykava 140724 St. Louis @ William A. Kerr Foundation 150724 Kansas City @ Farewell @farewellkcmo 160724 Omaha @reverb_lounge @blackheartbook 170724 Iowa City @ Trumpet Blossom Café @trumpetblossom @feed_me_weird_things_iowa_city 180724 Minneapolis @ Artery @thearterympls 190724 Rock Island @ Rozz Tox @rozztox289 200724 Chicago @ Digital Art Demo Space @dadschicago 210724 Indianapolis @ Healer DIY @healerdiy 220724 Cincinnati @ COMET @cometbar 230724 Detroit @ TYMPANUM @mikecollino 240724 Toronto @seescapeto @burndownthecapital 250724 Rochester @ The Psychic Garden @the_psychic_garden 260724 Akron @ Cave @caveakron 270724 Columbus @ Cafe Bourbon St @cafebourbonstreet 280724 Pittsburgh @ Sprezzaturapgh @sprezzaturapgh 290724 Baltimore @ Red Room @highzerofoundation
	11:13pm Austin Rich: Nothing near the Mid-Valley, but that's okay. Next time.
	11:13pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:10 I remember enjoying The Abyss as a kid... www.imdb.com...
	11:13pm laurapanic: I've seen both, many times, since the 90s. They were in the same city as me, so I went to many things.
	11:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:13 I remember that one being pretty good. Been ages since I saw it.
	11:14pm Arvo Zylo: I also thought Dark Star was funny as a kid. www.imdb.com...
	11:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:13 A nearby city is having an experimental fest at the end of the month, that I will attend. (I might get to play a set! Fingers crossed.) Looking forward to seeing what the kids are doing now.
	11:15pm Arvo Zylo: I recently saw a space movie where Russians and Americans are on the same spaceship, and they are tricked into killing eachother... forgot the name of it. It was interesting, kinda slow in pace.
	11:15pm Mr Fab: ↳ laurapanic @11:12 Does he still smush broken glass on his face?
	11:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:14 That movie rules! It's like "what if Alien was funny?"
	11:15pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:14 Dark Star ranks high on my list. I love the use of muffin tins as robot parts.
	11:16pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @11:15 yes he does and I think some of those shows say they will feature that feat... I think....
	11:16pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @11:15 O'Bannon, who write Dark Star, also wrote Return of the Living Dead, which is my favorite horror movie (at least in terms of horror movies that aren't scary).
	11:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:16 He did that on the last tour. I am always blown away he does that.
	11:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:16 Return of The Living Dead is one of my favorite movies. It's great!
	11:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:16 My mind was pretty much blown, I'm pretty sure Lucas Abela was the one who designed a race course made out of vinyl records, and remote control cars rigged with turntable needles, so this racetrack was an insane noise installation, so fucking cool.
	11:18pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" So I gather the disintigration was caused by ash particles and crap sticking to the tape and tape head and eroding it?
	11:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @11:18 I don't know, but I did not mean for Austin to stay up all night with this track! Sorry Austin! Thanks Austin!
	11:19pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @11:18 Yeah, they were old tapes so he was recording them to preserve them, but they were literally falling apart in the process.
	11:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:18 There's a little more information here: en.wikipedia.org...
	11:20pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:17 I gthnk it was him yeh
	11:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:19 The sun hasn't even gone down yet. It's early!
	11:21pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr Fab @11:19 This process was happening as he watched the 9/11 smoke from Manhattan from his Brooklyn home, with a video camera rolling.
	11:22pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:21 Definitely! I like to go to sleep around sunrise. I have an opaque black canopy bed in lieu of blackout curtains. Couldn't afford a proper custom-made coffin.
	11:23pm Austin Rich: If Lucas can tour the US so easily, I wonder what it would cost to tour Australia? I've never been. Would be a fun vacation.
	11:23pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @11:21 I see, the tapes were falling apart anyway. Probably indoors, unaffected by ash and fallout.
	11:24pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:23 I saw he had gofundme or kickstarter to fund his tour at one point.
	11:24pm Mr Fab: I must admit I know nothing else about Basinski. Most people don’t, I imagine. It may be great! But this piece is so massive he is kinda a one-hit-wonder of the avant-garde world.
	11:24pm Austin Rich: This part at the end, where it is sounding very mangled, is when it gets very good to my ears.
	11:24pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:23 I think the hard part is getting booked.
	11:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:24 As usual.
	11:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:24 A lot of artists suffer in that way. If they are lucky to get remembered for ONE thing, that's sort of amazing.
	11:25pm Arvo Zylo: Being that I have recently listened to the Melvins after about a ten year break, I am thinking of Amphetamine Reptile label... www.discogs.com... (If Mr. X is still awake)
	11:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:25 That label put out a lot of great stuff.
	11:26pm Arvo Zylo: And of course The Frogs, Clarence Frogman Henry, and so many artists who use field recordings of frogs, particularly dave phillips...
	11:27pm Austin Rich: Thanks again everyone for joining us on this musical journey! Always fun to hang out with my digital crew.
	11:28pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:25 Slowly disintegrating here.
	11:28pm Arvo Zylo: 🤠🤠🤠
	11:28pm coelacanth∅))): Lovely Thanks again
	11:29pm Mr Fab: Thanx all for the awesome-ness!
	11:30pm Arvo Zylo: Thanks again!~!~

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from July 2, 2024

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A combination of collage, new experimental records and other bits and bobs, Mid-Valley Mutations is a tour through the mind of Austin Rich, who has been broadcasting in some form since 1998. Heavily influenced by Dr Demento, Don Joyce and old fashioned College Radio, Austin creates Audio Essays on a variety of subjects, and even just plays records, from time to time. Sometimes Live music and Interviews will grace the program, helping create a situation where you don't really know what you're going to hear, when you tune in. What you need to know is when you enter the Mid-Valley region, be prepared for the Musical Mutations... in whatever form they take.

