WFMU: Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from March 2, 2023

Listener comments!
	🥁 3:00pm Yvang: Hi Larry! Ready to testify and let's get classical!
	3:00pm Funky16Corners: Hey Yvang!
	3:01pm Phillippe: howdy
	3:01pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Larry and all other listeners!
	3:01pm Funky16Corners: Phillippe! Andrew!
	3:01pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Phillippe @3:01 Hi Phillippe!
	3:02pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Yvang @3:00 Hi Yvang!
	🥁 3:03pm Yvang: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:02 Andrew! Hi!
	3:05pm Erica: Hi Larry I made it
	3:05pm Funky16Corners: I'll go into it during the break, but this piece of music, especially the second section, has had a surprisingly long life.
	3:05pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @3:05 Hi Erica!
	🥁 3:05pm WR: ↳ Song: "Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique"... Lovely but certainly unexpected.
	3:06pm doctorjazz: My, we're CLASSY today! (Not that you aren't otherwise...)
	3:06pm Funky16Corners: Hey WR! All classical today!
	3:06pm Funky16Corners: Hey Doc!
	3:06pm Erica: Not sure if I can handle 4 hours of classical music but I will try to hang in there.
	3:06pm still b/p: You know what Beethoven had? Family troubles! Heard a bit about that recently. Why is that the feature of life shared more widely among us than artistic genius, huh?
	3:07pm doctorjazz: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:06 Doug out those Shady Dogs, Mercs, etc!
	3:07pm Marie: I am up for this, very intrigued. Hi Larry, hi all! Sometimes I really get into classical music
	3:07pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @3:07 Hiya doc!
	3:07pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:06 Hey sbp! I was reading biographical info on some of today's featured composers and learning some surprising things.
	3:08pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @3:07 Hi Marie!
	3:08pm TDK60: Larry! I dig the classics. Led Zep, Boston, that stuff.
	3:08pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @3:08 When Mozart's Levee Breaks, coming up next!
	3:10pm doctorjazz: Gives you more time to breath between recordings...
	3:10pm Funky16Corners: I shouldn't have been surprised, but when reading about this piece I discovered that Beethoven was also well-known as a skilled pianist, which he must have been to compose this (among other pieces)
	🥁 3:11pm Mxter Baba: Beethoven was such a drama queen! Hey, Larry and folx!
	3:11pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:10 It's funny, I think the longest non-classical piece that I've played is a 23 minute Pink Floyd track, which seemed extremely long.
	3:12pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:11 Hey Baba!
	3:12pm Phillippe: hey Andrew!
	3:12pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:11 Hi baba!
	🥁 3:13pm Mxter Baba: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:12 Hello there!
	3:13pm Erica: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:11 Yeah Beethoven wasn't so great lol. Just don't tell Schroeder that
	3:13pm Phillippe: mxter!
	3:13pm doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:07 Hi Andrew
	3:13pm CupcakeJenny: Hello Testifiers!
	3:14pm Funky16Corners: ↳ CupcakeJenny @3:13 Hey Jenny!
	3:14pm Erica: ↳ CupcakeJenny @3:13 Hi Jenny!
	3:14pm Funky16Corners: Though there are a few challenging pieces in today's program, this should provide an opportunity to chill out and let the music take you away.
	3:14pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique"... Man, GORGEOUS!!!
	🥁 3:14pm Mxter Baba: ↳ Erica @3:13 LOL!!!
	🥁 3:15pm Mxter Baba: ↳ Phillippe @3:13 Phillippekins! I hope you are as well as can be!
	🥁 3:15pm WR: ↳ Song: "Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique"... This Radu dude haz gotz sklzs.
	3:15pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:14 This is one of those pieces that is genuinely moving.
	3:16pm CupcakeJenny: Hi Erica! How are you?
	3:16pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @3:15 Wait'll he turns the piano over and sets it on fire...
	🥁 3:16pm Mxter Baba: ↳ WR @3:15 OMX 😹
	🥁 3:17pm WR: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:16 Mxter Babakins, right?
	3:19pm TDK60: There was a long-running public radio syndicated show "Adventures in Good Music" with Karl Haa, that used the segment of the last few moments for its theme music.
	🥁 3:19pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:16 He's bringing 🔥 an inner burn to those who are receptive.
	3:20pm TDK60: ↳ TDK60 @3:19 Sorry, Haas. It went from 1970 to 2007. en.wikipedia.org...
	🥁 3:22pm Mxter Baba: ↳ WR @3:19 O I thot wuz hot flash
	3:26pm northguineahills: ↳ TDK60 @3:20 haa!
	🥁 3:27pm WR: ↳ TDK60 @3:20 Yes, listened to Haas somewhat regularly sometime in the past.
	3:27pm Sem: Love, love, love all of this.
	3:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @3:26 Hey NGH!
	3:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Sem @3:27 Hi Sem!
	3:28pm Marie: I think my first and almost only exposure to classical was in old movies (musicals) and in doctor's waiting rooms (and radio dial turning). Then I started listening to it when I studied in college (cuz it was the only music I could listen to while studying)
	3:28pm northguineahills: in the middle of a lab, so no instructor, so, i can listen...
	3:29pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @3:28 The extent to which most people encounter classical music as "background" cannot be underestimated.
	3:29pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @3:28 I think you could let today's program run in most spaces without objection.
	3:31pm doctorjazz: ↳ WR @3:19 No LP's? (No matter...)
	3:31pm Marie: I think they might use a lot classical in old Westerns too, where I think it is great
	3:31pm Funky16Corners: All the Czechs put your hands in the air!
	3:31pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @3:28 i literally can't study w/o music (my adhd gets the best of me). It can be any music, any genre (not distracted by lyrics, as i don't hear them anyways). it forms a constant aural background for my lateral portions of my brain to focus on, so I can study the work at hand...
	3:32pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:31 The majority of my classical collection is on CD. I do have a bunch of modern stuff on LP that I should dig out for the next go round
	3:32pm still b/p: Always interesting when I get a closer encounter whether via a movie theater's sound system or better yet in the audience of a live orchestra, and the brain pays a fuller degree of attention and the whole body says, "Hey, daaaaaamn!"
	3:32pm Andrew in Toronto: Wayne Shorter R.I.P.
	3:32pm Erica: Yeah. Classical music is for those who study for exams and for people who really love music and want to learn how to play an instrument
	3:32pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @3:31 Very interesting. I bet a lot of people/students with ADHD could benefit from doing that too
	3:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:32 The majority of my classical is on LP (probably b/c I got it cheap used)
	3:32pm Erica: At least that is how I see it.
	3:33pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:32 It's funny, one of those Facebook things about you best concerts was going around and all of my most recent live concerts have been classical events
	3:33pm doctorjazz: ↳ northguineahills @3:31 I'm the same, have music on all thetime (to my wife's consternation, though I think she's adjusting, as long as it's not free jazz or similar...)
	3:33pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @3:32 then again, music is where my brain gets very ocd w/o me being conscious of it.
	3:33pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:32 I saw that. I think he was ill for a while. One of the great "young lions" who bridged hard bop right on into fusion
	3:34pm northguineahills: ocd is the wrong term, but very particular in obsessing over every detail...
	3:35pm doctorjazz: Have a bunch of RCA Shaded Dogs, Mercury Living Presence, and other LP's from the 60s (cause I'm an obsessive)
	🥁 3:35pm WR: A quote from NPR attributed to Shorter, "The six years I was with Miles we never talked about music," Shorter told NPR in 2013. "Miles, on his table, he had scores of Koussevitzky, the conductor ... and then he had another book on architecture and another book on law. Just sitting on the table. And then he'd talk about clothes and fashion."
	3:35pm Funky16Corners: Is there a more sonorous instrument than the cello?
	3:35pm StringOFperils: I think classical music is for everybody, and shouldn't put anyone off. Most of it's not really 'about' anything, so it's a kind of pure world of sound, that a listener can get lost in it and be taken somewhere if they allow it. It's full of all kinds of things for everyone.
	3:36pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @3:35 Agree 100%
	3:36pm northguineahills: now keeping my physical musical media and books indexed very particularly, i am ocd...
	3:37pm Sem: ↳ StringOFperils @3:35 Just so, well put.
	🥁 3:37pm WLSClark: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:10 This comment just made Beethoven roll over! (laughing, that is)
	🥁 3:38pm WR: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:32 Thank you for the headline, Andrew iT.
	3:38pm Marie: I'm lovin' this
	3:38pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WLSClark @3:37 Hey Clark!
	3:38pm Erica: ↳ StringOFperils @3:35 It should be for everyone but not everyone is interested in this kind of music.
	🥁 3:38pm WLSClark: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:11 This is NOT funny. Beethoven's piece would be 10x as good as a 23 minute PF song ever would be. And I'm not a classical music guy (except for Classical gas)
	3:40pm still b/p: One of the earliest face-full-of-classical-music encounters? Disney's "Fantasia" (the original) at the movies with 6th grade class. Of course had the Peter and the Wolf thing on record at home when younger than that.
	3:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @3:38 I think the point is they ought to be. People are programmed by various cultural forces to look at classical music as daunting, where they ought to be taught in school that it has everything to offer (aside from pulsing electronic bass) that all music does.
	3:41pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:40 It's interesting how much kids of my generation (born in 1962) had classical music presented in many kid-friendly forms, like Peter and the Wolf, Fantasia etc
	🥁 3:42pm WLSClark: ↳ Erica @3:38 To be honest, Erica, I am with you. Haven't even put sound on. it IS soothing, but just got up from a nap, so don't need more sleep right now. I guess he was "before my time." haha
	3:42pm TDK60: I listen to a lot of classical. Old LPs left by my dad. Newish stuff from the public library. I'm lucky to have the public library at Lincoln Center with tons of CDs. Radio, etc.
	3:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:32 So sorry to hear that-another giant gone (glad I got to see him at NJPAC a few years back).
	3:42pm timinoak: Loving this show! Thank you.
	3:42pm Funky16Corners: We had a Mattel thing called a Show and Tell, that was kind of home filmstrip projector that had a turntable on top and a slide projector in the side. The cool thing for me was that all of the flipsides of the story records were classical pieces, that had been used in the stories as backing music
	3:43pm Funky16Corners: ↳ timinoak @3:42 Thanks timinoak!
	🥁 3:44pm WLSClark: ↳ WLSClark @3:42 I DO love some of PDQ Bach (like his "On the Air" LP!
	3:44pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @3:35 I also got most of them when people were dumping LP's for "perfect sound forever" cds at bargain prices (at least compared to today...)
	3:45pm TDK60: I tend to like the newer classical: early 20th Century up to the 21st. From Debussy and Stravinsky on up.
	3:45pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:44 I've been able to add a tone of classical stuff to my collection buying used CDs on the cheap.
	3:46pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ WLSClark @3:44 Hi Clark!
	3:46pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @3:45 Big favorites of mine, too. You'll hear Vaughan Williams, Delius and Copland today. I have to get out my Milhaud and Stravinsky for the next time
	🥁 3:47pm WLSClark: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:46 Hi Andrew.
