WFMU: It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from April 10, 2023

Listener comments!
	7:00pm luka: prog music please! i’m fed up with the tawk.
	7:00pm ultradamno: Dave! Mandlotrons!
	🤯 7:01pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Dave Mandl and all!!!
	7:01pm dale: hey now mandlorians.
	🤯 7:01pm Carmichael: OK, prog me!
	7:02pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ dale @7:01 For the win!
	7:02pm listener phat in Lincoln: Boo
	7:02pm Handy Haversack: It's go time! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
	7:02pm mic_a: Hallooo Dave & progmatists!
	7:02pm dale: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:02 i riffed off mandlotrons...
	7:02pm Ciggy: Prog me on, dead man...
	🤯 7:03pm HollyRT: hey hey hey
	🤯 7:03pm chresti: Hi Dave complicated show!
	7:03pm Dean: Did Hall & Oates do it? Did any solo artists decide to abandon their old routines to put out a solo album?
	7:03pm ultradamno: ↳ listener phat in Lincoln @7:02 uuuuurrrrrrrrnnnnnnssss!
	7:03pm bleubombersune: Good Monday Evening Dave
	7:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Dave & proglicates!
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Prawgdl Menz ! Women & Nonidentifierz.
	7:04pm joe mulligan: I still have the Peter Criss solo LP from the 70s. not sure about the poster tho!
	7:04pm Dean: Roger Dean's cover for Patto's Hold Your Fire is not at all in character. Banco!
	7:05pm dale: moodies weren't spoiled rich kids. they did the solo stuff after the core seven and had some dough. blue jays album was probably the only one that charted. but evan funk davies played some graham edge band with the gurvitz brothers whiche tickled me to no end.
	7:05pm Dean: The big guy, the lead singer, died some years ago, alas.
	7:05pm mic_a: Alan White's solo album was a lot of fun. More R&B element than you might expect. My favorite of the batch.
	7:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it's the only thing TheBeatles have done @ all since about this day in 1970 as it happens...
	🤯 7:05pm Carmichael: I saw the Ace Frehley solo LP in a used record store a while back. There were about 20 copies @ $1.00 each.
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: Evening, all. Thanks for joinig the fun.
	7:05pm Dean: Edge with Gurvitzes was nice. As was Baker Gurvitz Army.
	7:06pm luka: the Ace and Paul solo albums whip
	7:06pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "The Nature of the Sea" by "Steve Howe" Oh boy. Progs greatest guitarist
	7:06pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ ultradamno @7:03 Lol
	7:06pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:05 Just joking. Don't take it too seriously. But it did seem like a big ego thing to have everyone do their own album, and it was definitely a trend.
	7:07pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "The Nature of the Sea" by "Steve Howe" So far, so good
	7:07pm dale: annie haslam's annie in wonderland, all produced and a lot of the instruments by roy wood is pretty crappy though.
	7:07pm listener phat in Lincoln: I love this show
	7:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sun in Aries, Year of Fire Boar Stephen James Howe Born: April 8, 1947, Holloway, London, England
	🤯 7:07pm SeaCreature: Hi folks. Totally convinced there’s a lost great Yes record if you cobble together the solo albums and have Jon overdub lead fox.
	7:07pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:07 Haven't that (Annie Haslam/Roy Wood) in forever. Was it really that bad?
	7:07pm Mattynotimes: I was perfectly high enough for this song to come on
	7:08pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:06 yeah, agreed. and all the live double albums released back then too. definitely a trend.
	7:08pm Dave Mandl: ↳ listener phat in Lincoln @7:07 This is the show that loves you back.
	🤯 7:08pm Carmichael: Oh, Dennis DeYoung solo LP also. Filed under "Please Buy Me."
	7:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ' If you want to know what TheBeatles would sound like now - just play our Solo records together.' - Lennon in early 70s
	7:08pm mic_a: I thought the solo albums trend was perhaps band members getting tired of fighting over the group albums and wanting a solo 'vacation' that year.
	7:08pm Dean: The first Annie Haslam solo album wasn't that bad. Had a nice cover of the Dvorak melody popularized as "Going Home."
	7:09pm mistrrcaz: good evening
	🤯 7:09pm SeaCreature: Effing autocorrect. Lead vox
	7:09pm Jackie G: ↳ dale @7:07 She sang a Dylan song with Howe; It's All Over Now Baby Blue
	7:09pm Chris Hiatt: Did ELP do something where the members each did a side? Does that fit into the trend Dave Mandl speaks of?
	7:09pm joe mulligan: ↳ Carmichael @7:05 totally makes sense. I heard Ace has a house a little upstate near the catskills
	7:09pm listener phat in Lincoln: Perfect lead in to the Monday edition of my nightly guitar/bass practice regimen. Although, if I happen to write a magnum prog opus, it'll be your fault.
	7:09pm Mattynotimes: I remember when I got introduced to Yes. Really blew my prog world right open
	7:09pm dale: ↳ Dean @7:05 production was over the top, nashville strings...some really good music. baker gurvitz army's 'inside of me' is a fantastic song.
	🤯 7:09pm drumbone: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 hey, how ya doin
	7:09pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 They may have! I should remember, but I'm not sure.
	7:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Conversely - there's like Traffic where a Solo album just takes more members on board til it's a Band album.
	7:10pm luka: ↳ mic_a @7:08 i always just thought it was a faster way to fulfill contract obligations re: output
	7:10pm Dean: I remember when this Banco album came out. It struck me as almost a bit like Lamb Lies Down... As If in a Last Supper, story about ... Easter!
	7:10pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ drumbone @7:09 hey, how ya doin
	7:10pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Mattynotimes @7:09 My first three concerts were Jethro Tull, Yes, and Rush, in rapid succession.
	🤯 7:10pm Carmichael: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:09 I believe that was one of the Works collections. Volume 2, perhaps?
	7:10pm luka: ↳ Carmichael @7:08 no Styx slander, please.
	7:11pm Mattynotimes: That would be a good show. Band albums influenced by band members solo albums after a hit band record
	7:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 Floyd's 'Ummagumma' did something like that.
	7:11pm mic_a: @Luka -- Yeah, that too. The live doubles probably fit into that as well.
	🤯 7:11pm SeaCreature: Love the continental European prog schooling, Dave.
	🤯 7:11pm Carmichael: ↳ luka @7:10 Ha ha, easy now ...
	7:11pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:07 i hated it and this haven't listened to it since it came out. i still have it and may need to hear it again now. it's only been 40 some years.
	7:11pm Dean: I still hear the echoes of Lamb...
	🤯 7:11pm Stephen from Glasgow: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 I think that was Works Volume 1.
	7:11pm luka: IL RAGNO is my jam
	7:12pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:11 Oh yeah!
	7:12pm ultradamno: Does Minutemen's Double Nickles qualify?
	7:12pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @7:12 I mean, it's not solo work, but there's D side, a Watt side and a Hurley side
	7:12pm Mattynotimes: I hear Lamb all over it. How could you not though. I feel like they go hand in hand almost
	7:13pm neil quarantino: ↳ joe mulligan @7:09 Ace has a house in Sussex County (NJ)
	7:13pm Coach32sm: Pouring where I am, great music for that. Progtronics
	7:13pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Il Ragno" by "Banco del Mutuo Soccorso" This is fantastic. Extravagant.
