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Favoriting April 3, 2023

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Yes  Five Percent for Nothing   Favoriting Fragile  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
 
Ange  La Bataille Du Sucre/La Colère Des Dieux   Favoriting Au-delà Du Délire  0:01:26 (Pop-up)
 
Argent  Losing Hold   Favoriting In Deep  0:10:05 (Pop-up)
 
Gentle Giant  On Reflection   Favoriting Free Hand  0:18:56 (Pop-up)
 
Curved Air  Propositions - Live   Favoriting Radio London 1970-1976  0:24:43 (Pop-up)
 
Modern Studies  Won't Be Long   Favoriting We Are There  0:32:01 (Pop-up)
Pavement  5-4=Unity   Favoriting Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain  0:35:48 (Pop-up)
 
Heldon  MVC II   Favoriting Un Rêve Sans Conséquence Spéciale  0:39:21 (Pop-up)
 
Urban Sax  Perchman aux oreilles mouvantes   Favoriting Spiral  0:47:05 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
G:

Posting early here is probably nicer than commenting on some of the younguns' deep thoughts on Techtonic right now :-)
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TroyD8:

Almost Prog time!
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ultradamno:

Dave! Mandlotrons!
Avatar 7:01pm
Coach32sm:

Beam me up Proggy!!!
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pot8o:

hi everyone!
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Handy Haversack:

It's go time!

MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!

Greetings, Dave and the Complications!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Chris Hiatt:

Let's go progging!
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
G:

I suppose everyone knows the title for this comes from a bad contract early Yes had signed with their early management.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
dale:

hey now, proglodytes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
StringOFperils:

Begin the calculus!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
luka:

calgon, take me away
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...you can't handle the Mandl !!...
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G:

↳ luka @7:02
lol
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HollyRT:

Evening everyone
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chresti:

Hi Dave and complicated music show!
  7:03pm
Dean:

Once upon a time I had a handful of Ange albums. And Mona Lisa.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:03pm
PaulRobeson1923:

Hi Hi Hi Hi!
  7:03pm
mic_a:

Hallooo Dave and progotrons!
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Handy Haversack:

↳ G @7:02
I did not know that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:04pm
bleubombersune:

Dave a hour of prog
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Dave Mandl:

Evening, all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm
bleubombersune:

Brothers Decamps, brilliant creators of prog
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
spodiodi:

greetings, Dave and all!
  🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:06pm
SeaCreature:

Evening, Dave & prog people.
  7:08pm
P-90:

This touches the goth-y side of prog
  7:09pm
ERIK / VermonT:

Oh man , I never dipped my toes into “Ange” and now I’m quite disoriented how much the vocals are reminding me of my precious Albert Marcoeur = yikes !
I’ve got chills. 1974 French-Speak singing. Love it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:09pm
dale:

that was pretty groovy.
  7:09pm
Dean:

A mini-Ray Shulman tribute tonight?
  🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:10pm
SeaCreature:

Ugh I see now Ray is no longer
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:10pm
StringOFperils:

The Sugar Battle and Anger of the Gods, those Ange titles
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Coach32sm:

Argent DID sing at times
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Ciggy:

OMG - I almost missed the Prog hour. It's Sure is Complicated
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bleubombersune:

Ange last studio album, '18 Heureux
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Dave Mandl:

Hey G, Troy, ultradamno, Coach, pot8o, Handy, Chris, dale, String, luka, RRB63, Holly, chresti, Paul, bleubombersune, spodoidi, SeaCreature, P-90, ERIK, Dean, Ciggy!
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:11pm
chresti:

La Bataya doo sookrah
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Dave Mandl:

↳ Dean @7:09
Ah, thanks for reminding me. Maybe something for Ray Shulman.
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Dave Mandl:

↳ Coach32sm @7:11
He sang with the Zombies, but I couldn't remember whether he sang in Argent, tbh.
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StringOFperils:

Oh, didn't know about Ray Shulman's...demise...?.....I'll check later....
  7:13pm
P-90:

This could almost pass for an old Bowie demo or something
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:13pm
G:

↳ Handy Haversack @7:03
Their early management had included a contract clause saying that even if Yes dropped him (which they did), he would still get 5%. After they really started making money (70-71), they were not happy campers.
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Juli:

Lonely ole me
j took sum kratom to help w loneliness lol
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Juli:

I'm used to a lot of friends around
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:14pm
G:

↳ Juli @7:14
Be friends with the music, Juli :-)
  7:14pm
mic_a:

Ah, I had the following album, "Nexus" -- featuring "The Coming of Kohoutek." If you remember that excitement.
  7:14pm
Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ:

Hello Dave and everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm
Ciggy:

↳ Song: "Losing Hold" by "Argent"
On the Argent album cover, Is that the Nirvana kid all grown up - ala Benjamin Button
  7:15pm
maria collins:

↳ StringOFperils @7:02
math scares me. WAH !
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Juli:

↳ G @7:14
The Art& Musick did always did get me thru :::)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm
Chris Hiatt:

↳ G @7:13
Ouch!
  7:15pm
ERIK / VermonT:

Oh Dave : seeing that your trekked up to Burlington VT, (concert at radio bean? - wow !) glad you just missed that massive snowstorm some folks had in our area.
Anyway - you drove right passed my neighborhood.
I sensed your presence and waived !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Song: "Losing Hold" by "Argent"
Nice gong in there. And flute?

