WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 2, 2022

Listener comments!
	10:03pm TDK60: Ho, DJ Sam. Been a while.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: Thanks for trotting back into the stable, TDK!
	10:04pm chresti: Hi Sam and form fitting horse forms!
	10:05pm Sam Segal: Chresti! Nice to see you.
	10:05pm TDK60: Ho, Chresti.
	10:06pm northguineahills: got any quarters?
	10:07pm Sam Segal: Quarters, dimes, nickels, anything you need, NGH.
	10:09pm doctorjazz: Quick hi! Love this Ruiz track (not familiar with him). Will be off meditating, check back in later! Hey Horsemen (and horsewomen)!
	10:09pm Sam Segal: See you in your next headspace, Doc!
	10:09pm chresti: Hi TDK60\\//
	10:10pm Pie: Have you ever had an experience where you experience an emotionally draining event and then a random thing pops in your head and you have MAYBE heard this idea (or in my case name a person) like a once (if that) but have no concrete clue about who or what the idea or person is and then your forget and can’t seem to remember and that idea becomes like the beacon for emotional stability? My compromise to this “hive mind” conundrum is to focus like a sea sponge on stuff like learning the intro to this show. Ps - hey (a colloquial horse must have been here) Paul Whiteman is still the king of Jazz.
	10:10pm chresti: Quarter horses ngh.
	10:11pm northguineahills: @chresti: snerf! well, there goes my tea out my nose!
	10:12pm northguineahills: @Sam: Phew! takes pants back off
	10:13pm chresti: I'm happy to hear you are happy to see us, Sam
	10:16pm Sam Segal: And I am happy to hear that you are happy to hear, Chresti!
	10:16pm Carmichael: Heya Sam and horses of varying denominations.
	10:16pm Dean: Wanna listen in, but I'm immersed in Pavel Kolesnikov's traversal of Chopin's Mazurkas. Perfume.
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Hello, Unitarian Carmichael!
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Pie, to me, you are still the King of Pies!
	🥁 10:17pm WR: I'm contemplating what Sam might mean by "seeing" us. Is it anything like the old adage, seen but not heard. Dean?
	10:18pm Dean: Yes...?
	10:18pm Sam Segal: Dean, continue your multi-sensory immersion! Don't mind us.
	10:18pm _Ike_: I misread the beginning of Pie's comment as, "Have you ever experienced an emotionally draining pie?" for a second there, and I was like, "No, pie is always emotionally fulfilling." Then I realized... no, wait. That's not what it says.
	10:19pm Sam Segal: WR, I "see" you in that I recognize the unique beauty of your spirit...that's all!
	10:19pm Sam Segal: @Ike, I could see it being emotionally draining to bake a pie.
	10:19pm Dean: This, I mean: https://www.discogs.com/master/1582076-Chopin-Pavel-Kolesnikov-Mazurkas I'm also making dinner, which distracts me from WFMU and Chopin.
	10:19pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam, stablemates, unstablemates
	10:20pm _Ike_: Plus, come to think of it, I had a really bad store-brand supermarket pie once and it was emotionally draining -- or at least deeply unfulfilling.
	10:20pm chresti: I think the "seeing" is of our names on the screen, WR?
	10:21pm Sam Segal: Nice arachnid, Coel. Welcome!
	10:22pm Emotionally Draining Pie: All is darkness.
	10:23pm rw: Good evening. Any idea what that Atari game might be?
	10:23pm Sam Segal: What's for dinner, Dean? Hopefully not an emotionally draining pie.
	10:24pm Dean: My supermarket pie story: 3rd or 4th grade? My mom adds a desert to my lunch for school, a slice of cherry pie, shrink-wrapped with a sliver of cardboard supporting it. This was a rare occasion. My mom didn't usually give me dessert. I bit in and savored the juicy cherries. Then I realized that I was eating paper. I'd consumed the cardboard, too.
	10:24pm Sam Segal: Greetings, rw! I'll have to go up to 696 East 161st Street to see if they've still got the Atari console to find out.
	10:25pm rw: I'm heating up a turkey pot pie in the microwave right now. Might not be emotionally draining, but certainly won't help my soul.
	10:25pm Dean: Dinner tonight: roast potatoes and a parsnip. A seared rib-eye steak. Salad or broccoli, depending on where we head.
	10:26pm chresti: Stroganoff or wiener schnitzel, Dean?
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: ever been deep inside a fruit pie or a pecan pie? i mean fruit or gooey pecan mixture 10 X thicker than yourself in every direction and you don't even know which direction is up? ...some dark shit man
	10:26pm doctorjazz: I'll take the doggie bag, Dean
	10:26pm Sam Segal: Don't forget to take the plastic off of the steak.
