WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 4, 2019

Listener comments!
	9:04pm chresti: Hello lost opera horses that are acting like soap
	9:07pm Sam Segal: In the manner of a Chresti! Welcome!
	9:12pm Dean: I promise not to mention Steely Dan this week. (Damn!)
	9:15pm Sam Segal: I want this to be a safe space for you, Dean! Dan or no Dan!
	9:16pm Hams: this record's a knockout.
	9:20pm Chris Farrel: Dean; academic question I thought of this week that I wanted your input on. Is a story better to have a conclusive ending where there is a clear ending Or is an open ending with no real conclusion more appealing?
	9:21pm Sam Segal: Hams! Indeed, "Guitar" is a special one...especially love the whole Princess Sonata.
	9:22pm Sam Segal: Chris, if I may weigh in, the best story has a
	9:25pm Dean: My off the cuff response, Chris, due largely to the fact that I'm immersed in J. Hillis Miller's The Linguistic Moment, is that good literature never has a conclusive ending. By that I mean that the reader will never be able to conclude that "the moral of this story is" such-and-such. But I think you're referring specifically to the narrative trajectory itself: "and they all lived happily ever after" versus "and they wandered off into the sunset..." I don't think one or the other prevails. Ask an academic question, get a pseudo-academic answer.
	9:26pm Chris Farrel: Both parts of that were helpful. Thank you for your input.
	9:27pm Dean: Some great works never conclude. See, e.g., Finnegan's Wake and Dhalgren.
	9:28pm Hams: yeah, that version of "blind willie" is something else.
	9:29pm chresti: I think it depends, if you want it to be made into a blockbuster movie, then definitely leave it hanging.. Haha Sam
	9:30pm Dean: A series of blockbuster movies!
	9:31pm Chris Farrel: I can understand that. I relate my writing abilities to a scene in the Royal Tenebaums where Richie Tenebaum is in a tennis match and he removes one of his shoes and “actually I think he’s crying” But I came across several rousing ideas during my using days and could never put the puzzle together fully.
	9:32pm Chris Farrel: A joke: I believe Blockbuster went out of business but Netflix is alive and well.
	9:35pm Dean: On those rare occasions when I exhibit "writing abilities" I relate them to the last thing I just read. I'm pretty much a Zelig in that arena, not quite a copy-cat, but by no stretch an original.
	9:36pm Chris Farrel: I can understand but originality is virtually impossible under some circumstances And even then how can a person be sure.
	9:40pm Chris Farrel: Nice set so far Sam.
	9:40pm Dean: Of course. I don't mean "original" in absolute terms, but relatively speaking Dickinson is an original, like Wallace Stevens, Laurence Sterne, Rabelais, Mallarme...you know, literary oddballs whose eccentricities don't seem gratuitous or faked.
	9:42pm Sam Segal: Thanks, Chris!
	9:42pm Dean: I once flew into LFO from Denver on a layover.
	9:44pm Chris Farrel: I don’t spit on the floor.
	9:46pm Chris Farrel: Sam: when you were in Greece did you eat at any restaurants where it was custom to break your dishes on the floor what when done eating?
	9:46pm Sam Segal: While it wasn't the custom anywhere I ate, I did do it anyway, Chris!
	9:47pm Chris Farrel: Lmao. Time for Accounting goodnight to the chat.
	9:49pm Dean: I once dined at a famous-ish restaurant in Long Beach/San Pedro, CA, a really fun Greek restaurant, Papadakis, where in fact they did routinely smash plates on the floor!
	9:51pm Sam Segal: Sounds cathartic!
	9:51pm Dean: Indeed. You can't get more Greek than catharsis.
	9:58pm northguineahills: Dug that Dj Center!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: You have a dubbers heart, NGH!
	10:11pm northguineahills: We need more horse operas, but w/ Mr Ed and Francis the Talking Mule!
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Less Bojack Horseman, more Mr. Ed!
