WFMU: Strength Through Failure with Fabio: Playlist from November 8, 2018

Listener comments!
	3:04pm The Oscar: Good failure to you all!
	👻 3:05pm chresti: Happy failure to you from Los Angeles!
	3:05pm diciassette: blue blue electric blue that's the colour of my room where i will live
	3:06pm Stanley: I do wonder sometimes
	3:06pm Carmichael: Hi Ho Fabio and all fellow failures out there.
	3:06pm Lixiviated Life: lets get low
	3:07pm The Oscar: A few years ago we invited some friends over to help paint our kitchen blue and you best BELIEVE we were insufferable with this song.
	👻 3:08pm Rev. Turnip Druid: WHAT IT IS!
	3:10pm crateslinger: At the risk of social ostracism and with apologies to Fabio: They're not mill towns anymore and unless they are stops on the antiquer's highway then most large towns in central New England are drug-riddled ghost towns. Pittsfield, Worcester, Springfield, Holyoke, Brattleboro, Watertown. I'm being anecdotal and maybe a bit facetious, but I stand by this. My family is still up there. I was up there last week.
	👻 3:11pm Ken From Hyde Park: EFS = Excessive Failure Syndrome
	3:12pm The Oscar: @crateslinger Having grown up in central Mass in the '80s/'90s, I can vouch for this and then some.
	3:12pm zpulpa: I agree @crateslinger, though I hope that the future can bring a brighter life to that area. Strength through failure as they say..... maybe not funny
	3:15pm crateslinger: Fabio is on. Let the weekend begin!
	3:15pm Ike: Is that why White River Junction looked so sad the last time I passed through there? Was that a mill town too?
	3:15pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Crateslinger-you are describing most of the small towns along route 5/20 in NY. They have quaint looking downtowns but they are far far far away from being a cutesy cool downtown with lovely nice diners and cool cafes. They are just run-down places that are really kind of no fun whatsoever. Hackettstown NJ is a booming metropolis in comparison to these places. Everybody moved to the suburbs.
	3:17pm Chris from DC: Nice segue.
	3:17pm spodiodi: heck yeah
	3:17pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: A Long, long, LONG time ago. It's not the 60's anymore, that was their heyday. Only College towns can make these successful, and even the area around University of Buffalo South is pretty much a failure. The Elmwood Strip near Buff State is thriving. That's about it for college-towny areas around Buffalo.
	3:17pm blee: showroom dummies
	3:18pm P-90: Ciao Fabio and i fallimenti!
	3:18pm crateslinger: White River Junction still has a bit of life because of Dartmouth across the river, but yeah it's depressed. Upstate New York is a wasteland now, but i can't speak to the past.
	3:19pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: People are leaving NY state in droves for North Carolina and Florida.
	3:20pm tim from champaign: Mash this up with Capt Beefheart and get "I Love You Big Showroom Dummies"
	3:21pm Chris from DC: Making note of that Larva album for later. Really nice.
	3:21pm crateslinger: wish I could leave. I miss the woods. NYC was fun when I was a squatter kid throwing bottles at cops. Now it's just a college campus for every American town's most beautiful and gifted children and I'm just a lame old dad.
	3:21pm Ike: Was Kraftwerk inspired by this DW from 1970 that scared the hell out of kids across the UK, or was it just a coincidence? www.youtube.com...
	👻 3:22pm chresti: haha tim!
	3:23pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Crateslinger-kids are now getting apartments in Harlem as the last outpost of almost-affordable apartment in Manhattan. ALL of Manhattan is gentrified is my take on it. I am sure there are pockets of poverty in Manhattan, but I'll bet they are rapidly shrinking. Gentrification endgame I guess.
	3:24pm crateslinger: You can't get a free standing single family home anywhere in the five boros for less that $500k. Maybe Staten Island. Maybe, and not for long.
	👻 3:25pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Yay the Reinhardt.
	3:25pm spodiodi: crateslinger, I have similar feelings about San Francisco
	3:26pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Buffalo is WAY cheaper to live. You can get a house on the border of Buffalo for $50k if you so choose.
	👻 3:27pm chresti: Same thing in LA-SF big time
	3:27pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Jonas Reinhardt reminds me of Forbidden Planet.
	👻 3:28pm chresti: Oakland is also getting expensive
	👻 3:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: Jersey City, NJ, is growing up, too. www.nytimes.com...
	3:29pm spodiodi: Ike, nice DW reference. Don't think I've seen that one, or at least haven't seen it in a long time
	3:29pm crateslinger: JC is crazy! That's where all the finance guys went after 9-11.
	3:29pm SSS: Perhaps USA is the modern day Forbidden Planet, yes?
	3:29pm spodiodi: Oakland, sure... even Vallejo is like 300%+ than it was a few years ago. Nutty. I'm planning my escape
	3:30pm Chris from DC: DC has gotten absurd too.
	3:30pm brainiac: The failure of income inequity
	3:30pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Even around Buffalo my neighbor the contractor says all new built houses cost $350k and up. Oy vey!
	👻 3:31pm Rev. Turnip Druid: It costs three million dollars to stand still for five minutes on any street-corner in DC. FOUR million during brunch hours.
	3:31pm zpulpa: It feels kind of odd and confusing to try and live in a city, being a recent art school grad with no real career prospects... I am thinking I may move back to the southwest sooner than later, so many coastal cities seem unlivable, without being a total asshead to folks living there over generations.
	3:31pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Well, hopefully manufacturing jobs will come back and the middle class will thrive as wealth creation comes back.
	3:31pm zpulpa: hahahaha
	3:32pm crateslinger: I've been looking at van modifications for a while now. I could live in a van. I don't know about my wife, two kids, two dogs, two cats, and three birds, but I could live in a van.
	3:32pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Zpulpa-if I may, Las Cruces NM is the high desert filled with nice people and its affordable and there are cool things to do there. I went to NMSU! There are also a few people that could afford to buy your art!
	👻 3:32pm chresti: in SF, Divisadero St, where my parents bought a tiny condo for 50k in 1989-90, is now overrun with Google buses. Popeye's is still there though
	3:33pm SSS: Down by the river?
	3:33pm over it: this is called the way things go I think.
	3:33pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: I was being sincere about the manufacturing jobs. I was going to start a machine shop.
	3:33pm Linda Lee: the fix was in for nyc when i left in '94, dears. cannot imagine why people insist on hanging on now ~ let alone how.
	👻 3:34pm chresti: brainiac- exactly
	3:34pm crateslinger: absolutely down by the river. good for the washin up.
	3:35pm zpulpa: @crateslinger I moved to baltimore in my small RV last summer and made it work for a whole year before getting a proper room, I saved enough to travel in europe working part time,,,, but froze my ass off. @Wild Neil\|\|Peace All yeah! southern NM is a cool place! I dream about it, I just wonder about finding some friends... friends are everywhere I like to remind myself.
	3:35pm Chris from DC: Also in DC if you stand still too long someone will build a new condo on top of you.
	👻 3:35pm Rev. Turnip Druid: What Linda L. said. I did my best NYC lingering/loitering in mid-1980s. Can't relate to anything I see there now.
	3:35pm Linda Lee: we'll need to forget about the nuclear family as the prime economic unit of measure going forward. just can't work now.
	👻 3:35pm Rev. Turnip Druid: also: holy crap that Lava
	3:36pm SSS: HOT LAVA!!!
	3:36pm Webhamster Henry: M Appeal!
	3:36pm northguineahills: @LL: I left in '17, rent was going up 25%/yr, the only jobs in my field were tech freelance or gov't subcontracting. It just wasn't tenable. After my cultural and spiritual sanctuary closed in '07, I knew it was only a matter of time before Brooklyn would essentially die and spit me out.
	3:37pm northguineahills: (cultural and spiritual sanctuary being Tonic).
	👻 3:37pm Rev. Turnip Druid: larva. not lava. Consider my previous immaculately edited.
	👻 3:37pm chresti: Haha Chris!
	3:37pm Lixiviated Life: i sometimes think of my friend's parents who were married at 18, 19, or 20 yrs old. the difference between them then and kids now is the ability to get a factory job fresh out of high school. towns like paterson nj were healthy working class mill towns. when the jobs left, they began to fall apart.
	3:37pm Linda Lee: when the place no longer serves us, we can stop serving the place.
	3:37pm Webhamster Henry: Sorry! Wrong spies!
	3:38pm SSS: Opps....not really paying attention
	3:38pm Linda Lee: tuning in for the first time in weeks right now. i've been 'away'.
	3:38pm Lixiviated Life: @Linda Lee Happy to see you. Hope all is well.
	3:38pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Lixivated Life- I know of a machine shop that is automated that successfully competes against China on price. That could happen here more if more people would simply do it.
	3:38pm northguineahills: Now I just have WFMU....
