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Favoriting July 8, 2019: Dr. Chris Gilliard on surveillance and its effects on marginalized communities

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This week: Chris Gilliard on surveillance and its effects

Tonight, Chris Gilliard on how surveillance affects marginalized communities. His scholarship concentrates on privacy, institutional tech policy, digital redlining, and the re-inventions of discriminatory practices through data mining and algorithmic decision-making, especially as these apply to college students. He holds a PhD from Purdue University’s Rhetoric and Composition Program and currently teaches at Macomb Community College.

Links to Chris Gilliard:

hypervisible.com, Chris's site

• Twitter: @hypervisible (for example, see this post)

Privacy's Not an Abstraction (Chris Gilliard in Fast Company, March 25, 2019)

Friction-Free Racism (Chris Gilliard in Real Life magazine, October 15, 2018)

There Are No Guardrails on Our Privacy Dystopia (Chris Gilliard and David Golumbia in Vice, March 9, 2018)

NUSLCLIC Welcomes Dr. Chris Gilliard (Northeastern University, May 2019)

Tech news

FBI, ICE find state driver’s license photos are a gold mine for facial-recognition searches (Drew Harwell in the Washington Post, July 7): "Agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Immigration and Customs Enforcement have turned state driver’s license databases into a facial-recognition gold mine, scanning through millions of Americans’ photos without their knowledge or consent."

The Strange Politics of Facial Recognition (Sidney Fussell in the Atlantic, June 28): "these may be the last days of privately owning our own faces."

Amazon Is Watching (Will Oremus, June 27): "Rekognition [is] a platform that uses machine learning to analyze images and video footage. Among other features, Rekognition offers the ability to match faces found in video recordings to a collection of faces in a database, as well as facial analysis technology that can pick out facial features and expressions. A 2018 report from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) highlighted how Amazon has been marketing its face recognition capabilities to law enforcement agencies, and has partnerships under way with police in Orlando, Florida, and Washington County, Oregon."

Police departments across the US are using video doorbells from Amazon-owned Ring to create an unofficial surveillance network (Business Insider, June 7): "Police departments across the US have partnered with Amazon and its subsidiary, Ring, to offer programs for free or discounted Ring smart doorbell devices to their residents. Some police departments added their own conditions to the programs that allow them to obtain recorded footage from a Ring device upon request." See also the CNet story.

Amazon's next big thing may redefine big (BBC, June 15) "[Amazon's chief technology officer] Werner Vogels doesn’t feel it's Amazon’s responsibility to make sure Rekognition is used accurately or ethically. 'That’s not my decision to make.'""

Why airport face scans are a privacy trap (Geoffrey Fowler in the Washington Post, June 10): "What’s face recognition at the airport really about? Immigration policy and efficiency." By the way, the airport facial-rec system was promptly breached.

Facial Recognition Coming To Delta Gates At MSP (CBS, June 20): "Delta Air Lines announced it will give passengers who fly out of Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport the option to use facial recognition to board their flight instead of a standard boarding pass."

WSJ article (June 20) on biometric technology in the home, what Chris & I discuss as "luxury surveillance." The articles states the tech is "expanding to every corner of the home, using body identifiers to open the door, say hello, unlock the wine cellar and reveal the screening room." Yes: everyone needs facial recognition for their wine cellar!

When Machine Learning is Facially Invalid (Frank Pasquale - a past guest - in the Communications of the ACM, Sept 2018)

Facebook lawyer argues you should have ‘no expectation of privacy’ (Graham Cluley, June 3): Facebook counsel Orin Snyder argued, "There is no invasion of privacy at all, because there is no privacy." See also the NYT story.

IBM Used NYPD Surveillance Footage To Develop Technology That Lets Police Search By Skin Color (The Intercept, Sept 6, 2018)

Legislation to suspend facial recognition in schools passes [New York] State Assembly (June 20)

The First Public Schools In The US Will Start Using Facial Recognition Next Week (Davey Alba in Buzzfeed News, May 29): "Testing of the Aegis system begins in the Lockport City School District [in New York State] next week. It will track sex offenders, students and staff who have been suspended from school, and credible threats to student safety."

America Under Watch (from Georgetown Law Center on Privacy & Technology): Face Surveillance in the United States

San Francisco Bans Facial Recognition Technology (NYT, May 14)

Why You Can No Longer Get Lost in the Crowd (Woodrow Hartzog and Evan Selinger in a NYT op-ed, April 17): "Facial recognition technology poses an immense danger to society because it can be used to overcome biological constraints on how many individuals anyone can recognize in real time. If its use continues to grow and the right regulations aren’t instituted, we might lose the ability to go out in public without being recognized by the police, our neighbors and corporations."

