WFMU: Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from April 20, 2021

Listener comments!
	🦇 2:59pm listener james from westwood: Howdy, Julie and all!
	🦇 3:01pm Julie: hiya James!
	3:02pm dreamyandseedy: greetings!
	3:02pm Sylvia (France-NYC): Hello Julie and listeners!
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: hiya dreamy!!
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: Sylvia! I've missed you! <3
	🦇 3:02pm chris in the redwoods: hi, Julie and folks. happy 420!
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: howdy Chris!
	3:03pm davefromtoronto: i was just thinking "they sound just like the kinks..." oops.
	🦇 3:03pm Phillippe: Howdy. Oh happy day
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: Hi Phillippe!
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: haha hi Dave! Yes I'm starting my show with Kinks songs this year!
	3:04pm βrian: It has stopped snowing now here on the isthmus.
	3:04pm luka: it's tuesday!!
	3:04pm davefromtoronto: btw that gif is giving me the spins...
	🦇 3:04pm Julie: Hiya Brian! Which isthmus is that?
	3:04pm Sylvia (France-NYC): 🖤 Julie
	🦇 3:05pm Phillippe: Hey Julie, just a heads up -- not sure if you've sent an email lately about shows, but I haven't ever seen one. I sent over a couple requests to be added to the fun.
	3:05pm Sylvia (France-NYC): 🖤
	🦇 3:06pm Julie: is the comment board stalling for anyone else?
	3:06pm davefromtoronto: btw that gif is giving me the spins...
	3:06pm Michael 98145: Can't to wrong with The Kinks
	3:08pm Michael 98145: Yup. The comment board is stuttering.
	🦇 3:08pm chris in the redwoods: no comment stalls here... i think...
	3:08pm βrian: Why, the isthmus between lakes Mendota and Monona.
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: Phillippe I haven't recently, though I should have about Saturday, even though it was announced pretty far in advance didn't see many folks turn up.
	🦇 3:09pm Julie: hi Michael!
	3:10pm HyperDose: Hey Julie!!!! The comments were stalling earlier, must be a high bandwidth holiday! Happy 420 everyone! :D
	🦇 3:10pm Julie: hiya HyperDose!
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: yeah I commented on tony's show and it was stuck at like 2:48... oh well at least the music seems to be sending okay?
	3:11pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Hey Julie and other souls!
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: hiya Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:13pm chris in the redwoods: i was last in Madison in December 2018, βrian. went occasionally for training and such at Epic.
	3:17pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I really hate to have missed your saturday fill-in, I remembered that only some 24 hours later. But how nice you're playing Wilma! That CD is really expensive nowadays.
	3:17pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: ICEHOUSE!!!!
	3:17pm βrian: Epic's mgmt apparently had a VERY hard time wrapping its head around the idea of letting folks work remotely.
	🦇 3:17pm Bas NL: Hello Julie! Alls!
	3:17pm Michael 98145: Whoa. Is Nettwerk still alive?
	🦇 3:19pm Bas NL: Hi Julie! Alls!
	🦇 3:19pm Julie: that Wilma is really good, I have to get more of their stuff. I don't know if nettwerk still exists, they are very 90s in my head. Hiya Bas!
	🦇 3:20pm Bas NL: Ohww.. delay.. me echo..
	🦇 3:21pm Julie: I will send emails for all fill ins I guess, just as reminders. I just hate to bug people
	🦇 3:22pm chris in the redwoods: that doesn't surprise me at all, βrian. this opening set is great, Julie.
	🦇 3:23pm Julie: thanks Chris!
	3:24pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I am only happy to be "bugged", i.e. if I get a reminder re: fill-in, it is another thing entirely if this oatmeal-for-brains remembers to listen the extra shows.
	🦇 3:25pm Handy Haversack: Julie and the Dark Ones! Sorry I'm late. Had to get the car back.
	3:25pm HyperDose: Space echo saves lives
	🦇 3:26pm Julie: hiya Handy!
	3:26pm miles of middle texas: Made it. Hey Julie. Hi people.
	🦇 3:26pm chris in the redwoods: how's the chariot fairing, Handy?
	🦇 3:27pm Julie: hiya Miles!
	🦇 3:29pm Handy Haversack: Hey, Chris! Well, our mechanic, because he's really sweet and just a good person, got it so the trunk will open and put in a couple of screws to make sure the side panel won't fall off -- and didn't charge us a cent. So now hopefully at the end of this farce the maniac's insurance co. will pay out and we can get some more actual repairs done.
	3:29pm Michael 98145: @HH, hope that was not an impound ...
	3:30pm Michael 98145: oh good
	🦇 3:30pm Julie: oh I hope so!
	🦇 3:32pm Handy Haversack: The insurance people say they can't move on until all possible claimants have been in touch -- and there are six of them. And of course the one they can't get ahold of is FDNY. Thanks, New York. Really running just a stellar pandemic. Great stuff. Would endure again.
	🦇 3:34pm chris in the redwoods: fingers crossed for automotive justice, Handy.
	🦇 3:38pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Chris. It's a mess. Taconic State Parkway: the highway of blood!
	🦇 3:41pm Handy Haversack: Your music helps with our pain, too, Julie.
	🦇 3:42pm listener james from westwood: Sheila Chandra always helps!
	🦇 3:42pm Julie: I didn't get any automotive justice that's for sure! But hopefully you'll have better luck. and thank you, Handy!
	3:42pm dreamyandseedy: julie, what is your ultimate plan for house in the country?
	🦇 3:44pm Julie: I'm thinking part time for a couple years but probably eventually full time. Not sure how willing I am to give up NYC. But I think I can get rid of this place and something smaller and make NYC part time. Birds, records, all the things that take up space can go upstate.
	🦇 3:45pm Julie: my dad is spending some time in NYC again but at his place in CT I'm pretty much the same distance from him here or in Pleasant Valley
	3:47pm Michael 98145: Oh, love Sheila Chandra
	🦇 3:48pm Bas NL: Ahh!! This Sheila Chandra sparked me thinking of the hit single 'Ever so Lonely'.. Great this 'Out On My Own' BTW!
	🦇 3:48pm Julie: holy crap, the verdict is coming
	3:49pm HyperDose: The American judicial system better not ruin my holiday
	🦇 3:49pm Julie: I told my trial-hooked friend yesterday it would happen during my show and she was all...nah it'll be a week
	3:49pm Michael 98145: that was quick
	🦇 3:49pm Julie: HyperDose seriously I'm in a good mood it better not. I think a fast verdict probably means guilty.
	3:49pm HyperDose: "BREAKING: A verdict has been reached in the trial of Derek Chauvin. It will be read between 4:30 and 5 pm ET" well there ya go
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: announced within the hour, I am seeing.
	3:50pm Stanley: Hey Julie and souls of every shade.
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: hi Stanley!!
	🦇 3:51pm Handy Haversack: Aye, Stanley!
	🦇 3:51pm chris in the redwoods: verdict already! oh wow....
	3:51pm Stanley: Hi Juie - technical question - what is playing right now?
	🦇 3:51pm Bas NL: Trisomie 21!
	3:52pm Stanley: Thanks Bas - weird becuase I'm still on St Vincent
	🦇 3:52pm Julie: yes trisomie 21
	🦇 3:54pm Handy Haversack: Stop and restart your stream, Stanley?
	🦇 3:55pm Bas NL: Love this club video playing Trisomie 21 - The Last Song: www.youtube.com...
	3:55pm Michael 98145: i think our cloud-based world is having a headache
	🦇 3:56pm Julie: there is something gothy about this Graham song
	3:56pm Stanley: Restarted the stream and hey presto, I've caught up
	🦇 3:56pm Julie: well until the twang started. reminded me of Athan Maroulis
	🦇 3:58pm Handy Haversack: No charge, Stanley.
	3:59pm Stanley: Thanks, Handy.
	3:59pm HyperDose: Happy to hear you're getting the car sorted, Handy!
	🦇 4:01pm chris in the redwoods: oooo, this is nice.
	🦇 4:01pm Julie: I was surprised how much I like this album
	4:01pm Michael 98145: always something here i've never heard before
	🦇 4:13pm listener james from westwood: The verdict anticipation may have pulled folks away from here.