	3:38pm spodiodi: WB, Linda Lee -- was wondering
	3:39pm Linda Lee: testing the waters here, LL. thanks. we'll see how it goes. :-)
	👻 3:40pm chresti: That's great!
	3:40pm Linda Lee: thank you spodiodi. still not quite myself. not sure who else i'd be however! :-)
	3:41pm Rich in Washington: That tears it. After years and years of trying to find the perfect xmas gift for my mom (and always striking out), I'm buying her a Kraftwerk album this year.
	3:41pm spodiodi: WFMU needs to start a new country.
	3:42pm spodiodi: new state?
	3:42pm Rich in Washington: I think Man Machine, because Mom's from the generation of bands wearing coordinated outfits.
	👻 3:42pm Rev. Turnip Druid: I'd renounce my citizenship in a heartbeat if FMUland were to become a reality.
	3:42pm Polyus: I was listening to a podcast about Low recently, and I have to admit that there are a bunch of little production touches on there I never really noticed before. It was cool to then go back and listen to it with new ears.
	3:42pm northguineahills: My parents hate most of my music, but while visiting, my mother came in last xmas and I was playing Micah's show w/ some weird cult stuff, and my mom said, "this is really nice". I nearly fainted.
	3:43pm northguineahills: (Micah from WFMU)
	3:43pm Guy Walker: You mom like it because it sounded clean, Fabio. It is what they said about the Beatles when they heard the Stones, "at least their clean".
	3:43pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Larva reminds me of Can. Sorta.
	3:43pm tim from champaign: When I was in High School I was playing the Revolting Cocks "Beers Steers and Queers" 12". My dad walked in the room, listened for a minute and shook his head. I remember thinking "I know this sucks, honest, I do".
	👻 3:43pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Also, yes Capt.Fabio. This obsessive direction (german electronic etc) is highly encouraged. Do continue.
	3:43pm zpulpa: I mailed my grandma a Laraaji CD earlier this year and she just emailed me saying she loved it!
	3:44pm Lixiviated Life: My first Kraftwerk listen was Autobhan. A few of us were under the influence in somebodies apartment while thir parents were away.
	3:44pm spodiodi: always a safe journey on the SS Failure
	3:44pm Linda Lee: i adore 'music of mind control'. amazing content.
	3:44pm Guy Walker: Yeah, Can. That Saw album opens with a sound like this.
	3:44pm Cmurtha: I see I missed a really eclectic conversation about American decline, gentrification, and pop music. Should have come on earlier.
	3:45pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Are we going to hear some secret East German Olympic Training Music from 1980? I bought a house is a good public school district. Value of home is increasing-for now.
	3:45pm Linda Lee: we kids thought 'autobahn' was hilarious.
	👻 3:45pm jmr3: I love the cover of this Harmonia record - the giant looming heroic and ominous detergent bottle!
	3:45pm Ike: Yes, you have to automate. Other than that and maybe some holistic single-origin hipster BS goods, manufacturing is NEVER coming back. Forget about it! It's even starting to leave China and go to even cheaper places like Cambodia and Bangladesh. And it's severely fracked up China, too: www.amazon.com...
	3:46pm Enougj: Watussssssi
	👻 3:46pm Rev. Turnip Druid: re: american decline -- The reactionary patriot types used to adore the old slogan LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. .. But they failed to tell us that their capitalist nightmare stormtroopers would make it prohibitively expensive & complicated to leave.
	3:46pm Rich in Washington: My first Kraftwerk album was Autobahn on 8-Track Quad. A friend in high school's dad had it and a Quad deck in a box in their garage and they just gave it to me. Crazy sounding.
	3:47pm Linda Lee: i loved beers steers & queers though. had to.
	3:47pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Ike-ah, the race for the bottom, China labor costs. Yep. Saw that coming 20 years ago. We need men like Henry Ford again with his $5 a day so men could buy his cars.
	3:47pm spodiodi: drop?
	3:47pm zpulpa: maybe building sea walls will be the big save....
	3:47pm northguineahills: Hey if Sealand can do it, so can we. What's the Swedish artist self-proclaimed kingdom that issue's passports? (they're also musicians)>
	3:47pm The Oscar: My parents tried playing Kraftwerk for my cousin when he was maybe four, and it TERRIFIED him. For me, they waited until I was ten, and I loved it.
	👻 3:47pm Rev. Turnip Druid: AND MAKE THE DOLPHINS PAY FOR IT!
	3:48pm spodiodi: SF has one coming
	3:48pm Matt: The Pavlonian in me keeps waiting for the dj to cut in here..
	3:48pm spodiodi: lol RTD
	3:48pm SSS: I have a small (very) machine shop. Two CNC machines. I make most of my income doing design work on a constituting basis.
	3:48pm Webhamster Henry: @ngh Ellgaland-Vargaland!
	3:49pm Rich in Washington: It's the rise of the investor class that seemed to spur on the exploitation of everything with a scorched earth fervor. At least people like Ford, uber capitalist that he was, was smart enough to know when not to crap in the well.
	3:49pm spodiodi: hear, hear, Rich in Washington
	3:50pm Linda Lee: he also had a domestic well.
	👻 3:50pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ZUCKERZEIT!
	3:50pm crateslinger: One reason to stay in NYC... when they close the doors and people in the heartland start fighting over gasoline, we'll still get our rations.
	3:50pm Chris from DC: Cluster!
	3:51pm SSS: Ford essentially created the contractor employment situation we have today.
	3:51pm Linda Lee: unfortunately, since nothing is actually produced in nyc it won't be much fun there either.
	3:51pm spodiodi: Zuckersheise needs to go find his own Sealand, and GTFO of here
	3:51pm Fredericks: It's my understanding that there's only three days worth of food in New York City at any given time.
	3:52pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Rich in W-yep! @SSS-can you email me about your experience doing this please? @Crateslinger-"The name's Plisken!"
	3:52pm Cmurtha: Rev I have only ever lived in an America steeped in decline. I'm not old enough to have seen the start. I not too long ago listened to Jimmy Carter's "Crisis of Concise" speech and despite the oritentalist silliness, his forward thinking and dare I say genuine reflection and commenting on what he saw as a problem was so heart breaking to me. I think the hen's have just come to roost on cupidity and the good old colonial boomerang, but that's a talk for another time.
	3:53pm crateslinger: Nothing is produced here in the city, but it will always come here where the money and power and progressive votes are. Nobody in the heartland actually grows anything. It's all done by five guys with machines.
	3:53pm Linda Lee: & we saw how incredibly easy it is to lock down & isolate nyc on 9/11. almost immediate on order.
	3:54pm Chris from DC: I have a real urge to see Escape from New York again now.
	👻 3:55pm chresti: SF is like that-everything piped or shipped in
	3:55pm crateslinger: I am like a reverse prepper. The city will thrive like Hunger Games. Everybody else is shit out of luck.
	3:55pm spodiodi: pooped* in FTFY
	3:56pm crateslinger: Don't get me wrong if you've got 100 acres and your own private army - you'll probably be fine, but folks who rely on cheap gas and Walmart are in for a surprise.
	3:56pm Polyus: Rabid anti-Semite and member of the Third Reich Henry Ford? Sheesh I hope we have better examples of capitalists than that.
	3:56pm spodiodi: In SF, everything is pooped in.
	3:56pm Linda Lee: but aren't we're speaking about a hypothetical future when we'll be forced back to self-sufficiency? land, water, labor. there's just not enough of any of it in the city to support it. you think the big money will hang out for love of new york? hell, they're only there part time as is!
	3:56pm Polyus: “Honorary” member, sorry
	3:57pm brainiac: Shout out and big ups to diciassette in O-town. Just dug the swingin' video on yer AV page, and it made my day! https://youtu.be/IYnmSAtZuB0
	3:58pm crateslinger: Trucks and trains protected by drones. I'm sure the food will get boring, but I'm no gourmand. There's enough to support the cities if everybody else dies.
	3:58pm Linda Lee: that's as far as i go with Dystopialand for now.
	3:58pm Polyus: Also, crateslinger I think you underestimate us here in the heartland.
	3:58pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Polyus-I mean Ford the Industrialist, that role. Not sure why he took up writing and Politics. I have fishing gear, we will eat, but very slowly.
	3:59pm Linda Lee: kind of a big 'if' there, crateslinger :-D
	3:59pm brainiac: Ford was barely literate.
	3:59pm crateslinger: A LOT of people will die. I know that's dramatic, but I have no faith in humanity. Polyus - I hope you've got land, guns and friends.
	4:00pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Ford was a mechanical genius also. He could fix pocket watches at age 12.
	4:01pm tim from champaign: Sounds like Cluster and Eno borrowed a Gristleizer. There's that woozy ominous electronics going on underneath.