	10:27pm coelacanth∅: greetings rw
	10:28pm Pie: “It is later than you think. Turn out your lights - now. We bring you stories of the super natural dramatizing the fantasies and mysteries of the unknown. We tell you this frankly so if you do not wish to partake in these imaginative plays we urge you calmly and sincerely to turn off your radio now.” 24-26 Dean wins fair and square (a joke about writing and insanity - not a reference to Dean in chat.. ;)) The pumpkin pies at Costco were like less than ten bucks and I was like dang I could have a whole couple meals of pie.
	10:28pm northguineahills: @Sam:unfortunately, it's now just some newish bland 3 story vinyl siding house rows...(w/ no console out front
	10:28pm chresti: rw, hope it's not in a metal pie dish!
	10:29pm Dean: This Chopin is just lovely. (I mean the Chopin playing here in my room now while I monitor the Sam Segal comment board.)
	10:29pm coelacanth∅: i had gluten-free home-made meatless lasagna, 1/2 an acorn squash, acorn squash seeds and pesto mushloaf
	10:29pm northguineahills: should i have the cherry cheesecake now, or for breakfast....?
	10:30pm rw: Howdy coelacanth! chresti, not to worry, Marie Calendar has it all worked out.
	10:30pm zzz: hey sam and all. happy wednesday. this band name kinda harshing the cosmic vibes of this sweet track
	10:30pm rw: Dean, you're cheating.
	10:32pm Sam Segal: Hahaha, good point, zzz. I do like how the name of the album title has the same rhythm of the Herbie Nichols "Love, Gloom, Cash, Love" record.
	10:32pm rw: ngh, a little now, a little for breakfast.
	10:33pm chresti: we had fish burritos from a place in a former der wienerschnitzel
	10:33pm coelacanth∅: blood sugar spike breakfast
	10:34pm Dean: rw, I always cheat, and yet I don't want to be a cheater.
	10:36pm northguineahills: a new ukrainian restaurant/bar opens tomorrow on 77 W Houston & W Broadway, Slava www.slavanyc.com
	10:38pm chresti: cheese cake is kinda healthy because cheese is in it, right?
	10:39pm Carmichael: What is typical Ukrainian food?
	10:39pm coelacanth∅: only if it's broccoli cheesecake
	10:39pm Sam Segal: @NGH, I am curious about their "Borscht" cocktail. Vodka / Beets / Heavy Cream / Lemon.
	🥁 10:40pm DL in LA: Hay there Horsers! That first tune of the set was by Norwegians, right? During it, I was like what is it about this sax solo that’s so unusual? I’ve heard enough Norwegians speak English that I realized there was something about the sax phrasing that was similar to how Norwegians speak. Wild.
	10:41pm Pie: I read an article about nuclear testing in space and it claimed this was how “carbon dating” was made possible.. Still can’t remember that guy - I’m thinking male, economical/political, and wrote a book. Both first and last name aren’t common - possibly European.
	10:41pm zzz: loving this track - soyayya. so pleasantly busy
	10:41pm northguineahills: @chresti: makes sense.. @sam: me too @Carmichael: similar to other eastern european slavic cuisines, but definitely w/ it's own spin....
	10:41pm chresti: mmmm broccoli and pesto mushloaf
	10:42pm Sam Segal: Wow, you've got a great ear for Norwegian saxophone dialect, DL! That group was indeed Norwegian.
	10:44pm Sam Segal: I really dig it too, zzz. This group Red Desert Orchestra features musicians from Europe and West Africa. Really cool fusion. Also, the technique from the alto soloist right now is just gorgeous, I think.
	10:45pm northguineahills: @pie: was it serge korff or willard libby?
	10:52pm Pie: No - he might have been a CEO - like a condensed Lee Iococa Possibly a thought leader for some informed state of affairs. Someone an aspiring executive might read in secrecy.
	10:53pm doctorjazz: Back for a bit (music and chat), hi again!
	10:55pm Pie: @doctorjazz - your meditation idea was right up the alley I should/hope I’ve been heading down. I was driving on the highway in another emotionally draining state of affairs - during traffic - and my trunk opened. I think I did it with my mind.
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: why,Sam...because it's SHIT?!
	10:56pm coelacanth∅: i think "soulless" can be added to that description as well
	10:57pm Pie: Sam touches on a good - transferable idea here - I used European loosely. He is definitely Americanized - maybe educated through some sort of metaphysical British isle. Somehow I found out about him.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: i mentioned the awful saxophone playing that helps ruin Bruce Springsteen music on another comments board recently, but neglected to mention that i love good saxophone.