	7:13pm pot8o: hi everyone!
	7:13pm PaulRobeson1923: Henry Lamb was an honour student
	7:14pm Dean: Not long before Le Orme had that outlier album about Los Angeles, Smogmagica. A little more pop than one would expect from them.
	7:14pm Mattynotimes: The bank that gives back
	7:14pm common: dave. all. prog.
	7:14pm dday: Bodast : www.youtube.com...
	7:15pm Jackie G: Steve Howe and Annie Haslam play Yes' Turn of the Century on the wonderful album Tales From Yesterday.
	7:15pm Handy Haversack: I'm afraid I have to take off. First softball game of the year. We'll see if we survive. Thanks, Dave! Later on, all.
	7:15pm P-90: Let’s not forget: these solo albums came to be more at the whims of record companies, agents, managers looking to create new revenue streams from “name” artists, than from the “egos” of musicians.
	7:15pm listener phat in Lincoln: Oh damn. I should probably get that book.
	7:15pm Dean: Oh, yes, Bailey's book is marvelous. Howe kept prog grounded in Blues.
	7:16pm ?: Keith Levene, guiarist from PiL, was a roadie for Yes and took lessons from Steve Howe. "Poptones" features the riff from "Starship Trooper".
	7:16pm Mattynotimes: Steve Howe is awesome
	7:16pm Dean: I love Allan Holdsworth, but Howe is in many ways the anti-Holdsworth.
	7:16pm dale: heard ashes are burning a couple of days ago. some great movements in it.
	7:17pm mic_a: Second or thirding on the Bailey book.
	🤯 7:18pm Carmichael: ↳ Carmichael @7:10 Check that, it was Vol. 1
	🤯 7:18pm SeaCreature: Howe seems to have crashed the late-model Yes into the ground.
	🤯 7:18pm chris in the redwoods: hey, Dave and Prognosticators! Bent Knee are great! yay!
	🤯 7:18pm Stephen from Glasgow: Steve turned 76 recently. Still keeping Yes on the go.
	7:18pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: Good evening Dave and everyone.
	7:19pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ chris in the redwoods @7:18 Proctologists!
	7:19pm P-90: Now I have to catch up with Bailey’s book. (And obviously not just because he takes a paragraph or two to discuss Howe.)
	7:19pm ultradamno: Which reminds, though wildly off topic, Mad Mag cartoonist Al Jaffee died today.
	7:19pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Dean @7:16 Howe is less mechanical in style. Graceful and soulful. I like Allan Holdsworth too, but it's a little too perfect sometimes.
	7:19pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:06 I'd appreciate your thoughts on Pink Floyd's Ummagumma. One disc live; the other one a series of solo pieces by the members.
	🤯 7:20pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @7:19 your Prognosis is great, Paul!
	7:20pm mic_a: Howe had an aggression in his picking technique that was much nastier than the usual virtuoso.
	7:20pm dale: i think you should play some blackmore's night now - you opened the door.
	7:20pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ chris in the redwoods @7:20 Oh, Thank you! Thank you
	7:21pm Dean: That's my take, too, on Holdsworth. My favorite is probably his period with Soft Machine. RIP, Al Jaffee. Damn.
	7:21pm common: ↳ ultradamno @7:19 just heard that. big fan.
	7:21pm mic_a: Al Jaffee? Oh, gosh.
	🤯 7:21pm SeaCreature: Otoh love Howe packing chuck berry into the proggies
	7:22pm Dean: "Starship Trooper" on Yessongs...good god, can it get any better?
	7:22pm ultradamno: He predicted AI art twitter.com...
	🤯 7:22pm TroyD8: ↳ ultradamno @7:19 Damn! Al was a childhood hero to many of us doodlers.
	🤯 7:23pm HollyRT: ↳ ultradamno @7:19 I was about to post that. He was 102!! Legend
	7:23pm ?: These guys do a PERFECT cover of "Close to the Edge". Jon Anderson actually saw this and called the bass player. They're going to be his backing band on his upcoming tour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-x1VbHRFg
	7:23pm mic_a: If you can find a copy of Fantagraphic's reprint of "Humbug" magazine (that doesn't cost you a fortune), Al did a lot of fantastic work in that period.
	7:23pm Juli: That ruled
	7:23pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Sunshine" by "Bent Knee" That was something
	7:24pm Jackie G: ↳ Dean @7:22 Yeah, it's spellbinding
	7:24pm dday: ↳ dale @7:20 Willie Nile's drummer (American Ride period) Alex Alexander, played for Richie in that band for two years 98-00. He told me Blackmore's a lot funnier guy than most would think.
	🤯 7:25pm TroyD8: My Pal the Tortoise is my fav TFUL282 track.
	7:25pm dale: ↳ dday @7:24 i like that music. 180 degree turn from deep purple. which i also like.
	🤯 7:25pm G: Late again. Too much stuff going on over here. Will listen to the first half on archive.
	7:26pm Lisa H: This is the spitting prog image of a tune often sung during Yom Kippur services.
	7:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Booth Delirium" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local ... Time Signature ?
	7:26pm common: i member this band
	7:26pm Noel: I used to play My Pat the Tortoise on WUAG in 1995.
	7:26pm dday: I heard that an ELP tribute band called Manticore is playing at The Linda sometime in April. Never heard them, too far for me to travel
	7:27pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:26 Sorry, wasn't paying attention to that (for a change).
	7:27pm Juli: Oh boy....
	7:27pm Noel: Pal
	7:27pm Mattynotimes: If you haven’t listened to the prog punk band Gospel you should go check it out. Long Island band of 4 amazing musicians and maybe the best drummer I’ve ever seen
	7:27pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Squidder Boy" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" Well damn. It's been awhile.
	🤯 7:27pm TroyD8: ↳ Noel @7:26 I used to play it on KSVR in the 90's too :)
	7:27pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Sunshine" by "Bent Knee" OK. This is awesome. Have you ever heard XM-3a? Kind of on the metal side, but this show worthy...I only know of two tracks newheavysounds.bandcamp.com... blackmothband.bandcamp.com... Saw, TFUL 282 open for Sun City Girls in Chicago back in the day. Great, great band. The name did confuse people
	7:28pm Dean: Henry Cow/King Crimson/Captain Beefheart...
	7:28pm P-90: Paging Capt. Beefheart
	7:29pm Coach32sm: Or Tom Waits
	7:29pm Jackie G: ↳ Stephen from Glasgow @7:18 Yes in name only. They kinda suck
	7:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ZoogzRift
	7:30pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Squidder Boy" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" These guys were in heavy rotation within my college crew.
	7:30pm Dean: Dzyan! Damn, gotta take my daughter to soccer. Dig them.
	7:30pm mic_a: Prozzusion!
	7:30pm dday: ↳ Song: "Squidder Boy" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" Sounded like it could've come out of a Spongebob episode
	7:31pm dale: hoping to hear novalis sometime, some more german prog.
	7:31pm ultradamno: But no band name is worse than Japanese noise rock band Captain Condoms.
	7:31pm joe mulligan: ↳ P-90 @7:28 yes! also the adjacent band Caroliner Rainbow takes on Capt Beefheart too, confirming the influence.