	4:14pm dreamyandseedy: is urban hymns the record w/bittersweet symphony on it? i remember liking that song when i came out. sounded different to other things on the radio at that time
	🦇 4:14pm listener james from westwood: Frankly I'd rather hide here, but we'll all know sooner or later.
	🦇 4:16pm Bas NL: They're french... Discogs puts it as 'tree-zho-mee vahnt-ay-un'.
	4:16pm dreamyandseedy: i will have to listen to urban hymns! i liked catching the butterfly
	4:17pm Sylvia (France-NYC): Trisomie 21 means Down Syndrome
	🦇 4:17pm Julie: oh wow, icky name for a band
	4:18pm Michael 98145: yes
	4:18pm HyperDose: I wish I could put into words how magical Freddie's voice is to me
	4:19pm dreamyandseedy: does someone mind your house in the country while you are away? like the neighbors or is it locked up tight?
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: Well mostly the contractors have been there, but I haven't quite figured it out yet. I definitely need to set up a security system.
	🦇 4:20pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie and all. A good shirt for 4/20 on sale in the store - www.wfmu.store...
	4:20pm HyperDose: Happy 4:20 on 4/20 freeform friends!!! :D
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: @Hyper right?!
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: woohoo
	🦇 4:21pm Julie: hiya Ken!
	4:22pm HyperDose: Apparently Freddie's teeth and jaw were set in such a way that allowed him to throw his range like that, fascinating!
	🦇 4:23pm Julie: He said that, I'm not sure it's true. He had a gift for sure.
	🦇 4:27pm Handy Haversack: This is some good eighties sound right here. Maybe it's coincidence and selection bias, but it sure seems like there are once again more helicopters than needed in the air over NYC right now ...
	4:28pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I've heard corrective surgery was not performed on Freddie's teeth as it would've put his voice at risk.
	🦇 4:28pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Good afternoon. I wish I knew how to inhale. I’m shockingly bad at it.
	🦇 4:28pm Julie: yeah with a voice like that you don't wanna fool with anything
	🦇 4:29pm Julie: hiya Rich! I'm more of an edible girl, myself
	🦇 4:29pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I don’t need more calories
	🦇 4:30pm Julie: someone won this from me during marathon, this awesome record
	🦇 4:37pm chris in the redwoods: Pleasure Seekers track and this Trisha track both making me double-check the recording dates. they sound fresh.
	🦇 4:38pm Julie: probably remastered though
	4:39pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Bull Of The Woods is a favorite Elevators record of mine, but saying that sounds like blasphemy due to the reduced role Roky has on the album.
	🦇 4:41pm Julie: I haven't heard anything from them yet I don't like
	4:50pm HyperDose: Gotta love older Grimes!
	4:51pm dreamyandseedy: i am here! working in the background! i timed the work i have to do this week to your show so i could listen :)
	🦇 4:52pm Julie: both Geidi and Halfaxa are 2010 so not sure which came first, Thank you Dreamy :)
	🦇 4:53pm Julie: our resident pink floyd fan Mr Nobody can't be here this week because he just became a DADDY
	4:54pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I think that is a valid excuse!
	🦇 4:54pm Handy Haversack: Well, congrats in absentia, Mr Nobody! Tell the Cake Depot to lay in some minis!
	🦇 4:54pm Julie: I mean..it's been like 6 days
	🦇 4:56pm chris in the redwoods: 6 days in, i don't think i could distinguish night from day. yes, congrats, Papa Mr. Nobody!
	🦇 4:56pm Julie: so now there's one more Texan
	🦇 4:57pm Julie: Indeed I'm sure they are so overwhelmed.
	4:58pm Stanley: Nice Joni pick, Julie.
	4:58pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I actually got into Cirrus Minor because of the only interview Pekka Streng ever did. He dismissed Pink Floyd influences by saying he was not very familiar with them (this was early 70s) but admitted he liked the song the interviewer played him (duh, Cirrus Minor) because it had an "interesting atmosphere".
	5:01pm HyperDose: This has a Head Over Heels vibe to it
	🦇 5:01pm Julie: Mr. Nobody says thank you!
	🦇 5:03pm Julie: it's nice isn't it? I thought they only had this album but they have a few. Better hunt them down!
	🦇 5:03pm Julie: I really want to know how to get my guitar to have that sound
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: and I thought THIS was gonna be an ambient album!
	5:04pm KWilde: Always love to hear this Eno get airplay
	🦇 5:05pm Julie: i've heard of this album for years but I also assumed it was ambient, this was a surprise
	5:05pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Only two hours in and the majority you've played so far is - no matter how old - new stuff to me ; but I AM NOT COMPLAINING!
	5:06pm dreamyandseedy: i am still looking at the freddie mercury album cover! would love to see the other pix from that shoot
	5:06pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: and yes - congratulations to Mr. Nobody.
	🦇 5:06pm Julie: this is practically late 60s beach boys
	🦇 5:06pm Julie: GUILTY
	5:07pm βrian: Chauvin guilty.
	5:07pm HyperDose: Fuzz, overdrive, and delay (with a bit of reverb)!
	🦇 5:07pm Julie: thank you jury, now the police dept should pay for their therapy (as well as that of the witnesses)
	🦇 5:07pm Handy Haversack: Guilty, guilty, guilty.
	5:08pm Irene Trudel: GUILTY!
	🦇 5:08pm Julie: buzz not killed. THANK YOU IRENE! phew
	🦇 5:09pm Julie: this seems a perfect moment for a 6 minute opal jam
	5:10pm dreamyandseedy: COME THRU OPAL perfect thank you julie and JURORS
	🦇 5:10pm Julie: is it wrong to say I hope it's true what they say about cops in prison
	🦇 5:11pm Handy Haversack: Good call, Julie.
	🦇 5:11pm chris in the redwoods: may the sentencing be as just as the verdict!
	🦇 5:11pm Julie: YESSSSSSS
	🦇 5:13pm Julie: its chocolate time
	5:13pm HyperDose: Best 420 yet!!!
	🦇 5:14pm Julie: OMG THIS SONG
	5:15pm HyperDose: We're peaking, Julie!
	🦇 5:15pm Julie: I mean i LOVE Mazzy Star but that Opal right there killed
	5:16pm Irene Trudel: I am relieved. But many more to go.
	5:16pm StringOFperils: Yup
	🦇 5:16pm Julie: Indeed. First of hopefully many steps
	5:17pm HyperDose: Howdy Irene! :)
	🦇 5:17pm Handy Haversack: Ooo, 4 Non Blondes, nice. Yeah, Irene. The best outcome produced by the worst system. It's the system that needs to change -- and the structures of power that demand it. There's no justice with our justice system, but this comes as close as anything we have done.
	🦇 5:18pm Julie: ROT IN HELL is trending on twitter
	5:21pm Irene Trudel: I've been lurking and not working as I should be, HyperDose. But Julie's show live is a much needed distraction as I awaited the Chauvin verdict. (I usually have to catch an archive).
	🦇 5:26pm Handy Haversack: Whoa!
	🦇 5:26pm Handy Haversack: That's my special lady singing!
	🦇 5:27pm Julie: this song is so great
	5:27pm Sylvia (France-NYC): say hi to her for us, Handy
	5:27pm HyperDose: What is this aural sorcery?!
	🦇 5:27pm Julie: and goes nicely in todays show
	🦇 5:27pm Handy Haversack: She'll be thrilled -- she's off teaching in person right now!
	🦇 5:28pm Julie: ewww children
	🦇 5:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: Creek and Kills. Royalties!
	🦇 5:29pm Julie: does she write too?
	🦇 5:29pm Julie: the music I mean
	🦇 5:30pm Julie: I always stumble over the name what does it mean?
	🦇 5:30pm Julie: Creak& Kills, attorney at law
	5:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Yes, that Creek and Kills was really good!
	🦇 5:32pm Julie: okay now THIS is drug music
	🦇 5:32pm Handy Haversack: Julie, she wrote the lyrics to most of that album and I think all the singles so far. They do the music mostly cooperatively. The new EP in July is really cooperatively done, though Kate probably has more of the lyrics. She's a writer, after all. We live by and are deeply with Newtown Creek, which has several (former) tributaries known as kills (Dutch Kills, English Kills): "kill" is just Dutch for "creek." But you get some nice polysemy with it in English (viz., "English Kills," supra). But it's mainly testament to our Superfund of a neighborhood and waterway.