	10:59pm Sam Segal: Yeah, @coel, sometimes the groups I'm thinking of are trying so hard to hit these ecstatic "spiritual" highs that it all feels a bit contrived and soulless. But not Work Money Death!
	11:00pm rw: When the keys are in my pocket I can open my trunk by leaning against the kitchen counter
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: yes exactly it Sam.
	11:01pm rw: I SO want to know what groups you're talking about Sam. Then again, I SO don't want to know.
	11:01pm doctorjazz: This Charanga is very cool! Great guitar!
	11:02pm Sam Segal: I've got one particular name in mind, rw, but I don't want to throw any shade on this musician who others might like.
	11:02pm Sam Segal: Doc! Good to have you back in the fold live for a bit.
	11:03pm doctorjazz: Bit of a JJ Cale feel. .
	11:04pm zzz: i hear that docj. also reminds me of cass mccombs
	11:04pm doctorjazz: The label name as appropriate, big on that echo and effects...
	11:04pm Pie: I thought the same thing @rw - and have had this happen multiple times - it’s amazing my survival gear has never been stolen - like the Bank parking lol, my apartment, etc - but the issue was the keys were in the ignition. During my turmoil on my way home today I was testing if my foot might have switched the manual lever. Didn’t seem too likely but most magical events when reconciled loose the wash that makes them often hard to speak about.
	11:04pm coelacanth∅: i used to hang often in new agey situations with the corresponding hypocritical self-exalting pretend-spiritual people and heard PLENTY of spiritual mimicry.
	11:05pm Dean: We are at such a loss for having reached the point where criticism of "who others might like" stifles our will to criticize that same person.
	11:05pm coelacanth∅: doctor, yes -JJ Cale.
	11:06pm doctorjazz: Not familiar with mccombs, sounds like I might like them
	11:06pm Sam Segal: @doc, Scott Hirsch is also a sound designer for film, so he's got a great grasp on cool production techniques.
	11:07pm Dean: That doesn't quite read right... I mean we're at a loss when we refrain from criticizing artists (etc.) because we fear consequences arising from those who "might like" those artists.
	11:07pm doctorjazz: Love the name of this group!
	11:07pm coelacanth∅: but can you lean against the counter with your keys in your pocket and have your car go pick up some burritos for you?
	11:07pm rw: Ha! It's cool Sam. Just curiosity. There are plenty of people doing work worth talking about. Let's spend our time there.
	11:08pm northguineahills: doug mccombs has a chicago thrill jockey connection, and has been involved w/ Tortoise, eleventh dream day, etc... i dig his stuff....
	11:08pm doctorjazz: And fits nicely after the Hirsch...
	11:08pm northguineahills: I saw Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 on accident once in 1997....
	11:08pm rw: coel, not yet. But I think that day may not be far.
	11:08pm Sam Segal: Fair point, Dean...but I am far too Midwestern to talk shit about artists who I do think are aiming for something meaningful, even if they miss the mark for me.
	11:10pm doctorjazz: Cool set (not Chopin, but still...)
	11:10pm Sam Segal: It is tough to compete with Chopin!
	11:12pm zzz: i was thinking Cass (mccombs) ngh, but i am still in awe of Doug since seeing him with tortoise last month , and his playing on new chris forsyth album
	11:12pm coelacanth∅: i kinda burned out on Chopin. fortunately when that happened i was just getting into Liszt.
	11:12pm Pie: Probably some guy I heard on Jeopardy ;) (a contestant I mean lol ;))
	11:16pm northguineahills: @zzz: I had a non-musical (as in, not usually into music), try to get me into cass mccombs 20 years, ago, i liked it, but it took another 15 years to take....
	11:16pm Dean: I get burning out with the greats, but only so far. Even if you love chocolate eclairs, don't eat a dozen of them. Chopin via Kolesnikov is done. Now on the Drummer Stream.
	11:16pm doctorjazz: I burned out on Chris Forsythe-went to see him at the WFMU performance space (pee-pandemic, of course), was bored, daughter came and was miserable, left before it ended.
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: this reminds me of anarchestra
	11:18pm doctorjazz: *pee-pandemic, I like that typo...
	11:18pm Pie: It reminds me of a horticulture lab in Peru
	11:19pm Dean: Took the words right out of my mouth, Pie.
	11:19pm coelacanth∅: Dean i had 5-6 Chopin tracks on my bedtime/sleep playlist for a few years. i know i still Love it; just needed a break.