	👻 4:01pm chresti: Land is fine if you have water
	4:01pm Linda Lee: i just love the fact that we can hang out & dribble on about hypotheticals. especially yours truly.
	👻 4:03pm Rev. Turnip Druid: top-shelf set there, mister.
	👻 4:03pm chresti: Oh yeah-Linda, love it!
	4:03pm crateslinger: Linda Lee, I have been told by immigrant friends that the whole apocalyptic crawling over the smoking garbage with a shotgun in your hand is a strictly American fantasy.
	4:04pm Linda Lee: of course it is.
	4:05pm fred: @ngh: funny you should ask about Elgaland-Vargaland on this very show's playlist. Look who's in charge of the Ministry of Airwaves: elgaland-vargaland.org...
	4:06pm SSS: But isn't that what is going on in Venezuela?
	4:07pm Rich in Washington: I fear it being more like the disintegration of the Balkan States, with richer, more industrious districts doing just OK but sort of isolated, and rural places becoming lawless, crumbling infrastructure, like something out of Children of Men meets Deliverance.
	4:07pm Rich in Washington: but they're still be Netflix and Hulu.
	👻 4:07pm chresti: nice no-nonsense, basic web design- Elgaland
	4:08pm Rich in Washington: People living in dumpsters but with newspapers selling it like it's some hip urban trend with youngsters.
	4:09pm crateslinger: I have a friend who went through the snipers and death in Sarajevo. He said that gold was worthless. You couldn't get a cigarette for a krugerrand. Ammo was the thing.
	4:10pm crateslinger: and food. Everybody wanted food but everybody would trade for ammo.
	4:10pm crateslinger: Not sure how many krugerrands he was walking around with.
	👻 4:10pm chresti: mention of politicians, I make the Lurch "ehrrrrrrh" sound
	4:11pm Linda Lee: just can't imagine those with the means to bail not doing so.
	4:13pm crateslinger: The difference between Venezuela and here is we fantasize about it while it is actually happening there.
	4:13pm Linda Lee: if new york has nothing special for them, off they go.
	4:14pm Webhamster Henry: You and go depress yourself by reading James Howard Kunstler's World Made By Hand novels.
	4:14pm Linda Lee: thanks, i've already had mine.
	4:16pm brainiac: @fred: Can't figur out why they would put a neurosurgeon from Florida in charge of the airwaves.... ;) https://www.google.com/search?q=Fabio+Roberti&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
	4:16pm Linda Lee: Kunstler is good though.
	4:18pm Chris from DC: His commentary on current events won't cheer you up either.
	4:19pm Polyus: Oh hey Fabio - do I dare ask if you have seen the new Suspiria yet or are you opposed on principle? I’m not sure if I would call it “good” but I was oddly entertained.
	👻 4:19pm chresti: spodiodi- a lot of kids land there with flowers in their hair, end up blasting their brains out with drugs- mostly around Haight st and the Tenderloin
	4:20pm Webhamster Henry: Kunstler is cranky - but scary . I think we'll be busy dealing with climate issues which will hit before the peak oil crisis. His rants are kind of predictable, but reasonable in a legal sense. And I like his architecture criticism.
	4:21pm crateslinger: I think I made up that part about trading ammo in Sarajevo, but the food, gold and cigarettes bit is true. And people were starving. I'm out of here. Apologies for my part in this conversation. I'm not a grim person. To the motorcycle! Good night.
	4:21pm Welsh Rarebit: Man, that Hosono track was awesome. It reminds me of the audio equivalent of Isamu Noguchi (I loved his sculptural and design work). Hosono was in YMO, right?
	4:23pm northguineahills: @fred: haHA: That was exactly what my brain was trying to conjure. I had no idea who the master of airwaves was before, thanks!
	4:25pm steveo: that piece reminded me of a bicycle i saw last night with three different blinky lights, all with different flash patterns at different tempos
	👻 4:27pm chresti: remember the speakers that would flash different colors?
	👻 4:28pm jmr3: @steveo - are you in Fort Lauderdale? You just described me on my commute home.
	4:28pm Fabio: @ Polyus: Yes, I saw it and I felt the same way. It's not a "good" movie, with a lot of plot issues and things that just don't work. But I liked Tilda Swinton (always great) and the cinematography and sets and choreography were all excellent, but it left me cold in the end. The big dance satanic ritual scene towards the end was fantastic visually, with the exception of the "monster" demon witch or whatever that fat hideous thing was supoposed to be, but it wasn't scary or even creepy -- which is what you should be getting from Suspiria! and the political asides from radio and TV that were supposed to make some sort of connections -- to what exactly?) were basically useless...
	4:29pm steveo: @j: nyc
	👻 4:30pm chresti: I can't watch heads exploding
	4:30pm steveo: this also rocks (or something better than rocks)
	4:31pm Chris from DC: Ok, this one's a clicky show.
	👻 4:31pm chresti: rocking dirge
	👻 4:31pm Rev. Turnip Druid: what they rock'd & click'd.
	4:32pm brainiac: I would like to listen to this on flashing speakers.
	4:32pm The Oscar: @Fabio That's pretty much my take on it-- I poured a couple thousand words into a review and I still can't tell you weather I liked it, but the stuff that was good was very good.
	4:32pm fred: @ngh: I read about that while waiting in line to get a passport, years ago. I didn't get it, the quota was reached way before my turn
	4:32pm Fredericks: Watching The Autons Activate while listen to Kohn. Intense.
	4:32pm Devin B.: similarly arockin' and aclickin'
	4:34pm steveo: turning it up a little more just in case
	👻 4:34pm chresti: this reminds me of a Death in Vegas cd I have somewhere
	4:34pm Welsh Rarebit: DAE remember the name of the film with Sam Neill and Isabelle Adjani (spelling) set in Berlin? The actors play a couple where the wife more or less leaves Neill's character for a demon or some other entity.
	👻 4:35pm Ken From Hyde Park: Watching the sun set with Fabio is nice this time of year.
	4:35pm The Oscar: Also, on the subject of movies, is anyone else as depressed as I am by the cancellation of FilmStruck? Any last-minute viewing recommendations before it disappears into the ether?
	👻 4:37pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ...and I had JUST discovered FilmStruck on th'Roku, only a few months ago. Had no idea it existed. Amassed a huge watch-queue in no time.
	4:37pm Joe McG: @Welsh: I think that's "Possession."
	4:37pm Chris from DC: Welsh Rarebit, Possession
	4:37pm steveo: if you're wondering what to get me for christmas a cello would be fine
	4:37pm greyscale: @Welsh Rarebit... The name of that movie is "Possession" directed by Andrzej Żuławski... great movie, especially Adjani scene in the subway....
	4:38pm wilbur twinhorse: oscar, check out robert downey sr.'s early 16mm films
	4:39pm The Oscar: @RTD If you haven't seen it, I recommend A Page of Madness-- mindblowing silent Japanese horror from the '20s, with a new score by the Alloy Orchestra.
	4:39pm fred: Speaking of devastating losses, the Free Music Archive will disappear soon. Like tomorrow
	4:39pm Welsh Rarebit: Ahh that's it; sorta thought that was the title but don't have a browser at hand to check it out. I remember the subway scene vividly.
	4:39pm The Oscar: @wilbur Ooh, good call. Love me some Putney Swope.
	4:40pm tim from champaign: Funny this is called Ice Cream Man because I hear the Cramps' Garbage Man in there.
	👻 4:40pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Valerie and her Week of Wonders is on th'Struck, I believe. Thanks to Pas Musique of comment-board fame for pushing that one on me a while back. & thanks Oscar: will look it up!
	4:40pm Fabio: @ Oscar: check out Kanopy. lots of good stuff there. on filmstruck check out a few of Seijun Suzuki's films, particular faves: Branded to Kill, Story of Prostitute and Tokyo Drifter.
	4:41pm steveo: @chresti i don't think i remember the flashing speakers; something akin to "visualization" in itunes?
	4:42pm wilbur twinhorse: this is pre putney, "two tons of turquoise to taos tonite, babo 73, and something else(a doc of singles bars in ny).
	4:42pm The Oscar: @Fabio Ooh, I've heard good things! Not sure if my library system supports it, but it definitely sounds worth looking into.
	👻 4:44pm chresti: they were around in the early seventies- pretty cheap, not sure if the flashing actually corresponded with the music
	4:45pm Webhamster Henry: in re: FMA: cheyenne_h on 11/08/2018 at 12:38PM Update: Closing Date Pushed to Nov 16 Due to traffic, the site's been up and down today. Please DO NOT try to scrape the site, friends! We will keep all the music available here until it is available at archive.org, where you can continue to explore the collection, download (even different audio formats!) and mark stuff as 'favorites'! Thanks for all the love and support you've given thus far. Donations help in the short term. We are in talks with a couple of orgs who might be able to help us out. Watch this space for details. If you have skills to offer, are part of an interested organization who wants to help FMA, or have other feedback, please use our form in the post below.