Tuesday 9 - 11pm (EDT) | On WFMU's Sheena's Jungle Room
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Tue. Sep 24th, 9pm - 11pm: Arvo Zylo (More info...)
Arvo Zylo returns to Mid-Valley Mutations to expound on a few bygone personalities, in radio and television, as well as to open up a feast on some monster music, devil music, cat music, death music, new music, old music, and even a bit of non-denominational music.

July 2, 2024: Stereogram #8: Quid Pro Quo Pro Quo Pro Quo (w/ Arvo Zylo)

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
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Austin Intro "Austin Intro"
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Shadows In Blue	Mid-Valley Mutations Opening Theme	Mid-Valley Mutations Opening Theme	Self-Released	0:03:44 (Pop-up)
A Cassettone Orchestra	Clockworkin' In The Rain [Excerpt]	A Cassettone Orchestra	Forever Escaping Boredom	0:05:18 (Pop-up)
Rudy Vallée	Whistling In The Dark	My Dancing Lady	Sunbeam	0:07:36 (Pop-up)
Pärson Sound	Blåslåten "Blåslåten" by "Pärson Sound"	Parson Sound	Subliminal Sounds	0:10:55 (Pop-up)
Swedish psychedelic rock band of 1967, predecessor of International Harvester, Harvester, and Träd, Gräs Och Stenar.
Arseny Avraamov	The Workers’ Funeral March (Reconstructed from 1922)	Baku: Symphony Of Sirens. (Sound Experiments In The Russian Avant Garde)	ReR Megacorp	0:16:10 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: A Cassettone Orchestra	Synth You’ve Been Gone	A Cassettone Orchestra	Forever Escaping Boredom	0:20:02 (Pop-up)
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Alexander Mosolov	Iron Foundry (1927)	A Young Person’s Guide To The Avant-Garde	Avant-Garde Art	0:24:03 (Pop-up)
Doug Abram	West Lawn Dirge "West Lawn Dirge" by "Doug Abram"	Dirges And Film Music	Self-Released	0:27:01 (Pop-up)
https://dougabram.bandcamp.com/ "https://dougabram.bandcamp.com/"
Boban Markovic Orkestar	Zaidi "Zaidi" by "Boban Markovic Orkestar"	Millenium	ITMM	0:33:22 (Pop-up)
From Serbia. "From Serbia."
Weeping Moon	Buried Beneath The Stars	Vampiric Sorcery	Rabauw	0:40:28 (Pop-up)
Glenn Danzig	Battle For Heaven "Battle For Heaven" by "Glenn Danzig"	Black Aria	Plan 9 Records	0:43:12 (Pop-up)
Vulcan Ironworks	We Have All Been Haunted	Hinchinarfer	Rota Frangitur	0:47:02 (Pop-up)
Nick Lucas	I’m Tired of Everything But You	I'm Tired Of Everything But You / I Might Have Known	Brunswick	0:49:58 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Isham Jones & Orchestra	I’m Tired of Everything But You			0:52:53 (Pop-up)
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Biota	Burning Daylight 1 "Burning Daylight 1" by "Biota"	Almost Never	ReR Megacorp	0:58:30 (Pop-up)
Dessicant	Side A (excerpt) "Side A (excerpt)" by "Dessicant"	“2”	Forever Escaping Boredom	1:02:32 (Pop-up)
K2 ( 草深公秀, Kusafuka Kimihide)	The Sea of Bliss	Demise Symphonika	Tribe Tapes	1:05:05 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Monks of Benedictine Abbey	Monastery Bells	Festival of Gregorian Chants		1:19:58 (Pop-up)
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IO	Bells (excerpt) "Bells (excerpt)" by "IO"	(gap)	Self-Released	1:22:41 (Pop-up)
From Brazil. "From Brazil."
Leo Wolf	The Mirror, With Its Mysterious Light	Shapeshifter	Dead Letters Archive	1:29:08 (Pop-up)
The Stranger	I’ll Be Seeing You	The Stranger	Phthalo	1:38:42 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Pierre Schaeffer	Cinq Études de bruits: Étude Noire - L'Œuvre Musicale			1:42:31 (Pop-up)
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William Basinski	dlp 3 (excerpt) "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski"	The Disintegration Loops	Temporary Residence Limited	1:46:44 (Pop-up)
Shadows In Blue	Mid-Valley Mutations Closing Theme	Mid-Valley Mutations Closing Theme	Self-Released

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Listener comments!
	6:38pm Austin Rich: Good Hello.
	7:43pm Arvo Zylo: Howdy!
	9:00pm Imaginos: Ahoy
	9:00pm Mr. X: Quicks are for quids.
	9:01pm Mr Fab: Hail, mutants!
	9:01pm Arvo Zylo: Is there a band called Pizza Carcass? Should be....
	9:01pm ramencity: 'ey up me ducks!
	9:02pm Geoff-U: Gave my leftover pizza a sriracha bath, got the laptop plugged into the stereo, let's do this!
	9:03pm Arvo Zylo: I snuck into movie theaters through the fire exit when I was a kid... not the greatest films, sadly, but it was fun until I was threatened by the ushers in the bathroom. They had broomsticks!
	9:03pm Krys O.: Howdy! It's a concentrated work week for me and my energy levels are crashing. Cheers, all! Have fun radio-ing!