	10:15pm northguineahills: I just started binging Bojack Horseman, although dark at times, it's full of reflections of todays society and plenty of obscure easter eggs and jokes that mostly woofmooers would get.
	10:16pm northguineahills: I would hope I have a dubbers heart, I used to dj monthly at the I dub NY and Dub Dub parties: soundcloud.com...
	10:17pm Sam Segal: I have been wanting to watch Bojack for awhile. Still on my list.
	10:17pm coelacanth∅))): greetings Sam & hose people
	10:17pm Sam Segal: As is this dub set of yours, NGH!
	10:17pm coelacanth∅))): -i mean house people
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Wow, Coel, love the display name!
	10:17pm Dean: I lost my hose.
	10:18pm coelacanth∅))): ...er, i mean horse people
	10:19pm Sam Segal: People of the Hose
	10:21pm coelacanth∅))): Thanks Sam! it wasn't meant to remain but i do like it. it was a result of someone on wfmu playing sunn o))) a few weeks ago -or maybe it was something that sounded like sunn o))), i don't remember.
	10:21pm northguineahills: dub tanzende pferdespiele, jetzt mit lederhosen!
	10:22pm coelacanth∅))): (and now it's the first handle that comes up so if i don't take the extra step to enter the usual one it's this)
	10:22pm northguineahills: Every thing O'Malley does w/ Sunn o)))) is amazing (but hell to script in my music database.
	10:24pm coelacanth∅))): (((hmm have i heard O'Malley w/sunn o)))?
	10:30pm Sam Segal: I think Sun O))) released their second new album of the year recently
	10:31pm coelacanth∅))): i like sunn o))) but i especially like their collaborations
	10:32pm coelacanth∅))): this right here is crazy though! - kelele
	🥁 10:40pm WR: I thought I heard Sonny Sharrock call my name. Howdy partners!
	🥁 10:45pm WR: Mr. Segal, quite a nice spread you have. I think as first time listener that I should browse you shows in the archive.
	10:47pm coelacanth∅))): funny, i just had a Sonny Sharrock marathon earlier today ...coincidentally?
	10:47pm Sam Segal: WR, I'd be honored if you would! Glad I put out the Sonny signal for you!
	10:51pm Dean: Remarkably, when I heard the first strains of this cheesy Genesis tune I thought, "Strawbs!"
	10:57pm coelacanth∅))): i have a technical question someone here might be able to answer, if you'll pardon me. my receiver specifies a 75 ohm antenna for fm and i cannot find one that i know i had. the only dipole antennas i find on ebay that have a lead wire long enough to come close to reaching the ceiling are "300 Ohm to 75 Ohm Push-On Adapter" antennas. will this work as well? is there anything at all about it that is not as good as a straight up 75ohm wire beginning to end? is there an upside to the 300 ohm adapter?
	🥁 10:57pm WR: I could listen to Robert Wyatt sing telephone book or even recite the English alphabet.
	10:58pm doctorjazz: Time for some horsin' around.
	10:59pm Sam Segal: Happy Horse, Doctor Jazz!
	10:59pm coelacanth∅))): i'm pretty sure he DID recite the english alphabet on an early soft machine album! ("II", i think)
	🥁 11:02pm WR: Coelacanthø (holy sh!t your user name is in my text buffer as first choice for coe!) except for very demanding spec the adapter is just as good. My 2 cents...
	11:02pm coelacanth∅))): (yes, on "volume two" - "a concise british alphabet" parts 1 & 2)
	11:04pm coelacanth∅))): Thanks WR. i know little about ohms and such, i'm embarrassed to say.
	🥁 11:04pm WR: Yes, remarkably Wyatt performed the English alphabet forward and backward on that LP. Hello esteemed doctorjazz.
	11:07pm doctorjazz: Great Monk-ing!
	11:09pm coelacanth∅))): (i enjoyed that genesis track)
	11:11pm Sam Segal: Coel, your validation on that Genesis tune counts for a lot!
