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October 11, 2018 Favoriting
Like a massive old IBM humming to itself
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Artist Selection Album    (Label / Recording date)
Theme Music:
Sarah Webster Fabio 
Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues   Favoriting Jujus: Alchemy of the Blues
(Folkways 1976)
ECD  In Tempo   Favoriting Major Force: The Original Art-Form
(Mo' Wax 1990)

Perez Prado  The Voodoo Suite   Favoriting Voodoo Suite
(RCA Victor 1955)

Talkover Music:
Boca 45 
Down to Mexico   Favoriting b/w Stand Up (Geoff Barrow MDGI Remix)
(Grand Central 2005)

Monruedi Phromchak  Lam Khon Sawan Ying Chai Kieow Hak   Favoriting Nong Daeng Khuen Thin

Talkover Music:
Gill Trythall 
Polk Salad Annie   Favoriting Nashville Gold: Switched on Moog
(Athena 1973)

Masayuki Takayanagi & Kaoru Abe  Song number 1   Favoriting Kaitai Teki Kohkan
(Sound Creator 1970)

Talkover Music:
Skeletons 
Over the Bridge   Favoriting Smile
( Impossible Ark 2010)

Werdi Sentana  Tabuh Gegenderan   Favoriting Jegog: The Bamboo Gamelan of Bali
(CMP 1991)

Talkover Music:
Cults Percussion Ensemble 
Two Jubilee Pieces   Favoriting Cults Percussion Ensemble
(Highland Recording Studio/Trunk 1979)

Gavin Bryars  Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet   Favoriting The Sinking of the Titanic
(Obscure 1975)

Talkover Music:
Guitar Red 
Sad Day   Favoriting Hard Times
(Mod-Art 1976)

Yoko Ono  Mind Train   Favoriting Fly
(Apple 1971)

Closing Theme:
John Lee Hooker 
Stand By   Favoriting I Feel Good
(Jewel 1971)

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm chresti:

heya halo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:03pm Doug Schulkind:

Cheers and hello! No Explorers Room tonight as our host Flash Strap has lost power due to Hurricane Michael. I will be hanging out with you tonight!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:05pm melinda:

hi all! Sucks about the hurricane.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 7:06pm doctorjazz:

Hi Doug! Hope Flash is OK.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Monk !
Avatar 7:07pm geezerette:

Best to Evan. :(

Greetings, Doug! :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:07pm chresti:

oh yeah!! heck! Hope flash is alright!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:08pm chresti:

thanks for filling in Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:09pm Doug Schulkind:

Hello dearie buds! So sorry Flash Strap can't be with you this evening. I will keep my head down and my ears wide open. Thanks for joining me!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:09pm chresti:

now I'm gonna track that fucker michael
Avatar 7:10pm geezerette:

Orisha table tennis!
Avatar 7:10pm northguineahills:

I got lucky this time around, just some down branches and rain.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:11pm chresti:

good news ngh!
Avatar 7:12pm geezerette:

ngh, was wondering about your tree situation. Glad you're safe!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:12pm Doug Schulkind:

Glad you're not under the weather (literally), NGH!
  7:14pm JtotheK:

Hi everyone! Tonight we all explore Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Car chase!...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:15pm Doug Schulkind:

I'll hand out the magnifying glasses. Please be gentle with me.
Avatar 7:16pm geezerette:

Oh man, this is great! :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:16pm chresti:

looks like w.va is getting pounded
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...w/ Cyd Charisse interpretive dance...well - you envisage your own movie...
Avatar 7:17pm northguineahills:

About 40 km west is where the the damage started, the panhandle got toasted/
Avatar 7:18pm geezerette:

Chresti, unreal!