	🦇 5:32pm Handy Haversack: *deeply involved with^^
	5:32pm HyperDose: Handy is an avid canoe enthusiast. You should see him in action!
	🦇 5:33pm Julie: oh interesting!
	🦇 5:33pm Julie: I have a little tiny bit of water on my land upstate. is it a pond? a stream? I have no clue
	🦇 5:34pm Handy Haversack: Peekskill, Fishkill, Wallkill: all legacies of early Dutch settler-colonialism in NY.
	🦇 5:36pm Julie: I almost bought a house in East Fishkill, Hopewell Junction
	🦇 5:36pm Bas NL: Are you sure Handy? I don't know of a (present day) word 'kill' in Dutch.
	🦇 5:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: And the juxtaposition of the Fresh Kills Landfill. What's so fresh about a garbage dump?
	🦇 5:38pm Julie: Fresh Kills sounds like a serial killer thing
	🦇 5:39pm Handy Haversack: Well, I'm as certain as I can be from several years of intense water study in NY, Bas -- I didn't realize it was not a contemporary word still! It's definitely the accepted wisdom here, that all the "-kill" forms are from the Dutch word for creek or stream.
	🦇 5:40pm Handy Haversack: Bas, from Wiki: "The term is derived from the Middle Dutch kille (kil in modern Dutch), meaning "riverbed" or "water channel". It is found in areas of Dutch influence in the Netherlands' former North American colony of New Netherland, primarily the Hudson and Delaware Valleys. "
	🦇 5:41pm Handy Haversack: And Long Island, Wikipedia!
	5:41pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Slow Buildings is the one Pale Saints album I don't have, maybe because it is so different to what they were before that. A few years ago "all" of the "shoegaze" bands had reunion shows and other stuff going on - Lush, Slowdive, Ride, My Bloody Valentine etc. - but I doubt Pale Saints will ever do that.
	🦇 5:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: To the library! www.etymonline.com...
	🦇 5:42pm Julie: ha it's the only one I DO have I think
	🦇 5:43pm Julie: I don't think Pale saints got the love those others did
	🦇 5:44pm Bas NL: Middle Dutch is a long trow from present day Dutch. There was a article on it in my newspaper the other day: very hard to make out. A creek is called a 'kreek' in present day Dutch.
	🦇 5:44pm Handy Haversack: Nice, Ken. If I were still logged in to my work computer (and I am most decidedly not), I could get to the OED online. But that's a good one.
	🦇 5:46pm Handy Haversack: Bas, the Wiki stub mentions "modern Dutch geographical names, e.g. Dordtsche Kil, Sluiskil, or Kil van Hurwenen."
	5:47pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:42 Julie: in that case you really should check out The Comforts Of Madness, In Ribbons and if you don't feel like getting all the ep's, get the compilation Mrs. Dolphin. Essential stuff. Slow Buildings is almost like a different band that continued with the name Pale Saints after Ian Masters left.
	🦇 5:48pm Julie: cool, thank you Cha Cha
	🦇 5:49pm Bas NL: Hey! Learned something! Never knew of the word connection, Handy! ;)
	5:50pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:48 Julie: no probs, I'm just raging over the price of original vinyl of In Ribbons and stuck with the CD. Oh the 1st world problems. But i think there are these new vinyl reissues of The Comforts Of Madness and In Ribbons with bonus stuff extra discs on each.
	🦇 5:52pm Handy Haversack: It's funny -- it's the most prevalent Dutch word in my mind! I never even contemplated that it might not be in current use! Also, there is video evidence of me on Newtown Creek paddling with Bill Murray and Jimmy Kimmel, which is ridiculous, but it's out there should anyone want to find it. I'm the taller one in the Yankees hat and (under my life jacket) the T-shirt that says XGET HIGH PLAY RPGS And do a lot of the talking.
	🦇 5:54pm Julie: BAS I need some dutch goth!
	5:54pm HyperDose: Jan from Sheena's stream would know some Dutch goth!
	🦇 5:55pm Julie: ooh I will reach out thanks HD
	🦇 5:56pm Bas NL: Dutch language Goth, Julie? Thinking hard Most Dutch bands go English.. Within Temptation.. Clan of Xymox..
	🦇 5:58pm chris in the redwoods: weed and weed adjacent?
	6:00pm HyperDose: No thank YOU Julie! Thank you for putting on such a lovely show that kept us calm during the madness. Surely one for the historical archives!
	🦇 6:00pm Julie: keeping calm during the madness is my life's ambition and purpose perhaps
	🦇 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Wait, we don't get to hear "Julie coup de foudre"?
	🦇 6:01pm Julie: Maybe next time!
	🦇 6:02pm Bas NL: The Zipps - Marie Juana? Nederbeat band from Dordrecht. Great guys; met them a couple of times.
	🦇 6:02pm chris in the redwoods: my first visit to Paris, late night in the square outside the apartment where we were staying, a chap offered me a joint in exchange for an American Spirit cig. good trade.
	🦇 6:05pm Julie: I'll say!
	🦇 6:05pm Julie: I'll try to squeeze it in, bas!
	🦇 6:07pm Handy Haversack: Ha, Chris! We once got a local's tour of cool Paris in exchange for two packs of American Spirits! This was in 2000, our first ever trip, after I had won some money. Our server at a restaurant commented she had smoked them when she lived in the States. Further conversation revealed she had lived on our block in Brooklyn. We went back the next night to give her a couple of packs, and she offered to take us out, introduce us to her friends, and show us the places they liked. We even passed Bastille Day with them! Great time.
	🦇 6:09pm Julie: i haven't been to Paris
	🦇 6:09pm chris in the redwoods: nice, Handy! love those small world stories. yeah, the tobacco is totally different if you buy the brand in Europe. travel tips, folks, if we ever get to travel again, bring Spirits! (and be really cool).
	6:10pm βrian: @Handy: When I returned to France in 2004 after many years, nobody was smoking anymore. I couldn't believe my lungs!
	🦇 6:11pm Julie: wait what? The parisians stopped smoking?
	🦇 6:12pm chris in the redwoods: i don't smoke anymore, but i still love the smell of the smoke. i'm a weirdo, i'm told.
	6:12pm βrian: It seemed like there were still quite a few older smokers, but suddenly they were considerate. Among the younger folks, not much smoking at all, from what I could tell.
	🦇 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Killer set, by the way, Julie!
	6:14pm βrian: Ken votes to convict!
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: thanks Ken!
	🦇 6:17pm Julie: THAT guitar sound how do I make that guitar sound
	🦇 6:19pm Bas NL: Sounds like a 'chorus' effect.
	🦇 6:20pm Julie: so simulated layering? that would make sense
	6:20pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:12 chris in the redwoods: like this for me - if I'd smoke a cigarette now after almost 20 years of not smoking I'd throw up or get a violent headache, but I absolutely love the smell of cigarette smoking when someone else is doing it.
	🦇 6:22pm chris in the redwoods: exactly, Cha Cha! :)
	🦇 6:24pm Bas NL: Yeay!!! The Zipps!!
	🦇 6:24pm Julie: oh yes! it's got harpsichord!
	🦇 6:24pm Handy Haversack: βrian, I still noticed a good bit when we went back in 2016. I had quit that year. We were at our favorite bar from the first trip, which I found my muscle memory! And there was some great gypsy jazz going on. At the set break, the whole crowd spilled out side to smoke. I said to the bartender, "Tout le monde fume, et moi, je ne fume plus." And she reached out, cupped my cheek, and said, "Le pauvre." !!
	🦇 6:25pm Handy Haversack: *by muscle memory^^
	6:25pm βrian: I usually find cigarette smoke really acrid. But some distant cigar smoke can be pleasant, for sure.
	🦇 6:26pm Julie: thanks for the suggestion Bas this is cool
	6:27pm βrian: Ok, I need to bust downstairs and rustle up some vittles for Little Human.
	🦇 6:28pm chris in the redwoods: c-ya, βrian.
	🦇 6:28pm Bas NL: The lyrics to Marie Juana were heavily modified for the original caused an outrage.
	🦇 6:29pm Handy Haversack: Later on, βrian.
	6:34pm Gerry from Miami: That Supremes tune was a good one. Their biggest post-Diana Ross chart success. Jesn Terrell did a great job as the lead, backed by Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong. You can keep "Dirty" Diana!