	🥁 3:48pm WLSClark: I like Ennio Morricone western music. Would it be classical. ALSO, I DID by Tomita's Snowflakes are Dancing and Switched on Back when they came out.
	3:50pm Funky16Corners: Back in 2019 I did a show of pop/rock music based on classical themes. If I do that again there will def be some Tomita in it: wfmu.org...
	3:50pm doctorjazz: I haven't gone to much in the way of NY/NJ classical music concerts in a while, but i often vacation in The Berkshires during the sheet, love me some Classical Tanglewood, lie down on the lawn, heaven...
	🥁 3:50pm WR: Few months ago read a book about Dvorak's and some other leading composers and critics of the time expectation that African American and Native American cultures would be a major source of inspiration and direction of American culture but we ended up with Copeland and Bernstein instead. Covered the many composers that did the work but were shunned by the classical music "establishment " and how even Gershwin and Ives were not allowed into the standard repertoire the way Copeland was. wwnorton.com...
	3:51pm TDK60: Larry, I really dig Vaughan Williams. A bit old-fashioned, but not his later symphonies. He really knew how to grab you.
	3:51pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @3:51 Wait'll you hear the piece I'm playing today.
	3:51pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:42 I have a lot of those pickwick recs
	3:51pm still b/p: How 'bout the whole Mozart for Babies thing, for stimulating brain development. Later the expert view was, "Well, mayyyybe, but not proven." And speaking of brain effects, the Rite of Spring debut and the crowd gone into wild disturbance! (Provoked by music or choreography, or both? Disputed.) I heard some academic say the sounds were so alien to those brains that they could only pitch a fit in agitated response.
	3:52pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @3:50 Ives is a big favorite of my father's. The man spent his life as an insurance actuary.
	🥁 3:52pm WR: ↳ WLSClark @3:48 Yes, Clark, agreed, all good music to my ears too.
	3:52pm StringOFperils: This kind of music comes from older music that evolved out of everyday life and nature, and gradually became its own specialized pursuit. Probably because it remains in wholly abstract form, it isn't as broadly popular as something written in repetitive verses or stanzas that have lyrics that can be thought to be about something tangible. Sex and desire, most of the time. Or topical material like the news. That way a person can listen to music and still be thinking, instead not thinking (shocking!) and being purely transported, which takes a conscious choice, and some dedication. Like attentively reading a sprawling novel.
	3:53pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:51 Apparently the reaction to Nijinsky's ballet of Debussy's Afternoon of a Faun evoked a similar negative reaction.
	3:53pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @3:50 *during the summer, ahem...
	3:54pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @3:52 I was reading about Saint-Saen's Carnival of the Animals, and it's apparently filed with sample-like references to other music/composers, the vast majority of which I had no idea about
	3:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ StringOFperils @3:52 It's a kind of meditation, to me...
	3:56pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:54 I read that too (see also Bartok in taking folk themes)
	3:57pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @3:56 Bartok, Smetana, Vaughan Williams, Copland and on and on
	🥁 3:58pm WR: From Wikipedia about the cellist: " Harrell seldom trusted his instruments to airline baggage handlers and in 2012 he achieved a certain amount of notoriety when Delta Air Lines kicked him out of its frequent-flier program for registering and traveling with his cello, which had been enrolled as “Mr. Cello Harrell.”
	3:59pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @3:58 I like his style!
	4:00pm TDK60: I'm a fan of moderns like Henry Cowell, Lou Harrison.
	4:00pm Funky16Corners: I wouldn't trust them either. Those instruments are worth in the tens of thousands of dollars (if not more)
	4:00pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @4:00 I need to explore modern composers more
	🥁 4:01pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:59 If he was buying a ticket for Mr Cello, Mr Cello should get the frequent flyer points, right.
	🥁 4:01pm Brian in UK: Hello Larry. Great idea especially for a long show.
	4:01pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @4:01 Hi Brian!
	4:01pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:01 The cello could take its own vacations
	🥁 4:02pm Brian in UK: Remember the first time I heard Bach's Cello Suites played by Pablo Casals. Mesmerising.
	🥁 4:02pm David Shortell: gocomics.com...
	4:03pm StringOFperils: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:54 Composers throw in 'quotes' fairly often, and sometimes they hide other things. Little codes. Writing music IS a code.
	4:04pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @4:02 I have a collection of Bach cello music by Janos Starker
	4:04pm Marie: Call me a square but I don't like the atonal and what I call maudlin classical music
	4:04pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @4:04 i picture you more of a rhombus...
	4:04pm Funky16Corners: ↳ David Shortell @4:02 Hey David! That's great!
	4:04pm StringOFperils: There's a lot of regional folk music in these themes that Dvorak is using.
	4:06pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @4:04 hee hee hee--I'm actually like totally elliptical
	4:07pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @4:06 bi-axial, I can see that (due to school, all I can see right now is geometry)
	4:08pm TDK60: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:00 Larry, those two were among the first Americans to look west across to Asia for inspiration. Also the Canadian Colin McPhee.
	4:10pm still b/p: Worked with friends in a stage piece several years ago that had spoken poetic text set to original music. Without experience or training or much close previous exposure, trying to get hold of any discernible countable beats in the modern-idiom music was STRAINingly tough for us who needed more standard graspable rhythm. I never did succeed at hearing it.
	🥁 4:10pm David Shortell: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:41 Fantasia? I prefer Bob Clampett's answer film "A Corny Concerto". youtube.com...
	🥁 4:13pm Brian in UK: Larry, agree about the cello.
	4:13pm Erica: ↳ David Shortell @4:10 I once saw Fantasia in music class as a kid. Not sure if was the censored version as it did have a racist scene in it
	4:14pm Erica: ↳ Erica @4:13 I don't remember much of the film.
	4:18pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @4:14 It's a pretty spectacular piece of work, as is Fantasia 2000. There's a DVD set that contains both.
	🥁 4:19pm Yvang: ↳ Song: "Handel - Water Music Suite #2" by "Neville Marrin... That's a perfect piece of music to have in the earbuds while walking through the gardens of Versailles for example.
	4:19pm TDK60: Darnit, I have to leave the building. But definitely, I will come back to see what happened, in the archives. Thanks, Larry!
	4:19pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @4:19 Thanks TDK!
	4:21pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Yvang @4:19 It's like CBS Sunday Morning!
	🥁 4:21pm David Shortell: ↳ David Shortell @4:10 “You know, it is so sad. All your knowledge of high culture comes from Bugs Bunny cartoons.” —Elaine Benes to Jerry Seinfeld. youtube.com...
	4:21pm Funky16Corners: ↳ David Shortell @4:21 You could do worse...
	4:22pm Little Danny: hi larry, love your classy side!
	4:22pm drowsy: Nice switch-up Larry, thank you for the show!
	4:23pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @4:22 Hey Danny!
	4:23pm Funky16Corners: ↳ drowsy @4:22 Hi drowsy!
	4:24pm doctorjazz: I just tried to connect with my office computer to The Drummer Stream-it's been blocked for years by the firewall, have to use my phone in a jerryrigged setup. But something went by the wayside in some upgrade or other, it's now allowing me to connect, view the web page, stream. Hmmmm, time to adjust strategies....
	4:25pm StringOFperils: I enjoy finding hours of composed art music interspersed with all the other WFMU offerings. Now and then there's a regular show devoted to it, but things come and go. I feel like there could always be at least one hard-core 'classical' program on the streams without tearing a hole in the fabric of the universe.
	4:25pm Little Danny: Classify :)
	🥁 4:29pm WR: ↳ doctorjazz @4:24 shhhhh. I won't tell if you don't.
	4:30pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @4:24 That's good news!
	4:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @4:25 I like that, Danny!
	🥁 4:31pm dutchtheo: Hey, Larry and classical testifiers. I missed only three songs...
	4:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @4:25 You'd think an enterprise as vast and diverse as WFMU could do that.
	4:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ dutchtheo @4:31 Hey Theo!
	4:32pm Marie: One time, I was in Paris, in a beautiful famous, historic square/garden and a small band was playing 4 seasons and I couldn't help it, I started crying. It was so beautiful and moving. I''m stepping away for a bit--back soon.
	4:32pm Funky16Corners: Prepare yourself, there are sound effects in this piece, though the narration with which it is sometimes presented is absent
	4:32pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @4:32 That's wonderful, Marie.
	4:33pm Little Danny: ↳ TDK60 @4:00 i really like lou harrison's pacifika rondo, Three pieces for gamelan w/soloists, jealousy of emer, i need to dig deeper into his catalog tho!
	4:33pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @4:33 That sounds interesting!
	4:35pm Little Danny: yeah as tdk mentioned, he did a lot with non-western instruments and modes, one of these rabbit holes i keep meaning to fall down!
	4:36pm Little Danny: larry what's your source for classical radio car listening?
	4:37pm Funky16Corners: I listen to the Sirius Classical channel. There used to be two on-air channels and an opera channel, but they cut it back to one in the car and two on the app, one a "pops" channel and the other for longer pieces. It's actually very well programmed.
	4:37pm northguineahills: I admit, I did start collecting classical cds before I even got into music (being a jr high french horn player). I believe Saint-Saens and Vivaldi were my first cds. My usual narrative, is the first music I bought was the Singles sndtk, followed by Dinosaur's Greenmind when I was 16, but I forgot about those two earlier classical cds...
	🥁 4:38pm WR: ↳ StringOFperils @4:25 wfmu.org... There was a regular and fantastic program on the broadcast stream on a weeknight for a while, A440, but the host decided she couldn't continue. She did a drummer stream Stork fill in last summer but demurred from becoming a regular. Bethany will always be welcome to come back. No one else has stepped up. I know Doug would welcome someone.
	4:38pm Funky16Corners: They playa lot of long form choral pieces and operas, too
	4:39pm northguineahills: and done w/ school... waiting for my friend to pick me up from Gainesville to see his darkwave band play. First live music i'll have seen since I was hospitalized 1.5 years ago...
	4:39pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:38 If I didn't have a wife and two kids and the need for food and sleep I'd volunteer to add it to my workload
	4:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @4:39 I cannot remember the last time I saw live music. It may have been the program at NJPAC where they played the Warner Brothers cartoons with a live orchestra
	4:41pm Sem: +++ Larry, thank you for all this.
	4:41pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:39 sleep? I'm living proof you don't need thunk"snoooooore"
	4:41pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Sem @4:41 My pleasure, Sem!
	4:42pm northguineahills: ↳ WR @4:38 back in the before before time, I did a benefit fundraiser w/ Bethany and others (this was before she djed at wfmu, and I was really young)
	4:44pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @4:32 i've cried on the subway platform before. Perfect music, perfect place, perfect timing for me...
	4:44pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @4:44 The first time I heard the Vaughan Williams Tallis piece I was moved to tears.