Rev, ha! But now I'm seeing YOUR movie!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Of course - the Leader of the Free World assures that climate change is a political hoax...just like the allegations against Krappenough...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:19pm chresti:

I'm always glad to catch your room live Doug-your regular time is early in california
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:19pm Doug Schulkind:

I loved Cyd Charisse in Silk Stockings. That "Stereophonic Sound" scene is killer!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:20pm Doug Schulkind:

That's OK, chresti. I wouldn't expect you to rearrange your circadian rhythms for little ol' me.
Avatar 7:21pm geezerette:

"Stereophonic Sound" is such a time capsule, and funny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm Doug Schulkind:

They audio engineers do strange things to the sound to give it a wide-angle sound. It doesn't really work, but it's hilarious.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:23pm chresti:

well, if I didn't stay up so late with the radio on the night before....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:24pm Doug Schulkind:

@chresti
That is between you and God.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:24pm chresti:

my circagian rhythems are plenty scambled!
Avatar 7:25pm geezerette:

This "Voodoo Suite" is fabulous!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:26pm Doug Schulkind:

@geezerette
I've made sure every selection is taller than this:


FABULOUS-----------------------------------------
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:28pm chresti:

must switch to headphones now...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:31pm chresti:

My circladian ryththms are mostly thrown out of whack from getting up before dawn to go to work
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Ambitious here...Rawk claiming the 1st Concept Albums - the connection of Exotica & Lounge to Psychedelia...The LP itself as a Format - Medium is the Message...still taking it in!
Avatar 7:32pm geezerette:

Yay,Doug ! I may sacrifice a chicken in your honor!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:33pm chresti:

Love long songs-
Avatar 7:34pm geezerette:

...& Howdy, Chresti and RevRab!!! :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:35pm chresti:

Howdees!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:36pm chresti:

beeeutiful!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:36pm Doug Schulkind:

Monruedi Phromchak: monrakplengthai.blogspot.com...
Avatar 7:37pm northguineahills:

Ok, leaving work, hear ya in the morning, Doug!

Jah Wobble did an album called "Molam Dub" w/ Thai musicians....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm Doug Schulkind:

Have a lovely evening, northguineahills. Catch you on the down low!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:38pm chresti:

That image reminds me that I want my ping pong table back
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Nice to see Thelonius enjoying himself so actively.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:40pm chresti:

Do you have any Meesak Nakarat, (I'm guessing the spelling)?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:43pm Doug Schulkind:

@chresti
Nothing when I search by that spelling.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:44pm Doug Schulkind:

Looks like you got the first name right. Last name is (in English) Nakaratch. But, sadly, I still have none.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:46pm chresti:

monrakplengthai.blogspot.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:46pm chresti:

This one
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:47pm Doug Schulkind:

YES! I got that one!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:48pm chresti:

YEEEE!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

This of course is great stuff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:52pm chresti:

yes, very nice recording
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:53pm chresti:

essss
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:53pm Doug Schulkind:

Listening to long drawn-out presentations like this is so much more authentic to the actual performance context than silly little three-minute songs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:55pm Little Danny:

Well well well. Hi Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm Little Danny:

This is incredible
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm chresti:

Leel Danny!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Hung for an entire all-night Gamelon once...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

(...talk about Medium is Massage...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:57pm Little Danny:

Hey chresti!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:59pm chresti:

that must've been awesome Rev
Avatar 8:00pm geezerette:

Absolutely wonderful. :c)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm coelacanth∅:

greetings Doug and Explorers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:01pm Doug Schulkind:

@Revolution Rabbit Nov63
Well stay tuned for an extended gamelan piece coming up. It is the rare jegog performance of gamelan which employs the use of huge shafts of resonating bamboo. Jegog is played only in a few islands in Indonesia because that is the only place on earth where the bamboo grows that large. Stay tuned!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:02pm Doug Schulkind:

Howdy, coelacanth∅!
Avatar 8:03pm hyde:

what th-
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:04pm Doug Schulkind:

Good evening, hyde. Flash Strap's power is out with Hurricane Michael. I'm purveying a very last-minute fill-in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:04pm chresti:

hyde and coel and geeze!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:05pm coelacanth∅:

chresti! hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:05pm coelacanth∅:

geez! Little D!
Avatar 8:06pm hyde:

i fired up the stream before i looked, and my first thought was "this doesn't sound like library music"

hi chresti and coel and melinda and geez and ld. and the rest!
Avatar 8:07pm geezerette:

Coel! Hyde! L. Danny!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:07pm chresti:

it's called a tropical storm now
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:08pm chresti:

hi rest!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:11pm Doug Schulkind:

Hey there, Little Danny! I missed your grand entrance!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:12pm coelacanth∅:

i'll revisit for the entirety of that long track.
music of the morning of the world was my introduction to gamelan and it was c1980 via wfmu. i got the record and loved it but always wished certain tracks were maybe 4X longer
then my aunt gave me bunches of tapes she brought back from indonesia and What a relief to hear!
...though even those songs were faded out before their times because of tape length.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:14pm Doug Schulkind:

25-minute jegog gamelan performance is up NEXT!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:15pm coelacanth∅:

woohoo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:17pm chresti:

If it's short, I'll play it over and over again
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:20pm chresti:

actually, I play long recordings repeatedly, too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:22pm coelacanth∅:

gamelan is sometimes almost trance-inducing (semi-trance-inducing?) so i really wanted those songs to go on & on
...but then that applies to a lot of music. (certain Jimi Hendrix tracks come to mind first)
Avatar 8:22pm hyde:

i heart this record
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:22pm Doug Schulkind:

Still hoping, awaiting, beseeching a few pledges during the course of the evening. Help that little number 10 grow fat with pride!!

Pledge here: pledge.wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:25pm chresti:

done
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:25pm coelacanth∅:

this piece is disturbing to the dogs here. they were sleeping but since this track started the've been looking up at me occasionally like something's up!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:27pm Doug Schulkind:

My doggie is out getting walked. Probably for the good. She totally freaks at loud noises and thunder. Poor girl.
Avatar 8:31pm hyde:

@coel haha that made me remember just how much my old cat hated the Roscoe Mitchell that opens Jeff Gloick's show
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:32pm chresti:

that's kind of like a cat fight, for a minute
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:33pm coelacanth∅:

these dogs, though they're "mine" in many ways, are not legally mine and have never been to my home. they've only heard my music via laptop speakers. but i determined many years ago that dogs are usually sensitive to music, and not-too-crazy classical music is the most calming for them. they also seem to dislike punk rock.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:33pm Doug Schulkind:

@hyde
See the problem is your cat should be listening to Jeff Golick. That Gloick kid's show sucks.
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 8:34pm doctorjazz:

Intense stuff!
Thanks for the office company, heading out, take you to the car. Catch you all tomorrow!
Avatar 8:34pm hyde:

@Doug snicker
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:35pm Doug Schulkind:

On the morrow. Bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, doctorjazz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:35pm chresti:

safe travels!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:35pm coelacanth∅:

...of course, they might just be picking up on my energy, in turn affected by ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:36pm coelacanth∅:

haha! i didn't know the 3rd one was under the table. he just left the room!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:37pm Doug Schulkind:

OK everyone. Put on your jegog seatbelts...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:39pm chresti:

grooves
Avatar 8:39pm geezerette:

exactly!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:40pm chresti:

I blink more
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:40pm coelacanth∅:

heh, another one -the girl -just started to leave too. i told her to wait a minute; she might like this.
Avatar 8:46pm geezerette:

funny how digital it sounds.
Avatar 8:47pm geezerette:

like a massive old IBM humming to itself.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:47pm Doug Schulkind:

I would pay to hear THAT, geezerette!
Avatar 8:47pm geezerette:

...in a way...and also, not...
Avatar 8:48pm geezerette:

Heh!, Doug :D
Avatar 8:49pm still b/p:

Like playing bicycle spokes with a stick as the wheel turns. With the bike sitting still, upside down. Much harder on the moooooove!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:50pm chresti:

I have to unbuckle my seat belt now
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:50pm Doug Schulkind:

I have named this evening's show in your honor, geezerette.
Avatar 8:51pm geezerette:

still b/p, yes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:51pm chresti:

with bamboo spokes! sb/p
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:51pm Doug Schulkind:

Like a massive bicycle with a stick in the spokes humming to itself.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:52pm chresti:

or a bamboo fence...
Avatar 8:52pm geezerette:

Doug! I forgot my acceptance speech!
Avatar 8:53pm hyde:

@geez haha it's kind of true www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:53pm coelacanth∅:

like a massive ibm computer humming to itself while playing bamboo bicycle spokes
Avatar 8:54pm geezerette:

Ha ha, Just looked up! So proud!
Thank you, Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:54pm chresti:

ha!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:55pm Doug Schulkind:

Wing it, geezerette. We're all behind you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:59pm Doug Schulkind:

Oh my gorsh, I just figured out what to play to close out the show. I AM SO HAPPY WITH THIS CHOICE.
Avatar 9:00pm still b/p:

We'll send a petition to all high-profile televised awards shows, pleading for gamelan music to always be used when speechy winners have to be played off.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01pm Little Danny:

these rhythms keep syncing up with the show I'm scrabbling together
Avatar 9:01pm geezerette:

(clearing throat)...I'd like to thank the forest...
Avatar 9:02pm hyde:

true confession: i let the gamelan play while i was also listening to the old ibm computer humming to itself video that i found on Youtube and it was amazing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03pm Doug Schulkind:

The gamelan and the IBM fell in love, hyde. You're a mensch!
Avatar 9:03pm hyde:

in concusion, geez is a real genius (except maybe when it comes to acceptance speeches)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04pm Doug Schulkind:

Little Danny throws everything in, including the kitchen sync.
Avatar 9:05pm still b/p:

On the red carpet: "Who dyed your sarong?"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05pm Doug Schulkind:

On the Greek island of Ikaria, where me and the fambly vacationized back in July, there was some exceedingly tall bamboo, but it was exceedingly thin. Nothing like the massive trunks that make up the instruments in this ensemble.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06pm Ken From Hyde Park:

For next year's garden, I need to look for a gamelan melon. Just because that's so fun to say.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06pm Doug Schulkind:

12 hours from now, my radio show will be 6 minutes old.
Avatar 9:06pm hyde:

@Doug you could have made some sweet piccolos though, dude
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07pm Doug Schulkind:

Ken From Hyde Park! I love your avatar thingy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07pm Doug Schulkind:

@hyde
I prefer the half-sour piccolos. Not the gherkins.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08pm coelacanth∅:

i thought "loofah" was fun to say; but my loofah gourds all rotted before they were big enough to dry for use.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08pm melinda:

Digging the bamboo gamelan. Visiting with my mom, it is a nice background.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:09pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Doug. I'll bring back Hamburger Mario again someday.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12pm chresti:

love cults
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12pm Little Danny:

Oh you Doug
  9:12pm Dean:

Damn, Friday morning already?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:13pm Doug Schulkind:

Lovely to share me with Mom, melinda! Please pour me another tea.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16pm Little Danny:

this is incredible
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:17pm Doug Schulkind:

Music to my ears, Little Danny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:18pm Doug Schulkind:

It is in Australia (probably), Dean.
Avatar 9:19pm quinn:

oh this is something
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22pm Doug Schulkind:

Oh hey, quinn! Welcome. Sorry that Flash Strap and Explorers Room got Hurricane Michaeled. (He lost power.)
Avatar 9:23pm geezerette:

This is beautiful in the weirdest way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24pm Doug Schulkind:

It's 11:24am in Sydney and Melbourne. But not in Adelaide, where it is 11:54am. Yes, a half-hour difference!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24pm melinda:

@geeze I agree.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The "W" in WFMU stands for Weird, they say.
Avatar 9:25pm geezerette:

Hey, Melinda!
  9:27pm Dean:

Well, wherever I am I can speak the language, so it must not be Australia.
Avatar 9:27pm geezerette:

Ken FHP, more than likely. (who ARE they?)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27pm Doug Schulkind:

Fun Fact: Derek Bailey plays guitar on this piece.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27pm Little Danny:

Whoa
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27pm coelacanth∅:

W.....F.........M.....U...........
WeirdFuckingMusicUnlimited
Avatar 9:29pm geezerette:

(who are THEY?)