	9:04pm Imaginos: We appreciate you too
	9:04pm Arvo Zylo: Mr. X did a good show last week! Made me think of my insect set back in 2009 or so... and I looked up Tarantula Ghoul, had no idea it was anything other than another band on those Halloween comps... shame she didn't make it to any archives.... I love old horror hosts!
	9:05pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Krys O. @9:03 Thanks for stopping in!
	9:05pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:04 Thanks Arvo, passing the baton to you!
	9:05pm Arvo Zylo: Meow valtations
	9:06pm Geoff-U: I didn't have to sneak in to R-rated movies, my dad took me to Barbarella when I was like 7 This may have been a "This is our secret/don't tell your mom" situation haha :D
	9:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:04 Glad you checked out Tarantula Ghoul! She's one of my fave things to bring up around Halloween.
	9:07pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Geoff-U @9:06 My parents let me rent and watch horror movies when I was a kid. I was about four years old when I saw Return of The Living Dead, and saw it on VHS again, my grandma ran in front of the TV and said "This is Filth"! I snuck into movies because I didn't have money....
	9:08pm Austin Rich: I didn't go to many movies as a kid, and even as a teen, my parents always said there wasn't the money. So the times I did see movies in theaters were very memorable to me. I saw most of my cinema at home, on a small TV.
	9:08pm Mr Fab: Austin (or anyone else) if you're getting into that summer mood, I'll be hosting an epic special this July 5th, from 9am - 4pm called "Groovy! Pseven Hours of Psychedelic Psummer Psounds." Not on the calendar yet - you heard it here first!
	9:09pm Geoff-U: I mostly went to the $2 second-run theater since paper route dollars were very precious
	9:09pm Arvo Zylo: In the Chicago Area, there was a theater called "Harlem Corners" that had third run films for $1.50. On Sundays my dad and I would go to the flea market and watch a movie. We didn't buy much at the flea market usually, it was just a place to browse ideas, I think.
	9:09pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:08 I'm stoked about this show! And if X-Day doesn't happen - again - I'll absolutely be listening.
	9:10pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Whistling In The Dark" by "Rudy Vallée" I'm such a sucker for Rudy Vallée these days. I just love this kind of song.
	9:12pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:10 I listen to this sort of thing all the time. Old souls and all that...
	9:12pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Blåslåten" by "Pärson Sound" Arvo, you know me too well these days! I'm such a sucker for that Harvester / Träd Gräs Och Stenar stuff. Thanks for playing this!
	9:13pm Geoff-U: This Pärson Sound is neat!
	9:14pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:09 what a great memory.....browsing ideas.....
	9:14pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:12 Thanks! A young fellow named Hunter, who had a noise project in Cleveland called "Malware" probably recommended this to me ten years ago, when he was under 18. Did a show with him, but he opened and left after because of the illegality of his presence in a bar.... He was good! Took an angle grinder to an amplified stop sign...
	9:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:14 Thanks for droppin' in!
	9:15pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @9:14 Hi Laura, thank you! I hope you are well!!
	9:16pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:14 "But I know sometimes I must get out in the light / Better leave her behind with the kids, they're alright / The kids are alright."
	9:16pm Arvo Zylo: "Blåslåten " means "Blues Song"
	9:17pm laurapanic: I love a mellow noise terror set
	9:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:17 After going to enough fests, where every pair of noise bros in the world offer a confrontational harsh noise wall, I find stuff like this so much more engaging.
	9:19pm Mr. X: ↳ laurapanic @9:17 @laurapanic: Austin and I watched your video and concluded that your band kicks some serious butt.
	9:21pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 I have done radio shows where it's all harsh noise, and had the phone calls where people asked if there is something wrong with the transmitter... been there done that, it's nice to expand.
	9:23pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:21 Agreed. It's fun stuff, occasionally, and certainly as a nice punctuation, or contrast. But when it's all that, all the time... it becomes a little boring, after a while. I prefer a more balanced line-up, with artists from a number of genres.
	9:24pm Mr Fab: ↳ Austin Rich @9:18 There are "noise bros"? I'm imagining frat boys, now working as stockbrokers or in Silicon Valley, going off to some underground gallery with their power tools and circuit-bent instruments. It's a crazy world we're livin in!
	9:24pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 oh jeez, well thanks!
	9:24pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:23 Freeform radio needs to keep changing for me, unless it's conceptual or something. I like to set a tone for meditation sometimes, so I used to do entire sets of conceptual droning noise stuff. I generally gravitate toward an "industrial drone" if I can.
	9:25pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @9:24 there are definitely noise bros
	9:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @9:24 You're not far off. Perhaps "bro" is too harsh. But... I think it immediately evokes the kind of guy I'm talking about.
	9:25pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @9:19 Well then laura, send me your mp3s/wav/FLAC etc, so I can add stuff to the Sheena stream forthwith!
	9:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Iron Foundry (1927)" by "Alexander Mosolov" I love the idea of this album. I wish there had been a "Young Person's Guide To The Avant-Garde" when I was a kid.
	9:27pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:26 The B side to this 78 is on youtube, also very good. It's a great comp!
	9:28pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @9:25 I will! Just mixing down some stuff now.
	9:28pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 Hell yeah!
	9:29pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 I just sent some tracks to be mixed / messed with by a friend, and I'm looking forward to hearing the results. You get too far in the weeds on your own. It's good to have other ears.
	9:30pm Arvo Zylo: Doug Abram is a member of Black Bear Combo, a marching band who now apparently do that as a career, once did a set of funeral marches for me, when I booked a show on 6/6/2006 with a kiddie pool full of red jello for "blood wrestling" and other tidbits... Great people.
	9:31pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @9:29 we just recorded live in our friend's record store, he set up the sound gear and it was great. Do a take, browse records waiting for next set up, do a take.....