	🦇 6:34pm Julie: hi Gerry! Yeah I think they are quite good without her
	🦇 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Jason in Houston earlier used the phrase "the devil's lettuce," which is excellent. Especially because it mixes in my brain with "the devil's bedposts" (the 4 of Spades), and I want to be at that party.
	🦇 6:36pm Julie: I always think of lettuce being cash
	6:38pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Nighties! Sorry I missed your show. Looks like it was a doozy, as usual! Icehouse even, Iva Davies is the voice of my teens.✌😎🌏🌻🐦
	🦇 6:38pm Bas NL: Widow's Weed.. such a great Espers track!
	🦇 6:39pm Julie: that's okay your 420 was over a while ago..or 20 04 I guess
	🦇 6:40pm Handy Haversack: Excellent. Espers. Always a treat. The "weed" here traditionally meaning the black clothes widows would wear.
	6:40pm Gerry from Miami: This Donovan track reminds me that Clay Pigeon recently played "I Love My Shirt," much to the chagrin of a number of his morning "glisteners." Mr. Lietch can sometimes polarize an audience. But by and large, I think he is quite talented. Slipped into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago too!
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: I love my shirt is great!
	🦇 6:43pm Julie: well, now isn't that depressing
	🦇 6:45pm Julie: damn they're giving out free joints in union square if you've had your shot
	🦇 6:47pm Julie: "they" being a guy in a weed suit
	🦇 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: G'day, Scott! It's been a positive afternoon for justice over here today.
	🦇 6:50pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I have never not heard Chubby sing without that Twist voice before.
	6:50pm Gerry from Miami: Chubby, I guess we never knew ya!! LOL!
	🦇 6:51pm chris in the redwoods: enjoyed very much, Julie! thank you! :)
	🦇 6:52pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Good evening folks. Thanks Julie.
	🦇 6:52pm Bas NL: Thanks Julie! Great selection today!
	🦇 6:53pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Julie, for all! This was a great gift on a fraught day. Thanks so much. Be well, friends.
	🦇 6:53pm Handy Haversack: Now I want to hear Kate sing "Total Eclipse of the Heart" SO BAD.
	6:53pm Gerry from Miami: Gonna go check on the reaction to Chauvin's triple conviction in the Floyd case.
	6:53pm luka: thank u, Julie.
	6:54pm Scott67: I see that Ken! Very happy about that. May justice prevail from now on.✌😎✊🖤❤💛💚💜💙
	6:54pm Scott67: Thanks Julie!😎🤙🌻🌺
	🦇 6:55pm Julie: thanks everyone!!
	6:56pm Sylvia (France-NYC): goodnight 🌙 y’all
	🦇 6:56pm Julie: goodnight Sylvia!
	🦇 6:56pm chris in the redwoods: 50 years later, Sam is still stepping on the grass. goddamn. take good care, folks!
	6:57pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thank you so much Julie, glad I was able to join you guys unlike Saturday night - well this time I did not bite my tongue while eating a pizza like that night ha ha (it did hurt and there was plenty of blood...)
	🦇 6:57pm Julie: owwww oh no
	🦇 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Julie. Some peace today for the life of George Floyd and for his family.
	🦇 6:58pm listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Julie!
	🦇 6:58pm Julie: I hope they don't mess up the sentencing part
	6:59pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Julie you might be familiar with www.soniccathedral.co.uk but i noticed there's nice articles written by/about Lush & Pale Saints members (trivia: Pale Saints' Meriel Barnham was Lush's original vocalist)
	🦇 6:59pm Julie: oooh thanks!
	🦇 7:00pm Handy Haversack: Wait, we didn't miss World Goth Day, did we?
	🦇 7:00pm Julie: may 22nd, I did a fill in this last Sat
	7:00pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: still ahead
	🦇 7:01pm Handy Haversack: Whew!

Dark Night of the Soul with Julie: Playlist from April 20, 2021

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Familiar & forgotten gems from 50-plus years of music on the darker side, shoegaze, synthpop, goth, psychedelia, darkwave, with unapologetic detours into 70s pop. In a dark night of the soul, it's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Kinks	House In The Country "House In The Country" by "The Kinks"	Face to Face	Reprise	1966	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Wilma	Nimesi Pituinen Matka "Nimesi Pituinen Matka" by "Wilma"	Claudius	Herodes	1993	0:04:01 (Pop-up)
Uvii	Strawberry Echoes "Strawberry Echoes" by "Uvii"	Ultraviolet	Uvii	2015	0:08:55 (Pop-up)
Rose Chronicles	Bottle Song "Bottle Song" by "Rose Chronicles"	Shiver	Nettwerk	1993	0:12:49 (Pop-up)
Icehouse	Mysterious Thing "Mysterious Thing" by "Icehouse"	Primitive Man	Chrysalis	1982	0:17:40 (Pop-up)
La Femme	Packshot "Packshot" by "La Femme"	Psycho Tropical Berlin	Born Bad Records	2013	0:22:29 (Pop-up)
Kahimi Karie	Tiny King Kong "Tiny King Kong" by "Kahimi Karie"	Tiny King Kong	Crue-L Records	1997	0:24:49 (Pop-up)
Aguaturbia	Waterfall "Waterfall" by "Aguaturbia"	Volumen 2	Background	1970	0:30:06 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Jefferson Airplane	Embryonic Journey				0:33:57 (Pop-up)
Sheila Chandra	Out On My Own "Out On My Own" by "Sheila Chandra"	Out On My Own	Caroline Records	1984	0:42:17 (Pop-up)
St. Vincent	Sugarboy "Sugarboy" by "St. Vincent"	Masseducation	Lorna Vista	2017	0:46:58 (Pop-up)
Trisomie 21	Sunken Lives "Sunken Lives" by "Trisomie 21"	Million Lights - A Collection Of Songs By Trisomie 21	Play It Again Sam Records	1987	0:50:30 (Pop-up)
Graham Gouldman	Behind The Door "Behind The Door" by "Graham Gouldman"	The Graham Gouldman Thing	RCA Victor	1968	0:54:42 (Pop-up)
Elton John vs Pnau	Telegraph to the Afterlife	Good Morning To The Night	Casablanca	2012	0:58:14 (Pop-up)
Unto Ashes	Kathy's Song "Kathy's Song" by "Unto Ashes"	Ghosts Captured	Projekt	2014	1:02:48 (Pop-up)
The Verve	Catching The Butterfly "Catching The Butterfly" by "The Verve"	Urban Hymns	Virgin	1997	1:06:34 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Kinks	Phenomenal Cat (instrumental)				1:13:00 (Pop-up)
Freddie Mercury	Living On My Own "Living On My Own" by "Freddie Mercury"	Mr. Bad Guy	Columbia	1985	1:17:43 (Pop-up)
Grimes	World Princess "World Princess" by "Grimes"	Halfaxa	Arbutus	2010	1:21:04 (Pop-up)
The Lords Of The New Church	Open Your Eyes	The Lords Of The New Church	I.R.S. Records	1982	1:25:39 (Pop-up)
The Pleasure Seekers	Good Kind of Hurt	What A Way To Die	Cradle Rocks Music	1968	1:29:07 (Pop-up)
Young Prisms	Better Days "Better Days" by "Young Prisms"	In Between	Kanine Records	2012	1:31:18 (Pop-up)
Trisha	The Darkness of My Night "The Darkness of My Night" by "Trisha"	Folk Rock And Faithfull: Dream Babes Volume Five	Dream Babes	1965	1:35:13 (Pop-up)
13th Floor Elevators	Rose and The Thorn	Bull Of the Woods	International Artists	1969	1:37:59 (Pop-up)
The Peppermint Rainbow	Pink Lemonade	Will You Be Staying After Sunday	Decca	1969	1:41:41 (Pop-up)
Mariangela	Let Me Find A Pathway "Let Me Find A Pathway" by "Mariangela"	Mariangela	Peters International	1975	1:43:32 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Beach Boys	Good Vibrations (stereo backing track)				1:47:12 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Cirrus Minor "Cirrus Minor" by "Pink Floyd"	Soundtrack From The Film "More"	Columbia	1969	1:52:27 (Pop-up)