	🥁 11:20pm WR: Sorry, missed who you said was on bass clarinet on that Monk tune?
	11:24pm Sam Segal: That was the great Rudi Mahall
	🥁 11:31pm WR: Thank you. Feel silly to ask when I can look it up on the internet but wanted to capture the info in the comments for when I come back to the show in the archive. Heading off to sleep now. Will comment when I listen to archived shows. Cheers all.
	11:33pm northguineahills: Damnit, was watching my niece and missed Lea....
	11:33pm Sam Segal: Thanks for, WR! Glad you found Team Horse!
	11:34pm Sam Segal: There will always be more Bertucci on this show, NGH.
	11:39pm chresti: I must hit the hay, alas..goodnight horses and hoses..thanks Sam!
	11:40pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Chresti!
	11:46pm doctorjazz: Cool set! Have to go to bed now as well, thanks, Sam!
	11:47pm Sam Segal: Take her easy, Doc!
	11:48pm coelacanth∅))): ngh she rocked our world, as usual gnight WR, chresti, dr.j
	11:50pm coelacanth∅))): so, i was across the room and didn't consider that that wasn't Jon Hassell before; but i don't see his name over there
	11:53pm Sam Segal: Yeah, could have been either Sam Gendel and Sam Wilkes or CHI...both employ that Hassell sounding trumpet effect.
	12:01am coelacanth∅))): never heard of either of them. must check them out (together and, possibly, individually)
	12:01am coelacanth∅))): Thanks Sam take care y'all

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November 4, 2019: A Horse Opera, Hoss Opera, or Oater is a Western Movie or Television Series That is Cliched or Formulaic (in the Manner of a Soap Opera)

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Sonny Sharrock Band	Dick Dogs "Dick Dogs" by "Sonny Sharrock Band"	Seize the Rainbow	Enemy	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Little Rock "Little Rock" by "Sonny Sharrock"	Ask the Ages	Axiom	0:06:18 (Pop-up)
Sonny Sharrock	Princess Sonata: Princess and the Magician	Guitar	Enemy	0:13:13 (Pop-up)

Bernie Worrell	Won't Go Away "Won't Go Away" by "Bernie Worrell"	Blacktronic Science	Gramavision	0:20:51 (Pop-up)
Luiz Melodia	Questão De Posse "Questão De Posse" by "Luiz Melodia"	Maravilhas Contemporâneas	Som Livre	0:26:02 (Pop-up)
Al Kent	Sing a Song (Al Kent Edit)	The Jazzy Edition	GAMM	0:30:32 (Pop-up)
The Chinese Restaurants	LFO "LFO" by "The Chinese Restaurants"	Instant Music	Ever/Never	0:37:46 (Pop-up)
Joe Higgs	Mother Radio "Mother Radio" by "Joe Higgs"	7"	New Beat	0:45:35 (Pop-up)
Blackbeard	'Nough "'Nough" by "Blackbeard"	I Wah Dub	More Cut	0:48:05 (Pop-up)
DJ Center	Dem Say Ah (2 AM Inna London Dub)	Dem Say Ah	Push The Fader	0:51:51 (Pop-up)

Stephen Mallinder	Working (You Are)	Um Dada	Dais	1:01:53 (Pop-up)
Joy O	Burn (ft. Infinite & Mansur Brown)	Slipping	Hinge Finger	1:06:52 (Pop-up)
Waajed	Let Your Love (ft. Ideeyah, DeSean Jones, & Khristian Foreman)	Hocus Pocus	Deviation	1:12:12 (Pop-up)
Overmono	Le Tigre "Le Tigre" by "Overmono"	POLY011	Poly Kicks	1:18:12 (Pop-up)
Loraine James	Sick 9 "Sick 9" by "Loraine James"	For You and I	Hyperdub	1:23:58 (Pop-up)
Judgitzu	Kelele "Kelele" by "Judgitzu"	Umeme / Kelele	Nyege Nyege Tapes	1:25:49 (Pop-up)