	7:31pm Bob O: I saw TFLU 282 in the 1990s in San Francisco. They were really good. As awkward as their moniker may be, I'm pretty sure that's what made me check them out. They encored with Green-Eyed Lady, by Sugarloaf. I heard here on FMU that they have a really good Box Set out.
	7:32pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:31 Yes, there will be Novalis at some point. Have I played them already? Can't remember.
	7:32pm joe mulligan: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:29 ah yes, old Zoogz! "Art band.. more like a fart band!"
	7:32pm Dave Mandl: ↳ ultradamno @7:31 Agreed, Captain Condoms is pretty bad.
	7:32pm ultradamno: Zoogz was a New Wave Theater highlight What is the meaning of life? Dada DA da da Da
	7:33pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:32 haven't heard any yet. but my wife talks over this show so it's hard to tell.
	7:33pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Mattynotimes @7:27 I will check them out. Thanks!
	7:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ dday @7:30 Point.
	🤯 7:34pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:18 When Anderson didn't want to tour or do an album of new material in the late 00s, they dumped him and hired soundalike vocalists (two so far). Howe won't let him back in, because it's become Howe's band now, especially since Squire and White died. Howe is a bossy guy; see his recent memoir _All My Yesterdays_.
	7:34pm joe mulligan: ↳ Bob O @7:31 good show, saw them in the mid 90s in Philly at the Khyber Pass. cool peeps. they were elevating the SF freak scene
	7:34pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:33 Infidel!
	🤯 7:34pm chresti: ↳ dale @7:33 My partner does that too, so I plug in my earbuddies
	7:34pm Juli: For Earthly Thinking::: Present moment is this for me: www.instagram.com...
	7:34pm Juli: I really love love this show
	7:34pm laurapanic: plink plink plink blerggh
	7:35pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Juli @7:34 Thanks, Juli. It loves you right back.
	7:35pm dday: I've been immersed in Nick Cave world from The Boys Next Door thru to his latest with just him & Warren Ellis. Prog is sounding very civilized compared to most of that.
	7:35pm dale: ↳ chresti @7:34 gonna try that. don't even need sound on.
	🤯 7:36pm G: ↳ Dean @7:22 Howe changes that end solo in _Starship Trooper_ every tour (see official live releases and many bootlegs). Always interesting to see his new takes on it.
	7:36pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:20 Which Blackmore would you recommend? I'm not that up on his solo stuff.
	🤯 7:36pm chresti: ↳ dale @7:35 He doesn't seem to notice, I just smile and nod
	7:37pm ultradamno: ↳ dday @7:35 Seem like some of his Grinderman stuff might fit on this show...there was even a Fripp cameo on one
	7:37pm Jackie G: ↳ G @7:34 Thought Jon Anderson got sick, had to cancel tour. Howe, Squire didn't wait for him to recover. Then they took on these Jon Anderson wannabes. The singer in Yes now is awful.
	7:37pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:36 i'd have to go to youtube to listen to some things. i'm not superfamiliar, just know i like it when it's in a shuffle.
	🤯 7:38pm Stephen from Glasgow: ↳ Jackie G @7:29 I try and stay out of all of the Yes arguments. I still enjoy the current lineup and I'm glad they exist.
	🤯 7:38pm SeaCreature: ↳ G @7:34 After many years, I was curious and went back for that first tour without Anderson, went back a couple more times to diminishing returns. Not sure Alan White managed enough energy to hit the snare drum last time and the tempos were slow-mo
	7:38pm Juli: Ohhhhhhh I like where this went. Lol indeed.
	7:40pm Coach32sm: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:36 Blackmore's Rainbow stuff was mostly good. Long Live Rock and Roll cover looks like Tull's Stand Up
	7:40pm Jeremy: Thinking Fellers shoulda been contenders. One of the best live bands I ever saw.
	7:40pm dale: ...i would hate to recommend something that is more renaissance faire than prog.
	7:40pm Jackie G: ↳ Stephen from Glasgow @7:38 Well, Yes is like Geronimo and the Apaches, their time has come to an end. Sadly
	🤯 7:40pm G: ↳ Jackie G @7:37 Yes, Anderson developed lung issues, maybe MJ-use related. But once he was out and they were paying sideman prices rather than a large cut to Anderson, Howe consistently says in interviews for years now that Anderson is never coming back, though Anderson always says he would consider coming back. Maybe an extra-income issue, there, for Howe.
	🤯 7:41pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:38 White had back problems for years, before the end.
	7:41pm dday: ↳ ultradamno @7:37 Possible for sure. I'm about mid way through his catalog. Once I hit the end (Carnage the new one) Then I'll hit the Grinderman stuff
	7:41pm Juli: Don Cab!
	7:41pm ?: Jon Anderson and Sherman Hemsley were going to record an album about the magical properties of the number 8. Hemsley was a huge prog fan. There's an episode of the Jeffersons where he is dancing to Nektar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIcbXOnvnQY
	7:42pm ultradamno: A band name that has you telling on yourself if you take offense.
	7:42pm Juli: You, Slut!
	7:42pm lazy pierogi: but why no Don Caballero!!
	7:43pm ?: This has to be one of the wildest rock anecdotes. Sherman Hemsley and Daevid Allen: https://magnetmagazine.com/2009/03/05/george-jefferson-worlds-biggest-gong-fan/
	7:43pm Juli: ↳ ultradamno @7:42 I took this as a compliment lol
	7:43pm dale: this is a toe tapper!
	🤯 7:43pm TroyD8: Dave have you played any Isotope?
	🤯 7:43pm SeaCreature: ↳ G @7:41 I get that yeah, but when I’m having a train station convo with other folks who left before the encore, says it all.
	🤯 7:44pm chresti: ↳ Juli @7:42 Oh yeah? Well you medium bastard!
	7:44pm Dave Mandl: ↳ TroyD8 @7:43 I don't think I know them. I'll check them out, thanks.
	🤯 7:44pm drumbone: Great show, Dave!
	7:44pm Juli: ↳ chresti @7:44 I am a ghost medium!
	7:45pm slugluv1313: greetings, Dave! Complications! been listening while in lurk-and-wurk mode, totally loving Thee PROG!
	7:45pm ultradamno: A medium bastard is fine, but I prefer flamin' hot.
	7:45pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Magnifiererer" by "You Slut!" Loving this!
	7:45pm lazy pierogi: oops
	7:46pm dday: Transatlantic anyone ? : www.youtube.com...
	7:46pm common: don cab! used to tour with these weirdos
	🤯 7:46pm chresti: ↳ ultradamno @7:45 Or well done?
	7:47pm dday: ↳ Song: "Slice Where You Live Like Pie" by "Don Caballero" Slice? Pie? yes please , I'll take blueberry :)
	🤯 7:48pm TroyD8: ↳ dday @7:47 Now I want pie!
	7:48pm dday: It's just about time for Strawberry Rhubarb. I had rhubarb in my back yard years ago.
	7:49pm joe mulligan: ↳ common @7:46 his powell peralta skateboard model deck was iconic. I built together a bunch of those outta my first job at a bike/skate shop in the mid 80s
	🤯 7:49pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ dday @7:48 just like my Ma used to make! yum!