	4:46pm The Oscar: I'm literally thinking of taking a day off work next week to try to make a dent in my watchlist. I've meant to watch Daisies forever.
	4:49pm Dave in Vermont: I just saw that doc last night.
	4:50pm spodiodi: enjoyed both in the same order
	👻 4:51pm Rev. Turnip Druid: th'Kubin on these fair shores!
	👻 4:53pm chris: wings of desire = must see movie, imho.
	4:54pm Linda Lee: yes it is, chris. absolutely and often.
	4:54pm Chris from DC: Loop-related!
	4:54pm fred: Yeah, don't try to get everything from the FMA right now. But if you really want to, go there instead and get over a hundred thousand tracks without stressing the FMA's remaining bandwidth (download fma_full.zip): github.com...
	👻 4:54pm Rev. Turnip Druid: NO CHEESE DOODLES! NO CHIPS! Even in the cinema, can't deal with having food/drinks; impossible to dissolve into alternate realities if you're tied down to ugly bodily functions like eatin'.. ... one Rev's opinion.
	4:55pm Dave in Vermont: go to the cinema!
	4:55pm wilbur twinhorse: yeah, fabio, like alex in clockwork orange with his eyes wide open!
	4:55pm spodiodi: What about intermission, at least?
	4:55pm northguineahills: I watch movies that same at the theater as at home, enjoy some chronic beforehand, and enjoy some beer (I'm an expert at smuggling booze anywhere, I'm a real Jack Kennedy Jr.). MAIN! I still have my tee from robert's Hz tour!
	4:56pm northguineahills: @Rev: I usually eat sushi at the cinema (also good at smuggling in food).
	4:56pm Linda Lee: there was definitely an impact on theater audiences after home video-on-demand. we all learned to forget each other's presence.
	👻 4:57pm Rev. Turnip Druid: All bets are off during intermission. Esp.the bollywood cinemas with samosas in th'lobby...
	4:58pm Chris from DC: Love the AFI because you can get a proper beer before your film. Speaking of beer, nearing the hour...
	4:58pm northguineahills: uhhh, Jack Kennedy Sr....
	4:58pm brainiac: Vincent: I dunno, I didn't go into Burger King. But, you know what they put on French fries in Holland instead of ketchup? Jules: What? Vincent: Mayonnaise. Jules: God damn! Vincent: I seen them do it, man, they ****ing drown them in that shit.
	👻 4:59pm Rev. Turnip Druid: "....and Rose Kennedy the Dwarf..." -G.P-O.
	5:00pm northguineahills: damnit, Joe Kennedy ... (no braining today).
	👻 5:01pm chresti: I recommend having some form of thc before watching a movie
	5:02pm Chris from DC: @Brainiac And I don't mean just like in no paper cup, I'm talking about a glass of beer.
	5:06pm brainiac: The only time I act like a prepper is at the liquor store.
	5:10pm Chris from DC: Outstanding show. Archive later. Beersies be with you all.
	5:14pm Michael 98145: there are insects in the stream
	5:16pm wilbur twinhorse: if this is the first part of the second part, how many parts are there?
	👻 5:19pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Dunno about the first part of a second part, but at some point the thorax becomes the abdomen. Why fight it?
	5:20pm Carmichael: It's actually the 2nd part of the 1st part.
	5:21pm wilbur twinhorse: i like all its parts!
	👻 5:22pm Rev. Turnip Druid: So this is where the head becomes the thorax. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
	5:22pm Guy Walker: You sound like someone's grandpa (or Scrosese) talking about The Cinema which should be a non-event event. Besides, there are people with projectors and viewing rooms who are serious. Love you, man, but home viewing is where it is at.
	5:23pm brainiac: Who recorded me in the shower this morning?!?!!
	5:23pm ?: This playlist takes me right back to college, listening to WKCR's overnight show while putting together the school newspaper.
	👻 5:24pm chresti: haha Rev.
	👻 5:26pm chresti: can I come to your home cinema, Guy?
	5:31pm Guy Walker: If Fabio and Ruth say it is okay and they will come too then sure. We'll watch something that doesn't have popcorn or bathrooms in it. I watched Kanal last night.
	5:33pm TDK60: Fabio, just gettin' here.
	👻 5:33pm mrdonutsu: Loop never did chord changes!
	👻 5:34pm Rev. Turnip Druid: holy crap, this Tricoli fellow. Thanks to this very show (if memory serves), had to get that Clonic Earth LP of his, which is an infinite classic.
	5:37pm TDK60: Got to see the 'Low' part of the 'Bowie's Berlin Trilogy' show a few weeks back; by musicians from Shearwater and associated musicians. It was powerful.
	5:37pm Fabio: @ Guy: Hey there man! Don't get me wrong, I watch lots of movies at home too, but my preferred environment is in the theater. Home viewing is ok to a point, but I never get the same satisfactionas in a theater.
	5:39pm Michael 98145: have to agree with that, Fabio ...
	5:44pm northguineahills: I'll defer to the good Rev to describe this Tircoli/Ankersmit, holy smith stains!
	5:46pm spodiodi: this is great
	5:51pm Rufus J Squirrel: This movie scared the fuck out of me as a kid.
	👻 5:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: That they made a slapstick comedy of that film is one of the gravest crimes of the modern era.
	5:54pm wilbur twinhorse: Francis Lai died yesterday. Composed music for many films, mostly French.
	5:55pm TDK60: Hey Wilbur, how ya been?
	5:55pm David in London: Terrific show tonight Fabio.
	5:56pm Michael 98145: yes. thanks again, Fabio.
	5:56pm wilbur twinhorse: okey dokey so far...
	5:58pm TDK60: Floyd, man.
	5:58pm northguineahills: Happy thanks, Fabio!
	5:58pm Smokestack: Nice closing choice!
	👻 5:59pm Rev. Turnip Druid: exceptional show, boss.
	5:59pm coelacanth∅: chresti hi! regarding flashing speakers there were 3 different kinds (as far as i know) those that were random; those that had 3 colors, each corresponding respectively to high, low, and midrange frequencies; and those that had different colors that each responded to different volumes. (the lowest volume color responding to all levels, etc.) i made one once.
	5:59pm zpulpa: good bye yall! have a wonderful night! thanks for the fun conversations of end tmies ect.. :)
	5:59pm Matt: woa, almost started singing out loud....losing office mode
	5:59pm spodiodi: Thanks, Fabio!
	6:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Fabio!
	👻 6:00pm chresti: Thanks Fabio! Enjoyed your selection today! coel- cool!
	👻 6:01pm chris: gracie, Fabio!
	6:01pm northguineahills: @coel: My father had one I found in the attic in HS. I hooked it up to my mini-hi-fi.