Joni Mitchell	Rainy Night House "Rainy Night House" by "Joni Mitchell"	Ladies Of The Canyon	Reprise Records	1970	1:57:35 (Pop-up)
Lives & Times	You Roll Through Me	The Great Sad Happy Ending	SI Music	1994	2:00:51 (Pop-up)
Eno	Cindy Tells Me "Cindy Tells Me" by "Eno"	Here Come The Warm Jets	Island Records	1973	2:04:15 (Pop-up)
France Gall	Boom Boom "Boom Boom" by "France Gall"	Bonsoir John John	Philips	1966	2:07:46 (Pop-up)
Opal	Siamese Trap "Siamese Trap" by "Opal"	Happy Nightmare Baby	SST Records	1987	2:10:00 (Pop-up)
4 Non Blondes	Pleasantly Blue "Pleasantly Blue" by "4 Non Blondes"	Bigger, Better, Faster, More!	Atlantic	1992	2:16:31 (Pop-up)
Design	Children Of The Mist "Children Of The Mist" by "Design"	Design	Epic	1970	2:18:56 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Monkees	Daydream Believer (instrumental)
Creek and Kills	Devastator "Devastator" by "Creek and Kills"	Creek and Kills	Creek and Kills	2019	2:26:33 (Pop-up)
Pale Saints	Song Of Solomon "Song Of Solomon" by "Pale Saints"	Slow Buildings	4AD	1994	2:30:14 (Pop-up)
Queens	Keep It "Keep It" by "Queens"	End Times	Dial	2013	2:36:29 (Pop-up)
Olivia Louvel	Live With Me "Live With Me" by "Olivia Louvel"	Beauty Sleep	Cat Werk Imprint	2014	2:42:58 (Pop-up)
Her Majesty The Baby	Mary "Mary" by "Her Majesty The Baby"	Mary	Nu Millennia Records	1996	2:47:18 (Pop-up)
Nehl Aëlin	Hallucinogenic "Hallucinogenic" by "Nehl Aëlin"	Ghost Of A Child	Nehl Aëlin	2005	2:50:39 (Pop-up)
Collection D'Arnell Andrea	Les Ronces	Cirses Des Champs	Last Call Records	1996	2:53:20 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The Hollyridge Strings	Yellow Submarine				2:56:38 (Pop-up)
Jacques Hustin	La Marijuana "La Marijuana" by "Jacques Hustin"	Jacques Hustin	Pathe	1970	3:00:35 (Pop-up)
David Bowie	How Does The Grass Grow?	The Next Day	Columbia	2013	3:03:12 (Pop-up)
The Black Ryder	Grass "Grass" by "The Black Ryder"	Buy the Ticket, Take the Ride	The Anti-Machine Machine	2009	3:07:28 (Pop-up)
Deutsche Ashram	Taste The Grass "Taste The Grass" by "Deutsche Ashram"	Deeper and Deeper	Wormer Bros	2016	3:12:01 (Pop-up)
Alsace Lorraine	The Tall Grass (Robin Guthrie Mix)	Dark One	Darla Records	2007	3:16:49 (Pop-up)
The Supremes	Stoned Love "Stoned Love" by "The Supremes"	New Ways But Love Stays	Motown	1970	3:20:03 (Pop-up)
The Zipps	Marie-Juana "Marie-Juana" by "The Zipps"	Marie-Juana (single)	Relax	1967	3:24:35 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: The New Merseysiders	Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds				3:27:38 (Pop-up)
Elvis Presley	And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind	Back in Memphis	RCA	1970	3:30:25 (Pop-up)
Donovan	Devil Weed "Devil Weed" by "Donovan"	Ritual Groove	Donovan Discs	2010	3:33:27 (Pop-up)
Espers	Widow's Weed "Widow's Weed" by "Espers"	Espers II	Drag City	2006	3:38:14 (Pop-up)
The Electric Mess	The Grass Isn't Always Greener	The Electric Mess	The Electric Mess	2009	3:44:55 (Pop-up)
Chubby Checker	Stoned In The Bathroom	Chequered!	London Records	1971	3:47:55 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Syd Barrett	Gigolo Aunt (loop) "Gigolo Aunt (loop)" by "Syd Barrett"				3:50:57 (Pop-up)
Steppenwolf	Don't Step On The Grass, Sam	Live	Dunhill	1970	3:55:25 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦇 2:59pm listener james from westwood: Howdy, Julie and all!
	🦇 3:01pm Julie: hiya James!
	3:02pm dreamyandseedy: greetings!
	3:02pm Sylvia (France-NYC): Hello Julie and listeners!
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: hiya dreamy!!
	🦇 3:02pm Julie: Sylvia! I've missed you! <3
	🦇 3:02pm chris in the redwoods: hi, Julie and folks. happy 420!
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: howdy Chris!
	3:03pm davefromtoronto: i was just thinking "they sound just like the kinks..." oops.
	🦇 3:03pm Phillippe: Howdy. Oh happy day
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: Hi Phillippe!
	🦇 3:03pm Julie: haha hi Dave! Yes I'm starting my show with Kinks songs this year!
	3:04pm βrian: It has stopped snowing now here on the isthmus.
	3:04pm luka: it's tuesday!!
	3:04pm davefromtoronto: btw that gif is giving me the spins...
	🦇 3:04pm Julie: Hiya Brian! Which isthmus is that?
	3:04pm Sylvia (France-NYC): 🖤 Julie
	🦇 3:05pm Phillippe: Hey Julie, just a heads up -- not sure if you've sent an email lately about shows, but I haven't ever seen one. I sent over a couple requests to be added to the fun.
	3:05pm Sylvia (France-NYC): 🖤
	🦇 3:06pm Julie: is the comment board stalling for anyone else?
	3:06pm davefromtoronto: btw that gif is giving me the spins...
	3:06pm Michael 98145: Can't to wrong with The Kinks
	3:08pm Michael 98145: Yup. The comment board is stuttering.
	🦇 3:08pm chris in the redwoods: no comment stalls here... i think...
	3:08pm βrian: Why, the isthmus between lakes Mendota and Monona.
	🦇 3:08pm Julie: Phillippe I haven't recently, though I should have about Saturday, even though it was announced pretty far in advance didn't see many folks turn up.
	🦇 3:09pm Julie: hi Michael!
	3:10pm HyperDose: Hey Julie!!!! The comments were stalling earlier, must be a high bandwidth holiday! Happy 420 everyone! :D
	🦇 3:10pm Julie: hiya HyperDose!
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: yeah I commented on tony's show and it was stuck at like 2:48... oh well at least the music seems to be sending okay?
	3:11pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Hey Julie and other souls!
	🦇 3:11pm Julie: hiya Cha Cha!
	🦇 3:13pm chris in the redwoods: i was last in Madison in December 2018, βrian. went occasionally for training and such at Epic.
	3:17pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I really hate to have missed your saturday fill-in, I remembered that only some 24 hours later. But how nice you're playing Wilma! That CD is really expensive nowadays.
	3:17pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: ICEHOUSE!!!!
	3:17pm βrian: Epic's mgmt apparently had a VERY hard time wrapping its head around the idea of letting folks work remotely.
	🦇 3:17pm Bas NL: Hello Julie! Alls!
	3:17pm Michael 98145: Whoa. Is Nettwerk still alive?
	🦇 3:19pm Bas NL: Hi Julie! Alls!
	🦇 3:19pm Julie: that Wilma is really good, I have to get more of their stuff. I don't know if nettwerk still exists, they are very 90s in my head. Hiya Bas!
	🦇 3:20pm Bas NL: Ohww.. delay.. me echo..
	🦇 3:21pm Julie: I will send emails for all fill ins I guess, just as reminders. I just hate to bug people
	🦇 3:22pm chris in the redwoods: that doesn't surprise me at all, βrian. this opening set is great, Julie.
	🦇 3:23pm Julie: thanks Chris!
	3:24pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I am only happy to be "bugged", i.e. if I get a reminder re: fill-in, it is another thing entirely if this oatmeal-for-brains remembers to listen the extra shows.
	🦇 3:25pm Handy Haversack: Julie and the Dark Ones! Sorry I'm late. Had to get the car back.
	3:25pm HyperDose: Space echo saves lives
	🦇 3:26pm Julie: hiya Handy!
	3:26pm miles of middle texas: Made it. Hey Julie. Hi people.
	🦇 3:26pm chris in the redwoods: how's the chariot fairing, Handy?
	🦇 3:27pm Julie: hiya Miles!