	11:20pm Dean: The Nocturnes, the Mazurkas, the Waltzes...lots more than five or six. But I have to back off now and then, regardless of the performer.
	11:23pm zzz: Tomeka Reid, Genius!
	11:24pm coelacanth∅: well, burning out on my favorite 5 or 6 didn't make me want to listen to my less-favorite pieces. and yes there're probably as many or nearly as many Chopin pieces i've never heard as those i have; but it still sounds like him. ...i assume.
	11:24pm zzz: i’ll be in chicago this weekend for a work thing/visiting brother, would die to catch some of these ppl playing
	11:24pm doctorjazz: Here's that trio album "Allium \| Rempis/Reid/Abrams \| Aerophonic Records / Dave Rempis" aerophonicrecords.bandcamp.com...
	11:25pm doctorjazz: Ok, bedtime, catch the rest tomorrow, thanks, Sam, night all!
	11:29pm rw: G'night doc!
	11:29pm northguineahills: laters, doc!
	11:30pm Sam Segal: @zzz, you ever go to Constellation when you're in Chicago? Or Elastic Arts? Those would be the two venues to check out, based on my limited Chicago experience.
	11:30pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc!
	11:32pm chresti: pie, better the trunk than the hood @10:55
	11:36pm zzz: thanks for those recs i’ve heard of constellation but not elastic arts.
	11:43pm Pie: @chresti - yeah most definitely. I just pulled over and popped it shut - with a hood idk what I’d do. Probably try the same thing but who knows. And well, that’s okay. I’ve found it is okay to not know. It is what it is and just that is enough.
	11:45pm Sam Segal: @zzz, Constellation is really cool. Run by Mike Reed, great Chicago drummer and champion of the scene there.
	11:45pm northguineahills: @Pie: It was just me trying to get out of the boot...
	11:46pm Pie: What’s unique about Serge Korff is the first thing that pops up isn’t a Wikipedia article. Not often the case when I (deep breath) google people. Let’s find out Willard’s story, Serge seemed fascinating.
	11:49pm Pie: It is called radiocarbon dating - I honestly negated to say radio because I wasn’t 100% on that aspect of it. Interesting how I feel science can almost sound “insane” when I try to use the terms (not a formal scientist). To know something without really knowing it..
	11:55pm rw: Sam
	11:55pm rw: Nice
	11:55pm northguineahills: @pie: yeah, the 'radio' prefix is usually dropped as it's considered a priori in its usage.... oooo, andrew chalk! thanks sam and erudite horse discoursers!
	11:56pm Sam Segal: rw
	11:56pm Sam Segal: thank you
	🥁 11:56pm DL in LA: Gorgeous last set. Thanks Sam.
	11:58pm Pie: Interesting. All of this - thanks everyone. One big messy take care.
	11:58pm northguineahills: @pie: i find myself know much w/o actually knowing, as if i only remember it from a dream....
	11:58pm zzz: thanks SS, night all
	12:00am rw: Good night everybody
	🥁 12:01am WR: Thank you, Sam
	12:01am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!
	12:01am chresti: Thanks Sam and gdnight everyone!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 2, 2022

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November 2, 2022: Returning to Horse Form

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Jorge López Ruiz	La Ciudad Vacía	Bronca Buenos Aires	Altercat	0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Per Husby Septett	Fantasy in D "Fantasy in D" by "Per Husby Septett"	Peacemaker	BBE	0:15:43 (Pop-up)
Karl Jenkins	Third Movement "Third Movement" by "Karl Jenkins"	Penumbra II	Jazz In Britain	0:20:08 (Pop-up)
Work Money Death	Freedom as a Heartfelt Song	Thought, Action, Reaction, Interaction	ATA	0:25:35 (Pop-up)
Eve Risser Red Desert Orchestra	Soyayya (Love)	Eurythmia	Clean Feed	0:36:17 (Pop-up)
The Four Sounds	Up From Slavery "Up From Slavery" by "The Four Sounds"	Jazz From District Six	Mad About	0:46:04 (Pop-up)

La Sonora Mazurén	Charanga Mazurén	Charanga Mazurén	Names You Can Trust	0:58:53 (Pop-up)
Scott Hirsch	Big Passenger "Big Passenger" by "Scott Hirsch"	Windless Day	Echo Magic	1:02:29 (Pop-up)
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282	The Arbeiter	I Hope It Lands	Communion	1:05:21 (Pop-up)