Strength Through Failure with Fabio: Playlist from November 8, 2018

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The Failure of Noise
The Failure of Sound
The Failure of Rock
The Failure of the Avant Garde
The Failure of the Space Age
The Failure of Jazz
The Failure of Psychedelia
The Failure of Krautrock
The Failure of Electronic
The Failure of Pop
The Failure of Free-form
The Failure of the 20th Century

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November 8, 2018

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
James Last	Mr. Gianrt Man "Mr. Gianrt Man" by "James Last"	Voodoo Party	Polydor	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
David Bowie	Sound and Vision "Sound and Vision" by "David Bowie"	Low	Virgin	0:18:48 (Pop-up)
Larva	Larva Tapes Pt. 4 (Excerpt)	The Larva Tapes	Ondes Positives	0:19:55 (Pop-up)
Kraftwerk	Showroom Dummies "Showroom Dummies" by "Kraftwerk"	Trans Europe Express	Astralwerks	0:21:56 (Pop-up)
Jonas Reinhardt	Every Terminal Evening	Jonas Reinhardt	Kranky	0:24:46 (Pop-up)
Vladimir Ussachevsky	Incantation For Tape	Incantations for Tape - Precocious Noise and Early Electronica Pt. 1 (V/A)	Sound Miracle	0:27:37 (Pop-up)
Larva	Larva Tapes Pt. 4 (reprise)	The Larva Tapes	Ondes Positives	0:29:07 (Pop-up)

Harmonia	Watusi "Watusi" by "Harmonia"	Musik von Harmonia	Brain	0:42:35 (Pop-up)
Ennio Morricone	Sesso e Potere (version 2)	Macchie Solari	Digitmovies	0:47:39 (Pop-up)
Cluster	James "James" by "Cluster"	Zuckerzeit	Brain	0:49:32 (Pop-up)
David Bowie	Weeping Wall "Weeping Wall" by "David Bowie"	Low	Virgin	0:56:45 (Pop-up)
Cluster & Eno	One "One" by "Cluster & Eno"	Cluster & Eno	Sky	0:57:18 (Pop-up)

Haruomi Hosono & Tadanori Yokoo	Madam Consul General of Madras	Cochin Moon	Light In the Attic	1:13:16 (Pop-up)
Kohn	Mantra Portends "Mantra Portends" by "Kohn"	Random Patterns	Kraak	1:18:13 (Pop-up)
Maciunas Ensemble	Ice Cream Man "Ice Cream Man" by "Maciunas Ensemble"	Maciunas Ensemble	Edition Telemark	1:30:01 (Pop-up)

Main	Corona Part I "Corona Part I" by "Main"	Hz	Beggars Banquet	1:55:26 (Pop-up)
Mark Harwood and MP Hopkins	Local News	Disfigured with Abbreviations	Penultimate Press	2:04:55 (Pop-up)
Francis Plagne	First Part (Second Part)	Moss Trumpet	Penultimate Press	2:10:00 (Pop-up)
Henning Christiansen	Op. 50 Requiem Of Art (Aus "Celtic") Fluxorum Organum II (excerpt)	Op. 50 Requiem Of Art (Aus "Celtic") Fluxorum Organum II	Penultimate Press	2:28:28 (Pop-up)

Valerio Tricoli & Thomas Ankersmit	Takht-e Tâvus	Forma II	Pan-Act	2:35:21 (Pop-up)
Roman Nose	Brekekekex Koax Koax "Brekekekex Koax Koax" by "Roman Nose"	Roman Nose	Singing Knives/Human Pyramid	2:46:28 (Pop-up)
Myron Schaeffer	The Mask - Sequence 1	The Mask - Soundtracks	Ondes Positives	2:54:09 (Pop-up)
Darksmith	Times are Rough "Times are Rough" by "Darksmith"	Hatred of Sound	Second Sleep	2:55:26 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Paintbox "Paintbox" by "Pink Floyd"	The Early Years 1965-1967 Cambridge Station	Pink Floyd	2:57:25 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:04pm The Oscar: Good failure to you all!
	👻 3:05pm chresti: Happy failure to you from Los Angeles!
	3:05pm diciassette: blue blue electric blue that's the colour of my room where i will live
	3:06pm Stanley: I do wonder sometimes
	3:06pm Carmichael: Hi Ho Fabio and all fellow failures out there.
	3:06pm Lixiviated Life: lets get low
	3:07pm The Oscar: A few years ago we invited some friends over to help paint our kitchen blue and you best BELIEVE we were insufferable with this song.
	👻 3:08pm Rev. Turnip Druid: WHAT IT IS!
	3:10pm crateslinger: At the risk of social ostracism and with apologies to Fabio: They're not mill towns anymore and unless they are stops on the antiquer's highway then most large towns in central New England are drug-riddled ghost towns. Pittsfield, Worcester, Springfield, Holyoke, Brattleboro, Watertown. I'm being anecdotal and maybe a bit facetious, but I stand by this. My family is still up there. I was up there last week.
	👻 3:11pm Ken From Hyde Park: EFS = Excessive Failure Syndrome
	3:12pm The Oscar: @crateslinger Having grown up in central Mass in the '80s/'90s, I can vouch for this and then some.
	3:12pm zpulpa: I agree @crateslinger, though I hope that the future can bring a brighter life to that area. Strength through failure as they say..... maybe not funny
	3:15pm crateslinger: Fabio is on. Let the weekend begin!
	3:15pm Ike: Is that why White River Junction looked so sad the last time I passed through there? Was that a mill town too?
	3:15pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Crateslinger-you are describing most of the small towns along route 5/20 in NY. They have quaint looking downtowns but they are far far far away from being a cutesy cool downtown with lovely nice diners and cool cafes. They are just run-down places that are really kind of no fun whatsoever. Hackettstown NJ is a booming metropolis in comparison to these places. Everybody moved to the suburbs.
	3:17pm Chris from DC: Nice segue.
	3:17pm spodiodi: heck yeah
	3:17pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: A Long, long, LONG time ago. It's not the 60's anymore, that was their heyday. Only College towns can make these successful, and even the area around University of Buffalo South is pretty much a failure. The Elmwood Strip near Buff State is thriving. That's about it for college-towny areas around Buffalo.
	3:17pm blee: showroom dummies
	3:18pm P-90: Ciao Fabio and i fallimenti!
	3:18pm crateslinger: White River Junction still has a bit of life because of Dartmouth across the river, but yeah it's depressed. Upstate New York is a wasteland now, but i can't speak to the past.
	3:19pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: People are leaving NY state in droves for North Carolina and Florida.
	3:20pm tim from champaign: Mash this up with Capt Beefheart and get "I Love You Big Showroom Dummies"
	3:21pm Chris from DC: Making note of that Larva album for later. Really nice.
	3:21pm crateslinger: wish I could leave. I miss the woods. NYC was fun when I was a squatter kid throwing bottles at cops. Now it's just a college campus for every American town's most beautiful and gifted children and I'm just a lame old dad.
	3:21pm Ike: Was Kraftwerk inspired by this DW from 1970 that scared the hell out of kids across the UK, or was it just a coincidence? www.youtube.com...
	👻 3:22pm chresti: haha tim!
	3:23pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Crateslinger-kids are now getting apartments in Harlem as the last outpost of almost-affordable apartment in Manhattan. ALL of Manhattan is gentrified is my take on it. I am sure there are pockets of poverty in Manhattan, but I'll bet they are rapidly shrinking. Gentrification endgame I guess.
	3:24pm crateslinger: You can't get a free standing single family home anywhere in the five boros for less that $500k. Maybe Staten Island. Maybe, and not for long.
	👻 3:25pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Yay the Reinhardt.
	3:25pm spodiodi: crateslinger, I have similar feelings about San Francisco
	3:26pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Buffalo is WAY cheaper to live. You can get a house on the border of Buffalo for $50k if you so choose.
	👻 3:27pm chresti: Same thing in LA-SF big time
	3:27pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Jonas Reinhardt reminds me of Forbidden Planet.
	👻 3:28pm chresti: Oakland is also getting expensive
	👻 3:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: Jersey City, NJ, is growing up, too. www.nytimes.com...
	3:29pm spodiodi: Ike, nice DW reference. Don't think I've seen that one, or at least haven't seen it in a long time
	3:29pm crateslinger: JC is crazy! That's where all the finance guys went after 9-11.
	3:29pm SSS: Perhaps USA is the modern day Forbidden Planet, yes?
	3:29pm spodiodi: Oakland, sure... even Vallejo is like 300%+ than it was a few years ago. Nutty. I'm planning my escape
	3:30pm Chris from DC: DC has gotten absurd too.
	3:30pm brainiac: The failure of income inequity
	3:30pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Even around Buffalo my neighbor the contractor says all new built houses cost $350k and up. Oy vey!
	👻 3:31pm Rev. Turnip Druid: It costs three million dollars to stand still for five minutes on any street-corner in DC. FOUR million during brunch hours.
	3:31pm zpulpa: It feels kind of odd and confusing to try and live in a city, being a recent art school grad with no real career prospects... I am thinking I may move back to the southwest sooner than later, so many coastal cities seem unlivable, without being a total asshead to folks living there over generations.
	3:31pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Well, hopefully manufacturing jobs will come back and the middle class will thrive as wealth creation comes back.
	3:31pm zpulpa: hahahaha
	3:32pm crateslinger: I've been looking at van modifications for a while now. I could live in a van. I don't know about my wife, two kids, two dogs, two cats, and three birds, but I could live in a van.
	3:32pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Zpulpa-if I may, Las Cruces NM is the high desert filled with nice people and its affordable and there are cool things to do there. I went to NMSU! There are also a few people that could afford to buy your art!
	👻 3:32pm chresti: in SF, Divisadero St, where my parents bought a tiny condo for 50k in 1989-90, is now overrun with Google buses. Popeye's is still there though
	3:33pm SSS: Down by the river?
	3:33pm over it: this is called the way things go I think.
	3:33pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: I was being sincere about the manufacturing jobs. I was going to start a machine shop.
	3:33pm Linda Lee: the fix was in for nyc when i left in '94, dears. cannot imagine why people insist on hanging on now ~ let alone how.
	👻 3:34pm chresti: brainiac- exactly
	3:34pm crateslinger: absolutely down by the river. good for the washin up.
	3:35pm zpulpa: @crateslinger I moved to baltimore in my small RV last summer and made it work for a whole year before getting a proper room, I saved enough to travel in europe working part time,,,, but froze my ass off. @Wild Neil\|\|Peace All yeah! southern NM is a cool place! I dream about it, I just wonder about finding some friends... friends are everywhere I like to remind myself.
	3:35pm Chris from DC: Also in DC if you stand still too long someone will build a new condo on top of you.