	4:46pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:18 It's still my favorite Disney film. I saw it first in the theaters when I was 8 (must have been a reprint)... all the movies since have been crap! (ok, I get a little tired of the mouse down here)>
	🥁 4:46pm WR: ↳ Song: "Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica" by "Sheila ... This used to be one of my goto recordings to listen to. Now gotta look up to see what recording I have, it was on Angel records, which could be this EMI recording, but I think it was more recent than 1952. Looking it up now.
	4:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:46 It's a wild piece. Another one I heard on the radio first. I had some single VW discs, but this made me get the complete symphonies
	4:50pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica" by "Sheila ... you know what, I don't have this VW piece...
	4:50pm doctorjazz: Doug has said on his show he'd like to get more classical programming on.
	4:51pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @4:50 Maybe I'll have to up the rotation.
	🥁 4:52pm WR: I found the one I have, released about 1971, Sir Adrian Boult conducting, Norma Burrowes featured soprano.
	4:52pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:52 Does yours have the narration?
	4:53pm doctorjazz: Ok, light day at the officer, heading home, thanks Larry!
	4:53pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @4:53 Bye Doc!
	🥁 4:55pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:52 I recall vocals but not narration. The organ part (like we are hearing now) is particularly powerful.
	4:55pm Funky16Corners: Man, that gong, and then the pipe organ!?!?
	4:57pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:55 There are apparently several recordings with the narration by they are in the minority: en.wikipedia.org...
	4:57pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:55 same thoughts!
	🥁 4:58pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:51 I gots an idea. Find a time that works for you and Doug, and maybe can get Bethany to do once a month and then someone else to steps up or rotating guest host, Little Danny others, might seed some more programmers to come forward.
	4:59pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:58 A classical show with rotating hosts is a great idea!
	5:00pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:59 some might say the idea is too contemporary....
	5:01pm still b/p: You may have mentioned this, too, but in addition to the cartoon, advertising and background general exposure, there are many interesting instances of popular songs involving adaptation, reimagining, sampling of classical pieces across several recent decades -- performed by Elvis, Manilow, Carmen, Gaga, Nas, Beatles -- many more.
	5:02pm Erica: Well I made it through the first half of the show. Only 2 more hours to go.
	🥁 5:02pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:59 Can get some active listeners to program one here or there. Would like to hear what Dean would put together for his fellow listeners.
	🥁 5:02pm Brian in UK: Well you could always play the music backwards. Some numbnuts might say it sounds better that way!!
	5:02pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @5:01 Upthread I posted a link to a show I did in 2019 composed of all adaptations of classical themes in pop/rock/jazz
	5:03pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @5:02 Well done. Erica! Hang in there!
	5:03pm Erica: ↳ still b/p @5:01 And let's not forget about library production music. That is also used for the same reasons as classical and popular music.
	5:03pm timinoak: I'm very new to this program. But I love classical music, and appreciate learning more about it like this..
	5:04pm northguineahills: ↳ still b/p @5:01 it's still your bd, bp?
	🥁 5:05pm Brian in UK: Larry, this is great but I don't hear a single.
	🥁 5:05pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:57 Now the recordings with narration are on my want list, particularly both the John Gielgud and Ralph Richardson recordings.
	5:05pm northguineahills: ↳ Erica @5:03 Flash Strap goes on deep dives into library music counts on fingers on Thursdays right after Larry!
	5:05pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @5:05 I'm releasing it on a 42 minute 7-inch. Very tight grooves
	5:06pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @5:05 I think the one I heard was Geilgud.
	🥁 5:07pm Brian in UK: DJ Georgy Girl's show Wednesday plays library music combined with readings. wfmu.org...
	5:09pm northguineahills: i once saw a dj w/ 24" records. I believe they were originally used to be played for films at some point....(in fact, dj olive has a pic of himself w/ one on his fb page)
	🥁 5:10pm Brian in UK: Larry, notice that these are all CDs. Records do show up any clicks especially on quieter music.
	5:12pm Erica: ↳ Brian in UK @5:07 Yesterday's show or next week' s show?
	🥁 5:12pm WR: ↳ Erica @5:03 Yep, yep, Explorer's Room, Thursdays 7PM to 10PM ET, features production library music about every 6 weeks or so and has some sprinkled regularly into the free form episodes, and as Brian mentions, Hi-Waisted Modernist on the Sheena stream every Wednesday afternoon, and of course any time you want from the archive. Great literature with great variety of production library music.
	5:12pm βrian: ↳ Song: "Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica" by "Sheila ... Well, the power drill was an interesting effect.
	🥁 5:12pm Brian in UK: ↳ Erica @5:12 Every week.
	5:13pm Erica: ↳ Brian in UK @5:12 Need to check it out.
	🥁 5:15pm Brian in UK: ↳ Erica @5:13 Georgy reads a good story.
	🥁 5:15pm Brian in UK: Freddy D is in the house.
	5:16pm StringOFperils: Dee-Lee Money
	5:17pm northguineahills: well, delius did spend two years in FL, before it went full derp...
	5:18pm Funky16Corners: Yes, this was written about his impressions of the area during his time (no kidding) managing an orange grove!
	5:18pm Little Danny: Hehe NGH was wondering if this was your Florida experience :)
	🥁 5:19pm WR: ↳ Song: "Delius - Florida Suite - Daybreak/By the River/Su... Don't remember hearing this before. Bright and sunny sounding, literally.
	5:20pm northguineahills: errr, 'managing' an orange grove (by all accounts, not too interested in managing)
	5:21pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:20 If your calling is composing music, I suspect that working with oranges isn't too inspiring
	🥁 5:24pm Brian in UK: There is certainly a case for a 'classical' music show that debugs the idea of it being all the same & stiff-shirted.
	5:25pm northguineahills: there's a plaque near the duval county/st johns county line near the st john's river commemorating where his house used to be. (now part of jacksonville, and very suburban, used to be semi-rural/suburban when I was growing up, been there).
	5:26pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:25 I expect that DeSantis will be uprooting it as soon as he can?
	5:26pm northguineahills: ↳ Brian in UK @5:24 i prefer my shirts to remain well-starched and stiff, thank you very much!
	5:26pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @5:24 Agreed
	🥁 5:27pm Brian in UK: ↳ northguineahills @5:26 ....and wing-collared?
	5:27pm Marie: Back. I like these kind of pastoral pieces. It's like you're slowly moving through a landscape
	5:27pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:26 seeing his attempt at erasing history that doesn't fit his narrative, who knows...
	5:28pm northguineahills: ↳ Brian in UK @5:27 the flappy kind, naturally...
	5:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:27 It's amazing that a composer can elicit that kind of response just with a series of tones. You can feel it.
	🥁 5:29pm Brian in UK: To probably misquote Bowie. A frock coat & bibbity bobbity hat.
	5:29pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:28 Truly
	5:30pm Marie: I think I might have been trained to by certain movies but nonetheless it is so natural to me to feel it that way
	5:30pm northguineahills: i'll let marie dish out the polemics on death$antis. i....just... can't... anymore (i live w/it every day).
	🥁 5:31pm Brian in UK: Larry, love what you are playing but Delius, sorry Morpheus, is calling & I cannot resist the tune.
	5:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:30 I can't even imagine. We lived under Christie but he's a rank amateur in fascism compared to DeSantis.
	5:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @5:31 Nighty nite, Brian!
	5:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Brian in UK @5:31 gute nacht!
	5:32pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @5:30 Ha ha ha. I heard DeSantis is like Trump but totally dull (as a speaker, etc.). Not nearly the "entertainer" that Donald is/was
	5:32pm Funky16Corners: The repeated theme in this section reminds me of Beethoven, but also one of the songs from the musical 1776
	5:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:31 christie is a damn pinko in comparison...
	5:33pm Marie: @Larry--your governor seems so angry
	5:33pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:32 the problem is desantis is actually more competent (not very, but it doesn't take much to be effective w/ the GQP)
	5:34pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:33 Trump is a rabid carnival barker. DeSantis knows how to pull the levers of power and is doing some truly alarming things in Florida.
	5:35pm Marie: I'm just glad that a lot of these right wing freakazoid supporters are older and might not be around that much longer (not a nice sentiment, I know)
	5:35pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:33 He's not our governor any more, thank god. The guy we have now is a happy sort,
	5:35pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:35 You live in Texas, right?
	5:35pm northguineahills: i live in an economically depressed community of color. I'm at the shelter every day seeing how the GOPs policies effect real people every day. I'm developing empathy fatigue, and i feel guilty about that.
	5:36pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:35 New Jersey
	5:36pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:35 It's totally understandable, especially considering the glee the GOP takes in grinding people under their boots
	5:36pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:36 Oh, did you used to live in Texas? I like Governor Murphy--I like his policies
	5:36pm northguineahills: New Jersey, the Texas of New Jersey....
	5:37pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:36 Nope, lifelong NJ-ite
	5:38pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @5:35 It makes me sick how they treat people and have for many years. The southern states that rejected the expansion of Medicare (or was it Medicaid?)
	5:38pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:36 The part of NJ I live in is HEAVILY MAGA. Trucknuts and Confederate flags as far as the eye can see
	5:38pm northguineahills: a piney? (I have an aunt and uncle that live in Bridgetown)
	5:39pm Marie: I had a dentist who I loved and he said it's as if the Republicans like to take things away from people.
	5:39pm Erica: ↳ Marie @5:36 What I don't like about Murphy is that he put a ban on plastic bags and foam cups/plates. I keep forgetting to bring a reusable bag in stores except for Walmart.
	5:39pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:38 In Ocean County, on the northern border of pineyland
	5:39pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:38 both. at no cost to themselves...(florida didn't touch medicare, can't w/ all of the retirees).
	5:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @5:39 It is a pain in the ass, but even I'm learning to carry reusable shopping bags
	5:40pm Marie: ↳ Erica @5:39 Just stick one in your car trunk or backpack... I eventually did.
	5:40pm Funky16Corners: Though I was never not hate paper straws
	5:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:39 It's pure cruelty
	5:41pm northguineahills: People look at me like I have three heads when I show up at stores w/ reusable bags. Or, they make me leave them at the front to prevent shoplifting....(depends how I'm dressed that day)
	5:41pm Erica: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:40 I used reuse plastic bags as waste bin bags to save money on trash bags but not anymore cause they're bad for the environment.
	5:41pm Marie: @Larry--there was a DJ on the drummer stream who broadcast from the area of Texas where LBJ grew up, the hill country... I thought it was you. I will have to figure that out
	5:41pm Erica: ↳ Erica @5:41 That's why they're banned.
	5:42pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:41 Little Danny used to live down there, Kris Holmes does now
	5:42pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:42 Yes!!!! My apologies. Thank you for that
	5:42pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:41 Kris is in San Antonio. LC is in Marfa, as was LD, and Desert Fox (DF is in Austin and LD is in Philly)
	5:43pm northguineahills: ↳ northguineahills @5:42 why yes, I do stalk all of the GTDS djs, why do you ask?