	7:49pm common: ↳ joe mulligan @7:49 crazy!
	7:49pm Juli: I have a ton of fruit and coconut milk yogurt!! Healthier than a pi
	7:50pm Dean: Upthread there, the shout-out to Isotope...seconded! Such a marvelous group, with and without Hopper. And Gary Boyle solo is sweet, too.
	7:50pm PaulRobeson1923: Rectum!
	7:50pm laurapanic: math rock is prog
	7:50pm bobobob plasticland: I thought Don Caballero were from the Midwest but i. could be wrong
	7:50pm lazy pierogi: ↳ joe mulligan @7:49 i think you're thinking of steve caballero?
	7:50pm Dean: Saw the Champs at a house in Oakland, killer.
	7:50pm common: ↳ bobobob plasticland @7:50 pittsburgh
	7:50pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "Slice Where You Live Like Pie" by "Don Caballero" Making me happy in a prog sort of way.
	7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Slice Where You Live Like Pie" by "Don Caballero" Drums a bit he does.
	🤯 7:51pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:43 Unfortunately, I think Howe is making a retirement-plan and Howe-control decision there, not a best-show decision. Maybe he will relent at some point and Anderson will come back. But there's not a huge amount of time left.
	🤯 7:51pm SeaCreature: Still not sure what math rock is.
	7:51pm common: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:51 best drummer i ever saw
	7:51pm Dean: And Ruins at the late Hemlock Tavern. Fuck, yeah. And Melt Banana at Al's Bar.
	7:52pm common: dave. sctv stuff is true
	7:53pm Juli: ↳ Dean @7:51 Ruins!
	7:53pm ultradamno: Love Ruins..."Cambodia" is one the most jaw dropping recordings in the history of recordings (Melt Banana is cool too)
	🤯 7:53pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:51 Check out the wiki article on math rock for some basic ideas: "Math rock is a style of progressive and indie rock with roots in bands such as King Crimson and Rush as well as 20th-century minimal music composers such as Steve Reich. It is characterized by complex, atypical rhythmic structures (including irregular stopping and starting), counterpoint, odd time signatures, and extended chords. It bears similarities to post-rock."
	7:53pm dday: Zappas favorite TV charcater was Count Floyd on SCTV (Joe Flaherty). He loved the absurdity of the bits
	7:53pm Juli: Thanks friends! Ty Dave Mandl the DJ !!!!
	7:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ common @7:51 This fellow ? : en.wikipedia.org...
	7:53pm slugluv1313: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 YES! "Works Volume 1"
	7:53pm Dean: Love Supersister. We need a taste of Secret Oyster and Release Music Orchestra, my perennial requests.
	7:54pm ultradamno: I like algebra country & western
	🤯 7:54pm HollyRT: Oh yeah! I love these guys!
	7:54pm Listener Robert: ↳ common @7:52 I thought SM Ken looked like SM Moe Green (Harold Ramis). Ramis played the character of Moe Green before SCTV, though.
	7:54pm pot8o: thanks Dave! have a great week everyone!
	7:54pm laurapanic: ↳ G @7:53 thats not bad....
	7:54pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Dean @7:53 Oh sorry, I'll try to get to those at some point.
	7:54pm common: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:53 yep. insane!
	🤯 7:54pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Babylon" by "Supersister" Reminds me of CAN
	7:54pm Karl Ward: ↳ Song: "Babylon" by "Supersister" This here is a bass tone I can get behind
	7:55pm pp: last I checked Joe Belock used a pic of Rocco as his Twitter handle, another low rent character Joe Flaherty played on SCTV.
	7:55pm mistrrcaz: wow! Guy Caballero was a great character in sctv. Classic show too.
	🤯 7:55pm chresti: ↳ chresti @7:54 The drum+bass part
	7:55pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Karl Ward @7:54 This bass player agrees.
	🤯 7:55pm TroyD8: ↳ chresti @7:54 That's what my wife just yelled from the other room.
	7:55pm Destroit: Thanks Dave!
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ chresti @7:54 Can okay. Was thinking Crimson.
	7:56pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Babylon" by "Supersister" The horn heavy vibe is cool. Some nice playing going on!
	🤯 7:56pm SeaCreature: ↳ G @7:53 Thanks. I’m trying to smoothe out the KC vibe with groove oriented improvs and fewer time changes…
	🤯 7:57pm chresti: ↳ TroyD8 @7:55 Cheers to your wife's ears.
	7:57pm mic_a: Thanks, Dave! Be well, everyone.
	🤯 7:57pm Stephen from Glasgow: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:56 I'm thinking Soft Machine.
	7:57pm Dave Mandl: ↳ HollyRT @7:54 I know they're favorites of yours, Ms. H.
	7:57pm Dean: You're doing just fine, Dave Mandl! I only need to remind myself to remember. Supersister...and I think Banco, too...played in La Habra in the early '00s. La Habra is OC suburbia abutting LA County suburbia.
	7:57pm Jackie G: Thanks, man
	7:58pm Dave Mandl: Thanks as always, everyone. Have a fantastic week.
	🤯 7:58pm TroyD8: Thanks Dave! always a treat!
	🤯 7:58pm chris in the redwoods: thanks, Dave!
	🤯 7:58pm Stephen from Glasgow: Thanks, Dave.
	7:58pm bleubombersune: Dave thank you for the evening of prog All stay safe and be well
	7:58pm dale: thanks dave. good show!
	🤯 7:58pm chresti: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:56 I haven't listened to enough KC to ID an influence.
	7:59pm Chris Hiatt: Another great show. Thanks, Dave Mandl.
	🤯 7:59pm chresti: Thanks Dave!
	7:59pm slugluv1313: ↳ dale @7:20 Blackmore's Night? saw some live clips on youtube -- Blackmore is kinda making goofy jokes at times, which saves it from total Spinal Tap territory
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~
	🤯 8:00pm DjLorraine: Thank you
	🤯 8:00pm HollyRT: Night, Dave!
	8:00pm slugluv1313: thanks for the progeries, Dave!
	8:00pm lazy pierogi: TY DM
	8:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Pictures of a City' by KC maybe here...
	🤯 8:06pm SeaCreature: Another mind expanding show, thanks Dave
	🤯 8:07pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Dave Mandl!!!
	9:56pm Bob O: ↳ @7:23 Thanks!
	10:09pm Bob O: Who remembers the 'Lawsuit Tour' of around 1992 or so ? They Toured with both Classic Yes Members AND most of Trevor Rabin's 90215 guys. Bruford AND White? Fuggedaboudit!!!

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from April 10, 2023

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April 10, 2023

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Yes	Five Percent for Nothing "Five Percent for Nothing" by "Yes"	Fragile	0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Steve Howe	The Nature of the Sea "The Nature of the Sea" by "Steve Howe"	Beginnings	0:03:51 (Pop-up)
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso	Il Ragno	Come in Un'Ultima Cena	0:07:36 (Pop-up)

Bent Knee	Sunshine "Sunshine" by "Bent Knee"	Shiny Eyed Babies	0:16:55 (Pop-up)

Thinking Fellers Union Local 282	Booth Delirium	I Hope It Lands	0:23:10 (Pop-up)
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282	Squidder Boy	Wormed by Leonard	0:24:49 (Pop-up)

Dzyan	For Earthly Thinking "For Earthly Thinking" by "Dzyan"	Electric Silence	0:29:09 (Pop-up)

You Slut!	Magnifiererer "Magnifiererer" by "You Slut!"	Medium Bastard	0:40:35 (Pop-up)
Don Caballero	Slice Where You Live Like Pie	What Burns Never Returns	0:44:18 (Pop-up)

Supersister	Babylon "Babylon" by "Supersister"	Iskander	0:51:51 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	7:00pm luka: prog music please! i’m fed up with the tawk.