Guðmundur Steinn Gunnarsson	Gammur 1. Skrið	Landvættirnar fjórar	Carrier	1:08:20 (Pop-up)
Rosso Polare	Due_cani "Due_cani" by "Rosso Polare"	Cani Lenti	Alma De Nieto	1:13:32 (Pop-up)
Rempis / Reid / Abrams	Anther "Anther" by "Rempis / Reid / Abrams"	Allium	Aerophonic	1:20:04 (Pop-up)

Susana Santos Silva / Torbjörn Zetterberg / Hampus Lindwall	Stop Chords	If Nothing Else	Clean Feed	1:29:21 (Pop-up)
CC Sorensen	White as Green "White as Green" by "CC Sorensen"	Phantom Rooms	mappa	1:34:08 (Pop-up)
Kaho Matsui	10 Ton Bends "10 Ton Bends" by "Kaho Matsui"	Popcorn	Daisart	1:39:41 (Pop-up)
Golden Brown	Hol-n-Roc "Hol-n-Roc" by "Golden Brown"	Moonrise Orb Weaver	Eiderdown	1:44:16 (Pop-up)
Morio Agata	Renzoku Kosuibin "Renzoku Kosuibin" by "Morio Agata"	Norimono Zukan	Bridge Inc.	1:50:16 (Pop-up)
Andrew Chalk	Of a Dream "Of a Dream" by "Andrew Chalk"	THE END TIMES	Self-Released	1:53:55 (Pop-up)
Sage Martens	Coyotes "Coyotes" by "Sage Martens"	Riding Fences	Edições CN	1:56:42 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:03pm TDK60: Ho, DJ Sam. Been a while.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: Thanks for trotting back into the stable, TDK!
	10:04pm chresti: Hi Sam and form fitting horse forms!
	10:05pm Sam Segal: Chresti! Nice to see you.
	10:05pm TDK60: Ho, Chresti.
	10:06pm northguineahills: got any quarters?
	10:07pm Sam Segal: Quarters, dimes, nickels, anything you need, NGH.
	10:09pm doctorjazz: Quick hi! Love this Ruiz track (not familiar with him). Will be off meditating, check back in later! Hey Horsemen (and horsewomen)!
	10:09pm Sam Segal: See you in your next headspace, Doc!
	10:09pm chresti: Hi TDK60\\//
	10:10pm Pie: Have you ever had an experience where you experience an emotionally draining event and then a random thing pops in your head and you have MAYBE heard this idea (or in my case name a person) like a once (if that) but have no concrete clue about who or what the idea or person is and then your forget and can’t seem to remember and that idea becomes like the beacon for emotional stability? My compromise to this “hive mind” conundrum is to focus like a sea sponge on stuff like learning the intro to this show. Ps - hey (a colloquial horse must have been here) Paul Whiteman is still the king of Jazz.
	10:10pm chresti: Quarter horses ngh.
	10:11pm northguineahills: @chresti: snerf! well, there goes my tea out my nose!
	10:12pm northguineahills: @Sam: Phew! takes pants back off
	10:13pm chresti: I'm happy to hear you are happy to see us, Sam
	10:16pm Sam Segal: And I am happy to hear that you are happy to hear, Chresti!
	10:16pm Carmichael: Heya Sam and horses of varying denominations.
	10:16pm Dean: Wanna listen in, but I'm immersed in Pavel Kolesnikov's traversal of Chopin's Mazurkas. Perfume.
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Hello, Unitarian Carmichael!
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Pie, to me, you are still the King of Pies!
	🥁 10:17pm WR: I'm contemplating what Sam might mean by "seeing" us. Is it anything like the old adage, seen but not heard. Dean?
	10:18pm Dean: Yes...?
	10:18pm Sam Segal: Dean, continue your multi-sensory immersion! Don't mind us.
	10:18pm _Ike_: I misread the beginning of Pie's comment as, "Have you ever experienced an emotionally draining pie?" for a second there, and I was like, "No, pie is always emotionally fulfilling." Then I realized... no, wait. That's not what it says.
	10:19pm Sam Segal: WR, I "see" you in that I recognize the unique beauty of your spirit...that's all!
	10:19pm Sam Segal: @Ike, I could see it being emotionally draining to bake a pie.
	10:19pm Dean: This, I mean: https://www.discogs.com/master/1582076-Chopin-Pavel-Kolesnikov-Mazurkas I'm also making dinner, which distracts me from WFMU and Chopin.
	10:19pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam, stablemates, unstablemates
	10:20pm _Ike_: Plus, come to think of it, I had a really bad store-brand supermarket pie once and it was emotionally draining -- or at least deeply unfulfilling.
	10:20pm chresti: I think the "seeing" is of our names on the screen, WR?