	5:44pm Marie: ↳ Erica @5:41 You can get great reusable heavy weight plastic grocery bags for cheap at Trader Joes--get a few and throw em in your trunk--problem solved? @)
	5:44pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:43 We're so charismatic it's hard to resist...
	5:45pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:44 We have a bunch of TJs bags, and when we get out Peapod (grocery delivery) they bring everything in reusable bags. We keep a few and give the rest to the food pantry
	5:45pm Erica: ↳ Marie @5:44 I don't live near Trader Joe's. Plus we get them at Walmart.
	5:45pm Marie: This is very soothing
	5:46pm Marie: ↳ Erica @5:45 you get reusable bags at Walmart?
	5:46pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:45 Yes, a very relaxing piece
	5:47pm Erica: ↳ Marie @5:46 Yes both trash bags and shopping bags.
	5:48pm northguineahills: thanks, Larry, been working on a problem for school for 2.5 days, and I just now fixed it....
	5:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:48 Glad I could help!
	5:50pm Marie: I don't know a lot about classical music but I know I like Saint Saens. And I got a great album a long time ago of Benny Goodman and band playing Mozart--heavy on the flute--I still love it
	5:51pm northguineahills: oh, fudruckers. they got the new servers and monitors in. Guess what I need to do at the shelter before i go out. Install a new security system, and test the servers and software......(still easier then what I used to do there).
	5:52pm northguineahills: Delius's family were in the wool business. Delius wanted no part in it. His father got him a job via connections to manage the orange grove. Delius saw as a way to get out of his father's hair...
	5:53pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:50 oh, hit me an email later, I need to leave...
	5:54pm northguineahills: camille saint saens, another continental composer not recognized at home but celebrated in Britain...
	5:55pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:52 Thanks, NGH!
	5:55pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:54 Saint-Saens coming up next!
	5:59pm timinoak: ↳ Song: "Appalachian Spring [Orchestral Suite]" by "Aaron ... Oh, life..
	6:03pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:55 I think i got into Saint-Saens when I went to Epcot when I was 8 and the France exhibit played his Symphony No. 3 organ it's surround image -pre-Imax film....
	6:04pm Funky16Corners: ↳ timinoak @5:59 Copland hits me right in the feels.
	6:08pm StringOFperils: Copeland has all the great Richard Strauss orchestral textures, the writing for large orchestra with the giant string section. Very emotive and lofty
	6:12pm doctorjazz: Made it home, got you on again!
	6:12pm Funky16Corners: Welcome back!
	6:13pm Funky16Corners: And now the Shaker hymn...
	6:14pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @6:08 Yes, and I love the way he uses brass, too
	6:14pm StringOFperils: And percussion!
	6:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Appalachian Spring [Orchestral Suite]" by "Aaron ... This was great! (just caught up with comments)
	6:25pm northguineahills: at the top of my browser, all I saw was, "Suite]" by "Aaron ..." and I thought, "I did what?"
	6:26pm StringOFperils: Crushing it at the piano
	6:26pm Funky16Corners: This is the tortoises dancing the can-can, very slowly
	6:27pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @6:26 ...w/ the pointer sisters?
	6:28pm Funky16Corners: Elephants!
	6:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @6:27 They wish...
	6:28pm doctorjazz: From earlier, there was a question of whether Republican states were not providing medicare or medicaid. My understanding is that it's the expansion of Medicaid that Republican states have refused to do. It was part of the Affordable Care Act, and expanding Medicaid (covering more people, medical bills) is funded by the Federal Government, would benefit many in these states, and not cost them anything as the Feds would pay for it. Nonetheless, Red states have refused to do it, basically to avoid giving the Federal Government/Democrats any "bragging rights". Or, another way to look at it is, "if they're for it, we're against it"
	6:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @6:28 Helluva way for a major political party to operate
	🥁 6:29pm WR: ↳ Song: "Saint-Saens - Carnival of the Animals" by "Serge ... Was not aware of Saint- Saens suppressing this piece. Wikipedia entry: "The work, about 25 minutes in duration, was written for private performance by two pianos and chamber ensemble; Saint-Saëns prohibited public performance of the work during his lifetime, feeling that its frivolity would damage his standing as a serious composer."
	6:29pm StringOFperils: Bowed bass vile. Junk in the trunk.
	6:29pm Funky16Corners: Kangaroos...
	6:30pm Funky16Corners: The fishies!
	6:30pm Funky16Corners: Also, isn't this in Harry Potter or something like that?
	6:30pm Erica: Ooh I feel like I'm at Hogwarts.
	6:31pm StringOFperils: This kind of musical effect has been reused in a million movies since when this was composed.
	6:32pm Funky16Corners: Animals with long ears...
	6:32pm StringOFperils: And this is like PSYCHO
	6:33pm Funky16Corners: The Cuckoo in the Depths of the Woods
	🥁 6:33pm WR: Larry, you could be doing the narration, introducing the beasties.
	6:34pm Funky16Corners: I'm waiting for Hans Conreid to come back
	6:34pm Funky16Corners: And now, the rest of the aviary...
	6:36pm Funky16Corners: The Pianists (making fun of pianists as "animals")
	6:37pm Funky16Corners: The Fossils...
	6:38pm Funky16Corners: The swan...
	🥁 6:40pm WR: Have been listening via headphones, and this recording, particularly the last section, is very stereo.
	6:40pm Andrew in Toronto: That was a truly great show! Thanks Larry!
	6:41pm Funky16Corners: Here comes the finale!
	6:41pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:40 Thanks, Andrew! More to come!
	6:41pm Funky16Corners: Here's aWiki breaking down the allusions in the Carnival of the Animals: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:43pm doctorjazz: This Allegro is famous from some TV or Movie or something.
	6:43pm Dean: Damn, I've missed some great music! Lynn Harrell! Saw him live at the John Anson Ford Theater, an outdoor amphitheater, in LA. The Beecham Florida Suite is one of my favorite recordings of all time! Vaughan Williams...sigh. I have that Anatartica in a complete symphonies and orchestral works box with Haitink.
	6:43pm Little Danny: thank you larry :)
	6:45pm Little Danny: dean i almost texted you this week with a specific classical question but then i got too shy :/
	6:45pm Dean: My favorite Water Music might be the Delos recording with Gerard Schwarz conducting LA Chamber orchestra.
	6:45pm Little Danny: larry btw i walked up the endless hills of manayunk listening to you play delius :)
	6:45pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Dean @6:43 Hey Dean! I think that's the Vaughan Williams set I have
	6:46pm Dean: Oh, shoot, I wish you had! But don't text me. I don't receive texts, by design. Call/email/postcard/semaphore/homing pigeon are all fine.
	6:46pm Erica: I heard that Fantasia 2000 flopped at the box office and it was what ended the Disney Renaissance.
	6:46pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @6:45 That is an image to be treasured!
	6:46pm Flash Strap: Hey there Larry! LD! everyone!
	6:47pm Funky16Corners: Hey Flash! Stay tuned for Explorers Room at 7PM ET: wfmu.org...
	6:48pm Doug Schulkind: What a treat, Larry. You really are incredible.
	6:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @6:46 It may well have. It's also fairly short, but I think well done
	6:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Doug Schulkind @6:48 Hey Doug! Thanks very much!
	6:49pm Dean: This is the Delius box I have: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/i84AAOSw1Dlghu0z/s-l640.jpg But I have fond memories of checking out the Seraphim reissue of the album from my public library many, many years ago.
	6:49pm doctorjazz: Thanks, Larry, wonderful show!
	6:50pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @6:49 Thanks Doc!
	6:50pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Dean @6:49 My set looks different but I think it might be the same recordings
	6:51pm Funky16Corners: For all you Tyler Perry fans, this is about MEDEA, not MADEA...
	6:51pm Funky16Corners: Or, who knows, this is the part where she takes off her shoe and starts hitting someone
	6:51pm Erica: ↳ Funky16Corners @6:51 Hahaha 😂
	6:52pm Little Danny: haha YES larry
	6:52pm Funky16Corners: Wow, I thought I had shorted things, but this is going to take us almost all the way to the end.
	6:53pm Erica: Nothing beats Telemann when I thought you were talking about Telemann the indie band lol
	6:53pm Erica: ↳ Erica @6:53 Teleman with one n
	6:54pm Funky16Corners: This reminds me a little of the Planet of the Apes soundtrack
	6:55pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @6:53 Thanks for sticking around for the whole show, Erica!
	6:56pm Dean: Telemann?! Now you're talking. I have long adored Telemann, the dead German guy, and not least because Jim Svejda at KUSC in LA used to devote entire shows to his music. He despised Telemann's music pretty much for the same reasons I adore it: much of it is bland, and there's too much of it, but there's something to me that's comforting about a reliable source of pleasant music that often surprises with its inventiveness. I love playing Telemann on recorder. But the guy wrote more than Bach and Haendel combined!
	6:57pm northguineahills: back for 3 mins, can't miss Barber!
	6:58pm Dean: One of my favorite records is a beat-up used LP I acquired for $0.25, random Telemann chamber pieces. The cover features a painting by...Degas. WTF?!
	6:58pm Flash Strap: Great show Larry! catch me next door: wfmu.org...
	🥁 6:58pm Yvang: Really refreshing to hear some classical music once in a while. I want more classical and orchestral on WFMU. Thanks Larry!
	6:58pm Erica: That last hour went by fast. Great four hour show Larry. Gotta get my money ready for the marathon next week.
	6:58pm Dean: Seconded, Yvang!
	6:58pm Funky16Corners: Thank you all for listening and joining the discussion!
	🥁 6:59pm WR: Thank you! Larry! Yes, a regular show, and can start with one with rotating hosts.

Testify! with Larry Grogan: Playlist from March 2, 2023

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A roadmap that reveals the highways, byways, ley lines and subterranean tunnels connecting rock, soul, pop, folk rock, R&B, garage, punk, funk, jazz, world music, and soundtracks from the twilight of the 1950s to the dawn of the 1970s. Larry Grogan is a DJ, writer, podcaster, collector, and the man behind Funky16Corners.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Approx. start time
Funky16Corners	Testify! Intro "Testify! Intro" by "Funky16Corners"	Best of Funky16Corners Volume One	Funky16Corners	2017	MP3	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Radu Lupu	Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique	Beethoven Favorite Piano Sonatas	Decca	1973	CD	0:01:25 (Pop-up)

Lynn Harrell/James Levine/London Symphony	Dvorak Cello Concerto In B Minor Op104	Dvorak/Schubert	RCA	1987	CD	0:27:58 (Pop-up)

Neville Marriner/Academy of St Martin in the Fields	Handel - Water Music Suite #2	Handel - Fireworks and Water Music	Argo	1972	CD	1:14:55 (Pop-up)

Sheila Armstrong/Bernard Haitink/London Philharmonic Orchestra and Choir	Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica	Vaughan Williams Complete Symphonies/Orchestra Works	EMI	1952	CD	1:30:08 (Pop-up)

Sir Thomas Beecham	Delius - Florida Suite - Daybreak/By the River/Sunset/At Night	Delius Complete Symphonies	EMI	1960	CD	2:15:21 (Pop-up)

Aaron Copland/London Symphony	Appalachian Spring [Orchestral Suite]	Copland Conducts Copland (Expanded Edition)	Columbia	1970	CD	2:54:56 (Pop-up)

Serge Baudo/Orchestra de Paris	Saint-Saens - Carnival of the Animals	Saint-Saens Concertos	EMI	2004	CD	3:22:32 (Pop-up)

Thomas Schippers/NY Philharmonic	Samuel Barber - Medea's Meditation and Dance of Vengeance	Heritage Barber	Sony Classical	1965	CD	3:44:56 (Pop-up)

Rex Garvin and the Mighty Cravers	I Gotta Go Now (Up On the Floor)	45RPM Single	Like	1966	45	3:58:25 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 3:00pm Yvang: Hi Larry! Ready to testify and let's get classical!