	7:00pm ultradamno: Dave! Mandlotrons!
	🤯 7:01pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Dave Mandl and all!!!
	7:01pm dale: hey now mandlorians.
	🤯 7:01pm Carmichael: OK, prog me!
	7:02pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ dale @7:01 For the win!
	7:02pm listener phat in Lincoln: Boo
	7:02pm Handy Haversack: It's go time! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
	7:02pm mic_a: Hallooo Dave & progmatists!
	7:02pm dale: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:02 i riffed off mandlotrons...
	7:02pm Ciggy: Prog me on, dead man...
	🤯 7:03pm HollyRT: hey hey hey
	🤯 7:03pm chresti: Hi Dave complicated show!
	7:03pm Dean: Did Hall & Oates do it? Did any solo artists decide to abandon their old routines to put out a solo album?
	7:03pm ultradamno: ↳ listener phat in Lincoln @7:02 uuuuurrrrrrrrnnnnnnssss!
	7:03pm bleubombersune: Good Monday Evening Dave
	7:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Dave & proglicates!
	7:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Prawgdl Menz ! Women & Nonidentifierz.
	7:04pm joe mulligan: I still have the Peter Criss solo LP from the 70s. not sure about the poster tho!
	7:04pm Dean: Roger Dean's cover for Patto's Hold Your Fire is not at all in character. Banco!
	7:05pm dale: moodies weren't spoiled rich kids. they did the solo stuff after the core seven and had some dough. blue jays album was probably the only one that charted. but evan funk davies played some graham edge band with the gurvitz brothers whiche tickled me to no end.
	7:05pm Dean: The big guy, the lead singer, died some years ago, alas.
	7:05pm mic_a: Alan White's solo album was a lot of fun. More R&B element than you might expect. My favorite of the batch.
	7:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it's the only thing TheBeatles have done @ all since about this day in 1970 as it happens...
	🤯 7:05pm Carmichael: I saw the Ace Frehley solo LP in a used record store a while back. There were about 20 copies @ $1.00 each.
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: Evening, all. Thanks for joinig the fun.
	7:05pm Dean: Edge with Gurvitzes was nice. As was Baker Gurvitz Army.
	7:06pm luka: the Ace and Paul solo albums whip
	7:06pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "The Nature of the Sea" by "Steve Howe" Oh boy. Progs greatest guitarist
	7:06pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ ultradamno @7:03 Lol
	7:06pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:05 Just joking. Don't take it too seriously. But it did seem like a big ego thing to have everyone do their own album, and it was definitely a trend.
	7:07pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "The Nature of the Sea" by "Steve Howe" So far, so good
	7:07pm dale: annie haslam's annie in wonderland, all produced and a lot of the instruments by roy wood is pretty crappy though.
	7:07pm listener phat in Lincoln: I love this show
	7:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sun in Aries, Year of Fire Boar Stephen James Howe Born: April 8, 1947, Holloway, London, England
	🤯 7:07pm SeaCreature: Hi folks. Totally convinced there’s a lost great Yes record if you cobble together the solo albums and have Jon overdub lead fox.
	7:07pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:07 Haven't that (Annie Haslam/Roy Wood) in forever. Was it really that bad?
	7:07pm Mattynotimes: I was perfectly high enough for this song to come on
	7:08pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:06 yeah, agreed. and all the live double albums released back then too. definitely a trend.
	7:08pm Dave Mandl: ↳ listener phat in Lincoln @7:07 This is the show that loves you back.
	🤯 7:08pm Carmichael: Oh, Dennis DeYoung solo LP also. Filed under "Please Buy Me."
	7:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ' If you want to know what TheBeatles would sound like now - just play our Solo records together.' - Lennon in early 70s
	7:08pm mic_a: I thought the solo albums trend was perhaps band members getting tired of fighting over the group albums and wanting a solo 'vacation' that year.
	7:08pm Dean: The first Annie Haslam solo album wasn't that bad. Had a nice cover of the Dvorak melody popularized as "Going Home."
	7:09pm mistrrcaz: good evening
	🤯 7:09pm SeaCreature: Effing autocorrect. Lead vox
	7:09pm Jackie G: ↳ dale @7:07 She sang a Dylan song with Howe; It's All Over Now Baby Blue
	7:09pm Chris Hiatt: Did ELP do something where the members each did a side? Does that fit into the trend Dave Mandl speaks of?
	7:09pm joe mulligan: ↳ Carmichael @7:05 totally makes sense. I heard Ace has a house a little upstate near the catskills
	7:09pm listener phat in Lincoln: Perfect lead in to the Monday edition of my nightly guitar/bass practice regimen. Although, if I happen to write a magnum prog opus, it'll be your fault.
	7:09pm Mattynotimes: I remember when I got introduced to Yes. Really blew my prog world right open
	7:09pm dale: ↳ Dean @7:05 production was over the top, nashville strings...some really good music. baker gurvitz army's 'inside of me' is a fantastic song.
	🤯 7:09pm drumbone: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 hey, how ya doin
	7:09pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 They may have! I should remember, but I'm not sure.
	7:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Conversely - there's like Traffic where a Solo album just takes more members on board til it's a Band album.
	7:10pm luka: ↳ mic_a @7:08 i always just thought it was a faster way to fulfill contract obligations re: output
	7:10pm Dean: I remember when this Banco album came out. It struck me as almost a bit like Lamb Lies Down... As If in a Last Supper, story about ... Easter!
	7:10pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ drumbone @7:09 hey, how ya doin
	7:10pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Mattynotimes @7:09 My first three concerts were Jethro Tull, Yes, and Rush, in rapid succession.
	🤯 7:10pm Carmichael: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:09 I believe that was one of the Works collections. Volume 2, perhaps?
	7:10pm luka: ↳ Carmichael @7:08 no Styx slander, please.
	7:11pm Mattynotimes: That would be a good show. Band albums influenced by band members solo albums after a hit band record
	7:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 Floyd's 'Ummagumma' did something like that.
	7:11pm mic_a: @Luka -- Yeah, that too. The live doubles probably fit into that as well.
	🤯 7:11pm SeaCreature: Love the continental European prog schooling, Dave.
	🤯 7:11pm Carmichael: ↳ luka @7:10 Ha ha, easy now ...
	7:11pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:07 i hated it and this haven't listened to it since it came out. i still have it and may need to hear it again now. it's only been 40 some years.
	7:11pm Dean: I still hear the echoes of Lamb...
	🤯 7:11pm Stephen from Glasgow: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 I think that was Works Volume 1.
	7:11pm luka: IL RAGNO is my jam
	7:12pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:11 Oh yeah!