	👻 3:35pm Rev. Turnip Druid: What Linda L. said. I did my best NYC lingering/loitering in mid-1980s. Can't relate to anything I see there now.
	3:35pm Linda Lee: we'll need to forget about the nuclear family as the prime economic unit of measure going forward. just can't work now.
	👻 3:35pm Rev. Turnip Druid: also: holy crap that Lava
	3:36pm SSS: HOT LAVA!!!
	3:36pm Webhamster Henry: M Appeal!
	3:36pm northguineahills: @LL: I left in '17, rent was going up 25%/yr, the only jobs in my field were tech freelance or gov't subcontracting. It just wasn't tenable. After my cultural and spiritual sanctuary closed in '07, I knew it was only a matter of time before Brooklyn would essentially die and spit me out.
	3:37pm northguineahills: (cultural and spiritual sanctuary being Tonic).
	👻 3:37pm Rev. Turnip Druid: larva. not lava. Consider my previous immaculately edited.
	👻 3:37pm chresti: Haha Chris!
	3:37pm Lixiviated Life: i sometimes think of my friend's parents who were married at 18, 19, or 20 yrs old. the difference between them then and kids now is the ability to get a factory job fresh out of high school. towns like paterson nj were healthy working class mill towns. when the jobs left, they began to fall apart.
	3:37pm Linda Lee: when the place no longer serves us, we can stop serving the place.
	3:37pm Webhamster Henry: Sorry! Wrong spies!
	3:38pm SSS: Opps....not really paying attention
	3:38pm Linda Lee: tuning in for the first time in weeks right now. i've been 'away'.
	3:38pm Lixiviated Life: @Linda Lee Happy to see you. Hope all is well.
	3:38pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Lixivated Life- I know of a machine shop that is automated that successfully competes against China on price. That could happen here more if more people would simply do it.
	3:38pm northguineahills: Now I just have WFMU....
	3:38pm spodiodi: WB, Linda Lee -- was wondering
	3:39pm Linda Lee: testing the waters here, LL. thanks. we'll see how it goes. :-)
	👻 3:40pm chresti: That's great!
	3:40pm Linda Lee: thank you spodiodi. still not quite myself. not sure who else i'd be however! :-)
	3:41pm Rich in Washington: That tears it. After years and years of trying to find the perfect xmas gift for my mom (and always striking out), I'm buying her a Kraftwerk album this year.
	3:41pm spodiodi: WFMU needs to start a new country.
	3:42pm spodiodi: new state?
	3:42pm Rich in Washington: I think Man Machine, because Mom's from the generation of bands wearing coordinated outfits.
	👻 3:42pm Rev. Turnip Druid: I'd renounce my citizenship in a heartbeat if FMUland were to become a reality.
	3:42pm Polyus: I was listening to a podcast about Low recently, and I have to admit that there are a bunch of little production touches on there I never really noticed before. It was cool to then go back and listen to it with new ears.
	3:42pm northguineahills: My parents hate most of my music, but while visiting, my mother came in last xmas and I was playing Micah's show w/ some weird cult stuff, and my mom said, "this is really nice". I nearly fainted.
	3:43pm northguineahills: (Micah from WFMU)
	3:43pm Guy Walker: You mom like it because it sounded clean, Fabio. It is what they said about the Beatles when they heard the Stones, "at least their clean".
	3:43pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Larva reminds me of Can. Sorta.
	3:43pm tim from champaign: When I was in High School I was playing the Revolting Cocks "Beers Steers and Queers" 12". My dad walked in the room, listened for a minute and shook his head. I remember thinking "I know this sucks, honest, I do".
	👻 3:43pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Also, yes Capt.Fabio. This obsessive direction (german electronic etc) is highly encouraged. Do continue.
	3:43pm zpulpa: I mailed my grandma a Laraaji CD earlier this year and she just emailed me saying she loved it!
	3:44pm Lixiviated Life: My first Kraftwerk listen was Autobhan. A few of us were under the influence in somebodies apartment while thir parents were away.
	3:44pm spodiodi: always a safe journey on the SS Failure
	3:44pm Linda Lee: i adore 'music of mind control'. amazing content.
	3:44pm Guy Walker: Yeah, Can. That Saw album opens with a sound like this.
	3:44pm Cmurtha: I see I missed a really eclectic conversation about American decline, gentrification, and pop music. Should have come on earlier.
	3:45pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Are we going to hear some secret East German Olympic Training Music from 1980? I bought a house is a good public school district. Value of home is increasing-for now.
	3:45pm Linda Lee: we kids thought 'autobahn' was hilarious.
	👻 3:45pm jmr3: I love the cover of this Harmonia record - the giant looming heroic and ominous detergent bottle!
	3:45pm Ike: Yes, you have to automate. Other than that and maybe some holistic single-origin hipster BS goods, manufacturing is NEVER coming back. Forget about it! It's even starting to leave China and go to even cheaper places like Cambodia and Bangladesh. And it's severely fracked up China, too: www.amazon.com...
	3:46pm Enougj: Watussssssi
	👻 3:46pm Rev. Turnip Druid: re: american decline -- The reactionary patriot types used to adore the old slogan LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. .. But they failed to tell us that their capitalist nightmare stormtroopers would make it prohibitively expensive & complicated to leave.
	3:46pm Rich in Washington: My first Kraftwerk album was Autobahn on 8-Track Quad. A friend in high school's dad had it and a Quad deck in a box in their garage and they just gave it to me. Crazy sounding.
	3:47pm Linda Lee: i loved beers steers & queers though. had to.
	3:47pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Ike-ah, the race for the bottom, China labor costs. Yep. Saw that coming 20 years ago. We need men like Henry Ford again with his $5 a day so men could buy his cars.
	3:47pm spodiodi: drop?
	3:47pm zpulpa: maybe building sea walls will be the big save....
	3:47pm northguineahills: Hey if Sealand can do it, so can we. What's the Swedish artist self-proclaimed kingdom that issue's passports? (they're also musicians)>
	3:47pm The Oscar: My parents tried playing Kraftwerk for my cousin when he was maybe four, and it TERRIFIED him. For me, they waited until I was ten, and I loved it.
	👻 3:47pm Rev. Turnip Druid: AND MAKE THE DOLPHINS PAY FOR IT!
	3:48pm spodiodi: SF has one coming
	3:48pm Matt: The Pavlonian in me keeps waiting for the dj to cut in here..
	3:48pm spodiodi: lol RTD
	3:48pm SSS: I have a small (very) machine shop. Two CNC machines. I make most of my income doing design work on a constituting basis.
	3:48pm Webhamster Henry: @ngh Ellgaland-Vargaland!
	3:49pm Rich in Washington: It's the rise of the investor class that seemed to spur on the exploitation of everything with a scorched earth fervor. At least people like Ford, uber capitalist that he was, was smart enough to know when not to crap in the well.
	3:49pm spodiodi: hear, hear, Rich in Washington
	3:50pm Linda Lee: he also had a domestic well.
	👻 3:50pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ZUCKERZEIT!
	3:50pm crateslinger: One reason to stay in NYC... when they close the doors and people in the heartland start fighting over gasoline, we'll still get our rations.
	3:50pm Chris from DC: Cluster!
	3:51pm SSS: Ford essentially created the contractor employment situation we have today.
	3:51pm Linda Lee: unfortunately, since nothing is actually produced in nyc it won't be much fun there either.
	3:51pm spodiodi: Zuckersheise needs to go find his own Sealand, and GTFO of here
	3:51pm Fredericks: It's my understanding that there's only three days worth of food in New York City at any given time.
	3:52pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Rich in W-yep! @SSS-can you email me about your experience doing this please? @Crateslinger-"The name's Plisken!"
	3:52pm Cmurtha: Rev I have only ever lived in an America steeped in decline. I'm not old enough to have seen the start. I not too long ago listened to Jimmy Carter's "Crisis of Concise" speech and despite the oritentalist silliness, his forward thinking and dare I say genuine reflection and commenting on what he saw as a problem was so heart breaking to me. I think the hen's have just come to roost on cupidity and the good old colonial boomerang, but that's a talk for another time.
	3:53pm crateslinger: Nothing is produced here in the city, but it will always come here where the money and power and progressive votes are. Nobody in the heartland actually grows anything. It's all done by five guys with machines.
	3:53pm Linda Lee: & we saw how incredibly easy it is to lock down & isolate nyc on 9/11. almost immediate on order.
	3:54pm Chris from DC: I have a real urge to see Escape from New York again now.
	👻 3:55pm chresti: SF is like that-everything piped or shipped in
	3:55pm crateslinger: I am like a reverse prepper. The city will thrive like Hunger Games. Everybody else is shit out of luck.