	3:00pm Funky16Corners: Hey Yvang!
	3:01pm Phillippe: howdy
	3:01pm Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Larry and all other listeners!
	3:01pm Funky16Corners: Phillippe! Andrew!
	3:01pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Phillippe @3:01 Hi Phillippe!
	3:02pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Yvang @3:00 Hi Yvang!
	🥁 3:03pm Yvang: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:02 Andrew! Hi!
	3:05pm Erica: Hi Larry I made it
	3:05pm Funky16Corners: I'll go into it during the break, but this piece of music, especially the second section, has had a surprisingly long life.
	3:05pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @3:05 Hi Erica!
	🥁 3:05pm WR: ↳ Song: "Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique"... Lovely but certainly unexpected.
	3:06pm doctorjazz: My, we're CLASSY today! (Not that you aren't otherwise...)
	3:06pm Funky16Corners: Hey WR! All classical today!
	3:06pm Funky16Corners: Hey Doc!
	3:06pm Erica: Not sure if I can handle 4 hours of classical music but I will try to hang in there.
	3:06pm still b/p: You know what Beethoven had? Family troubles! Heard a bit about that recently. Why is that the feature of life shared more widely among us than artistic genius, huh?
	3:07pm doctorjazz: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:06 Doug out those Shady Dogs, Mercs, etc!
	3:07pm Marie: I am up for this, very intrigued. Hi Larry, hi all! Sometimes I really get into classical music
	3:07pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @3:07 Hiya doc!
	3:07pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:06 Hey sbp! I was reading biographical info on some of today's featured composers and learning some surprising things.
	3:08pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @3:07 Hi Marie!
	3:08pm TDK60: Larry! I dig the classics. Led Zep, Boston, that stuff.
	3:08pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @3:08 When Mozart's Levee Breaks, coming up next!
	3:10pm doctorjazz: Gives you more time to breath between recordings...
	3:10pm Funky16Corners: I shouldn't have been surprised, but when reading about this piece I discovered that Beethoven was also well-known as a skilled pianist, which he must have been to compose this (among other pieces)
	🥁 3:11pm Mxter Baba: Beethoven was such a drama queen! Hey, Larry and folx!
	3:11pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:10 It's funny, I think the longest non-classical piece that I've played is a 23 minute Pink Floyd track, which seemed extremely long.
	3:12pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:11 Hey Baba!
	3:12pm Phillippe: hey Andrew!
	3:12pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:11 Hi baba!
	🥁 3:13pm Mxter Baba: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:12 Hello there!
	3:13pm Erica: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:11 Yeah Beethoven wasn't so great lol. Just don't tell Schroeder that
	3:13pm Phillippe: mxter!
	3:13pm doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:07 Hi Andrew
	3:13pm CupcakeJenny: Hello Testifiers!
	3:14pm Funky16Corners: ↳ CupcakeJenny @3:13 Hey Jenny!
	3:14pm Erica: ↳ CupcakeJenny @3:13 Hi Jenny!
	3:14pm Funky16Corners: Though there are a few challenging pieces in today's program, this should provide an opportunity to chill out and let the music take you away.
	3:14pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique"... Man, GORGEOUS!!!
	🥁 3:14pm Mxter Baba: ↳ Erica @3:13 LOL!!!
	🥁 3:15pm Mxter Baba: ↳ Phillippe @3:13 Phillippekins! I hope you are as well as can be!
	🥁 3:15pm WR: ↳ Song: "Beethoven Piano Sonata 8 In C Minor - Pathetique"... This Radu dude haz gotz sklzs.
	3:15pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:14 This is one of those pieces that is genuinely moving.
	3:16pm CupcakeJenny: Hi Erica! How are you?
	3:16pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @3:15 Wait'll he turns the piano over and sets it on fire...
	🥁 3:16pm Mxter Baba: ↳ WR @3:15 OMX 😹
	🥁 3:17pm WR: ↳ Mxter Baba @3:16 Mxter Babakins, right?
	3:19pm TDK60: There was a long-running public radio syndicated show "Adventures in Good Music" with Karl Haa, that used the segment of the last few moments for its theme music.
	🥁 3:19pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:16 He's bringing 🔥 an inner burn to those who are receptive.
	3:20pm TDK60: ↳ TDK60 @3:19 Sorry, Haas. It went from 1970 to 2007. en.wikipedia.org...
	🥁 3:22pm Mxter Baba: ↳ WR @3:19 O I thot wuz hot flash
	3:26pm northguineahills: ↳ TDK60 @3:20 haa!
	🥁 3:27pm WR: ↳ TDK60 @3:20 Yes, listened to Haas somewhat regularly sometime in the past.
	3:27pm Sem: Love, love, love all of this.
	3:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @3:26 Hey NGH!
	3:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Sem @3:27 Hi Sem!
	3:28pm Marie: I think my first and almost only exposure to classical was in old movies (musicals) and in doctor's waiting rooms (and radio dial turning). Then I started listening to it when I studied in college (cuz it was the only music I could listen to while studying)
	3:28pm northguineahills: in the middle of a lab, so no instructor, so, i can listen...
	3:29pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @3:28 The extent to which most people encounter classical music as "background" cannot be underestimated.
	3:29pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @3:28 I think you could let today's program run in most spaces without objection.
	3:31pm doctorjazz: ↳ WR @3:19 No LP's? (No matter...)
	3:31pm Marie: I think they might use a lot classical in old Westerns too, where I think it is great
	3:31pm Funky16Corners: All the Czechs put your hands in the air!
	3:31pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @3:28 i literally can't study w/o music (my adhd gets the best of me). It can be any music, any genre (not distracted by lyrics, as i don't hear them anyways). it forms a constant aural background for my lateral portions of my brain to focus on, so I can study the work at hand...
	3:32pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:31 The majority of my classical collection is on CD. I do have a bunch of modern stuff on LP that I should dig out for the next go round
	3:32pm still b/p: Always interesting when I get a closer encounter whether via a movie theater's sound system or better yet in the audience of a live orchestra, and the brain pays a fuller degree of attention and the whole body says, "Hey, daaaaaamn!"
	3:32pm Andrew in Toronto: Wayne Shorter R.I.P.
	3:32pm Erica: Yeah. Classical music is for those who study for exams and for people who really love music and want to learn how to play an instrument
	3:32pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @3:31 Very interesting. I bet a lot of people/students with ADHD could benefit from doing that too
	3:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:32 The majority of my classical is on LP (probably b/c I got it cheap used)
	3:32pm Erica: At least that is how I see it.
	3:33pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:32 It's funny, one of those Facebook things about you best concerts was going around and all of my most recent live concerts have been classical events
	3:33pm doctorjazz: ↳ northguineahills @3:31 I'm the same, have music on all thetime (to my wife's consternation, though I think she's adjusting, as long as it's not free jazz or similar...)
	3:33pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @3:32 then again, music is where my brain gets very ocd w/o me being conscious of it.
	3:33pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:32 I saw that. I think he was ill for a while. One of the great "young lions" who bridged hard bop right on into fusion
	3:34pm northguineahills: ocd is the wrong term, but very particular in obsessing over every detail...
	3:35pm doctorjazz: Have a bunch of RCA Shaded Dogs, Mercury Living Presence, and other LP's from the 60s (cause I'm an obsessive)
	🥁 3:35pm WR: A quote from NPR attributed to Shorter, "The six years I was with Miles we never talked about music," Shorter told NPR in 2013. "Miles, on his table, he had scores of Koussevitzky, the conductor ... and then he had another book on architecture and another book on law. Just sitting on the table. And then he'd talk about clothes and fashion."
	3:35pm Funky16Corners: Is there a more sonorous instrument than the cello?
	3:35pm StringOFperils: I think classical music is for everybody, and shouldn't put anyone off. Most of it's not really 'about' anything, so it's a kind of pure world of sound, that a listener can get lost in it and be taken somewhere if they allow it. It's full of all kinds of things for everyone.
	3:36pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @3:35 Agree 100%
	3:36pm northguineahills: now keeping my physical musical media and books indexed very particularly, i am ocd...
	3:37pm Sem: ↳ StringOFperils @3:35 Just so, well put.
	🥁 3:37pm WLSClark: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:10 This comment just made Beethoven roll over! (laughing, that is)
	🥁 3:38pm WR: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:32 Thank you for the headline, Andrew iT.
	3:38pm Marie: I'm lovin' this
	3:38pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WLSClark @3:37 Hey Clark!
	3:38pm Erica: ↳ StringOFperils @3:35 It should be for everyone but not everyone is interested in this kind of music.
	🥁 3:38pm WLSClark: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:11 This is NOT funny. Beethoven's piece would be 10x as good as a 23 minute PF song ever would be. And I'm not a classical music guy (except for Classical gas)
	3:40pm still b/p: One of the earliest face-full-of-classical-music encounters? Disney's "Fantasia" (the original) at the movies with 6th grade class. Of course had the Peter and the Wolf thing on record at home when younger than that.
	3:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @3:38 I think the point is they ought to be. People are programmed by various cultural forces to look at classical music as daunting, where they ought to be taught in school that it has everything to offer (aside from pulsing electronic bass) that all music does.
	3:41pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:40 It's interesting how much kids of my generation (born in 1962) had classical music presented in many kid-friendly forms, like Peter and the Wolf, Fantasia etc
	🥁 3:42pm WLSClark: ↳ Erica @3:38 To be honest, Erica, I am with you. Haven't even put sound on. it IS soothing, but just got up from a nap, so don't need more sleep right now. I guess he was "before my time." haha
	3:42pm TDK60: I listen to a lot of classical. Old LPs left by my dad. Newish stuff from the public library. I'm lucky to have the public library at Lincoln Center with tons of CDs. Radio, etc.
	3:42pm doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:32 So sorry to hear that-another giant gone (glad I got to see him at NJPAC a few years back).
	3:42pm timinoak: Loving this show! Thank you.
	3:42pm Funky16Corners: We had a Mattel thing called a Show and Tell, that was kind of home filmstrip projector that had a turntable on top and a slide projector in the side. The cool thing for me was that all of the flipsides of the story records were classical pieces, that had been used in the stories as backing music
	3:43pm Funky16Corners: ↳ timinoak @3:42 Thanks timinoak!