	10:21pm Sam Segal: Nice arachnid, Coel. Welcome!
	10:22pm Emotionally Draining Pie: All is darkness.
	10:23pm rw: Good evening. Any idea what that Atari game might be?
	10:23pm Sam Segal: What's for dinner, Dean? Hopefully not an emotionally draining pie.
	10:24pm Dean: My supermarket pie story: 3rd or 4th grade? My mom adds a desert to my lunch for school, a slice of cherry pie, shrink-wrapped with a sliver of cardboard supporting it. This was a rare occasion. My mom didn't usually give me dessert. I bit in and savored the juicy cherries. Then I realized that I was eating paper. I'd consumed the cardboard, too.
	10:24pm Sam Segal: Greetings, rw! I'll have to go up to 696 East 161st Street to see if they've still got the Atari console to find out.
	10:25pm rw: I'm heating up a turkey pot pie in the microwave right now. Might not be emotionally draining, but certainly won't help my soul.
	10:25pm Dean: Dinner tonight: roast potatoes and a parsnip. A seared rib-eye steak. Salad or broccoli, depending on where we head.
	10:26pm chresti: Stroganoff or wiener schnitzel, Dean?
	10:26pm coelacanth∅: ever been deep inside a fruit pie or a pecan pie? i mean fruit or gooey pecan mixture 10 X thicker than yourself in every direction and you don't even know which direction is up? ...some dark shit man
	10:26pm doctorjazz: I'll take the doggie bag, Dean
	10:26pm Sam Segal: Don't forget to take the plastic off of the steak.
	10:27pm coelacanth∅: greetings rw
	10:28pm Pie: “It is later than you think. Turn out your lights - now. We bring you stories of the super natural dramatizing the fantasies and mysteries of the unknown. We tell you this frankly so if you do not wish to partake in these imaginative plays we urge you calmly and sincerely to turn off your radio now.” 24-26 Dean wins fair and square (a joke about writing and insanity - not a reference to Dean in chat.. ;)) The pumpkin pies at Costco were like less than ten bucks and I was like dang I could have a whole couple meals of pie.
	10:28pm northguineahills: @Sam:unfortunately, it's now just some newish bland 3 story vinyl siding house rows...(w/ no console out front
	10:28pm chresti: rw, hope it's not in a metal pie dish!
	10:29pm Dean: This Chopin is just lovely. (I mean the Chopin playing here in my room now while I monitor the Sam Segal comment board.)
	10:29pm coelacanth∅: i had gluten-free home-made meatless lasagna, 1/2 an acorn squash, acorn squash seeds and pesto mushloaf
	10:29pm northguineahills: should i have the cherry cheesecake now, or for breakfast....?
	10:30pm rw: Howdy coelacanth! chresti, not to worry, Marie Calendar has it all worked out.
	10:30pm zzz: hey sam and all. happy wednesday. this band name kinda harshing the cosmic vibes of this sweet track
	10:30pm rw: Dean, you're cheating.
	10:32pm Sam Segal: Hahaha, good point, zzz. I do like how the name of the album title has the same rhythm of the Herbie Nichols "Love, Gloom, Cash, Love" record.
	10:32pm rw: ngh, a little now, a little for breakfast.
	10:33pm chresti: we had fish burritos from a place in a former der wienerschnitzel
	10:33pm coelacanth∅: blood sugar spike breakfast
	10:34pm Dean: rw, I always cheat, and yet I don't want to be a cheater.
	10:36pm northguineahills: a new ukrainian restaurant/bar opens tomorrow on 77 W Houston & W Broadway, Slava www.slavanyc.com
	10:38pm chresti: cheese cake is kinda healthy because cheese is in it, right?
	10:39pm Carmichael: What is typical Ukrainian food?
	10:39pm coelacanth∅: only if it's broccoli cheesecake
	10:39pm Sam Segal: @NGH, I am curious about their "Borscht" cocktail. Vodka / Beets / Heavy Cream / Lemon.
	🥁 10:40pm DL in LA: Hay there Horsers! That first tune of the set was by Norwegians, right? During it, I was like what is it about this sax solo that’s so unusual? I’ve heard enough Norwegians speak English that I realized there was something about the sax phrasing that was similar to how Norwegians speak. Wild.
	10:41pm Pie: I read an article about nuclear testing in space and it claimed this was how “carbon dating” was made possible.. Still can’t remember that guy - I’m thinking male, economical/political, and wrote a book. Both first and last name aren’t common - possibly European.
	10:41pm zzz: loving this track - soyayya. so pleasantly busy
	10:41pm northguineahills: @chresti: makes sense.. @sam: me too @Carmichael: similar to other eastern european slavic cuisines, but definitely w/ it's own spin....