Ricardo Sinigaglia	Sezioni "Sezioni" by "Ricardo Sinigaglia"	Riflessi	Auf Dem Nil	1:38:46 (Pop-up)
Fay Lovsky	Morpheus' Arms "Morpheus' Arms" by "Fay Lovsky"	Confetti	WEA	1:45:37 (Pop-up)
Genesis	Please Don't Ask "Please Don't Ask" by "Genesis"	Duke	Charisma	1:48:24 (Pop-up)
Robert Wyatt	Blues in Bob Minor "Blues in Bob Minor" by "Robert Wyatt"	Shleep	Hannibal	1:52:10 (Pop-up)
Los Siquicos Litoraleños	Quizas, Quizas (Perhaps, Perhaps)	Sonidos Chipadelico	Annihaya	1:57:21 (Pop-up)
Mary Halvorson & John Dietrich	My Mother's Lover	A Tangle of Stars	New Amsterdam	2:00:47 (Pop-up)
Alexander von Schlippenbach	Criss Cross	Monk's Casino	Intakt	2:02:27 (Pop-up)

Lea Bertucci + Leila Bordreuil	Stag with Lightning in Its Glare	L'Onde Souterraine	Telegraph Harp	2:10:52 (Pop-up)
Mario Diaz de Leon	Mysterium "Mysterium" by "Mario Diaz de Leon"	Cycles and Reveal	Denovali	2:17:23 (Pop-up)
David Toop	Brand New "Brand New" by "David Toop"	Mondo Black Chamber	Sub Rosa	2:30:19 (Pop-up)
Sam Gendel and Sam Wilkes	IRISH "IRISH" by "Sam Gendel and Sam Wilkes"	Music For Saxofone & Bass Guitar	Leaving	2:32:31 (Pop-up)
CHI	Twisted Camel "Twisted Camel" by "CHI"	The Original Recordings	Astral Industries	2:37:23 (Pop-up)
Electric Capablanca	Zugzwang "Zugzwang" by "Electric Capablanca"	Puzzles & Studies	Kit	2:45:35 (Pop-up)
Don Byron & Aruán Ortiz	Delphian Nuptials	Random Dances and (A)tonalities	Intakt	2:51:58 (Pop-up)
Dustin Wong	New Societies Interacting, Let's Zoom In	Fluid World Building 101 With Shaman Bambu	Hausu Mountain	2:52:26 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:04pm chresti: Hello lost opera horses that are acting like soap
	9:07pm Sam Segal: In the manner of a Chresti! Welcome!
	9:12pm Dean: I promise not to mention Steely Dan this week. (Damn!)
	9:15pm Sam Segal: I want this to be a safe space for you, Dean! Dan or no Dan!
	9:16pm Hams: this record's a knockout.
	9:20pm Chris Farrel: Dean; academic question I thought of this week that I wanted your input on. Is a story better to have a conclusive ending where there is a clear ending Or is an open ending with no real conclusion more appealing?
	9:21pm Sam Segal: Hams! Indeed, "Guitar" is a special one...especially love the whole Princess Sonata.
	9:22pm Sam Segal: Chris, if I may weigh in, the best story has a
	9:25pm Dean: My off the cuff response, Chris, due largely to the fact that I'm immersed in J. Hillis Miller's The Linguistic Moment, is that good literature never has a conclusive ending. By that I mean that the reader will never be able to conclude that "the moral of this story is" such-and-such. But I think you're referring specifically to the narrative trajectory itself: "and they all lived happily ever after" versus "and they wandered off into the sunset..." I don't think one or the other prevails. Ask an academic question, get a pseudo-academic answer.
	9:26pm Chris Farrel: Both parts of that were helpful. Thank you for your input.
	9:27pm Dean: Some great works never conclude. See, e.g., Finnegan's Wake and Dhalgren.
	9:28pm Hams: yeah, that version of "blind willie" is something else.