	🥁 3:44pm WLSClark: ↳ WLSClark @3:42 I DO love some of PDQ Bach (like his "On the Air" LP!
	3:44pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @3:35 I also got most of them when people were dumping LP's for "perfect sound forever" cds at bargain prices (at least compared to today...)
	3:45pm TDK60: I tend to like the newer classical: early 20th Century up to the 21st. From Debussy and Stravinsky on up.
	3:45pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @3:44 I've been able to add a tone of classical stuff to my collection buying used CDs on the cheap.
	3:46pm Andrew in Toronto: ↳ WLSClark @3:44 Hi Clark!
	3:46pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @3:45 Big favorites of mine, too. You'll hear Vaughan Williams, Delius and Copland today. I have to get out my Milhaud and Stravinsky for the next time
	🥁 3:47pm WLSClark: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @3:46 Hi Andrew.
	🥁 3:48pm WLSClark: I like Ennio Morricone western music. Would it be classical. ALSO, I DID by Tomita's Snowflakes are Dancing and Switched on Back when they came out.
	3:50pm Funky16Corners: Back in 2019 I did a show of pop/rock music based on classical themes. If I do that again there will def be some Tomita in it: wfmu.org...
	3:50pm doctorjazz: I haven't gone to much in the way of NY/NJ classical music concerts in a while, but i often vacation in The Berkshires during the sheet, love me some Classical Tanglewood, lie down on the lawn, heaven...
	🥁 3:50pm WR: Few months ago read a book about Dvorak's and some other leading composers and critics of the time expectation that African American and Native American cultures would be a major source of inspiration and direction of American culture but we ended up with Copeland and Bernstein instead. Covered the many composers that did the work but were shunned by the classical music "establishment " and how even Gershwin and Ives were not allowed into the standard repertoire the way Copeland was. wwnorton.com...
	3:51pm TDK60: Larry, I really dig Vaughan Williams. A bit old-fashioned, but not his later symphonies. He really knew how to grab you.
	3:51pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @3:51 Wait'll you hear the piece I'm playing today.
	3:51pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:42 I have a lot of those pickwick recs
	3:51pm still b/p: How 'bout the whole Mozart for Babies thing, for stimulating brain development. Later the expert view was, "Well, mayyyybe, but not proven." And speaking of brain effects, the Rite of Spring debut and the crowd gone into wild disturbance! (Provoked by music or choreography, or both? Disputed.) I heard some academic say the sounds were so alien to those brains that they could only pitch a fit in agitated response.
	3:52pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @3:50 Ives is a big favorite of my father's. The man spent his life as an insurance actuary.
	🥁 3:52pm WR: ↳ WLSClark @3:48 Yes, Clark, agreed, all good music to my ears too.
	3:52pm StringOFperils: This kind of music comes from older music that evolved out of everyday life and nature, and gradually became its own specialized pursuit. Probably because it remains in wholly abstract form, it isn't as broadly popular as something written in repetitive verses or stanzas that have lyrics that can be thought to be about something tangible. Sex and desire, most of the time. Or topical material like the news. That way a person can listen to music and still be thinking, instead not thinking (shocking!) and being purely transported, which takes a conscious choice, and some dedication. Like attentively reading a sprawling novel.
	3:53pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @3:51 Apparently the reaction to Nijinsky's ballet of Debussy's Afternoon of a Faun evoked a similar negative reaction.
	3:53pm doctorjazz: ↳ doctorjazz @3:50 *during the summer, ahem...
	3:54pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @3:52 I was reading about Saint-Saen's Carnival of the Animals, and it's apparently filed with sample-like references to other music/composers, the vast majority of which I had no idea about
	3:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ StringOFperils @3:52 It's a kind of meditation, to me...
	3:56pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:54 I read that too (see also Bartok in taking folk themes)
	3:57pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @3:56 Bartok, Smetana, Vaughan Williams, Copland and on and on
	🥁 3:58pm WR: From Wikipedia about the cellist: " Harrell seldom trusted his instruments to airline baggage handlers and in 2012 he achieved a certain amount of notoriety when Delta Air Lines kicked him out of its frequent-flier program for registering and traveling with his cello, which had been enrolled as “Mr. Cello Harrell.”
	3:59pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @3:58 I like his style!
	4:00pm TDK60: I'm a fan of moderns like Henry Cowell, Lou Harrison.
	4:00pm Funky16Corners: I wouldn't trust them either. Those instruments are worth in the tens of thousands of dollars (if not more)
	4:00pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @4:00 I need to explore modern composers more
	🥁 4:01pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:59 If he was buying a ticket for Mr Cello, Mr Cello should get the frequent flyer points, right.
	🥁 4:01pm Brian in UK: Hello Larry. Great idea especially for a long show.
	4:01pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @4:01 Hi Brian!
	4:01pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:01 The cello could take its own vacations
	🥁 4:02pm Brian in UK: Remember the first time I heard Bach's Cello Suites played by Pablo Casals. Mesmerising.
	🥁 4:02pm David Shortell: gocomics.com...
	4:03pm StringOFperils: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:54 Composers throw in 'quotes' fairly often, and sometimes they hide other things. Little codes. Writing music IS a code.
	4:04pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @4:02 I have a collection of Bach cello music by Janos Starker
	4:04pm Marie: Call me a square but I don't like the atonal and what I call maudlin classical music
	4:04pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @4:04 i picture you more of a rhombus...
	4:04pm Funky16Corners: ↳ David Shortell @4:02 Hey David! That's great!
	4:04pm StringOFperils: There's a lot of regional folk music in these themes that Dvorak is using.
	4:06pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @4:04 hee hee hee--I'm actually like totally elliptical
	4:07pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @4:06 bi-axial, I can see that (due to school, all I can see right now is geometry)
	4:08pm TDK60: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:00 Larry, those two were among the first Americans to look west across to Asia for inspiration. Also the Canadian Colin McPhee.
	4:10pm still b/p: Worked with friends in a stage piece several years ago that had spoken poetic text set to original music. Without experience or training or much close previous exposure, trying to get hold of any discernible countable beats in the modern-idiom music was STRAINingly tough for us who needed more standard graspable rhythm. I never did succeed at hearing it.
	🥁 4:10pm David Shortell: ↳ Funky16Corners @3:41 Fantasia? I prefer Bob Clampett's answer film "A Corny Concerto". youtube.com...
	🥁 4:13pm Brian in UK: Larry, agree about the cello.
	4:13pm Erica: ↳ David Shortell @4:10 I once saw Fantasia in music class as a kid. Not sure if was the censored version as it did have a racist scene in it
	4:14pm Erica: ↳ Erica @4:13 I don't remember much of the film.
	4:18pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @4:14 It's a pretty spectacular piece of work, as is Fantasia 2000. There's a DVD set that contains both.
	🥁 4:19pm Yvang: ↳ Song: "Handel - Water Music Suite #2" by "Neville Marrin... That's a perfect piece of music to have in the earbuds while walking through the gardens of Versailles for example.
	4:19pm TDK60: Darnit, I have to leave the building. But definitely, I will come back to see what happened, in the archives. Thanks, Larry!
	4:19pm Funky16Corners: ↳ TDK60 @4:19 Thanks TDK!
	4:21pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Yvang @4:19 It's like CBS Sunday Morning!
	🥁 4:21pm David Shortell: ↳ David Shortell @4:10 “You know, it is so sad. All your knowledge of high culture comes from Bugs Bunny cartoons.” —Elaine Benes to Jerry Seinfeld. youtube.com...
	4:21pm Funky16Corners: ↳ David Shortell @4:21 You could do worse...
	4:22pm Little Danny: hi larry, love your classy side!
	4:22pm drowsy: Nice switch-up Larry, thank you for the show!
	4:23pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @4:22 Hey Danny!
	4:23pm Funky16Corners: ↳ drowsy @4:22 Hi drowsy!
	4:24pm doctorjazz: I just tried to connect with my office computer to The Drummer Stream-it's been blocked for years by the firewall, have to use my phone in a jerryrigged setup. But something went by the wayside in some upgrade or other, it's now allowing me to connect, view the web page, stream. Hmmmm, time to adjust strategies....
	4:25pm StringOFperils: I enjoy finding hours of composed art music interspersed with all the other WFMU offerings. Now and then there's a regular show devoted to it, but things come and go. I feel like there could always be at least one hard-core 'classical' program on the streams without tearing a hole in the fabric of the universe.
	4:25pm Little Danny: Classify :)
	🥁 4:29pm WR: ↳ doctorjazz @4:24 shhhhh. I won't tell if you don't.
	4:30pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @4:24 That's good news!
	4:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @4:25 I like that, Danny!
	🥁 4:31pm dutchtheo: Hey, Larry and classical testifiers. I missed only three songs...
	4:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @4:25 You'd think an enterprise as vast and diverse as WFMU could do that.
	4:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ dutchtheo @4:31 Hey Theo!
	4:32pm Marie: One time, I was in Paris, in a beautiful famous, historic square/garden and a small band was playing 4 seasons and I couldn't help it, I started crying. It was so beautiful and moving. I''m stepping away for a bit--back soon.
	4:32pm Funky16Corners: Prepare yourself, there are sound effects in this piece, though the narration with which it is sometimes presented is absent
	4:32pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @4:32 That's wonderful, Marie.
	4:33pm Little Danny: ↳ TDK60 @4:00 i really like lou harrison's pacifika rondo, Three pieces for gamelan w/soloists, jealousy of emer, i need to dig deeper into his catalog tho!
	4:33pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @4:33 That sounds interesting!
	4:35pm Little Danny: yeah as tdk mentioned, he did a lot with non-western instruments and modes, one of these rabbit holes i keep meaning to fall down!
	4:36pm Little Danny: larry what's your source for classical radio car listening?
	4:37pm Funky16Corners: I listen to the Sirius Classical channel. There used to be two on-air channels and an opera channel, but they cut it back to one in the car and two on the app, one a "pops" channel and the other for longer pieces. It's actually very well programmed.
	4:37pm northguineahills: I admit, I did start collecting classical cds before I even got into music (being a jr high french horn player). I believe Saint-Saens and Vivaldi were my first cds. My usual narrative, is the first music I bought was the Singles sndtk, followed by Dinosaur's Greenmind when I was 16, but I forgot about those two earlier classical cds...
	🥁 4:38pm WR: ↳ StringOFperils @4:25 wfmu.org... There was a regular and fantastic program on the broadcast stream on a weeknight for a while, A440, but the host decided she couldn't continue. She did a drummer stream Stork fill in last summer but demurred from becoming a regular. Bethany will always be welcome to come back. No one else has stepped up. I know Doug would welcome someone.
	4:38pm Funky16Corners: They playa lot of long form choral pieces and operas, too
	4:39pm northguineahills: and done w/ school... waiting for my friend to pick me up from Gainesville to see his darkwave band play. First live music i'll have seen since I was hospitalized 1.5 years ago...