	10:41pm chresti: mmmm broccoli and pesto mushloaf
	10:42pm Sam Segal: Wow, you've got a great ear for Norwegian saxophone dialect, DL! That group was indeed Norwegian.
	10:44pm Sam Segal: I really dig it too, zzz. This group Red Desert Orchestra features musicians from Europe and West Africa. Really cool fusion. Also, the technique from the alto soloist right now is just gorgeous, I think.
	10:45pm northguineahills: @pie: was it serge korff or willard libby?
	10:52pm Pie: No - he might have been a CEO - like a condensed Lee Iococa Possibly a thought leader for some informed state of affairs. Someone an aspiring executive might read in secrecy.
	10:53pm doctorjazz: Back for a bit (music and chat), hi again!
	10:55pm Pie: @doctorjazz - your meditation idea was right up the alley I should/hope I’ve been heading down. I was driving on the highway in another emotionally draining state of affairs - during traffic - and my trunk opened. I think I did it with my mind.
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: why,Sam...because it's SHIT?!
	10:56pm coelacanth∅: i think "soulless" can be added to that description as well
	10:57pm Pie: Sam touches on a good - transferable idea here - I used European loosely. He is definitely Americanized - maybe educated through some sort of metaphysical British isle. Somehow I found out about him.
	10:59pm coelacanth∅: i mentioned the awful saxophone playing that helps ruin Bruce Springsteen music on another comments board recently, but neglected to mention that i love good saxophone.
	10:59pm Sam Segal: Yeah, @coel, sometimes the groups I'm thinking of are trying so hard to hit these ecstatic "spiritual" highs that it all feels a bit contrived and soulless. But not Work Money Death!
	11:00pm rw: When the keys are in my pocket I can open my trunk by leaning against the kitchen counter
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: yes exactly it Sam.
	11:01pm rw: I SO want to know what groups you're talking about Sam. Then again, I SO don't want to know.
	11:01pm doctorjazz: This Charanga is very cool! Great guitar!
	11:02pm Sam Segal: I've got one particular name in mind, rw, but I don't want to throw any shade on this musician who others might like.
	11:02pm Sam Segal: Doc! Good to have you back in the fold live for a bit.
	11:03pm doctorjazz: Bit of a JJ Cale feel. .
	11:04pm zzz: i hear that docj. also reminds me of cass mccombs
	11:04pm doctorjazz: The label name as appropriate, big on that echo and effects...
	11:04pm Pie: I thought the same thing @rw - and have had this happen multiple times - it’s amazing my survival gear has never been stolen - like the Bank parking lol, my apartment, etc - but the issue was the keys were in the ignition. During my turmoil on my way home today I was testing if my foot might have switched the manual lever. Didn’t seem too likely but most magical events when reconciled loose the wash that makes them often hard to speak about.
	11:04pm coelacanth∅: i used to hang often in new agey situations with the corresponding hypocritical self-exalting pretend-spiritual people and heard PLENTY of spiritual mimicry.
	11:05pm Dean: We are at such a loss for having reached the point where criticism of "who others might like" stifles our will to criticize that same person.
	11:05pm coelacanth∅: doctor, yes -JJ Cale.
	11:06pm doctorjazz: Not familiar with mccombs, sounds like I might like them
	11:06pm Sam Segal: @doc, Scott Hirsch is also a sound designer for film, so he's got a great grasp on cool production techniques.
	11:07pm Dean: That doesn't quite read right... I mean we're at a loss when we refrain from criticizing artists (etc.) because we fear consequences arising from those who "might like" those artists.
	11:07pm doctorjazz: Love the name of this group!
	11:07pm coelacanth∅: but can you lean against the counter with your keys in your pocket and have your car go pick up some burritos for you?
	11:07pm rw: Ha! It's cool Sam. Just curiosity. There are plenty of people doing work worth talking about. Let's spend our time there.
	11:08pm northguineahills: doug mccombs has a chicago thrill jockey connection, and has been involved w/ Tortoise, eleventh dream day, etc... i dig his stuff....
	11:08pm doctorjazz: And fits nicely after the Hirsch...
	11:08pm northguineahills: I saw Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 on accident once in 1997....
	11:08pm rw: coel, not yet. But I think that day may not be far.
	11:08pm Sam Segal: Fair point, Dean...but I am far too Midwestern to talk shit about artists who I do think are aiming for something meaningful, even if they miss the mark for me.
	11:10pm doctorjazz: Cool set (not Chopin, but still...)