	🦇 3:29pm Handy Haversack: Hey, Chris! Well, our mechanic, because he's really sweet and just a good person, got it so the trunk will open and put in a couple of screws to make sure the side panel won't fall off -- and didn't charge us a cent. So now hopefully at the end of this farce the maniac's insurance co. will pay out and we can get some more actual repairs done.
	3:29pm Michael 98145: @HH, hope that was not an impound ...
	3:30pm Michael 98145: oh good
	🦇 3:30pm Julie: oh I hope so!
	🦇 3:32pm Handy Haversack: The insurance people say they can't move on until all possible claimants have been in touch -- and there are six of them. And of course the one they can't get ahold of is FDNY. Thanks, New York. Really running just a stellar pandemic. Great stuff. Would endure again.
	🦇 3:34pm chris in the redwoods: fingers crossed for automotive justice, Handy.
	🦇 3:38pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Chris. It's a mess. Taconic State Parkway: the highway of blood!
	🦇 3:41pm Handy Haversack: Your music helps with our pain, too, Julie.
	🦇 3:42pm listener james from westwood: Sheila Chandra always helps!
	🦇 3:42pm Julie: I didn't get any automotive justice that's for sure! But hopefully you'll have better luck. and thank you, Handy!
	3:42pm dreamyandseedy: julie, what is your ultimate plan for house in the country?
	🦇 3:44pm Julie: I'm thinking part time for a couple years but probably eventually full time. Not sure how willing I am to give up NYC. But I think I can get rid of this place and something smaller and make NYC part time. Birds, records, all the things that take up space can go upstate.
	🦇 3:45pm Julie: my dad is spending some time in NYC again but at his place in CT I'm pretty much the same distance from him here or in Pleasant Valley
	3:47pm Michael 98145: Oh, love Sheila Chandra
	🦇 3:48pm Bas NL: Ahh!! This Sheila Chandra sparked me thinking of the hit single 'Ever so Lonely'.. Great this 'Out On My Own' BTW!
	🦇 3:48pm Julie: holy crap, the verdict is coming
	3:49pm HyperDose: The American judicial system better not ruin my holiday
	🦇 3:49pm Julie: I told my trial-hooked friend yesterday it would happen during my show and she was all...nah it'll be a week
	3:49pm Michael 98145: that was quick
	🦇 3:49pm Julie: HyperDose seriously I'm in a good mood it better not. I think a fast verdict probably means guilty.
	3:49pm HyperDose: "BREAKING: A verdict has been reached in the trial of Derek Chauvin. It will be read between 4:30 and 5 pm ET" well there ya go
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: announced within the hour, I am seeing.
	3:50pm Stanley: Hey Julie and souls of every shade.
	🦇 3:50pm Julie: hi Stanley!!
	🦇 3:51pm Handy Haversack: Aye, Stanley!
	🦇 3:51pm chris in the redwoods: verdict already! oh wow....
	3:51pm Stanley: Hi Juie - technical question - what is playing right now?
	🦇 3:51pm Bas NL: Trisomie 21!
	3:52pm Stanley: Thanks Bas - weird becuase I'm still on St Vincent
	🦇 3:52pm Julie: yes trisomie 21
	🦇 3:54pm Handy Haversack: Stop and restart your stream, Stanley?
	🦇 3:55pm Bas NL: Love this club video playing Trisomie 21 - The Last Song: www.youtube.com...
	3:55pm Michael 98145: i think our cloud-based world is having a headache
	🦇 3:56pm Julie: there is something gothy about this Graham song
	3:56pm Stanley: Restarted the stream and hey presto, I've caught up
	🦇 3:56pm Julie: well until the twang started. reminded me of Athan Maroulis
	🦇 3:58pm Handy Haversack: No charge, Stanley.
	3:59pm Stanley: Thanks, Handy.
	3:59pm HyperDose: Happy to hear you're getting the car sorted, Handy!
	🦇 4:01pm chris in the redwoods: oooo, this is nice.
	🦇 4:01pm Julie: I was surprised how much I like this album
	4:01pm Michael 98145: always something here i've never heard before
	🦇 4:13pm listener james from westwood: The verdict anticipation may have pulled folks away from here.
	4:14pm dreamyandseedy: is urban hymns the record w/bittersweet symphony on it? i remember liking that song when i came out. sounded different to other things on the radio at that time
	🦇 4:14pm listener james from westwood: Frankly I'd rather hide here, but we'll all know sooner or later.
	🦇 4:16pm Bas NL: They're french... Discogs puts it as 'tree-zho-mee vahnt-ay-un'.
	4:16pm dreamyandseedy: i will have to listen to urban hymns! i liked catching the butterfly
	4:17pm Sylvia (France-NYC): Trisomie 21 means Down Syndrome
	🦇 4:17pm Julie: oh wow, icky name for a band
	4:18pm Michael 98145: yes
	4:18pm HyperDose: I wish I could put into words how magical Freddie's voice is to me
	4:19pm dreamyandseedy: does someone mind your house in the country while you are away? like the neighbors or is it locked up tight?
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: Well mostly the contractors have been there, but I haven't quite figured it out yet. I definitely need to set up a security system.
	🦇 4:20pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Julie and all. A good shirt for 4/20 on sale in the store - www.wfmu.store...
	4:20pm HyperDose: Happy 4:20 on 4/20 freeform friends!!! :D
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: @Hyper right?!
	🦇 4:20pm Julie: woohoo
	🦇 4:21pm Julie: hiya Ken!
	4:22pm HyperDose: Apparently Freddie's teeth and jaw were set in such a way that allowed him to throw his range like that, fascinating!
	🦇 4:23pm Julie: He said that, I'm not sure it's true. He had a gift for sure.
	🦇 4:27pm Handy Haversack: This is some good eighties sound right here. Maybe it's coincidence and selection bias, but it sure seems like there are once again more helicopters than needed in the air over NYC right now ...
	4:28pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I've heard corrective surgery was not performed on Freddie's teeth as it would've put his voice at risk.
	🦇 4:28pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Good afternoon. I wish I knew how to inhale. I’m shockingly bad at it.
	🦇 4:28pm Julie: yeah with a voice like that you don't wanna fool with anything
	🦇 4:29pm Julie: hiya Rich! I'm more of an edible girl, myself
	🦇 4:29pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I don’t need more calories
	🦇 4:30pm Julie: someone won this from me during marathon, this awesome record
	🦇 4:37pm chris in the redwoods: Pleasure Seekers track and this Trisha track both making me double-check the recording dates. they sound fresh.
	🦇 4:38pm Julie: probably remastered though
	4:39pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Bull Of The Woods is a favorite Elevators record of mine, but saying that sounds like blasphemy due to the reduced role Roky has on the album.
	🦇 4:41pm Julie: I haven't heard anything from them yet I don't like
	4:50pm HyperDose: Gotta love older Grimes!
	4:51pm dreamyandseedy: i am here! working in the background! i timed the work i have to do this week to your show so i could listen :)
	🦇 4:52pm Julie: both Geidi and Halfaxa are 2010 so not sure which came first, Thank you Dreamy :)
	🦇 4:53pm Julie: our resident pink floyd fan Mr Nobody can't be here this week because he just became a DADDY
	4:54pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I think that is a valid excuse!
	🦇 4:54pm Handy Haversack: Well, congrats in absentia, Mr Nobody! Tell the Cake Depot to lay in some minis!
	🦇 4:54pm Julie: I mean..it's been like 6 days
	🦇 4:56pm chris in the redwoods: 6 days in, i don't think i could distinguish night from day. yes, congrats, Papa Mr. Nobody!
	🦇 4:56pm Julie: so now there's one more Texan
	🦇 4:57pm Julie: Indeed I'm sure they are so overwhelmed.
	4:58pm Stanley: Nice Joni pick, Julie.
	4:58pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: I actually got into Cirrus Minor because of the only interview Pekka Streng ever did. He dismissed Pink Floyd influences by saying he was not very familiar with them (this was early 70s) but admitted he liked the song the interviewer played him (duh, Cirrus Minor) because it had an "interesting atmosphere".
	5:01pm HyperDose: This has a Head Over Heels vibe to it
	🦇 5:01pm Julie: Mr. Nobody says thank you!
	🦇 5:03pm Julie: it's nice isn't it? I thought they only had this album but they have a few. Better hunt them down!