	4:39pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:38 If I didn't have a wife and two kids and the need for food and sleep I'd volunteer to add it to my workload
	4:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @4:39 I cannot remember the last time I saw live music. It may have been the program at NJPAC where they played the Warner Brothers cartoons with a live orchestra
	4:41pm Sem: +++ Larry, thank you for all this.
	4:41pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:39 sleep? I'm living proof you don't need thunk"snoooooore"
	4:41pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Sem @4:41 My pleasure, Sem!
	4:42pm northguineahills: ↳ WR @4:38 back in the before before time, I did a benefit fundraiser w/ Bethany and others (this was before she djed at wfmu, and I was really young)
	4:44pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @4:32 i've cried on the subway platform before. Perfect music, perfect place, perfect timing for me...
	4:44pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @4:44 The first time I heard the Vaughan Williams Tallis piece I was moved to tears.
	4:46pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:18 It's still my favorite Disney film. I saw it first in the theaters when I was 8 (must have been a reprint)... all the movies since have been crap! (ok, I get a little tired of the mouse down here)>
	🥁 4:46pm WR: ↳ Song: "Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica" by "Sheila ... This used to be one of my goto recordings to listen to. Now gotta look up to see what recording I have, it was on Angel records, which could be this EMI recording, but I think it was more recent than 1952. Looking it up now.
	4:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:46 It's a wild piece. Another one I heard on the radio first. I had some single VW discs, but this made me get the complete symphonies
	4:50pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica" by "Sheila ... you know what, I don't have this VW piece...
	4:50pm doctorjazz: Doug has said on his show he'd like to get more classical programming on.
	4:51pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @4:50 Maybe I'll have to up the rotation.
	🥁 4:52pm WR: I found the one I have, released about 1971, Sir Adrian Boult conducting, Norma Burrowes featured soprano.
	4:52pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:52 Does yours have the narration?
	4:53pm doctorjazz: Ok, light day at the officer, heading home, thanks Larry!
	4:53pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @4:53 Bye Doc!
	🥁 4:55pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:52 I recall vocals but not narration. The organ part (like we are hearing now) is particularly powerful.
	4:55pm Funky16Corners: Man, that gong, and then the pipe organ!?!?
	4:57pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:55 There are apparently several recordings with the narration by they are in the minority: en.wikipedia.org...
	4:57pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:55 same thoughts!
	🥁 4:58pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:51 I gots an idea. Find a time that works for you and Doug, and maybe can get Bethany to do once a month and then someone else to steps up or rotating guest host, Little Danny others, might seed some more programmers to come forward.
	4:59pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @4:58 A classical show with rotating hosts is a great idea!
	5:00pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:59 some might say the idea is too contemporary....
	5:01pm still b/p: You may have mentioned this, too, but in addition to the cartoon, advertising and background general exposure, there are many interesting instances of popular songs involving adaptation, reimagining, sampling of classical pieces across several recent decades -- performed by Elvis, Manilow, Carmen, Gaga, Nas, Beatles -- many more.
	5:02pm Erica: Well I made it through the first half of the show. Only 2 more hours to go.
	🥁 5:02pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:59 Can get some active listeners to program one here or there. Would like to hear what Dean would put together for his fellow listeners.
	🥁 5:02pm Brian in UK: Well you could always play the music backwards. Some numbnuts might say it sounds better that way!!
	5:02pm Funky16Corners: ↳ still b/p @5:01 Upthread I posted a link to a show I did in 2019 composed of all adaptations of classical themes in pop/rock/jazz
	5:03pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @5:02 Well done. Erica! Hang in there!
	5:03pm Erica: ↳ still b/p @5:01 And let's not forget about library production music. That is also used for the same reasons as classical and popular music.
	5:03pm timinoak: I'm very new to this program. But I love classical music, and appreciate learning more about it like this..
	5:04pm northguineahills: ↳ still b/p @5:01 it's still your bd, bp?
	🥁 5:05pm Brian in UK: Larry, this is great but I don't hear a single.
	🥁 5:05pm WR: ↳ Funky16Corners @4:57 Now the recordings with narration are on my want list, particularly both the John Gielgud and Ralph Richardson recordings.
	5:05pm northguineahills: ↳ Erica @5:03 Flash Strap goes on deep dives into library music counts on fingers on Thursdays right after Larry!
	5:05pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @5:05 I'm releasing it on a 42 minute 7-inch. Very tight grooves
	5:06pm Funky16Corners: ↳ WR @5:05 I think the one I heard was Geilgud.
	🥁 5:07pm Brian in UK: DJ Georgy Girl's show Wednesday plays library music combined with readings. wfmu.org...
	5:09pm northguineahills: i once saw a dj w/ 24" records. I believe they were originally used to be played for films at some point....(in fact, dj olive has a pic of himself w/ one on his fb page)
	🥁 5:10pm Brian in UK: Larry, notice that these are all CDs. Records do show up any clicks especially on quieter music.
	5:12pm Erica: ↳ Brian in UK @5:07 Yesterday's show or next week' s show?
	🥁 5:12pm WR: ↳ Erica @5:03 Yep, yep, Explorer's Room, Thursdays 7PM to 10PM ET, features production library music about every 6 weeks or so and has some sprinkled regularly into the free form episodes, and as Brian mentions, Hi-Waisted Modernist on the Sheena stream every Wednesday afternoon, and of course any time you want from the archive. Great literature with great variety of production library music.
	5:12pm βrian: ↳ Song: "Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica" by "Sheila ... Well, the power drill was an interesting effect.
	🥁 5:12pm Brian in UK: ↳ Erica @5:12 Every week.
	5:13pm Erica: ↳ Brian in UK @5:12 Need to check it out.
	🥁 5:15pm Brian in UK: ↳ Erica @5:13 Georgy reads a good story.
	🥁 5:15pm Brian in UK: Freddy D is in the house.
	5:16pm StringOFperils: Dee-Lee Money
	5:17pm northguineahills: well, delius did spend two years in FL, before it went full derp...
	5:18pm Funky16Corners: Yes, this was written about his impressions of the area during his time (no kidding) managing an orange grove!
	5:18pm Little Danny: Hehe NGH was wondering if this was your Florida experience :)
	🥁 5:19pm WR: ↳ Song: "Delius - Florida Suite - Daybreak/By the River/Su... Don't remember hearing this before. Bright and sunny sounding, literally.
	5:20pm northguineahills: errr, 'managing' an orange grove (by all accounts, not too interested in managing)
	5:21pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:20 If your calling is composing music, I suspect that working with oranges isn't too inspiring
	🥁 5:24pm Brian in UK: There is certainly a case for a 'classical' music show that debugs the idea of it being all the same & stiff-shirted.
	5:25pm northguineahills: there's a plaque near the duval county/st johns county line near the st john's river commemorating where his house used to be. (now part of jacksonville, and very suburban, used to be semi-rural/suburban when I was growing up, been there).
	5:26pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:25 I expect that DeSantis will be uprooting it as soon as he can?
	5:26pm northguineahills: ↳ Brian in UK @5:24 i prefer my shirts to remain well-starched and stiff, thank you very much!
	5:26pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @5:24 Agreed
	🥁 5:27pm Brian in UK: ↳ northguineahills @5:26 ....and wing-collared?
	5:27pm Marie: Back. I like these kind of pastoral pieces. It's like you're slowly moving through a landscape
	5:27pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:26 seeing his attempt at erasing history that doesn't fit his narrative, who knows...
	5:28pm northguineahills: ↳ Brian in UK @5:27 the flappy kind, naturally...
	5:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:27 It's amazing that a composer can elicit that kind of response just with a series of tones. You can feel it.
	🥁 5:29pm Brian in UK: To probably misquote Bowie. A frock coat & bibbity bobbity hat.
	5:29pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:28 Truly
	5:30pm Marie: I think I might have been trained to by certain movies but nonetheless it is so natural to me to feel it that way
	5:30pm northguineahills: i'll let marie dish out the polemics on death$antis. i....just... can't... anymore (i live w/it every day).
	🥁 5:31pm Brian in UK: Larry, love what you are playing but Delius, sorry Morpheus, is calling & I cannot resist the tune.
	5:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:30 I can't even imagine. We lived under Christie but he's a rank amateur in fascism compared to DeSantis.
	5:31pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Brian in UK @5:31 Nighty nite, Brian!
	5:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Brian in UK @5:31 gute nacht!
	5:32pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @5:30 Ha ha ha. I heard DeSantis is like Trump but totally dull (as a speaker, etc.). Not nearly the "entertainer" that Donald is/was
	5:32pm Funky16Corners: The repeated theme in this section reminds me of Beethoven, but also one of the songs from the musical 1776
	5:32pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:31 christie is a damn pinko in comparison...
	5:33pm Marie: @Larry--your governor seems so angry
	5:33pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:32 the problem is desantis is actually more competent (not very, but it doesn't take much to be effective w/ the GQP)
	5:34pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:33 Trump is a rabid carnival barker. DeSantis knows how to pull the levers of power and is doing some truly alarming things in Florida.
	5:35pm Marie: I'm just glad that a lot of these right wing freakazoid supporters are older and might not be around that much longer (not a nice sentiment, I know)
	5:35pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:33 He's not our governor any more, thank god. The guy we have now is a happy sort,
	5:35pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:35 You live in Texas, right?
	5:35pm northguineahills: i live in an economically depressed community of color. I'm at the shelter every day seeing how the GOPs policies effect real people every day. I'm developing empathy fatigue, and i feel guilty about that.
	5:36pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:35 New Jersey
	5:36pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:35 It's totally understandable, especially considering the glee the GOP takes in grinding people under their boots
	5:36pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:36 Oh, did you used to live in Texas? I like Governor Murphy--I like his policies
	5:36pm northguineahills: New Jersey, the Texas of New Jersey....
	5:37pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:36 Nope, lifelong NJ-ite
	5:38pm Marie: ↳ northguineahills @5:35 It makes me sick how they treat people and have for many years. The southern states that rejected the expansion of Medicare (or was it Medicaid?)
	5:38pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:36 The part of NJ I live in is HEAVILY MAGA. Trucknuts and Confederate flags as far as the eye can see
	5:38pm northguineahills: a piney? (I have an aunt and uncle that live in Bridgetown)
	5:39pm Marie: I had a dentist who I loved and he said it's as if the Republicans like to take things away from people.
	5:39pm Erica: ↳ Marie @5:36 What I don't like about Murphy is that he put a ban on plastic bags and foam cups/plates. I keep forgetting to bring a reusable bag in stores except for Walmart.
	5:39pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:38 In Ocean County, on the northern border of pineyland
	5:39pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:38 both. at no cost to themselves...(florida didn't touch medicare, can't w/ all of the retirees).
	5:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @5:39 It is a pain in the ass, but even I'm learning to carry reusable shopping bags
	5:40pm Marie: ↳ Erica @5:39 Just stick one in your car trunk or backpack... I eventually did.