	9:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:30 I did a radio show with my buddy Jesse Ransom that date! He learned an "anti-Christian" song for the show. He was great!
	9:32pm laurapanic: Love me a dirge and funeral march. soothing stuff
	9:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:31 Woah. That's, like, the ideal way to record!
	9:32pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @9:28 I saw a bandcamp link in the chat at some point (I don't always comment live, but I do often listen to the archives). Feel free to link me to the bandcamp. I have a little mixcloud thing that I just started recently. www.mixcloud.com...
	9:34pm coelacanth∅))): 'evening Austin Rich and mid-valley mutants
	9:34pm Imaginos: ↳ coelacanth∅))) @9:34 Evening
	9:34pm Austin Rich: ↳ coelacanth∅))) @9:34 Thanks for joining us, coelacanthø))). I love both your amps and the experimental band named after you.
	9:35pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:32 nothing yet but when we do I'll be sure to bring it up regularly
	9:35pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "From Serbia." Easily my favorite show I have ever seen, 2003, prior to the collective self-consciousness that cell phone cameras brought upon us. Everyone was throwing money at the band like they were strippers!
	9:38pm coelacanth∅))): ↳ Imaginos @9:34 hi Imaginos!
	9:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:35 I have not been to many shows at all since covid, so I have approached them very differently than I did in the years immediately before. I think the thing that weirds me out the most, now, when I do go to a show, is seeing all the people who are not watching the bands.
	9:39pm coelacanth∅))): ↳ Austin Rich @9:34 ha! me too!
	9:40pm Imaginos: Started attending more theater recently thanks to card to culture
	9:40pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:38 I still haven't been to a show since October 2019, The Adicts. Was fun, except for blowhards in the audience. Still have a few of the playing cards they threw into the audience.
	9:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:40 I was going to more theater and classical performances, pre-covid. Easily "Little Shop of Horrors" was the best theater experience I've seen, but I'm sure there are other great ones, too.
	9:42pm laurapanic: ↳ Austin Rich @9:38 I hate the "watching live show through my phone" aesthetic. Like, watch the show? they never watch those videos back I know it!!!
	9:42pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @9:42 Even worse, someone who is friend's with the band has a camera set up somewhere, so it'll be on YouTube later. Just watch the show. Take a discreet pic and enjoy yourself.
	9:43pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 I almost went to see Adam Ant. I live near a symphony center. Thankfully got to see a live orchestra accompaniment to Nosferatu before the pandemic.
	9:43pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:41 Recently saw La Cage and am planning to see Boeing Boeing
	9:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:43 A lot of people I know went to shows on this Adam Ant tour. It was VERY tempting, but I'm seeing unwound in Oct. I'm patient.
	9:44pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "Battle For Heaven" by "Glenn Danzig" This selection gave me flashbacks, Arvo. We used to listen to this album when we would play D&D back in the day. Outside of that context, I don't think I've heard this album since.
	9:45pm Heather: ↳ laurapanic @9:42 I was at a show ages ago with my friend Renee and someone was taking phone vid. Renee elbowed me and said completely deadpan, "they're going to watch that when they get home tonight." I had to stop watching the show for a sec because she totally cracked me up with that!
	9:46pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:44 I never got into D&D, but this is my first taste of solo home-recorded instrumental music that could fall under "dungeon synth", which is something I like in theory more than in application a lot of the time.
	9:46pm Austin Rich: All the Cell Phones at shows is just preparing us for living in the matrix. I should re-read all those William Gibson books so I'm ready for what's coming.
	9:47pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:46 WINTERMUTE
	9:47pm Arvo Zylo: Hi to everyone that popped in since the last time I said hi to everyone!
	9:48pm Imaginos: It would be fun to have a show with carnival ride music. Like the music from Villa Volte
	9:48pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:46 He was certainly ahead of the curve. If you ever get curious about D&D, there's plenty of ways to play online, so you don't even have to go to some weird guy's basement, where he makes you listen to Rush and talks about all the girls he's kissed, before you can start playing.
	9:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:48 I think Heather was working on a circus / carnival themed show.
	9:50pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "We Have All Been Haunted" by "Vulcan Ironworks" This selection totally floored me when I first heard it, Arvo. It's new to me, and magnificent! Totally checking out more by them later.
	9:50pm Geoff-U: Ooh this Vulcan Ironworks is up my alley :)
	9:50pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:48 I am very much a fan of Stranger Things, but D&D just isn't in me. My uncle was big into D&D in the 80s. I drew pictures of some of these characters he showed me, when I was about 8.
	9:51pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @9:49 youtu.be...
	9:51pm Imaginos: ↳ Imaginos @9:51 I wrote the lyrics
	9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:50 It's an acquired taste, for sure. I was more into Cyberpunk and more modern-set games when I was a kid, but I played what I could get.
	9:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:51 Very cool! I'll check it out.
	9:52pm Mr. X: D&D ruined some friendships among my peers. The DM kept killing off characters that they were a little too attached to.
	9:53pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "I’m Tired of Everything But You" by "Nick Lucas" This might be one of the greatest songs ever recorded.
	9:54pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:52 There was a CDROM called "Zork" that I liked, but other than that, there was the neighbor who had Nintendo, and we played Cops & Robbers or basketball the rest of the time.
	9:54pm Heather Z: ↳ Austin Rich @9:49 I sure was and still should be. I have so many files and pages of script and notes! And ahh.
	9:54pm Austin Rich: Oh! I know Rafael's stuff. He often collaborate's with Hal McGee.
	9:55pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:54 Yep, we used to be in that one facebook group when we were still on facebook...
	9:56pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:55 I don't know the other gent. I'll have to investigate him more.