	🦇 5:03pm Julie: I really want to know how to get my guitar to have that sound
	🦇 5:04pm Julie: and I thought THIS was gonna be an ambient album!
	5:04pm KWilde: Always love to hear this Eno get airplay
	🦇 5:05pm Julie: i've heard of this album for years but I also assumed it was ambient, this was a surprise
	5:05pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Only two hours in and the majority you've played so far is - no matter how old - new stuff to me ; but I AM NOT COMPLAINING!
	5:06pm dreamyandseedy: i am still looking at the freddie mercury album cover! would love to see the other pix from that shoot
	5:06pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: and yes - congratulations to Mr. Nobody.
	🦇 5:06pm Julie: this is practically late 60s beach boys
	🦇 5:06pm Julie: GUILTY
	5:07pm βrian: Chauvin guilty.
	5:07pm HyperDose: Fuzz, overdrive, and delay (with a bit of reverb)!
	🦇 5:07pm Julie: thank you jury, now the police dept should pay for their therapy (as well as that of the witnesses)
	🦇 5:07pm Handy Haversack: Guilty, guilty, guilty.
	5:08pm Irene Trudel: GUILTY!
	🦇 5:08pm Julie: buzz not killed. THANK YOU IRENE! phew
	🦇 5:09pm Julie: this seems a perfect moment for a 6 minute opal jam
	5:10pm dreamyandseedy: COME THRU OPAL perfect thank you julie and JURORS
	🦇 5:10pm Julie: is it wrong to say I hope it's true what they say about cops in prison
	🦇 5:11pm Handy Haversack: Good call, Julie.
	🦇 5:11pm chris in the redwoods: may the sentencing be as just as the verdict!
	🦇 5:11pm Julie: YESSSSSSS
	🦇 5:13pm Julie: its chocolate time
	5:13pm HyperDose: Best 420 yet!!!
	🦇 5:14pm Julie: OMG THIS SONG
	5:15pm HyperDose: We're peaking, Julie!
	🦇 5:15pm Julie: I mean i LOVE Mazzy Star but that Opal right there killed
	5:16pm Irene Trudel: I am relieved. But many more to go.
	5:16pm StringOFperils: Yup
	🦇 5:16pm Julie: Indeed. First of hopefully many steps
	5:17pm HyperDose: Howdy Irene! :)
	🦇 5:17pm Handy Haversack: Ooo, 4 Non Blondes, nice. Yeah, Irene. The best outcome produced by the worst system. It's the system that needs to change -- and the structures of power that demand it. There's no justice with our justice system, but this comes as close as anything we have done.
	🦇 5:18pm Julie: ROT IN HELL is trending on twitter
	5:21pm Irene Trudel: I've been lurking and not working as I should be, HyperDose. But Julie's show live is a much needed distraction as I awaited the Chauvin verdict. (I usually have to catch an archive).
	🦇 5:26pm Handy Haversack: Whoa!
	🦇 5:26pm Handy Haversack: That's my special lady singing!
	🦇 5:27pm Julie: this song is so great
	5:27pm Sylvia (France-NYC): say hi to her for us, Handy
	5:27pm HyperDose: What is this aural sorcery?!
	🦇 5:27pm Julie: and goes nicely in todays show
	🦇 5:27pm Handy Haversack: She'll be thrilled -- she's off teaching in person right now!
	🦇 5:28pm Julie: ewww children
	🦇 5:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: Creek and Kills. Royalties!
	🦇 5:29pm Julie: does she write too?
	🦇 5:29pm Julie: the music I mean
	🦇 5:30pm Julie: I always stumble over the name what does it mean?
	🦇 5:30pm Julie: Creak& Kills, attorney at law
	5:30pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Yes, that Creek and Kills was really good!
	🦇 5:32pm Julie: okay now THIS is drug music
	🦇 5:32pm Handy Haversack: Julie, she wrote the lyrics to most of that album and I think all the singles so far. They do the music mostly cooperatively. The new EP in July is really cooperatively done, though Kate probably has more of the lyrics. She's a writer, after all. We live by and are deeply with Newtown Creek, which has several (former) tributaries known as kills (Dutch Kills, English Kills): "kill" is just Dutch for "creek." But you get some nice polysemy with it in English (viz., "English Kills," supra). But it's mainly testament to our Superfund of a neighborhood and waterway.
	🦇 5:32pm Handy Haversack: *deeply involved with^^
	5:32pm HyperDose: Handy is an avid canoe enthusiast. You should see him in action!
	🦇 5:33pm Julie: oh interesting!
	🦇 5:33pm Julie: I have a little tiny bit of water on my land upstate. is it a pond? a stream? I have no clue
	🦇 5:34pm Handy Haversack: Peekskill, Fishkill, Wallkill: all legacies of early Dutch settler-colonialism in NY.
	🦇 5:36pm Julie: I almost bought a house in East Fishkill, Hopewell Junction
	🦇 5:36pm Bas NL: Are you sure Handy? I don't know of a (present day) word 'kill' in Dutch.
	🦇 5:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: And the juxtaposition of the Fresh Kills Landfill. What's so fresh about a garbage dump?
	🦇 5:38pm Julie: Fresh Kills sounds like a serial killer thing
	🦇 5:39pm Handy Haversack: Well, I'm as certain as I can be from several years of intense water study in NY, Bas -- I didn't realize it was not a contemporary word still! It's definitely the accepted wisdom here, that all the "-kill" forms are from the Dutch word for creek or stream.
	🦇 5:40pm Handy Haversack: Bas, from Wiki: "The term is derived from the Middle Dutch kille (kil in modern Dutch), meaning "riverbed" or "water channel". It is found in areas of Dutch influence in the Netherlands' former North American colony of New Netherland, primarily the Hudson and Delaware Valleys. "
	🦇 5:41pm Handy Haversack: And Long Island, Wikipedia!
	5:41pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Slow Buildings is the one Pale Saints album I don't have, maybe because it is so different to what they were before that. A few years ago "all" of the "shoegaze" bands had reunion shows and other stuff going on - Lush, Slowdive, Ride, My Bloody Valentine etc. - but I doubt Pale Saints will ever do that.
	🦇 5:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: To the library! www.etymonline.com...
	🦇 5:42pm Julie: ha it's the only one I DO have I think
	🦇 5:43pm Julie: I don't think Pale saints got the love those others did
	🦇 5:44pm Bas NL: Middle Dutch is a long trow from present day Dutch. There was a article on it in my newspaper the other day: very hard to make out. A creek is called a 'kreek' in present day Dutch.
	🦇 5:44pm Handy Haversack: Nice, Ken. If I were still logged in to my work computer (and I am most decidedly not), I could get to the OED online. But that's a good one.
	🦇 5:46pm Handy Haversack: Bas, the Wiki stub mentions "modern Dutch geographical names, e.g. Dordtsche Kil, Sluiskil, or Kil van Hurwenen."
	5:47pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:42 Julie: in that case you really should check out The Comforts Of Madness, In Ribbons and if you don't feel like getting all the ep's, get the compilation Mrs. Dolphin. Essential stuff. Slow Buildings is almost like a different band that continued with the name Pale Saints after Ian Masters left.
	🦇 5:48pm Julie: cool, thank you Cha Cha
	🦇 5:49pm Bas NL: Hey! Learned something! Never knew of the word connection, Handy! ;)
	5:50pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @5:48 Julie: no probs, I'm just raging over the price of original vinyl of In Ribbons and stuck with the CD. Oh the 1st world problems. But i think there are these new vinyl reissues of The Comforts Of Madness and In Ribbons with bonus stuff extra discs on each.
	🦇 5:52pm Handy Haversack: It's funny -- it's the most prevalent Dutch word in my mind! I never even contemplated that it might not be in current use! Also, there is video evidence of me on Newtown Creek paddling with Bill Murray and Jimmy Kimmel, which is ridiculous, but it's out there should anyone want to find it. I'm the taller one in the Yankees hat and (under my life jacket) the T-shirt that says XGET HIGH PLAY RPGS And do a lot of the talking.
	🦇 5:54pm Julie: BAS I need some dutch goth!
	5:54pm HyperDose: Jan from Sheena's stream would know some Dutch goth!
	🦇 5:55pm Julie: ooh I will reach out thanks HD
	🦇 5:56pm Bas NL: Dutch language Goth, Julie? Thinking hard Most Dutch bands go English.. Within Temptation.. Clan of Xymox..