	3:55pm spodiodi: pooped* in FTFY
	3:56pm crateslinger: Don't get me wrong if you've got 100 acres and your own private army - you'll probably be fine, but folks who rely on cheap gas and Walmart are in for a surprise.
	3:56pm Polyus: Rabid anti-Semite and member of the Third Reich Henry Ford? Sheesh I hope we have better examples of capitalists than that.
	3:56pm spodiodi: In SF, everything is pooped in.
	3:56pm Linda Lee: but aren't we're speaking about a hypothetical future when we'll be forced back to self-sufficiency? land, water, labor. there's just not enough of any of it in the city to support it. you think the big money will hang out for love of new york? hell, they're only there part time as is!
	3:56pm Polyus: “Honorary” member, sorry
	3:57pm brainiac: Shout out and big ups to diciassette in O-town. Just dug the swingin' video on yer AV page, and it made my day! https://youtu.be/IYnmSAtZuB0
	3:58pm crateslinger: Trucks and trains protected by drones. I'm sure the food will get boring, but I'm no gourmand. There's enough to support the cities if everybody else dies.
	3:58pm Linda Lee: that's as far as i go with Dystopialand for now.
	3:58pm Polyus: Also, crateslinger I think you underestimate us here in the heartland.
	3:58pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: @Polyus-I mean Ford the Industrialist, that role. Not sure why he took up writing and Politics. I have fishing gear, we will eat, but very slowly.
	3:59pm Linda Lee: kind of a big 'if' there, crateslinger :-D
	3:59pm brainiac: Ford was barely literate.
	3:59pm crateslinger: A LOT of people will die. I know that's dramatic, but I have no faith in humanity. Polyus - I hope you've got land, guns and friends.
	4:00pm Wild Neil\|\|Peace All: Ford was a mechanical genius also. He could fix pocket watches at age 12.
	4:01pm tim from champaign: Sounds like Cluster and Eno borrowed a Gristleizer. There's that woozy ominous electronics going on underneath.
	👻 4:01pm chresti: Land is fine if you have water
	4:01pm Linda Lee: i just love the fact that we can hang out & dribble on about hypotheticals. especially yours truly.
	👻 4:03pm Rev. Turnip Druid: top-shelf set there, mister.
	👻 4:03pm chresti: Oh yeah-Linda, love it!
	4:03pm crateslinger: Linda Lee, I have been told by immigrant friends that the whole apocalyptic crawling over the smoking garbage with a shotgun in your hand is a strictly American fantasy.
	4:04pm Linda Lee: of course it is.
	4:05pm fred: @ngh: funny you should ask about Elgaland-Vargaland on this very show's playlist. Look who's in charge of the Ministry of Airwaves: elgaland-vargaland.org...
	4:06pm SSS: But isn't that what is going on in Venezuela?
	4:07pm Rich in Washington: I fear it being more like the disintegration of the Balkan States, with richer, more industrious districts doing just OK but sort of isolated, and rural places becoming lawless, crumbling infrastructure, like something out of Children of Men meets Deliverance.
	4:07pm Rich in Washington: but they're still be Netflix and Hulu.
	👻 4:07pm chresti: nice no-nonsense, basic web design- Elgaland
	4:08pm Rich in Washington: People living in dumpsters but with newspapers selling it like it's some hip urban trend with youngsters.
	4:09pm crateslinger: I have a friend who went through the snipers and death in Sarajevo. He said that gold was worthless. You couldn't get a cigarette for a krugerrand. Ammo was the thing.
	4:10pm crateslinger: and food. Everybody wanted food but everybody would trade for ammo.
	4:10pm crateslinger: Not sure how many krugerrands he was walking around with.
	👻 4:10pm chresti: mention of politicians, I make the Lurch "ehrrrrrrh" sound
	4:11pm Linda Lee: just can't imagine those with the means to bail not doing so.
	4:13pm crateslinger: The difference between Venezuela and here is we fantasize about it while it is actually happening there.
	4:13pm Linda Lee: if new york has nothing special for them, off they go.
	4:14pm Webhamster Henry: You and go depress yourself by reading James Howard Kunstler's World Made By Hand novels.
	4:14pm Linda Lee: thanks, i've already had mine.
	4:16pm brainiac: @fred: Can't figur out why they would put a neurosurgeon from Florida in charge of the airwaves.... ;) https://www.google.com/search?q=Fabio+Roberti&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
	4:16pm Linda Lee: Kunstler is good though.
	4:18pm Chris from DC: His commentary on current events won't cheer you up either.
	4:19pm Polyus: Oh hey Fabio - do I dare ask if you have seen the new Suspiria yet or are you opposed on principle? I’m not sure if I would call it “good” but I was oddly entertained.
	👻 4:19pm chresti: spodiodi- a lot of kids land there with flowers in their hair, end up blasting their brains out with drugs- mostly around Haight st and the Tenderloin
	4:20pm Webhamster Henry: Kunstler is cranky - but scary . I think we'll be busy dealing with climate issues which will hit before the peak oil crisis. His rants are kind of predictable, but reasonable in a legal sense. And I like his architecture criticism.
	4:21pm crateslinger: I think I made up that part about trading ammo in Sarajevo, but the food, gold and cigarettes bit is true. And people were starving. I'm out of here. Apologies for my part in this conversation. I'm not a grim person. To the motorcycle! Good night.
	4:21pm Welsh Rarebit: Man, that Hosono track was awesome. It reminds me of the audio equivalent of Isamu Noguchi (I loved his sculptural and design work). Hosono was in YMO, right?
	4:23pm northguineahills: @fred: haHA: That was exactly what my brain was trying to conjure. I had no idea who the master of airwaves was before, thanks!
	4:25pm steveo: that piece reminded me of a bicycle i saw last night with three different blinky lights, all with different flash patterns at different tempos
	👻 4:27pm chresti: remember the speakers that would flash different colors?
	👻 4:28pm jmr3: @steveo - are you in Fort Lauderdale? You just described me on my commute home.
	4:28pm Fabio: @ Polyus: Yes, I saw it and I felt the same way. It's not a "good" movie, with a lot of plot issues and things that just don't work. But I liked Tilda Swinton (always great) and the cinematography and sets and choreography were all excellent, but it left me cold in the end. The big dance satanic ritual scene towards the end was fantastic visually, with the exception of the "monster" demon witch or whatever that fat hideous thing was supoposed to be, but it wasn't scary or even creepy -- which is what you should be getting from Suspiria! and the political asides from radio and TV that were supposed to make some sort of connections -- to what exactly?) were basically useless...
	4:29pm steveo: @j: nyc
	👻 4:30pm chresti: I can't watch heads exploding
	4:30pm steveo: this also rocks (or something better than rocks)
	4:31pm Chris from DC: Ok, this one's a clicky show.
	👻 4:31pm chresti: rocking dirge
	👻 4:31pm Rev. Turnip Druid: what they rock'd & click'd.
	4:32pm brainiac: I would like to listen to this on flashing speakers.
	4:32pm The Oscar: @Fabio That's pretty much my take on it-- I poured a couple thousand words into a review and I still can't tell you weather I liked it, but the stuff that was good was very good.
	4:32pm fred: @ngh: I read about that while waiting in line to get a passport, years ago. I didn't get it, the quota was reached way before my turn
	4:32pm Fredericks: Watching The Autons Activate while listen to Kohn. Intense.
	4:32pm Devin B.: similarly arockin' and aclickin'
	4:34pm steveo: turning it up a little more just in case
	👻 4:34pm chresti: this reminds me of a Death in Vegas cd I have somewhere
	4:34pm Welsh Rarebit: DAE remember the name of the film with Sam Neill and Isabelle Adjani (spelling) set in Berlin? The actors play a couple where the wife more or less leaves Neill's character for a demon or some other entity.
	👻 4:35pm Ken From Hyde Park: Watching the sun set with Fabio is nice this time of year.
	4:35pm The Oscar: Also, on the subject of movies, is anyone else as depressed as I am by the cancellation of FilmStruck? Any last-minute viewing recommendations before it disappears into the ether?
	👻 4:37pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ...and I had JUST discovered FilmStruck on th'Roku, only a few months ago. Had no idea it existed. Amassed a huge watch-queue in no time.
	4:37pm Joe McG: @Welsh: I think that's "Possession."
	4:37pm Chris from DC: Welsh Rarebit, Possession
	4:37pm steveo: if you're wondering what to get me for christmas a cello would be fine
	4:37pm greyscale: @Welsh Rarebit... The name of that movie is "Possession" directed by Andrzej Żuławski... great movie, especially Adjani scene in the subway....
	4:38pm wilbur twinhorse: oscar, check out robert downey sr.'s early 16mm films
	4:39pm The Oscar: @RTD If you haven't seen it, I recommend A Page of Madness-- mindblowing silent Japanese horror from the '20s, with a new score by the Alloy Orchestra.