	9:29pm chresti: I think it depends, if you want it to be made into a blockbuster movie, then definitely leave it hanging.. Haha Sam
	9:30pm Dean: A series of blockbuster movies!
	9:31pm Chris Farrel: I can understand that. I relate my writing abilities to a scene in the Royal Tenebaums where Richie Tenebaum is in a tennis match and he removes one of his shoes and “actually I think he’s crying” But I came across several rousing ideas during my using days and could never put the puzzle together fully.
	9:32pm Chris Farrel: A joke: I believe Blockbuster went out of business but Netflix is alive and well.
	9:35pm Dean: On those rare occasions when I exhibit "writing abilities" I relate them to the last thing I just read. I'm pretty much a Zelig in that arena, not quite a copy-cat, but by no stretch an original.
	9:36pm Chris Farrel: I can understand but originality is virtually impossible under some circumstances And even then how can a person be sure.
	9:40pm Chris Farrel: Nice set so far Sam.
	9:40pm Dean: Of course. I don't mean "original" in absolute terms, but relatively speaking Dickinson is an original, like Wallace Stevens, Laurence Sterne, Rabelais, Mallarme...you know, literary oddballs whose eccentricities don't seem gratuitous or faked.
	9:42pm Sam Segal: Thanks, Chris!
	9:42pm Dean: I once flew into LFO from Denver on a layover.
	9:44pm Chris Farrel: I don’t spit on the floor.
	9:46pm Chris Farrel: Sam: when you were in Greece did you eat at any restaurants where it was custom to break your dishes on the floor what when done eating?
	9:46pm Sam Segal: While it wasn't the custom anywhere I ate, I did do it anyway, Chris!
	9:47pm Chris Farrel: Lmao. Time for Accounting goodnight to the chat.
	9:49pm Dean: I once dined at a famous-ish restaurant in Long Beach/San Pedro, CA, a really fun Greek restaurant, Papadakis, where in fact they did routinely smash plates on the floor!
	9:51pm Sam Segal: Sounds cathartic!
	9:51pm Dean: Indeed. You can't get more Greek than catharsis.
	9:58pm northguineahills: Dug that Dj Center!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: You have a dubbers heart, NGH!
	10:11pm northguineahills: We need more horse operas, but w/ Mr Ed and Francis the Talking Mule!
	10:14pm Sam Segal: Less Bojack Horseman, more Mr. Ed!
	10:15pm northguineahills: I just started binging Bojack Horseman, although dark at times, it's full of reflections of todays society and plenty of obscure easter eggs and jokes that mostly woofmooers would get.
	10:16pm northguineahills: I would hope I have a dubbers heart, I used to dj monthly at the I dub NY and Dub Dub parties: soundcloud.com...
	10:17pm Sam Segal: I have been wanting to watch Bojack for awhile. Still on my list.
	10:17pm coelacanth∅))): greetings Sam & hose people
	10:17pm Sam Segal: As is this dub set of yours, NGH!
	10:17pm coelacanth∅))): -i mean house people
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Wow, Coel, love the display name!
	10:17pm Dean: I lost my hose.
	10:18pm coelacanth∅))): ...er, i mean horse people
	10:19pm Sam Segal: People of the Hose
	10:21pm coelacanth∅))): Thanks Sam! it wasn't meant to remain but i do like it. it was a result of someone on wfmu playing sunn o))) a few weeks ago -or maybe it was something that sounded like sunn o))), i don't remember.
	10:21pm northguineahills: dub tanzende pferdespiele, jetzt mit lederhosen!
	10:22pm coelacanth∅))): (and now it's the first handle that comes up so if i don't take the extra step to enter the usual one it's this)
	10:22pm northguineahills: Every thing O'Malley does w/ Sunn o)))) is amazing (but hell to script in my music database.
	10:24pm coelacanth∅))): (((hmm have i heard O'Malley w/sunn o)))?