	7:12pm ultradamno: Does Minutemen's Double Nickles qualify?
	7:12pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @7:12 I mean, it's not solo work, but there's D side, a Watt side and a Hurley side
	7:12pm Mattynotimes: I hear Lamb all over it. How could you not though. I feel like they go hand in hand almost
	7:13pm neil quarantino: ↳ joe mulligan @7:09 Ace has a house in Sussex County (NJ)
	7:13pm Coach32sm: Pouring where I am, great music for that. Progtronics
	7:13pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Il Ragno" by "Banco del Mutuo Soccorso" This is fantastic. Extravagant.
	7:13pm pot8o: hi everyone!
	7:13pm PaulRobeson1923: Henry Lamb was an honour student
	7:14pm Dean: Not long before Le Orme had that outlier album about Los Angeles, Smogmagica. A little more pop than one would expect from them.
	7:14pm Mattynotimes: The bank that gives back
	7:14pm common: dave. all. prog.
	7:14pm dday: Bodast : www.youtube.com...
	7:15pm Jackie G: Steve Howe and Annie Haslam play Yes' Turn of the Century on the wonderful album Tales From Yesterday.
	7:15pm Handy Haversack: I'm afraid I have to take off. First softball game of the year. We'll see if we survive. Thanks, Dave! Later on, all.
	7:15pm P-90: Let’s not forget: these solo albums came to be more at the whims of record companies, agents, managers looking to create new revenue streams from “name” artists, than from the “egos” of musicians.
	7:15pm listener phat in Lincoln: Oh damn. I should probably get that book.
	7:15pm Dean: Oh, yes, Bailey's book is marvelous. Howe kept prog grounded in Blues.
	7:16pm ?: Keith Levene, guiarist from PiL, was a roadie for Yes and took lessons from Steve Howe. "Poptones" features the riff from "Starship Trooper".
	7:16pm Mattynotimes: Steve Howe is awesome
	7:16pm Dean: I love Allan Holdsworth, but Howe is in many ways the anti-Holdsworth.
	7:16pm dale: heard ashes are burning a couple of days ago. some great movements in it.
	7:17pm mic_a: Second or thirding on the Bailey book.
	🤯 7:18pm Carmichael: ↳ Carmichael @7:10 Check that, it was Vol. 1
	🤯 7:18pm SeaCreature: Howe seems to have crashed the late-model Yes into the ground.
	🤯 7:18pm chris in the redwoods: hey, Dave and Prognosticators! Bent Knee are great! yay!
	🤯 7:18pm Stephen from Glasgow: Steve turned 76 recently. Still keeping Yes on the go.
	7:18pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: Good evening Dave and everyone.
	7:19pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ chris in the redwoods @7:18 Proctologists!
	7:19pm P-90: Now I have to catch up with Bailey’s book. (And obviously not just because he takes a paragraph or two to discuss Howe.)
	7:19pm ultradamno: Which reminds, though wildly off topic, Mad Mag cartoonist Al Jaffee died today.
	7:19pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Dean @7:16 Howe is less mechanical in style. Graceful and soulful. I like Allan Holdsworth too, but it's a little too perfect sometimes.
	7:19pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:06 I'd appreciate your thoughts on Pink Floyd's Ummagumma. One disc live; the other one a series of solo pieces by the members.
	🤯 7:20pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ PaulRobeson1923 @7:19 your Prognosis is great, Paul!
	7:20pm mic_a: Howe had an aggression in his picking technique that was much nastier than the usual virtuoso.
	7:20pm dale: i think you should play some blackmore's night now - you opened the door.
	7:20pm PaulRobeson1923: ↳ chris in the redwoods @7:20 Oh, Thank you! Thank you
	7:21pm Dean: That's my take, too, on Holdsworth. My favorite is probably his period with Soft Machine. RIP, Al Jaffee. Damn.
	7:21pm common: ↳ ultradamno @7:19 just heard that. big fan.
	7:21pm mic_a: Al Jaffee? Oh, gosh.
	🤯 7:21pm SeaCreature: Otoh love Howe packing chuck berry into the proggies
	7:22pm Dean: "Starship Trooper" on Yessongs...good god, can it get any better?
	7:22pm ultradamno: He predicted AI art twitter.com...
	🤯 7:22pm TroyD8: ↳ ultradamno @7:19 Damn! Al was a childhood hero to many of us doodlers.
	🤯 7:23pm HollyRT: ↳ ultradamno @7:19 I was about to post that. He was 102!! Legend
	7:23pm ?: These guys do a PERFECT cover of "Close to the Edge". Jon Anderson actually saw this and called the bass player. They're going to be his backing band on his upcoming tour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-x1VbHRFg
	7:23pm mic_a: If you can find a copy of Fantagraphic's reprint of "Humbug" magazine (that doesn't cost you a fortune), Al did a lot of fantastic work in that period.
	7:23pm Juli: That ruled
	7:23pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Sunshine" by "Bent Knee" That was something
	7:24pm Jackie G: ↳ Dean @7:22 Yeah, it's spellbinding
	7:24pm dday: ↳ dale @7:20 Willie Nile's drummer (American Ride period) Alex Alexander, played for Richie in that band for two years 98-00. He told me Blackmore's a lot funnier guy than most would think.
	🤯 7:25pm TroyD8: My Pal the Tortoise is my fav TFUL282 track.
	7:25pm dale: ↳ dday @7:24 i like that music. 180 degree turn from deep purple. which i also like.
	🤯 7:25pm G: Late again. Too much stuff going on over here. Will listen to the first half on archive.
	7:26pm Lisa H: This is the spitting prog image of a tune often sung during Yom Kippur services.
	7:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Booth Delirium" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local ... Time Signature ?
	7:26pm common: i member this band
	7:26pm Noel: I used to play My Pat the Tortoise on WUAG in 1995.
	7:26pm dday: I heard that an ELP tribute band called Manticore is playing at The Linda sometime in April. Never heard them, too far for me to travel
	7:27pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:26 Sorry, wasn't paying attention to that (for a change).
	7:27pm Juli: Oh boy....
	7:27pm Noel: Pal
	7:27pm Mattynotimes: If you haven’t listened to the prog punk band Gospel you should go check it out. Long Island band of 4 amazing musicians and maybe the best drummer I’ve ever seen
	7:27pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Squidder Boy" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" Well damn. It's been awhile.
	🤯 7:27pm TroyD8: ↳ Noel @7:26 I used to play it on KSVR in the 90's too :)
	7:27pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Sunshine" by "Bent Knee" OK. This is awesome. Have you ever heard XM-3a? Kind of on the metal side, but this show worthy...I only know of two tracks newheavysounds.bandcamp.com... blackmothband.bandcamp.com... Saw, TFUL 282 open for Sun City Girls in Chicago back in the day. Great, great band. The name did confuse people
	7:28pm Dean: Henry Cow/King Crimson/Captain Beefheart...
	7:28pm P-90: Paging Capt. Beefheart
	7:29pm Coach32sm: Or Tom Waits
	7:29pm Jackie G: ↳ Stephen from Glasgow @7:18 Yes in name only. They kinda suck
	7:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ZoogzRift
	7:30pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Squidder Boy" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" These guys were in heavy rotation within my college crew.