	9:56pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:53 Thanks! I am also fond of Nick Lucas.
	9:56pm Imaginos: You are in a maze of twisting turning passages all alike
	9:57pm Austin Rich: Damn. We lost connection for a second. Sorry everyone! I'll try to get a pristine version up for the archive.
	9:57pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @9:56 Man, I loved Zork. It was so hard!
	9:58pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:57 A nice bit of incidental sound collage!
	9:59pm Austin Rich: Sports fans argue about sports facts and figures. Which players moved to what teams. Who retired. Music fans argue about music facts and figures. Which players moved to what bands. Who retired. There are similarities.
	10:00pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @9:59 In art and music, it's interesting to discuss authenticity as an abstract and ultimately unattainable quality.
	10:00pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @9:58 Our internet is provided by [insert heartless mega-company here], and as a result, just sucks. I sort of wish we could do something about it, but we're outside the city, proper, so it is what it is.
	10:02pm Geoff-U: I always like flipping the Atari 2600 power on-off-on-off-on very quickly until you got a partially-loaded mutant game. Sometimes they were even semi-playable
	10:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:00 I was just talking about this with my boss the other day. He was talking about how, in the 80's and 90's, so many arguments about authenticity drove all the conversation about punk rock, so much so that bands would be written off for not sporting the right attitude that was "hip" at the "moment." Now, all that stuff has largely been forgotten, but the albums live on, and sound like 80's and 90's punk records.
	10:03pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:00 I wish internet companies didn't arrange monopolies for certain areas. Its annoying to see ads for better ones you can't use
	10:03pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:00 I have a conspiracy theory that wifi is free for certain government officials, and it's just the suckers who are forced to pay for it. I think it could be a public service at this point, certainly people can't choose to be free from any theoretically harmful quality that come from electronic smog.
	10:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Geoff-U @10:02 Woah! That's sort of cool. Playing a Pac-Man that only sort of works?
	10:03pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:03 It was the ultimate insult to call a musician a "sell-out."
	10:04pm ramencity: Selling out is now a side-hustle!
	10:04pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:03 Yeah. I love knowing about all the options I don't have, because of where I live.
	10:04pm Geoff-U: ↳ Austin Rich @10:03 Yeah exactly - you could get super weird partially-broken games with scrambled graphics, maps, etc.
	10:04pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:03 My concept of authenticity is more whether or not an artist is someone with a "vision" or a "song and a dream", and whether or not they are doing it as a gimmick or as a fit of inspiration.
	10:06pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Geoff-U @10:02 I just released subscriber material by Dan of Earth, who himself designed a broken atari game.
	10:06pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:04 Same here. Our area has the option for internet through the electric company by I am in a condo complex that made a deal with the cable company so they won't let us use the competition
	10:07pm Geoff-U: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:06 Ooh neat!
	10:07pm Arvo Zylo: danofearth.bandcamp.com...
	10:07pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:06 Your subscriber material is always very inspiring. And you released some of my stuff that way, which I very much appreciate!
	10:07pm Imaginos: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:06 Dan of Earth. I wonder if he got the handle from Den?
	10:08pm Geoff-U: We just got Ziply fiber on our street, I had to crack a beer and get comfy to truly enjoy telling ComCrap to go F themselves :D
	10:08pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:07 Thank you! It's an honor to have you.
	10:08pm Austin Rich: ↳ Geoff-U @10:04 I love that era of glitch.
	10:08pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Imaginos @10:07 I don't know, but the cover art is a photo of him pouring salt on the floor...
	10:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Song: "The Sea of Bliss" by "K2 ( 草深公秀, Kusafuka Kimihide)" This is on Tribe Tapes, great label.
	10:09pm Austin Rich: I think I got the timing wrong on the "Dessicant" track and the "K2" track. Many appologies. It's hard to know where one stops and the other starts.
	10:10pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:09 Doing fine!
	10:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:09 Tribe Tapes reissued a bunch of Big City Orchestra stuff, and released an excellent VHS movie that BCO made that you can only get on that VHS tape. (At least, right now. )
	10:12pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:11 That's great. I had a label offer to do a VHS, but I never got around to learning a video program to do a collage. I owned a couple on Out-of-Body Records, great label out of Texas.
	10:12pm Austin Rich: Damn, this K2 track is excellent! I need to explore more.
	10:13pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:12 K2 is typically harsh noise, this is an anomaly in their catalog, as I understand it. They did a great split LP with Blackfire, which is Wyatt Howland (Skin Graft) and Andrew Kirschner.
	10:14pm Austin Rich: Arvo loathes to self-promote, so if you are curious about the music he releases, here's a link. I see an Illusion of Safety album that I probably need to get... nopartofit.bandcamp.com
	10:15pm Geoff-U: Following now :)
	10:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:14 Thank you! It's subscriber-centric currently, but there is still some merch available!
	10:17pm ramencity: re: selling out - gotta post this Ian Svenonius quote: "The labor model for independent groups is a primitive, fractured cross between the minstrels of the Dark Ages and an Avon lady."
	10:18pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:17 I need to get that book!
	10:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ ramencity @10:17 just to be clear, I never used the term "selling out" and only mainly focus on how people navigate the concept of creating something, and also wanting to share it, for whatever reasons they may have.
	10:19pm Austin Rich: I need a second me, that can just read books and comics and watch movies and listen to records. And then at night we can merge minds. There's just too much to do.
	10:19pm Imaginos: What does it say about a person when, when asked if they prefer Ginger or MaryAnn , they say Mrs Howell?
	10:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:19 It's funny that this conversation is sounding more and more like stuff that comes up in therapy when I'm talking to them.