Would Wucan count as prog, I wonder?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:16pm
dale:

i had no idea argent was so heavy and out there.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:17pm
chresti:

You are a winning winger
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:18pm
G:

GG is good to play -- underappreciated and not too commercially successful even in their heyday.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:18pm
Handy Haversack:

Happy birthday, Dave!
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chresti:

My ex likes to say "dropping like flies"
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ultradamno:

And to think, most ptsd related to prog is musical in nature, not attempted drowning.
  7:19pm
P-90:

This is one of my all-time faves
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:20pm
Handy Haversack:

K8 also instructs me to point out that *Dave* is a really excellent bass player! Then she said "smiles, smiles, wink, wink," but I don't know how to do that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:20pm
StringOFperils:

A prog pinnacle, you can see the curvature of the Earth from up here
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Dave Mandl:

↳ ERIK / VermonT @7:15
Ha! What luck! Yeah, the weather wasn't bad when we were in Burlington.
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TroyD8:

Bass here player too. Didn't hear about Ray's passing. :( was just watching live GG videos on YouTube yesterday.
  7:21pm
Dean:

That's interesting, G, because contract law (which I assume is similar enough in the UK to what we see in the US) involves a concept dubbed "consideration." Briefly, consideration is what both parties bring to the agreement. Absent consideration, we're looking only at a promise, which courts tend not to enforce. So, that the management dude got his 5% for "nothing" is not precisely true. Presumably--the actual historical circumstances could negate this presumption--the band agreed to pay (their consideration) him the 5% for any management services he provided (his consideration) even when he was no longer their manager.
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dday:

↳ Song: "On Reflection" by "Gentle Giant"
More a madrigal round
  7:22pm
Yuri G:

Sound like BIG GENERATIR YES
  7:22pm
Androu B.:

Good Evening & Happy belated birthday, Dave!

Everything you need to know about Rod Argent will be answered on Todd's show from last month, when he had Rod on as a guest:

https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/125101
  Swag For Life Member 7:23pm
Zinn The Mood:

Hey fellow Proggers. Is it possible that Yes was influenced by this vocal intro for “Leave It” from 90125?

Derek Shulman, I believe, went on to become President of Atco Records.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:24pm
Chris Hiatt:

↳ Song: "On Reflection" by "Gentle Giant"
Was waiting for that timpani to come out.
Really great vocal arrangement, mind blowing.
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SeaCreature:

Thankful I discovered this music in the 70s when I was super excited and discovering music of all kinds. Props to Michael and Dennis at MapleTunes in 07040.
  7:25pm
Dean:

I got me that big whoop-ass Gentle Giant 30CD box a couple years ago.

First heard GG on the release of Free Hand in a cool store on the east side of LA County, where I lived.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:25pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Song: "On Reflection" by "Gentle Giant"
The rhythm-writing is amazing. Crazy syncopation and abrupt time-signature changes. Love it.
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Kat in Chicago:

ooh Curved Air
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

HBD Richard Thompson btw
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
G:

↳ Dean @7:21
Apparently Yes thought of it as "nothing" haha
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Coach32sm:

First time I heard Curved Air I thought it was Airplane and/or Grace Slick
  7:27pm
Dean:

I've posted this before, but it's always worth repeating. Not too many years ago a group of music students in Sweden covered (in rehearsal) a Gentle Giant tune. They kill it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCdvHyMt75k
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:27pm
Chris Hiatt:

↳ Zinn The Mood @7:23
Re: Derek Shulman, true story!
  7:27pm
ERIK / VermonT:

Re “Dean” : considering how incredibly informed you are abt all things YES (among much else musical) I’m not entirely sure you aren’t Roger Dean himself. Wink 😉.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:28pm
PaulRobeson1923:

↳ Song: "Propositions - Live" by "Curved Air"
L S D
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Dave Mandl:

Yes, Ray and Derek Shulman both went on to become industry bigshots.
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StringOFperils:

↳ PaulRobeson1923 @7:28
Long Stimulating Discussion?
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HollyRT:

↳ Dean @7:27
Cool!! Saved to watch later
  7:30pm
AJIK:

Steve Howe uses all digital gear now. No analog at all
  7:30pm
Dean:

Folks who sign onto agreements with unfavorable terms are often disgruntled when those agreements play out against them. I don't know the details at all of the Yes anecdote, but if they knew what they were signing, then they got what they bargained for.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:31pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Song: "Propositions - Live" by "Curved Air"
You can't curve air!