	11:10pm Sam Segal: It is tough to compete with Chopin!
	11:12pm zzz: i was thinking Cass (mccombs) ngh, but i am still in awe of Doug since seeing him with tortoise last month , and his playing on new chris forsyth album
	11:12pm coelacanth∅: i kinda burned out on Chopin. fortunately when that happened i was just getting into Liszt.
	11:12pm Pie: Probably some guy I heard on Jeopardy ;) (a contestant I mean lol ;))
	11:16pm northguineahills: @zzz: I had a non-musical (as in, not usually into music), try to get me into cass mccombs 20 years, ago, i liked it, but it took another 15 years to take....
	11:16pm Dean: I get burning out with the greats, but only so far. Even if you love chocolate eclairs, don't eat a dozen of them. Chopin via Kolesnikov is done. Now on the Drummer Stream.
	11:16pm doctorjazz: I burned out on Chris Forsythe-went to see him at the WFMU performance space (pee-pandemic, of course), was bored, daughter came and was miserable, left before it ended.
	11:16pm coelacanth∅: this reminds me of anarchestra
	11:18pm doctorjazz: *pee-pandemic, I like that typo...
	11:18pm Pie: It reminds me of a horticulture lab in Peru
	11:19pm Dean: Took the words right out of my mouth, Pie.
	11:19pm coelacanth∅: Dean i had 5-6 Chopin tracks on my bedtime/sleep playlist for a few years. i know i still Love it; just needed a break.
	11:20pm Dean: The Nocturnes, the Mazurkas, the Waltzes...lots more than five or six. But I have to back off now and then, regardless of the performer.
	11:23pm zzz: Tomeka Reid, Genius!
	11:24pm coelacanth∅: well, burning out on my favorite 5 or 6 didn't make me want to listen to my less-favorite pieces. and yes there're probably as many or nearly as many Chopin pieces i've never heard as those i have; but it still sounds like him. ...i assume.
	11:24pm zzz: i’ll be in chicago this weekend for a work thing/visiting brother, would die to catch some of these ppl playing
	11:24pm doctorjazz: Here's that trio album "Allium \| Rempis/Reid/Abrams \| Aerophonic Records / Dave Rempis" aerophonicrecords.bandcamp.com...
	11:25pm doctorjazz: Ok, bedtime, catch the rest tomorrow, thanks, Sam, night all!
	11:29pm rw: G'night doc!
	11:29pm northguineahills: laters, doc!
	11:30pm Sam Segal: @zzz, you ever go to Constellation when you're in Chicago? Or Elastic Arts? Those would be the two venues to check out, based on my limited Chicago experience.
	11:30pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc!
	11:32pm chresti: pie, better the trunk than the hood @10:55
	11:36pm zzz: thanks for those recs i’ve heard of constellation but not elastic arts.
	11:43pm Pie: @chresti - yeah most definitely. I just pulled over and popped it shut - with a hood idk what I’d do. Probably try the same thing but who knows. And well, that’s okay. I’ve found it is okay to not know. It is what it is and just that is enough.
	11:45pm Sam Segal: @zzz, Constellation is really cool. Run by Mike Reed, great Chicago drummer and champion of the scene there.
	11:45pm northguineahills: @Pie: It was just me trying to get out of the boot...
	11:46pm Pie: What’s unique about Serge Korff is the first thing that pops up isn’t a Wikipedia article. Not often the case when I (deep breath) google people. Let’s find out Willard’s story, Serge seemed fascinating.
	11:49pm Pie: It is called radiocarbon dating - I honestly negated to say radio because I wasn’t 100% on that aspect of it. Interesting how I feel science can almost sound “insane” when I try to use the terms (not a formal scientist). To know something without really knowing it..
	11:55pm rw: Sam
	11:55pm rw: Nice
	11:55pm northguineahills: @pie: yeah, the 'radio' prefix is usually dropped as it's considered a priori in its usage.... oooo, andrew chalk! thanks sam and erudite horse discoursers!
	11:56pm Sam Segal: rw
	11:56pm Sam Segal: thank you
	🥁 11:56pm DL in LA: Gorgeous last set. Thanks Sam.
	11:58pm Pie: Interesting. All of this - thanks everyone. One big messy take care.
	11:58pm northguineahills: @pie: i find myself know much w/o actually knowing, as if i only remember it from a dream....
	11:58pm zzz: thanks SS, night all
	12:00am rw: Good night everybody
	🥁 12:01am WR: Thank you, Sam
	12:01am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam!
	12:01am chresti: Thanks Sam and gdnight everyone!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 2, 2022

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