	10:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:19 They know who has the dough?
	10:20pm Arvo Zylo: This is in reference to my conversation with the late Wm. Berger, where we were sort of talking about labels who rip people off and people who are generally disingenuous, but also make "good noise" and such.
	10:21pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:20 Money wasn't really useful on the island
	10:21pm ramencity: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:19 Oh for sure - I was thinking recently about how 'selling out' was the worst accusation you could make once upon a time, and you don't really hear that with 'the kidz' these days.
	10:22pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:20 Certainly. The reason people do the creative things they do seems to be a subject I'm obsessed with, for some reason.
	10:23pm Arvo Zylo: The artist as a cultural phenomena is fascinating, as if an artist is simply a community figure going around and showing us what is possible. But then also there is the idea of doing something, and then trying to make a living at it. Fewer and fewer people get to make a living by virtue of being an artist as a lifestyle, most people are too busy working to be truly as free as an artist needs to be, I feel .
	10:24pm coelacanth∅))): ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:23 100% true
	10:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:23 I tried to explain this to my therapist, and she said, "Why can't you make art after work?" Well, you can. But it's not as good... and you're tired... and you need to eat, and work out, and spend time with you pets, and decompress, and sleep eight hours, and eat healthy, and don't act too weird in public, and, and, and... When do you have time to write that poem, again?
	10:25pm Geoff-U: I need to run, wife has requested a neighborhood walkabout before it gets too late. Thank you Austin and Arvo for the excellent show, it's been a joy
	10:26pm ramencity: ↳ Austin Rich @10:25 Sleep for 8 hours? Well there's your problem right there! :0
	10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Geoff-U @10:25 Thanks again, Geoff-U! See ya soon.
	10:26pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:25 It's also that our culture won't support people like Salvador Dali or Andy Warhol the way they did in the past. They had to put food on the table too, but they made good money for once.
	10:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ ramencity @10:26 Exactly. I don't sleep at all anymore, and suddenly THAT'S the only reason I'm crazy?
	10:27pm Arvo Zylo: I remained prolific in my 20s because I was a severe insomniac. I should be dead from the amount of time I went without sleep. I started meditating in 2011, that's what helped me sleep regularly. It's still a challenge sometimes.
	10:29pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:25 Inspiration has no schedule. Unless you count it consistently coming when you're as far from your implements as possible
	10:29pm Austin Rich: I talked a lot at the top, and the last tune is very long, so we'll go over tonight. It's not that I CAN'T end on time. It's that I don't wanna, and you can't make me, wah!
	10:30pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Imaginos @10:29 There's also the need for a time when you don't have to be inspired. There needs to be times where you can decompress and be okay with no productivity.
	10:30pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:29 That is 100% truth. I stand up to go and do something else, and I remember everything I was going to do and haven't done yet and need to write down, but I don't have a pen.
	10:31pm Imaginos: I'm getting sleepy. But tonight has been excellent.
	10:31pm laurapanic: totally loving this set
	10:31pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:29 I am leaving off with a track that I didn't think you would possibly play the entirety of!
	10:31pm Austin Rich: ↳ Imaginos @10:31 I appreciate you and the time you spend with my radio shows! Thank you.
	10:32pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "The Mirror, With Its Mysterious Light" by "Leo Wolf" Well, I need more of this in my life, for sure.
	10:32pm Arvo Zylo: Thanks everybody so much for listening! It's always an honor to do this with Austin!
	10:32pm Imaginos: ↳ Austin Rich @10:31 You're welcome. And thanks for the amazing shows
	10:34pm Austin Rich: I'm currently working on editing an interview I did with this gentleman, Brian Frankish, who I was talking to for purely selfish reasons, but who happens to have produced a lot of movies in Hollywood, and has an interesting life story. The interview will air on this show, probably later this year. I'm only a 1/3 of the way done with the editing. www.imdb.com...
	10:36pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:34 Cool! Are you gonna pitch him one of your screenplays?
	10:38pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:36 He's largely retired, but he would probably listen if I had something good. But I'm not sure I wanna make movies. Other people do that very well, and I have lots of radio that needs making. But I will write a novel someday.
	10:38pm Arvo Zylo: Field of Dreams... that one was big... Also American Me, not sure what else I have seen at a glance. Incidentally, I saw a sneak preview of "Fly Me To The Moon" yesterday. The moon landing shenanigans... not bad. Kevin Costner's new cowboy thing is just a pilot, will be four movies apparently. Already filming part 3.
	10:39pm Austin Rich: I was curious about "Fly Me To The Moon." I love all things moon-related, and I'm a NASA nerd, for sure.
	10:39pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:38 I want to write some pilots and a novel some day, among other things. I know how it goes.
	10:40pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:39 It's not quite out yet, I enjoyed it. It was well-written. I don't know the truth, but it's a funny story.
	10:41pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:40 Sometimes the truth is boring. My Grandmother worked for Boeing, and actually was part of the team that built one of the Lunar Rovers, that Boeing made for NASA. It's the most famous thing that anyone in our family has done, and it left an impact on me.
	10:43pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:41 That's pretty cool. I don't care much for astronomy, but I do find the moon fascinating. That dust can reflect so much light, for example, is fascinating. It seems like a big asteroid, but apparently it's not.
	10:45pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:43 It really seems to be so personal, and impacts us so much, and yet, everyone on Earth gets to experience it.
	10:48pm Heather: Awesome show, Arvo and Austin! Thanks for a lovely evening of listening! Good night!
	10:49pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Heather @10:48 Thanks Heather! Sleep well!
	10:49pm Austin Rich: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" While I do think the circumstances of the recording of these loops is interesting, I think that is often the thing people lead with when they talk about these recordings, and not the thing that I always wanted to know: are they good? Fortunately they are, and I do enjoy listening to them. I wish people would focus on the sound more.