	7:30pm Dean: Dzyan! Damn, gotta take my daughter to soccer. Dig them.
	7:30pm mic_a: Prozzusion!
	7:30pm dday: ↳ Song: "Squidder Boy" by "Thinking Fellers Union Local 282" Sounded like it could've come out of a Spongebob episode
	7:31pm dale: hoping to hear novalis sometime, some more german prog.
	7:31pm ultradamno: But no band name is worse than Japanese noise rock band Captain Condoms.
	7:31pm joe mulligan: ↳ P-90 @7:28 yes! also the adjacent band Caroliner Rainbow takes on Capt Beefheart too, confirming the influence.
	7:31pm Bob O: I saw TFLU 282 in the 1990s in San Francisco. They were really good. As awkward as their moniker may be, I'm pretty sure that's what made me check them out. They encored with Green-Eyed Lady, by Sugarloaf. I heard here on FMU that they have a really good Box Set out.
	7:32pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:31 Yes, there will be Novalis at some point. Have I played them already? Can't remember.
	7:32pm joe mulligan: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:29 ah yes, old Zoogz! "Art band.. more like a fart band!"
	7:32pm Dave Mandl: ↳ ultradamno @7:31 Agreed, Captain Condoms is pretty bad.
	7:32pm ultradamno: Zoogz was a New Wave Theater highlight What is the meaning of life? Dada DA da da Da
	7:33pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:32 haven't heard any yet. but my wife talks over this show so it's hard to tell.
	7:33pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Mattynotimes @7:27 I will check them out. Thanks!
	7:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ dday @7:30 Point.
	🤯 7:34pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:18 When Anderson didn't want to tour or do an album of new material in the late 00s, they dumped him and hired soundalike vocalists (two so far). Howe won't let him back in, because it's become Howe's band now, especially since Squire and White died. Howe is a bossy guy; see his recent memoir _All My Yesterdays_.
	7:34pm joe mulligan: ↳ Bob O @7:31 good show, saw them in the mid 90s in Philly at the Khyber Pass. cool peeps. they were elevating the SF freak scene
	7:34pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:33 Infidel!
	🤯 7:34pm chresti: ↳ dale @7:33 My partner does that too, so I plug in my earbuddies
	7:34pm Juli: For Earthly Thinking::: Present moment is this for me: www.instagram.com...
	7:34pm Juli: I really love love this show
	7:34pm laurapanic: plink plink plink blerggh
	7:35pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Juli @7:34 Thanks, Juli. It loves you right back.
	7:35pm dday: I've been immersed in Nick Cave world from The Boys Next Door thru to his latest with just him & Warren Ellis. Prog is sounding very civilized compared to most of that.
	7:35pm dale: ↳ chresti @7:34 gonna try that. don't even need sound on.
	🤯 7:36pm G: ↳ Dean @7:22 Howe changes that end solo in _Starship Trooper_ every tour (see official live releases and many bootlegs). Always interesting to see his new takes on it.
	7:36pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:20 Which Blackmore would you recommend? I'm not that up on his solo stuff.
	🤯 7:36pm chresti: ↳ dale @7:35 He doesn't seem to notice, I just smile and nod
	7:37pm ultradamno: ↳ dday @7:35 Seem like some of his Grinderman stuff might fit on this show...there was even a Fripp cameo on one
	7:37pm Jackie G: ↳ G @7:34 Thought Jon Anderson got sick, had to cancel tour. Howe, Squire didn't wait for him to recover. Then they took on these Jon Anderson wannabes. The singer in Yes now is awful.
	7:37pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:36 i'd have to go to youtube to listen to some things. i'm not superfamiliar, just know i like it when it's in a shuffle.
	🤯 7:38pm Stephen from Glasgow: ↳ Jackie G @7:29 I try and stay out of all of the Yes arguments. I still enjoy the current lineup and I'm glad they exist.
	🤯 7:38pm SeaCreature: ↳ G @7:34 After many years, I was curious and went back for that first tour without Anderson, went back a couple more times to diminishing returns. Not sure Alan White managed enough energy to hit the snare drum last time and the tempos were slow-mo
	7:38pm Juli: Ohhhhhhh I like where this went. Lol indeed.
	7:40pm Coach32sm: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:36 Blackmore's Rainbow stuff was mostly good. Long Live Rock and Roll cover looks like Tull's Stand Up
	7:40pm Jeremy: Thinking Fellers shoulda been contenders. One of the best live bands I ever saw.
	7:40pm dale: ...i would hate to recommend something that is more renaissance faire than prog.
	7:40pm Jackie G: ↳ Stephen from Glasgow @7:38 Well, Yes is like Geronimo and the Apaches, their time has come to an end. Sadly
	🤯 7:40pm G: ↳ Jackie G @7:37 Yes, Anderson developed lung issues, maybe MJ-use related. But once he was out and they were paying sideman prices rather than a large cut to Anderson, Howe consistently says in interviews for years now that Anderson is never coming back, though Anderson always says he would consider coming back. Maybe an extra-income issue, there, for Howe.
	🤯 7:41pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:38 White had back problems for years, before the end.
	7:41pm dday: ↳ ultradamno @7:37 Possible for sure. I'm about mid way through his catalog. Once I hit the end (Carnage the new one) Then I'll hit the Grinderman stuff
	7:41pm Juli: Don Cab!
	7:41pm ?: Jon Anderson and Sherman Hemsley were going to record an album about the magical properties of the number 8. Hemsley was a huge prog fan. There's an episode of the Jeffersons where he is dancing to Nektar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIcbXOnvnQY
	7:42pm ultradamno: A band name that has you telling on yourself if you take offense.
	7:42pm Juli: You, Slut!
	7:42pm lazy pierogi: but why no Don Caballero!!
	7:43pm ?: This has to be one of the wildest rock anecdotes. Sherman Hemsley and Daevid Allen: https://magnetmagazine.com/2009/03/05/george-jefferson-worlds-biggest-gong-fan/
	7:43pm Juli: ↳ ultradamno @7:42 I took this as a compliment lol
	7:43pm dale: this is a toe tapper!
	🤯 7:43pm TroyD8: Dave have you played any Isotope?
	🤯 7:43pm SeaCreature: ↳ G @7:41 I get that yeah, but when I’m having a train station convo with other folks who left before the encore, says it all.
	🤯 7:44pm chresti: ↳ Juli @7:42 Oh yeah? Well you medium bastard!
	7:44pm Dave Mandl: ↳ TroyD8 @7:43 I don't think I know them. I'll check them out, thanks.
	🤯 7:44pm drumbone: Great show, Dave!
	7:44pm Juli: ↳ chresti @7:44 I am a ghost medium!
	7:45pm slugluv1313: greetings, Dave! Complications! been listening while in lurk-and-wurk mode, totally loving Thee PROG!
	7:45pm ultradamno: A medium bastard is fine, but I prefer flamin' hot.
	7:45pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Magnifiererer" by "You Slut!" Loving this!
	7:45pm lazy pierogi: oops
	7:46pm dday: Transatlantic anyone ? : www.youtube.com...
	7:46pm common: don cab! used to tour with these weirdos
	🤯 7:46pm chresti: ↳ ultradamno @7:45 Or well done?