	5:40pm Funky16Corners: Though I was never not hate paper straws
	5:40pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:39 It's pure cruelty
	5:41pm northguineahills: People look at me like I have three heads when I show up at stores w/ reusable bags. Or, they make me leave them at the front to prevent shoplifting....(depends how I'm dressed that day)
	5:41pm Erica: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:40 I used reuse plastic bags as waste bin bags to save money on trash bags but not anymore cause they're bad for the environment.
	5:41pm Marie: @Larry--there was a DJ on the drummer stream who broadcast from the area of Texas where LBJ grew up, the hill country... I thought it was you. I will have to figure that out
	5:41pm Erica: ↳ Erica @5:41 That's why they're banned.
	5:42pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:41 Little Danny used to live down there, Kris Holmes does now
	5:42pm Marie: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:42 Yes!!!! My apologies. Thank you for that
	5:42pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:41 Kris is in San Antonio. LC is in Marfa, as was LD, and Desert Fox (DF is in Austin and LD is in Philly)
	5:43pm northguineahills: ↳ northguineahills @5:42 why yes, I do stalk all of the GTDS djs, why do you ask?
	5:44pm Marie: ↳ Erica @5:41 You can get great reusable heavy weight plastic grocery bags for cheap at Trader Joes--get a few and throw em in your trunk--problem solved? @)
	5:44pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:43 We're so charismatic it's hard to resist...
	5:45pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:44 We have a bunch of TJs bags, and when we get out Peapod (grocery delivery) they bring everything in reusable bags. We keep a few and give the rest to the food pantry
	5:45pm Erica: ↳ Marie @5:44 I don't live near Trader Joe's. Plus we get them at Walmart.
	5:45pm Marie: This is very soothing
	5:46pm Marie: ↳ Erica @5:45 you get reusable bags at Walmart?
	5:46pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Marie @5:45 Yes, a very relaxing piece
	5:47pm Erica: ↳ Marie @5:46 Yes both trash bags and shopping bags.
	5:48pm northguineahills: thanks, Larry, been working on a problem for school for 2.5 days, and I just now fixed it....
	5:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:48 Glad I could help!
	5:50pm Marie: I don't know a lot about classical music but I know I like Saint Saens. And I got a great album a long time ago of Benny Goodman and band playing Mozart--heavy on the flute--I still love it
	5:51pm northguineahills: oh, fudruckers. they got the new servers and monitors in. Guess what I need to do at the shelter before i go out. Install a new security system, and test the servers and software......(still easier then what I used to do there).
	5:52pm northguineahills: Delius's family were in the wool business. Delius wanted no part in it. His father got him a job via connections to manage the orange grove. Delius saw as a way to get out of his father's hair...
	5:53pm northguineahills: ↳ Marie @5:50 oh, hit me an email later, I need to leave...
	5:54pm northguineahills: camille saint saens, another continental composer not recognized at home but celebrated in Britain...
	5:55pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:52 Thanks, NGH!
	5:55pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @5:54 Saint-Saens coming up next!
	5:59pm timinoak: ↳ Song: "Appalachian Spring [Orchestral Suite]" by "Aaron ... Oh, life..
	6:03pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @5:55 I think i got into Saint-Saens when I went to Epcot when I was 8 and the France exhibit played his Symphony No. 3 organ it's surround image -pre-Imax film....
	6:04pm Funky16Corners: ↳ timinoak @5:59 Copland hits me right in the feels.
	6:08pm StringOFperils: Copeland has all the great Richard Strauss orchestral textures, the writing for large orchestra with the giant string section. Very emotive and lofty
	6:12pm doctorjazz: Made it home, got you on again!
	6:12pm Funky16Corners: Welcome back!
	6:13pm Funky16Corners: And now the Shaker hymn...
	6:14pm Funky16Corners: ↳ StringOFperils @6:08 Yes, and I love the way he uses brass, too
	6:14pm StringOFperils: And percussion!
	6:24pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Appalachian Spring [Orchestral Suite]" by "Aaron ... This was great! (just caught up with comments)
	6:25pm northguineahills: at the top of my browser, all I saw was, "Suite]" by "Aaron ..." and I thought, "I did what?"
	6:26pm StringOFperils: Crushing it at the piano
	6:26pm Funky16Corners: This is the tortoises dancing the can-can, very slowly
	6:27pm northguineahills: ↳ Funky16Corners @6:26 ...w/ the pointer sisters?
	6:28pm Funky16Corners: Elephants!
	6:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ northguineahills @6:27 They wish...
	6:28pm doctorjazz: From earlier, there was a question of whether Republican states were not providing medicare or medicaid. My understanding is that it's the expansion of Medicaid that Republican states have refused to do. It was part of the Affordable Care Act, and expanding Medicaid (covering more people, medical bills) is funded by the Federal Government, would benefit many in these states, and not cost them anything as the Feds would pay for it. Nonetheless, Red states have refused to do it, basically to avoid giving the Federal Government/Democrats any "bragging rights". Or, another way to look at it is, "if they're for it, we're against it"
	6:28pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @6:28 Helluva way for a major political party to operate
	🥁 6:29pm WR: ↳ Song: "Saint-Saens - Carnival of the Animals" by "Serge ... Was not aware of Saint- Saens suppressing this piece. Wikipedia entry: "The work, about 25 minutes in duration, was written for private performance by two pianos and chamber ensemble; Saint-Saëns prohibited public performance of the work during his lifetime, feeling that its frivolity would damage his standing as a serious composer."
	6:29pm StringOFperils: Bowed bass vile. Junk in the trunk.
	6:29pm Funky16Corners: Kangaroos...
	6:30pm Funky16Corners: The fishies!
	6:30pm Funky16Corners: Also, isn't this in Harry Potter or something like that?
	6:30pm Erica: Ooh I feel like I'm at Hogwarts.
	6:31pm StringOFperils: This kind of musical effect has been reused in a million movies since when this was composed.
	6:32pm Funky16Corners: Animals with long ears...
	6:32pm StringOFperils: And this is like PSYCHO
	6:33pm Funky16Corners: The Cuckoo in the Depths of the Woods
	🥁 6:33pm WR: Larry, you could be doing the narration, introducing the beasties.
	6:34pm Funky16Corners: I'm waiting for Hans Conreid to come back
	6:34pm Funky16Corners: And now, the rest of the aviary...
	6:36pm Funky16Corners: The Pianists (making fun of pianists as "animals")
	6:37pm Funky16Corners: The Fossils...
	6:38pm Funky16Corners: The swan...
	🥁 6:40pm WR: Have been listening via headphones, and this recording, particularly the last section, is very stereo.
	6:40pm Andrew in Toronto: That was a truly great show! Thanks Larry!
	6:41pm Funky16Corners: Here comes the finale!
	6:41pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:40 Thanks, Andrew! More to come!
	6:41pm Funky16Corners: Here's aWiki breaking down the allusions in the Carnival of the Animals: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:43pm doctorjazz: This Allegro is famous from some TV or Movie or something.
	6:43pm Dean: Damn, I've missed some great music! Lynn Harrell! Saw him live at the John Anson Ford Theater, an outdoor amphitheater, in LA. The Beecham Florida Suite is one of my favorite recordings of all time! Vaughan Williams...sigh. I have that Anatartica in a complete symphonies and orchestral works box with Haitink.
	6:43pm Little Danny: thank you larry :)
	6:45pm Little Danny: dean i almost texted you this week with a specific classical question but then i got too shy :/
	6:45pm Dean: My favorite Water Music might be the Delos recording with Gerard Schwarz conducting LA Chamber orchestra.
	6:45pm Little Danny: larry btw i walked up the endless hills of manayunk listening to you play delius :)
	6:45pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Dean @6:43 Hey Dean! I think that's the Vaughan Williams set I have
	6:46pm Dean: Oh, shoot, I wish you had! But don't text me. I don't receive texts, by design. Call/email/postcard/semaphore/homing pigeon are all fine.
	6:46pm Erica: I heard that Fantasia 2000 flopped at the box office and it was what ended the Disney Renaissance.
	6:46pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Little Danny @6:45 That is an image to be treasured!
	6:46pm Flash Strap: Hey there Larry! LD! everyone!
	6:47pm Funky16Corners: Hey Flash! Stay tuned for Explorers Room at 7PM ET: wfmu.org...
	6:48pm Doug Schulkind: What a treat, Larry. You really are incredible.
	6:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @6:46 It may well have. It's also fairly short, but I think well done
	6:48pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Doug Schulkind @6:48 Hey Doug! Thanks very much!
	6:49pm Dean: This is the Delius box I have: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/i84AAOSw1Dlghu0z/s-l640.jpg But I have fond memories of checking out the Seraphim reissue of the album from my public library many, many years ago.
	6:49pm doctorjazz: Thanks, Larry, wonderful show!
	6:50pm Funky16Corners: ↳ doctorjazz @6:49 Thanks Doc!
	6:50pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Dean @6:49 My set looks different but I think it might be the same recordings
	6:51pm Funky16Corners: For all you Tyler Perry fans, this is about MEDEA, not MADEA...
	6:51pm Funky16Corners: Or, who knows, this is the part where she takes off her shoe and starts hitting someone
	6:51pm Erica: ↳ Funky16Corners @6:51 Hahaha 😂
	6:52pm Little Danny: haha YES larry
	6:52pm Funky16Corners: Wow, I thought I had shorted things, but this is going to take us almost all the way to the end.
	6:53pm Erica: Nothing beats Telemann when I thought you were talking about Telemann the indie band lol
	6:53pm Erica: ↳ Erica @6:53 Teleman with one n
	6:54pm Funky16Corners: This reminds me a little of the Planet of the Apes soundtrack
	6:55pm Funky16Corners: ↳ Erica @6:53 Thanks for sticking around for the whole show, Erica!
	6:56pm Dean: Telemann?! Now you're talking. I have long adored Telemann, the dead German guy, and not least because Jim Svejda at KUSC in LA used to devote entire shows to his music. He despised Telemann's music pretty much for the same reasons I adore it: much of it is bland, and there's too much of it, but there's something to me that's comforting about a reliable source of pleasant music that often surprises with its inventiveness. I love playing Telemann on recorder. But the guy wrote more than Bach and Haendel combined!
	6:57pm northguineahills: back for 3 mins, can't miss Barber!
	6:58pm Dean: One of my favorite records is a beat-up used LP I acquired for $0.25, random Telemann chamber pieces. The cover features a painting by...Degas. WTF?!
	6:58pm Flash Strap: Great show Larry! catch me next door: wfmu.org...
	🥁 6:58pm Yvang: Really refreshing to hear some classical music once in a while. I want more classical and orchestral on WFMU. Thanks Larry!
	6:58pm Erica: That last hour went by fast. Great four hour show Larry. Gotta get my money ready for the marathon next week.
	6:58pm Dean: Seconded, Yvang!
	6:58pm Funky16Corners: Thank you all for listening and joining the discussion!
	🥁 6:59pm WR: Thank you! Larry! Yes, a regular show, and can start with one with rotating hosts.

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