Duke MTMC is a dataset of surveillance camera footage of students on Duke University campus: "Duke MTMC (Multi-Target, Multi-Camera) is a dataset of surveillance video footage taken on Duke University's campus in 2014 and is used for research and development of video tracking systems, person re-identification, and low-resolution facial recognition." See also this story on the project. And see Chris Gilliard's comment.

Brainwash is a dataset of webcam images taken from the Brainwash Cafe in San Francisco: "The Brainwash dataset is unique because it uses images from a publicly available webcam that records people inside a privately owned business without their consent. No ordinary cafe customer could ever suspect that their image would end up in dataset used for surveillance research and development, but that is exactly what happened to customers at Brainwash Cafe in San Francisco. Although Brainwash appears to be a less popular dataset, it was notably used in 2016 and 2017 by researchers affiliated with the National University of Defense Technology in China for two research projects on advancing the capabilities of object detection to more accurately isolate the target region in an image."

Microsoft deletes massive 'MC Celeb' facial recognition data set (June 8): "Many of the faces included in the data were not those of public figures or celebrities. Indeed, security journalists and privacy advocates were among those included, such as Shoshana Zuboff, author of [The Age of] Surveillance Capitalism."

Thread by @halhod (June 28): "Technology is eroding one of the great levees of human society - the ability to move around the physical world anonymously."

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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techtomeos and Techtuliets!
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geezerette:

Room-jumping.
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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
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Dave Miss:

Howdy all from Prospect Park
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melinda:

Hi everyone
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chresti:

Hello Marktonic
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Bas NL:

Mark! Techtonicones!
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geezerette:

Chresti, nice!
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queems:

hey all
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Mark. What techtragedies will befall us tonight?
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brycepunk1:

Glad to be aboard tonight, Mark. Love your show!
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ultradamno:

Some artist assured me that is not a pipe.
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geezerette:

Ultra, heh!
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Phillippe Bastille:

Hi everyone! This topic reminds me of the show Kimzilla did on face-blind people. quite the opposite
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ultradamno:

And a current one with Jordan Peele
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

A little before even the Digital Takeover - there was this book when I was in SoCal about Society becoming very Unsocial indeed... :
www.amazon.com...
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ultradamno:

"Button, Button" en.wikipedia.org...
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chresti:

Never saw that one
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Fuzzy:

"i'm at your house right now -- call me."
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herb.nyc:

wow, that is a scary Twilight Zone episode.
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Franco Twinkie:

The world and all it's paradoxes - past, present and future were explained on The Twilight Zone. Right?
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Ike:

Ah, finally, some respect for the awesome '80s Twilight Zone!
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melinda:

Luxury Surveillance is a good term
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Ike:

For books on surveillance, see also: smile.amazon.com...
(My use of an Amazon link is a bit sarcastic... but if any of you *do* buy this book there, choose Auricle Communications a.k.a. WFMU as the Smile beneficiary!)
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JerryH:

Lag is killing me. Any tips on best way to listen via public wi-fi/chromebook?
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herb.nyc:

civil rights activists, gotta keep a watch on them. also, those who protest at nyc's transit events. the MTA was shown videotaping the protestors. a "simple" form of surveillance.
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northguineahills:

Cue Rockwell's - "Somebody's Watching Me.
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Dave Miss:

You are being watch-Saturn Bar art, New Orleans
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yeah - Zuckerberg's 'Privacy is overrated.' - too much like - I do nothing wrong I don't need Civil Rights... 1st thing goes wrong w/ Authority - that tune changes instantly.
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Mark Hurst:

Hi all! @Ngh, you guessed the outtro tune tonight!
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JakeGould:

Hello!
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Mark Hurst:

Just posted the Duke MTMC link on the playlist. Bottom of Tech News.
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ultradamno:

The Boys Next Door/Birthday Party had a fine "Somebody's Watching" song. www.youtube.com...
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JakeGould:

@Ike: The original short story ending was clearly tons better.
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northguineahills:

@Mark: I win the Techtonic prize of the night (bragging rights).
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I wonder how identical twins affect the datasets?
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northguineahills:

That's why I feed information noise into any algorithmic systems. Of course, I'm constantly researching everything possible, so, I like throwing a spanner in the works all the time...
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JoeC:

Interesting show. BTW, started reading The Age of Surveillance Capitalism. Thanks for bringing this book to light.
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northguineahills:

(at my bros' alexa, I constantly spew random nonsense to it) (although, that's rather normal for me as you can tell by my posts, here).
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northguineahills:

@Ken: My bros. are identical Twins (and the exact opposite of me).
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, ultradamno, will give it a listen.
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JakeGould:

If facial recognition focuses on the eyes, does that mean the blind are king?
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melinda:

I didn’t realize that the San Francisco ordinance only applied to the government, that’s disappointing.
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geezerette:

Things are so far advanced already that it's nearly overwhelming.
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Mark Hurst:

@Jake - in my interview with Scott Urban two weeks ago, he suggested we might try walking around with our eyes closed.
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melinda:

I agree that aiming for less bias just accepts surveillance as a given. So as long as we’re being surveilled equally what’s the problem, right?
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herb.nyc:

walking with eyes closed, ha! while walking over the Manhattan bridge recently, I started walking backwards (to exercise the leg muscles a little differently).
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Alexa is big brother:

Funny things about surveillance- even apps like Slack tell people whether you are working in the office or 'remotely" - You show is a must listen for me!
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chresti:

I see a future in mask design
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Mark Hurst:

Some people have pointed out that Big Tech is really just trying to frame facial rec as inevitable, and so how should we modify it ever so slightly...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Turn on your smartphone's camera and walk around with your face pointing down, staring down at the phone.
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chresti:

..reflective face paint
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ultradamno:

"Nothing is inevitable as long as you stand up, look it in the eye, and say "You're evitable" - The character Fred on the television show Angel
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JakeGould:

@Mark: What if we invented a device, like a cage with a rat in it, that could just chew our eyes out instead? I heard about that at the Chestnut Tree Café.
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geezerette:

Glittery eye shadow all over your face.
Everyone a drag queen regardless of gender.
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Dean:

Oh, shoot, I've missed a good show. In the event nobody mentioned it, here's a fun read about ways to upset surveillance and other challenges to privacy: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/obfuscation It's kind of like a high-tech Steal This Book.
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geezerette:

Jake, cheers to victory gin!
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Neptune Beach Florida:

Does Google monitor dating apps? Will they chaperone my date?
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geezerette:

"Smart Cities"= dumb people. As in speechless.
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queems:

i've noticed that it is very difficult to get others (family, boyfriend, friends, etc.) to take things like facial recognition & surveillance seriously
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ultradamno:

Like the ones with the commercials that boast you can remotely see criminals and yell at them (while presumably being spied on yourself)?
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Vanessa bikes:

there was an incident in my town, Long Hill township a few weeks ago. a neighbor's Ring alerted them and captured video a person wearing a mask, hood pulled up and gloves, trying there door at 4am. this lead to the pursuit and capture of 5 people 4 under age (and unarmed) who had stolen a car and a puppy. this seems like a good use.. but still not getting one for my house.
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geezerette:

Mark, thanks for the weekly reality check.
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chresti:

commercials on Saturday morning TV would sternly tell children to go tell their mother to buy a certain brand of cereal, in the 60s
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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JakeGould:

@Vanessa bikes: And a plain old video camera with a buffer that you store locally could have “detected” that. The issue is Ring is networked and harvests data and sends it to… “The Cloud.”
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northguineahills:

@Vanessa bikes: I don't even lock my car (standard transmission), or my house (and I live five blocks from a lower income area).
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vanessa bikes:

oh, my comment got cut, they were caught with a stolen car and puppy. seems like a good use of technology, but I still won't be getting a Ring
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Dave Miss:

Great interview!
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Chris!
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northguineahills:

I don't live in fear (minus the lack of job, currently). But. I know my neighbors, and talk to them all the time. I talk to people on the sidewalk. It pays to be social.
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Vanessa bikes:

haha, I have been trying to remember to lock my car (an EV) since the incident.
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northguineahills:

Thanks Chris and Mark!
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Tommy in Neversink:

I think Mark is throwing up a smokescreen because WFMU is surveilling us..they seem to somehow know all the music I like
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queems:

thanks mark & all!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Your comment came across OK, Vanessa. The app only displays the first five lines. On the web page, it shows the whole thing.
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northguineahills:

(I do lock my bike, when out and about).
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
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listener james from westwood:

From 21 years ago, now horrifically prescient:
politics.theonion.com...
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ultradamno:

Ah, the eighties, when people were still had healthy paranoia.
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northguineahills:

Now if I can Nostradamus next week's outro!
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ultradamno:

Strike the 'were' from that sentence
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