	10:51pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @10:49 Basinski gets to play decent sized music fests now. Not sure how much he would have if it weren't for this release, it really did get a lot of press. I think he is pretty excellent at ambient work, but haven't seen him live to know what it is he does that would have him share a bill with metal bands and such.
	10:52pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @10:51 Meanwhile, I used to see people who would play stuff as good as this - maybe even better? - who were playing to 12 people, and who gave away cdrs for free. The music world is completely structured wrong, from top to bottom.
	10:53pm coelacanth∅))): Thank you Arvo! Thank you Rich!
	10:53pm Mr Fab: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" This music (plus the accompanying video) is the only great art to have come out of Sept 11.
	10:53pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ coelacanth∅))) @10:53 Thank you!
	10:53pm laurapanic: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" I thought I recognised this.....its on a playlist a friend made me. I love it.
	10:54pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @10:53 I think They Might Be Giants released an album that day. As you can imagine: their worst selling record, yet.
	10:54pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @10:53 I've not seen the video...I'll track it down now.
	10:58pm Austin Rich: I've been thinking I need to incorporate more videos and projections into my shows. For better or for worse, I look like a knob-twiddler when I play, and I mostly just dance behind my table while I'm playing. I think some visuals would help improve that show. Or maybe I need hired dancers?
	10:58pm Mr. X: Thanks for the stereogram, Arvo! Keep 'em coming! And thanks for making it all happen, Austin!
	10:59pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @10:58 Thank you, Mr. X. (And everyone else, listening and lurking. You always make my Tuesdays.)
	11:00pm coelacanth∅))): i have the disintegration loops in several bedtime playlists, and other Basinski pieces...listening to him going back to ~2011, when i discovered bandcamp. ...i never knew it had something to do with the world trade center bombing.
	11:00pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @10:58 Thanks for sticking around! I was going to talk about the insect songs! There is Insect Deli, Earwig Spectre, Irene Moon (of course), Bumblebee Unlimited, etc.
	11:02pm Arvo Zylo: Stomping The Bug by Fats Waller, from Eraserhead soundtrack...
	11:02pm Austin Rich: So, we have 30 minutes more to go! We'll see how long the playlist let's us keep chatting. Sometimes, it shunts the chat to the bottom of the page. You can still comment, but it is less elegant than this format. Hang in, there, if that's your style. I'll be around...
	11:02pm Mr. X: ↳ Austin Rich @10:58 I think you can do things with lighting and shadows to make knob twiddling more interesting and artsy. The lighting at that Funagain Games show you played at was special in that way.
	11:03pm laurapanic: oooh lets push the boundaries of the Jungle room!!!
	11:03pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:02 Certainly more possible at some shows than others. I would love to be able to play regular again. I miss that.
	11:03pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:00 The next one is going to be bands with amphibians and reptiles in their name.
	11:03pm Arvo Zylo: Two bug related songs on the Hairspray soundtrack... www.discogs.com...
	11:05pm Arvo Zylo: Amphibious Gestures! www.discogs.com...
	11:06pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:03 I just watched Hairspray with my partner the other day. That soundtrack is so excellent. She says she saw it as a youth, and watched that and Dune over and over again in High School.
	11:06pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:05 Looks like they played at Norcal Noisefest.
	11:07pm Arvo Zylo: I recently did a set with Colonel Claypool and The Frog Brigade, and also a synth project called "Frog Concert" frogconcert.bandcamp.com...
	11:07pm Austin Rich: Unless someone else starts up a new version of NorCal NoiseFest, the show is now retired. October will be much more quiet.
	11:09pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:06 I loved Hairspray as a kid. Dune I have still yet to see. Outside of The Thing and Alien, not a lot of sci-fi inspires me, sadly. I did like first generation Star Trek as a kid, simply because it was what was on after TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE...
	11:10pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @11:06 Skozey Fetisch is a great project that A. Gestures is a member of, may be defunct, highly recommended.
	11:10pm laurapanic: here in Australia we had the amazing What Is Music? festival. I think Oren Ambarchi started it. He is our main export in the noise/ambient world. And Lucas Abela, who is touring your parts very soon. www.australianmusiccentre.com.au...
	11:10pm Austin Rich: The Thing is so excellent, and Alien is great. Those are hard to top. I'm a sucker for almost anything set in space. I was excited to talk to Brian because he produced "The Last Starfighter," which I adored as a lad.
	11:11pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:10 I have seen both Lucas Abela (as Justice Yeldham) and Oren Ambarchi (play to fifty people)!
	11:11pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:10 Oh, yeah. Justice has been through before. I know a lot of folks who went to that one.
	11:12pm laurapanic: His tour: 030724 New York @ Union Pool @union_pool @endetymes 050724 Philadelphia @ the Rotunda @the_rotunda_philly 060724 Richmond @ The Wharehouse 070724 Raleigh @ Ruby Deluxe @rubydeluxeraleigh 080724 Charlotte @themilestoneclub 090724 Asheville @ Static Age Records @static_age_record_store 100724 Atlanta @ Mom Said Its Fine @momsaiditsfine @faceofknivesproductions 110724 Chattanooga @ Sluggos @sluggosnorth @chattanooga_noise_night 120724 Nashville @ Disctrix 130724 Louisville @ Cave Valley Kava @cavevalleykava 140724 St. Louis @ William A. Kerr Foundation 150724 Kansas City @ Farewell @farewellkcmo 160724 Omaha @reverb_lounge @blackheartbook 170724 Iowa City @ Trumpet Blossom Café @trumpetblossom @feed_me_weird_things_iowa_city 180724 Minneapolis @ Artery @thearterympls 190724 Rock Island @ Rozz Tox @rozztox289 200724 Chicago @ Digital Art Demo Space @dadschicago 210724 Indianapolis @ Healer DIY @healerdiy 220724 Cincinnati @ COMET @cometbar 230724 Detroit @ TYMPANUM @mikecollino 240724 Toronto @seescapeto @burndownthecapital 250724 Rochester @ The Psychic Garden @the_psychic_garden 260724 Akron @ Cave @caveakron 270724 Columbus @ Cafe Bourbon St @cafebourbonstreet 280724 Pittsburgh @ Sprezzaturapgh @sprezzaturapgh 290724 Baltimore @ Red Room @highzerofoundation
	11:13pm Austin Rich: Nothing near the Mid-Valley, but that's okay. Next time.