	10:30pm Sam Segal: I think Sun O))) released their second new album of the year recently
	10:31pm coelacanth∅))): i like sunn o))) but i especially like their collaborations
	10:32pm coelacanth∅))): this right here is crazy though! - kelele
	🥁 10:40pm WR: I thought I heard Sonny Sharrock call my name. Howdy partners!
	🥁 10:45pm WR: Mr. Segal, quite a nice spread you have. I think as first time listener that I should browse you shows in the archive.
	10:47pm coelacanth∅))): funny, i just had a Sonny Sharrock marathon earlier today ...coincidentally?
	10:47pm Sam Segal: WR, I'd be honored if you would! Glad I put out the Sonny signal for you!
	10:51pm Dean: Remarkably, when I heard the first strains of this cheesy Genesis tune I thought, "Strawbs!"
	10:57pm coelacanth∅))): i have a technical question someone here might be able to answer, if you'll pardon me. my receiver specifies a 75 ohm antenna for fm and i cannot find one that i know i had. the only dipole antennas i find on ebay that have a lead wire long enough to come close to reaching the ceiling are "300 Ohm to 75 Ohm Push-On Adapter" antennas. will this work as well? is there anything at all about it that is not as good as a straight up 75ohm wire beginning to end? is there an upside to the 300 ohm adapter?
	🥁 10:57pm WR: I could listen to Robert Wyatt sing telephone book or even recite the English alphabet.
	10:58pm doctorjazz: Time for some horsin' around.
	10:59pm Sam Segal: Happy Horse, Doctor Jazz!
	10:59pm coelacanth∅))): i'm pretty sure he DID recite the english alphabet on an early soft machine album! ("II", i think)
	🥁 11:02pm WR: Coelacanthø (holy sh!t your user name is in my text buffer as first choice for coe!) except for very demanding spec the adapter is just as good. My 2 cents...
	11:02pm coelacanth∅))): (yes, on "volume two" - "a concise british alphabet" parts 1 & 2)
	11:04pm coelacanth∅))): Thanks WR. i know little about ohms and such, i'm embarrassed to say.
	🥁 11:04pm WR: Yes, remarkably Wyatt performed the English alphabet forward and backward on that LP. Hello esteemed doctorjazz.
	11:07pm doctorjazz: Great Monk-ing!
	11:09pm coelacanth∅))): (i enjoyed that genesis track)
	11:11pm Sam Segal: Coel, your validation on that Genesis tune counts for a lot!
	🥁 11:20pm WR: Sorry, missed who you said was on bass clarinet on that Monk tune?
	11:24pm Sam Segal: That was the great Rudi Mahall
	🥁 11:31pm WR: Thank you. Feel silly to ask when I can look it up on the internet but wanted to capture the info in the comments for when I come back to the show in the archive. Heading off to sleep now. Will comment when I listen to archived shows. Cheers all.
	11:33pm northguineahills: Damnit, was watching my niece and missed Lea....
	11:33pm Sam Segal: Thanks for, WR! Glad you found Team Horse!
	11:34pm Sam Segal: There will always be more Bertucci on this show, NGH.
	11:39pm chresti: I must hit the hay, alas..goodnight horses and hoses..thanks Sam!
	11:40pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Chresti!
	11:46pm doctorjazz: Cool set! Have to go to bed now as well, thanks, Sam!
	11:47pm Sam Segal: Take her easy, Doc!
	11:48pm coelacanth∅))): ngh she rocked our world, as usual gnight WR, chresti, dr.j
	11:50pm coelacanth∅))): so, i was across the room and didn't consider that that wasn't Jon Hassell before; but i don't see his name over there
	11:53pm Sam Segal: Yeah, could have been either Sam Gendel and Sam Wilkes or CHI...both employ that Hassell sounding trumpet effect.
	12:01am coelacanth∅))): never heard of either of them. must check them out (together and, possibly, individually)
	12:01am coelacanth∅))): Thanks Sam take care y'all

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 4, 2019

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