But I am digging this a lot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:31pm
Chris Hiatt:

↳ Song: "Propositions - Live" by "Curved Air"
This is a banger. Lots of crazy things happening, but so seamless.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:31pm
PaulRobeson1923:

↳ StringOFperils @7:30
Long Stimulating Discussion, yes Yes and also Less Stucco Door
  7:31pm
Dean:

I love the work of those Swedish students. It's not a performance, but a rehearsal. They're taking it at a slower pace, but their enthusiasm and musical chops are infectious.
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TroyD8:

↳ Song: "Propositions - Live" by "Curved Air"
This album is on Spotify right now.
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DjLorraine:

Did someone say "radio London"? Gd evening
  7:33pm
watermark:

i think the Curved Air might be from this release https://www.discogs.com/release/3214421-Curved-Air-The-Lost-Broadcasts
  7:33pm
?:

↳ SeaCreature @7:24
Cool store in Maplewood. Bought some albums there
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Dave Mandl:

↳ TroyD8 @7:32
That's where I found it!
  7:33pm
AJIK:

A Rainbow in Curved Air
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HollyRT:

↳ Dean @7:31
I came across this recently. They also kill it www.youtube.com...
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G:

↳ Dean @7:30
I think it not infrequently happened with unsigned groups that they were so overjoyed at getting signed by real management, and so unsophisticated about contracts and business stuff, that they just signed what was put in front of them, and then found out later on that the s--- had hit the fan.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:35pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Song: "Won't Be Long" by "Modern Studies"
Played once by Joe McG and once by efd before being played here -- a distinguished history!
  7:35pm
Androu B.:

↳ Handy Haversack @7:31
¡Hola, Handy!
Er...have you ever even taken a look at a weather map?
  7:36pm
Dean:

Slapp Happy + Henry Cow! Wow, amazing, unpredictable. Will listen post-show. Thanks.

Totally agree, @G. Overjoyed, but also above it all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:36pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Androu B. @7:35
¡Hola, Androu!

That don't prove nothin'! They do all that with computers and their hot-oil rubdowns and whatnots!
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SeaCreature:

↳ @7:33
Yeah those guys would play me stuff like the much treasured Aphrodite’s Child 666.
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Juli:

Classic
  7:37pm
ERIK / VermonT:

Lovely … contemporary prog ! Now I can breathe easy that the lineage will continue & prosper
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
ultradamno:

Adding Slapp Happy to Henry Cow is how you get Art Bears..
  7:38pm
AJIK:

In the bridge of "Happiness is a Warm Gun" by the Beatles the band goes into 3/4 but Ringo forgets and stays in 4/4. But the length is such that they land together on one at the end
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SeaCreature:

Love this one
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TroyD8:

↳ Song: "5-4=Unity" by "Pavement"
This is sweet!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm
coelacanth∅:

i would not have predicted ever hearing pavement on it's complicated
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:39pm
G:

↳ ERIK / VermonT @7:37
There are at least four-five generations of prog, and all kinds of compound-word ("x prog") niche genre names. Maybe Spock's Beard here some time...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:40pm
coelacanth∅:

AJIK i always assumed that was intentional!
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StringOFperils:

It takes all kinds of prog to make a dark forest
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "5-4=Unity" by "Pavement"
- & this little gittar arpeggio reminds me of 'She's So Heavy'...
Beatles liked WaltzTime...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:40pm
Handy Haversack:

I do want to say that Tim from Washington gave me a copy of Marillion's Fugazi on LP when he was here for Marathon, and I listened to it, and it sounded very good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:41pm
Handy Haversack:

And I should go start chopping things for dinner. Radio will be on!
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dale:

this reminds me of nick cave's 'the carney.' wonder if he dug heldon.
  7:41pm
AJIK:

Dave any chance you'd be wiling to an Intro to Italian Prog set? That's my final frontier of prog
  7:42pm
Jackie G:

↳ Song: "MVC II" by "Heldon"
Oh my. This
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:42pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...the bandname Heldon just made it that much more bitterly ironic when they were Letgo by their label...
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Dave Mandl and all!!!
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dale:

richard pinhas's 'rhizosphere' is a favorite of mine. i need to dig more into heldon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:43pm
ultradamno:

I would bet Mick Harvey and Barry Adamson brought the Heldon to the table, if it is in fact in the mix
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Dave Mandl:

↳ AJIK @7:41
I sprinkle in the Italian stuff here and there. Not sure I'd want to play it all at once. But also I've played a lot of the "intro" stuff already.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:44pm
Rich in Washington:

Love Pinhas' guitar work.
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:44pm
G:

↳ AJIK @7:41
He played a Premiata Forneria Marconi track late last year...
  7:44pm
watermark:

Very late to the party but I'm so glad I've found this show! Thanks for bringing the prog to WFMU
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:44pm
chresti:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:40
I heard that
  7:44pm
mic_a:

Really enjoying this heavy metal music.
  Swag For Life Member 7:44pm
lpfnrobin:

This sounds good. You are what you eat!
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Dave Mandl:

↳ watermark @7:44
My pleasure. Thanks for joining the party.
  7:45pm
Jackie G:

↳ Song: "MVC II" by "Heldon"
Yes did a present tense of this during the Big Generator era.
  7:45pm
Marie in Queens:

↳ Song: "MVC II" by "Heldon"
wow, heavy
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G:

Time to fix the shrimp. Streaming still on, though...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:46pm
bleubombersune:

Richard Pinhas, Francois Auger and Patrick Gauthier created remarkable music
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:46pm
dale:

i googled and this was on cuneiform records (or maybe that was a reissue). check out jasun martz 'the pillory' on the same label. side one is a ripper.
  7:46pm
lazy pierogi:

fantastic
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:49pm
bleubombersune:

Supposedly Cuneiform released on CD Heldon's entire collection
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:49pm
ultradamno:

Cuneiform also put out some stuff by Etron offshoot Volapük, which would be great to hear on here sometime...
  Swag For Life Member 7:50pm
lpfnrobin:

↳ dale @7:46
Great label.....timeless
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TroyD8:

↳ Song: "Perchman aux oreilles mouvantes" by "Urban Sax"
Nice bass sound!
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Dave Mandl:

↳ ultradamno @7:49
Yes, I'll definitely play Volapük at some point.
  7:52pm
Jackie G:

↳ Song: "Perchman aux oreilles mouvantes" by "Urban Sax"
Spiral Gyrol
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:53pm
dale:

here's the jasun martz tune i was referencing. i think he's am artist/painter in nyc today.

www.youtube.com...
  🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:53pm
SeaCreature:

I seem to recall a cable news spot portraying urban sax as a collective that took over public spaces with a marching blare of brass. Clearly it evolved.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:54pm
Chris Hiatt:

↳ Song: "Perchman aux oreilles mouvantes" by "Urban Sax"
Getting a wee bit of a Music for 18 Musicians vibe on this one.
  Swag For Life Member 7:55pm
lpfnrobin:

↳ SeaCreature @7:53
I want that! play brass but its all in the lips need ears...
  7:55pm
Jackie G:

↳ Chris Hiatt @7:54
Thatsa good thing. Right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm
Chris Hiatt:

↳ Jackie G @7:55
Right!
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chresti:

↳ Song: "Perchman aux oreilles mouvantes" by "Urban Sax"
nice marching around the kitchen music
  🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:57pm
SeaCreature:

↳ lpfnrobin @7:55
Like Honk NYC?
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Dave Mandl:

Thanks, all. You're great. See you next week.
Avatar 7:57pm
pot8o:

thanks Dave! have a great week everyone!
  Swag For Life Member 7:57pm
lpfnrobin:

↳ chresti @7:56
Food is music! Music dictates what you eat
  🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:57pm
SeaCreature:

Thanks boss, magic, as always
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Dave Mandl!!!
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TroyD8:

Thanks Dave & Prog People!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
Chris Hiatt:

Another great show. This one especially, lots of heady stuff. Thanks, Dave Mandl!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "Perchman aux oreilles mouvantes" by "Urban Sax"
...this just sounds like Modern academic Minimalism ...I'll need to see everyone's Papers...
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
chresti:

Thanks Dave!!
  7:58pm
Androu B.:

Thanks, Dave! Exceptional show tonight!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
luka:

danke Dave and happy birthday
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:58pm
bleubombersune:

Dave a most enjoyable hour of prog music
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
StringOFperils:

Thank you, Dave!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
chresti:

↳ lpfnrobin @7:57
Music is food!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
spodiodi:

thanks, Dave! great show
  7:59pm
Jackie G:

Next week, Rhys Chatham
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:59pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ chresti @7:59
A favorite analogy, indeed.
  8:00pm
mic_a:

Thanks Dave!! Take care all!
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HollyRT:

Thanks, Dave!
  Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
lpfnrobin:

↳ chresti @7:59
It is!!!
Avatar 🤯 Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
chresti:

HaPpY BiRtHdAy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Dave!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:00pm
dale:

thanks for the good tunes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:14pm
coelacanth∅:

Thanks Dave
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:23pm
Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Dave!
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