	🦇 5:58pm chris in the redwoods: weed and weed adjacent?
	6:00pm HyperDose: No thank YOU Julie! Thank you for putting on such a lovely show that kept us calm during the madness. Surely one for the historical archives!
	🦇 6:00pm Julie: keeping calm during the madness is my life's ambition and purpose perhaps
	🦇 6:01pm Handy Haversack: Wait, we don't get to hear "Julie coup de foudre"?
	🦇 6:01pm Julie: Maybe next time!
	🦇 6:02pm Bas NL: The Zipps - Marie Juana? Nederbeat band from Dordrecht. Great guys; met them a couple of times.
	🦇 6:02pm chris in the redwoods: my first visit to Paris, late night in the square outside the apartment where we were staying, a chap offered me a joint in exchange for an American Spirit cig. good trade.
	🦇 6:05pm Julie: I'll say!
	🦇 6:05pm Julie: I'll try to squeeze it in, bas!
	🦇 6:07pm Handy Haversack: Ha, Chris! We once got a local's tour of cool Paris in exchange for two packs of American Spirits! This was in 2000, our first ever trip, after I had won some money. Our server at a restaurant commented she had smoked them when she lived in the States. Further conversation revealed she had lived on our block in Brooklyn. We went back the next night to give her a couple of packs, and she offered to take us out, introduce us to her friends, and show us the places they liked. We even passed Bastille Day with them! Great time.
	🦇 6:09pm Julie: i haven't been to Paris
	🦇 6:09pm chris in the redwoods: nice, Handy! love those small world stories. yeah, the tobacco is totally different if you buy the brand in Europe. travel tips, folks, if we ever get to travel again, bring Spirits! (and be really cool).
	6:10pm βrian: @Handy: When I returned to France in 2004 after many years, nobody was smoking anymore. I couldn't believe my lungs!
	🦇 6:11pm Julie: wait what? The parisians stopped smoking?
	🦇 6:12pm chris in the redwoods: i don't smoke anymore, but i still love the smell of the smoke. i'm a weirdo, i'm told.
	6:12pm βrian: It seemed like there were still quite a few older smokers, but suddenly they were considerate. Among the younger folks, not much smoking at all, from what I could tell.
	🦇 6:13pm Ken From Hyde Park: Killer set, by the way, Julie!
	6:14pm βrian: Ken votes to convict!
	🦇 6:14pm Julie: thanks Ken!
	🦇 6:17pm Julie: THAT guitar sound how do I make that guitar sound
	🦇 6:19pm Bas NL: Sounds like a 'chorus' effect.
	🦇 6:20pm Julie: so simulated layering? that would make sense
	6:20pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: @6:12 chris in the redwoods: like this for me - if I'd smoke a cigarette now after almost 20 years of not smoking I'd throw up or get a violent headache, but I absolutely love the smell of cigarette smoking when someone else is doing it.
	🦇 6:22pm chris in the redwoods: exactly, Cha Cha! :)
	🦇 6:24pm Bas NL: Yeay!!! The Zipps!!
	🦇 6:24pm Julie: oh yes! it's got harpsichord!
	🦇 6:24pm Handy Haversack: βrian, I still noticed a good bit when we went back in 2016. I had quit that year. We were at our favorite bar from the first trip, which I found my muscle memory! And there was some great gypsy jazz going on. At the set break, the whole crowd spilled out side to smoke. I said to the bartender, "Tout le monde fume, et moi, je ne fume plus." And she reached out, cupped my cheek, and said, "Le pauvre." !!
	🦇 6:25pm Handy Haversack: *by muscle memory^^
	6:25pm βrian: I usually find cigarette smoke really acrid. But some distant cigar smoke can be pleasant, for sure.
	🦇 6:26pm Julie: thanks for the suggestion Bas this is cool
	6:27pm βrian: Ok, I need to bust downstairs and rustle up some vittles for Little Human.
	🦇 6:28pm chris in the redwoods: c-ya, βrian.
	🦇 6:28pm Bas NL: The lyrics to Marie Juana were heavily modified for the original caused an outrage.
	🦇 6:29pm Handy Haversack: Later on, βrian.
	6:34pm Gerry from Miami: That Supremes tune was a good one. Their biggest post-Diana Ross chart success. Jesn Terrell did a great job as the lead, backed by Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong. You can keep "Dirty" Diana!
	🦇 6:34pm Julie: hi Gerry! Yeah I think they are quite good without her
	🦇 6:35pm Handy Haversack: Jason in Houston earlier used the phrase "the devil's lettuce," which is excellent. Especially because it mixes in my brain with "the devil's bedposts" (the 4 of Spades), and I want to be at that party.
	🦇 6:36pm Julie: I always think of lettuce being cash
	6:38pm Scott67: G'day Julie & Nighties! Sorry I missed your show. Looks like it was a doozy, as usual! Icehouse even, Iva Davies is the voice of my teens.✌😎🌏🌻🐦
	🦇 6:38pm Bas NL: Widow's Weed.. such a great Espers track!
	🦇 6:39pm Julie: that's okay your 420 was over a while ago..or 20 04 I guess
	🦇 6:40pm Handy Haversack: Excellent. Espers. Always a treat. The "weed" here traditionally meaning the black clothes widows would wear.
	6:40pm Gerry from Miami: This Donovan track reminds me that Clay Pigeon recently played "I Love My Shirt," much to the chagrin of a number of his morning "glisteners." Mr. Lietch can sometimes polarize an audience. But by and large, I think he is quite talented. Slipped into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago too!
	🦇 6:42pm Julie: I love my shirt is great!
	🦇 6:43pm Julie: well, now isn't that depressing
	🦇 6:45pm Julie: damn they're giving out free joints in union square if you've had your shot
	🦇 6:47pm Julie: "they" being a guy in a weed suit
	🦇 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: G'day, Scott! It's been a positive afternoon for justice over here today.
	🦇 6:50pm Rich in Bay Ridge: I have never not heard Chubby sing without that Twist voice before.
	6:50pm Gerry from Miami: Chubby, I guess we never knew ya!! LOL!
	🦇 6:51pm chris in the redwoods: enjoyed very much, Julie! thank you! :)
	🦇 6:52pm Rich in Bay Ridge: Good evening folks. Thanks Julie.
	🦇 6:52pm Bas NL: Thanks Julie! Great selection today!
	🦇 6:53pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Julie, for all! This was a great gift on a fraught day. Thanks so much. Be well, friends.
	🦇 6:53pm Handy Haversack: Now I want to hear Kate sing "Total Eclipse of the Heart" SO BAD.
	6:53pm Gerry from Miami: Gonna go check on the reaction to Chauvin's triple conviction in the Floyd case.
	6:53pm luka: thank u, Julie.
	6:54pm Scott67: I see that Ken! Very happy about that. May justice prevail from now on.✌😎✊🖤❤💛💚💜💙
	6:54pm Scott67: Thanks Julie!😎🤙🌻🌺
	🦇 6:55pm Julie: thanks everyone!!
	6:56pm Sylvia (France-NYC): goodnight 🌙 y’all
	🦇 6:56pm Julie: goodnight Sylvia!
	🦇 6:56pm chris in the redwoods: 50 years later, Sam is still stepping on the grass. goddamn. take good care, folks!
	6:57pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Thank you so much Julie, glad I was able to join you guys unlike Saturday night - well this time I did not bite my tongue while eating a pizza like that night ha ha (it did hurt and there was plenty of blood...)
	🦇 6:57pm Julie: owwww oh no
	🦇 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Julie. Some peace today for the life of George Floyd and for his family.
	🦇 6:58pm listener james from westwood: Many thanks, Julie!
	🦇 6:58pm Julie: I hope they don't mess up the sentencing part
	6:59pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: Julie you might be familiar with www.soniccathedral.co.uk but i noticed there's nice articles written by/about Lush & Pale Saints members (trivia: Pale Saints' Meriel Barnham was Lush's original vocalist)
	🦇 6:59pm Julie: oooh thanks!
	🦇 7:00pm Handy Haversack: Wait, we didn't miss World Goth Day, did we?
	🦇 7:00pm Julie: may 22nd, I did a fill in this last Sat
	7:00pm Photocopy Cha Cha 2000: still ahead
	🦇 7:01pm Handy Haversack: Whew!

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