	4:39pm fred: Speaking of devastating losses, the Free Music Archive will disappear soon. Like tomorrow
	4:39pm Welsh Rarebit: Ahh that's it; sorta thought that was the title but don't have a browser at hand to check it out. I remember the subway scene vividly.
	4:39pm The Oscar: @wilbur Ooh, good call. Love me some Putney Swope.
	4:40pm tim from champaign: Funny this is called Ice Cream Man because I hear the Cramps' Garbage Man in there.
	👻 4:40pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Valerie and her Week of Wonders is on th'Struck, I believe. Thanks to Pas Musique of comment-board fame for pushing that one on me a while back. & thanks Oscar: will look it up!
	4:40pm Fabio: @ Oscar: check out Kanopy. lots of good stuff there. on filmstruck check out a few of Seijun Suzuki's films, particular faves: Branded to Kill, Story of Prostitute and Tokyo Drifter.
	4:41pm steveo: @chresti i don't think i remember the flashing speakers; something akin to "visualization" in itunes?
	4:42pm wilbur twinhorse: this is pre putney, "two tons of turquoise to taos tonite, babo 73, and something else(a doc of singles bars in ny).
	4:42pm The Oscar: @Fabio Ooh, I've heard good things! Not sure if my library system supports it, but it definitely sounds worth looking into.
	👻 4:44pm chresti: they were around in the early seventies- pretty cheap, not sure if the flashing actually corresponded with the music
	4:45pm Webhamster Henry: in re: FMA: cheyenne_h on 11/08/2018 at 12:38PM Update: Closing Date Pushed to Nov 16 Due to traffic, the site's been up and down today. Please DO NOT try to scrape the site, friends! We will keep all the music available here until it is available at archive.org, where you can continue to explore the collection, download (even different audio formats!) and mark stuff as 'favorites'! Thanks for all the love and support you've given thus far. Donations help in the short term. We are in talks with a couple of orgs who might be able to help us out. Watch this space for details. If you have skills to offer, are part of an interested organization who wants to help FMA, or have other feedback, please use our form in the post below.
	4:46pm The Oscar: I'm literally thinking of taking a day off work next week to try to make a dent in my watchlist. I've meant to watch Daisies forever.
	4:49pm Dave in Vermont: I just saw that doc last night.
	4:50pm spodiodi: enjoyed both in the same order
	👻 4:51pm Rev. Turnip Druid: th'Kubin on these fair shores!
	👻 4:53pm chris: wings of desire = must see movie, imho.
	4:54pm Linda Lee: yes it is, chris. absolutely and often.
	4:54pm Chris from DC: Loop-related!
	4:54pm fred: Yeah, don't try to get everything from the FMA right now. But if you really want to, go there instead and get over a hundred thousand tracks without stressing the FMA's remaining bandwidth (download fma_full.zip): github.com...
	👻 4:54pm Rev. Turnip Druid: NO CHEESE DOODLES! NO CHIPS! Even in the cinema, can't deal with having food/drinks; impossible to dissolve into alternate realities if you're tied down to ugly bodily functions like eatin'.. ... one Rev's opinion.
	4:55pm Dave in Vermont: go to the cinema!
	4:55pm wilbur twinhorse: yeah, fabio, like alex in clockwork orange with his eyes wide open!
	4:55pm spodiodi: What about intermission, at least?
	4:55pm northguineahills: I watch movies that same at the theater as at home, enjoy some chronic beforehand, and enjoy some beer (I'm an expert at smuggling booze anywhere, I'm a real Jack Kennedy Jr.). MAIN! I still have my tee from robert's Hz tour!
	4:56pm northguineahills: @Rev: I usually eat sushi at the cinema (also good at smuggling in food).
	4:56pm Linda Lee: there was definitely an impact on theater audiences after home video-on-demand. we all learned to forget each other's presence.
	👻 4:57pm Rev. Turnip Druid: All bets are off during intermission. Esp.the bollywood cinemas with samosas in th'lobby...
	4:58pm Chris from DC: Love the AFI because you can get a proper beer before your film. Speaking of beer, nearing the hour...
	4:58pm northguineahills: uhhh, Jack Kennedy Sr....
	4:58pm brainiac: Vincent: I dunno, I didn't go into Burger King. But, you know what they put on French fries in Holland instead of ketchup? Jules: What? Vincent: Mayonnaise. Jules: God damn! Vincent: I seen them do it, man, they ****ing drown them in that shit.
	👻 4:59pm Rev. Turnip Druid: "....and Rose Kennedy the Dwarf..." -G.P-O.
	5:00pm northguineahills: damnit, Joe Kennedy ... (no braining today).
	👻 5:01pm chresti: I recommend having some form of thc before watching a movie
	5:02pm Chris from DC: @Brainiac And I don't mean just like in no paper cup, I'm talking about a glass of beer.
	5:06pm brainiac: The only time I act like a prepper is at the liquor store.
	5:10pm Chris from DC: Outstanding show. Archive later. Beersies be with you all.
	5:14pm Michael 98145: there are insects in the stream
	5:16pm wilbur twinhorse: if this is the first part of the second part, how many parts are there?
	👻 5:19pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Dunno about the first part of a second part, but at some point the thorax becomes the abdomen. Why fight it?
	5:20pm Carmichael: It's actually the 2nd part of the 1st part.
	5:21pm wilbur twinhorse: i like all its parts!
	👻 5:22pm Rev. Turnip Druid: So this is where the head becomes the thorax. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
	5:22pm Guy Walker: You sound like someone's grandpa (or Scrosese) talking about The Cinema which should be a non-event event. Besides, there are people with projectors and viewing rooms who are serious. Love you, man, but home viewing is where it is at.
	5:23pm brainiac: Who recorded me in the shower this morning?!?!!
	5:23pm ?: This playlist takes me right back to college, listening to WKCR's overnight show while putting together the school newspaper.
	👻 5:24pm chresti: haha Rev.
	👻 5:26pm chresti: can I come to your home cinema, Guy?
	5:31pm Guy Walker: If Fabio and Ruth say it is okay and they will come too then sure. We'll watch something that doesn't have popcorn or bathrooms in it. I watched Kanal last night.
	5:33pm TDK60: Fabio, just gettin' here.
	👻 5:33pm mrdonutsu: Loop never did chord changes!
	👻 5:34pm Rev. Turnip Druid: holy crap, this Tricoli fellow. Thanks to this very show (if memory serves), had to get that Clonic Earth LP of his, which is an infinite classic.
	5:37pm TDK60: Got to see the 'Low' part of the 'Bowie's Berlin Trilogy' show a few weeks back; by musicians from Shearwater and associated musicians. It was powerful.
	5:37pm Fabio: @ Guy: Hey there man! Don't get me wrong, I watch lots of movies at home too, but my preferred environment is in the theater. Home viewing is ok to a point, but I never get the same satisfactionas in a theater.
	5:39pm Michael 98145: have to agree with that, Fabio ...
	5:44pm northguineahills: I'll defer to the good Rev to describe this Tircoli/Ankersmit, holy smith stains!
	5:46pm spodiodi: this is great
	5:51pm Rufus J Squirrel: This movie scared the fuck out of me as a kid.
	👻 5:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: That they made a slapstick comedy of that film is one of the gravest crimes of the modern era.
	5:54pm wilbur twinhorse: Francis Lai died yesterday. Composed music for many films, mostly French.
	5:55pm TDK60: Hey Wilbur, how ya been?
	5:55pm David in London: Terrific show tonight Fabio.
	5:56pm Michael 98145: yes. thanks again, Fabio.
	5:56pm wilbur twinhorse: okey dokey so far...
	5:58pm TDK60: Floyd, man.
	5:58pm northguineahills: Happy thanks, Fabio!
	5:58pm Smokestack: Nice closing choice!
	👻 5:59pm Rev. Turnip Druid: exceptional show, boss.
	5:59pm coelacanth∅: chresti hi! regarding flashing speakers there were 3 different kinds (as far as i know) those that were random; those that had 3 colors, each corresponding respectively to high, low, and midrange frequencies; and those that had different colors that each responded to different volumes. (the lowest volume color responding to all levels, etc.) i made one once.
	5:59pm zpulpa: good bye yall! have a wonderful night! thanks for the fun conversations of end tmies ect.. :)
	5:59pm Matt: woa, almost started singing out loud....losing office mode
	5:59pm spodiodi: Thanks, Fabio!
	6:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Fabio!
	👻 6:00pm chresti: Thanks Fabio! Enjoyed your selection today! coel- cool!
	👻 6:01pm chris: gracie, Fabio!
	6:01pm northguineahills: @coel: My father had one I found in the attic in HS. I hooked it up to my mini-hi-fi.

Strength Through Failure with Fabio: Playlist from November 8, 2018

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