I'm going to hear this in my head for days, but still I listen. :)
  9:30pm Dean:

Oh, yeah...Joseph Holbrooke.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32pm Doug Schulkind:

This piece is 25:57. Later, Bryars created a 60-minute version.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33pm chresti:

ha ha coel!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34pm chresti:

this it-same song over and over!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:35pm Doug Schulkind:

Wikipedia entry on this song: en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar 9:35pm geezerette:

Dean, the music sounded like it came from that world.
I got those kind of images from it.
Avatar 9:35pm still b/p:

Jesus did some blood dopin', man, to get to this kind of stamina.
  9:36pm Gary via app:

Howdy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36pm Little Danny:

VERY moving music. That voice!
Avatar 9:36pm geezerette:

Doug, thanks for posting that!
Avatar 9:37pm hyde:

my internet connection is garbage right now (as is so often the case lately, sigh) and i can't even get the stream to stay up. so i must bail. farewell, my friends.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37pm Doug Schulkind:

Our next selection is also very moving. Two words. Mind. Train.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38pm chresti:

fairtheewell hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40pm Little Danny:

Huh. So this is what this is like.
Avatar 9:40pm geezerette:

Good night,Hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42pm Little Danny:

Do I remember this being some DJ's opening theme?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42pm Doug Schulkind:

Keep it tuned right here for Little Danny's broadcast of The Cool Blue Flame.

PLAYLIST PAGE: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43pm coelacanth∅:

yes you do!

'night hyde
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:44pm coelacanth∅:

black ops?
Avatar 9:44pm still b/p:

I had African music for a minute before getting to Yoko in progress....was that the automated stream a'sneaking?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45pm Little Danny:

That sounds right! Thanks coel!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45pm Little Danny:

@still: yep here too
Avatar 9:45pm geezerette:

and here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46pm chresti:

is the steam running into interference?
I love "Don't worry..."
Avatar 🥁 Swag For Life Member 9:47pm doctorjazz:

I'm back (actually just listened on the drive (what weird driving music... Sort of like Flash).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47pm Doug Schulkind:

@chresti
I think there was a little hiccup across the entire WFMU platform. But things seem back to okay now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47pm Doug Schulkind:

Glad I didn't steer you into a ditch, doctorjazz!
Avatar 9:48pm still b/p:

Would Yoko the conceptual artist love that Yoko the musical artist had a random moment of preemption, or be miffed?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49pm Doug Schulkind:

Yoko would insist on it.
Avatar 9:49pm geezerette:

Train really rocks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50pm coelacanth∅:

...as long as it's after she finds her hand
in the snow
(chresti!)
Avatar 9:53pm geezerette:

Thanks, Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53pm Doug Schulkind:

Little Danny will be humming to himself. Everyone is invited, nay commanded, to eavesdrop! Listen here: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54pm Doug Schulkind:

My sublime pleasure, geezerette!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56pm Doug Schulkind:

Never stop! Never stop!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56pm chresti:

thanks Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56pm Doug Schulkind:

Delighted, chresti. Thanks for hanging with me!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58pm Little Danny:

Thank you Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:59pm Doug Schulkind:

Blow their minds, LD!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Doug!
sweet dreams
Avatar 10:00pm still b/p:

My gratitude extends from here to Australia.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02pm Doug Schulkind:

Watch out for the sharks and the man-o-wars, still b/p!
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