	11:13pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:10 I remember enjoying The Abyss as a kid... www.imdb.com...
	11:13pm laurapanic: I've seen both, many times, since the 90s. They were in the same city as me, so I went to many things.
	11:14pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:13 I remember that one being pretty good. Been ages since I saw it.
	11:14pm Arvo Zylo: I also thought Dark Star was funny as a kid. www.imdb.com...
	11:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:13 A nearby city is having an experimental fest at the end of the month, that I will attend. (I might get to play a set! Fingers crossed.) Looking forward to seeing what the kids are doing now.
	11:15pm Arvo Zylo: I recently saw a space movie where Russians and Americans are on the same spaceship, and they are tricked into killing eachother... forgot the name of it. It was interesting, kinda slow in pace.
	11:15pm Mr Fab: ↳ laurapanic @11:12 Does he still smush broken glass on his face?
	11:15pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:14 That movie rules! It's like "what if Alien was funny?"
	11:15pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:14 Dark Star ranks high on my list. I love the use of muffin tins as robot parts.
	11:16pm laurapanic: ↳ Mr Fab @11:15 yes he does and I think some of those shows say they will feature that feat... I think....
	11:16pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @11:15 O'Bannon, who write Dark Star, also wrote Return of the Living Dead, which is my favorite horror movie (at least in terms of horror movies that aren't scary).
	11:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ laurapanic @11:16 He did that on the last tour. I am always blown away he does that.
	11:17pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:16 Return of The Living Dead is one of my favorite movies. It's great!
	11:17pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ laurapanic @11:16 My mind was pretty much blown, I'm pretty sure Lucas Abela was the one who designed a race course made out of vinyl records, and remote control cars rigged with turntable needles, so this racetrack was an insane noise installation, so fucking cool.
	11:18pm Mr. X: ↳ Song: "dlp 3 (excerpt)" by "William Basinski" So I gather the disintigration was caused by ash particles and crap sticking to the tape and tape head and eroding it?
	11:19pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Mr. X @11:18 I don't know, but I did not mean for Austin to stay up all night with this track! Sorry Austin! Thanks Austin!
	11:19pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr. X @11:18 Yeah, they were old tapes so he was recording them to preserve them, but they were literally falling apart in the process.
	11:20pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr. X @11:18 There's a little more information here: en.wikipedia.org...
	11:20pm laurapanic: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:17 I gthnk it was him yeh
	11:21pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:19 The sun hasn't even gone down yet. It's early!
	11:21pm Mr Fab: ↳ Mr Fab @11:19 This process was happening as he watched the 9/11 smoke from Manhattan from his Brooklyn home, with a video camera rolling.
	11:22pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:21 Definitely! I like to go to sleep around sunrise. I have an opaque black canopy bed in lieu of blackout curtains. Couldn't afford a proper custom-made coffin.
	11:23pm Austin Rich: If Lucas can tour the US so easily, I wonder what it would cost to tour Australia? I've never been. Would be a fun vacation.
	11:23pm Mr. X: ↳ Mr Fab @11:21 I see, the tapes were falling apart anyway. Probably indoors, unaffected by ash and fallout.
	11:24pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:23 I saw he had gofundme or kickstarter to fund his tour at one point.
	11:24pm Mr Fab: I must admit I know nothing else about Basinski. Most people don’t, I imagine. It may be great! But this piece is so massive he is kinda a one-hit-wonder of the avant-garde world.
	11:24pm Austin Rich: This part at the end, where it is sounding very mangled, is when it gets very good to my ears.
	11:24pm Arvo Zylo: ↳ Austin Rich @11:23 I think the hard part is getting booked.
	11:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:24 As usual.
	11:25pm Austin Rich: ↳ Mr Fab @11:24 A lot of artists suffer in that way. If they are lucky to get remembered for ONE thing, that's sort of amazing.
	11:25pm Arvo Zylo: Being that I have recently listened to the Melvins after about a ten year break, I am thinking of Amphetamine Reptile label... www.discogs.com... (If Mr. X is still awake)
	11:26pm Austin Rich: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:25 That label put out a lot of great stuff.
	11:26pm Arvo Zylo: And of course The Frogs, Clarence Frogman Henry, and so many artists who use field recordings of frogs, particularly dave phillips...
	11:27pm Austin Rich: Thanks again everyone for joining us on this musical journey! Always fun to hang out with my digital crew.
	11:28pm Mr. X: ↳ Arvo Zylo @11:25 Slowly disintegrating here.
	11:28pm Arvo Zylo: 🤠🤠🤠
	11:28pm coelacanth∅))): Lovely Thanks again
	11:29pm Mr Fab: Thanx all for the awesome-ness!
	11:30pm Arvo Zylo: Thanks again!~!~

Mid-Valley Mutations with Austin Rich: Playlist from July 2, 2024

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