	7:47pm dday: ↳ Song: "Slice Where You Live Like Pie" by "Don Caballero" Slice? Pie? yes please , I'll take blueberry :)
	🤯 7:48pm TroyD8: ↳ dday @7:47 Now I want pie!
	7:48pm dday: It's just about time for Strawberry Rhubarb. I had rhubarb in my back yard years ago.
	7:49pm joe mulligan: ↳ common @7:46 his powell peralta skateboard model deck was iconic. I built together a bunch of those outta my first job at a bike/skate shop in the mid 80s
	🤯 7:49pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ dday @7:48 just like my Ma used to make! yum!
	7:49pm common: ↳ joe mulligan @7:49 crazy!
	7:49pm Juli: I have a ton of fruit and coconut milk yogurt!! Healthier than a pi
	7:50pm Dean: Upthread there, the shout-out to Isotope...seconded! Such a marvelous group, with and without Hopper. And Gary Boyle solo is sweet, too.
	7:50pm PaulRobeson1923: Rectum!
	7:50pm laurapanic: math rock is prog
	7:50pm bobobob plasticland: I thought Don Caballero were from the Midwest but i. could be wrong
	7:50pm lazy pierogi: ↳ joe mulligan @7:49 i think you're thinking of steve caballero?
	7:50pm Dean: Saw the Champs at a house in Oakland, killer.
	7:50pm common: ↳ bobobob plasticland @7:50 pittsburgh
	7:50pm Jackie G: ↳ Song: "Slice Where You Live Like Pie" by "Don Caballero" Making me happy in a prog sort of way.
	7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Slice Where You Live Like Pie" by "Don Caballero" Drums a bit he does.
	🤯 7:51pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:43 Unfortunately, I think Howe is making a retirement-plan and Howe-control decision there, not a best-show decision. Maybe he will relent at some point and Anderson will come back. But there's not a huge amount of time left.
	🤯 7:51pm SeaCreature: Still not sure what math rock is.
	7:51pm common: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:51 best drummer i ever saw
	7:51pm Dean: And Ruins at the late Hemlock Tavern. Fuck, yeah. And Melt Banana at Al's Bar.
	7:52pm common: dave. sctv stuff is true
	7:53pm Juli: ↳ Dean @7:51 Ruins!
	7:53pm ultradamno: Love Ruins..."Cambodia" is one the most jaw dropping recordings in the history of recordings (Melt Banana is cool too)
	🤯 7:53pm G: ↳ SeaCreature @7:51 Check out the wiki article on math rock for some basic ideas: "Math rock is a style of progressive and indie rock with roots in bands such as King Crimson and Rush as well as 20th-century minimal music composers such as Steve Reich. It is characterized by complex, atypical rhythmic structures (including irregular stopping and starting), counterpoint, odd time signatures, and extended chords. It bears similarities to post-rock."
	7:53pm dday: Zappas favorite TV charcater was Count Floyd on SCTV (Joe Flaherty). He loved the absurdity of the bits
	7:53pm Juli: Thanks friends! Ty Dave Mandl the DJ !!!!
	7:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ common @7:51 This fellow ? : en.wikipedia.org...
	7:53pm slugluv1313: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:09 YES! "Works Volume 1"
	7:53pm Dean: Love Supersister. We need a taste of Secret Oyster and Release Music Orchestra, my perennial requests.
	7:54pm ultradamno: I like algebra country & western
	🤯 7:54pm HollyRT: Oh yeah! I love these guys!
	7:54pm Listener Robert: ↳ common @7:52 I thought SM Ken looked like SM Moe Green (Harold Ramis). Ramis played the character of Moe Green before SCTV, though.
	7:54pm pot8o: thanks Dave! have a great week everyone!
	7:54pm laurapanic: ↳ G @7:53 thats not bad....
	7:54pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Dean @7:53 Oh sorry, I'll try to get to those at some point.
	7:54pm common: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:53 yep. insane!
	🤯 7:54pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Babylon" by "Supersister" Reminds me of CAN
	7:54pm Karl Ward: ↳ Song: "Babylon" by "Supersister" This here is a bass tone I can get behind
	7:55pm pp: last I checked Joe Belock used a pic of Rocco as his Twitter handle, another low rent character Joe Flaherty played on SCTV.
	7:55pm mistrrcaz: wow! Guy Caballero was a great character in sctv. Classic show too.
	🤯 7:55pm chresti: ↳ chresti @7:54 The drum+bass part
	7:55pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Karl Ward @7:54 This bass player agrees.
	🤯 7:55pm TroyD8: ↳ chresti @7:54 That's what my wife just yelled from the other room.
	7:55pm Destroit: Thanks Dave!
	7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ chresti @7:54 Can okay. Was thinking Crimson.
	7:56pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Babylon" by "Supersister" The horn heavy vibe is cool. Some nice playing going on!
	🤯 7:56pm SeaCreature: ↳ G @7:53 Thanks. I’m trying to smoothe out the KC vibe with groove oriented improvs and fewer time changes…
	🤯 7:57pm chresti: ↳ TroyD8 @7:55 Cheers to your wife's ears.
	7:57pm mic_a: Thanks, Dave! Be well, everyone.
	🤯 7:57pm Stephen from Glasgow: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:56 I'm thinking Soft Machine.
	7:57pm Dave Mandl: ↳ HollyRT @7:54 I know they're favorites of yours, Ms. H.
	7:57pm Dean: You're doing just fine, Dave Mandl! I only need to remind myself to remember. Supersister...and I think Banco, too...played in La Habra in the early '00s. La Habra is OC suburbia abutting LA County suburbia.
	7:57pm Jackie G: Thanks, man
	7:58pm Dave Mandl: Thanks as always, everyone. Have a fantastic week.
	🤯 7:58pm TroyD8: Thanks Dave! always a treat!
	🤯 7:58pm chris in the redwoods: thanks, Dave!
	🤯 7:58pm Stephen from Glasgow: Thanks, Dave.
	7:58pm bleubombersune: Dave thank you for the evening of prog All stay safe and be well
	7:58pm dale: thanks dave. good show!
	🤯 7:58pm chresti: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:56 I haven't listened to enough KC to ID an influence.
	7:59pm Chris Hiatt: Another great show. Thanks, Dave Mandl.
	🤯 7:59pm chresti: Thanks Dave!
	7:59pm slugluv1313: ↳ dale @7:20 Blackmore's Night? saw some live clips on youtube -- Blackmore is kinda making goofy jokes at times, which saves it from total Spinal Tap territory
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~
	🤯 8:00pm DjLorraine: Thank you
	🤯 8:00pm HollyRT: Night, Dave!
	8:00pm slugluv1313: thanks for the progeries, Dave!
	8:00pm lazy pierogi: TY DM
	8:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Pictures of a City' by KC maybe here...
	🤯 8:06pm SeaCreature: Another mind expanding show, thanks Dave
	🤯 8:07pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Dave Mandl!!!
	9:56pm Bob O: ↳ @7:23 Thanks!
	10:09pm Bob O: Who remembers the 'Lawsuit Tour' of around 1992 or so ? They Toured with both Classic Yes Members AND most of Trevor Rabin's 90215 guys. Bruford AND White? Fuggedaboudit!!!

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from April 10, 2023

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