WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 16, 2017

Listener comments!
	6:03pm melinda: Hello techsters
	6:03pm geezerette: Hello, Mark and all!
	6:04pm Switchblade Batman: film cameras, various video game consoles
	6:05pm Switchblade Batman: A radio, being that there's digital streaming now
	6:05pm Threemoons: I can't call as I am in the office, but...my "old" technologies that I still use...let me think...I have a bunch of mix tapes from the 80's that I will never give up -- ditto for my tape player. Also, on a more primal front, I love my cast-iron pan and cooking over good ol' fashioned gas flame....
	6:05pm steve: i figured you were talking about that dumb ass Bodega thing... wow that's already several news cycles ago
	🤖 6:06pm Bas NL: Hey, i got that book! Physics of Metals!
	6:06pm geezerette: Boy, was THAT dumb! Zuckerberg.
	6:07pm glenn: gas flame is great, but those induction cooktops are pretty good as well.
	6:07pm chris: all versions of zuck are cartoon versions
	6:07pm listener james from westwood: Oh, jeez, that Zuck stunt was the facepalm di tutti facepalm.
	6:07pm Threemoons: I also do wet-film photography with expired films as a hobby, and use a modern flatbed scanner to scan the results...
	6:07pm geezerette: No, that was the real Zuckerberg,
	6:07pm RomanDogBird: i dunno i think it looks prtty kewl ac2lly
	6:08pm glenn: not to mention the awesomeness that is the charcoal barbecue.
	6:08pm RomanDogBird: ain't techmology grand
	6:08pm Threemoons: Glenn--Gas flame though is the only way to really crank it up, especially if you want to sear a steak or something....ditto for charcoal BBQ, which alas I only have limited access to...
	6:09pm chris: i have a wind vane on the roof
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: If VR granted any sort of empathy boost, women would be enduring a lot less harassment when using VR in shared environments than they have.
	6:10pm Michael 98145: i have a Selectric squirreled away
	6:10pm RomanDogBird: that was rather kevin meaney-esque, mark
	6:11pm listener james from westwood: Zuck should get back to going to state fairs and staring meaningfully at things as he did for his totally-not-a-presidential-cred-building-tour from earlier this year.
	6:11pm Threemoons: Would you consider home food fermentation (ie saurkraut/kimchee making the old fashioned way, etc) as a use of old tech?
	6:12pm listener james from westwood: @Michael: Smith-Corona portable manual tucked discreetly in my living room!
	6:12pm Dean: The pencil. The sonnet. Print reviews of classical music recordings. That is, if by old tech you mean "things you don't have to plug in."
	6:12pm dale: give someone a transistor radio and tuneable loop and they can get all the info they ever would need.
	6:13pm northguineahills: I saw that video, it's amazing!
	6:13pm melinda: @threemoons I like to ferment. I also still play cassette tapes.
	6:14pm geezerette: VR is another way to corral you into the fb world and keep you there. So many Trojan Horses; and it's all so seductive. I'm as hooked as anyone, I mean I'm here, y' know?
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone! Here's the video we're listening to, of the Samoan firefighters. www.youtube.com...
	6:15pm Michael 98145: virtual wave, gz'ette
	6:15pm Threemoons: @Melinda you go girl! :D
	6:15pm geezerette: I'm a painter. Not much is lower tech than that.
	6:16pm Jeff: I got it from Kathryn!
	6:16pm geezerette: Virtual wave back, Michael. :)
	6:17pm kimzilla: Umm, Is his avatar waist deep in water?
	6:17pm Dean: That bottom photo of shelved library books demonstrates an old, still widely used technology: Library of Congress Classification. The titles are classed in T, Technology, including subclass TA (Engineering (General). Civil engineering) and subclass TF (Railroad engineering and operation).
	6:18pm Jeff: Also apropos of all that VR nonsense - I just want to remind everyone that nobody should ever buy anything made by Oculus Rift or its douchebag founder. www.theguardian.com...
	6:18pm geezerette: No books are outdated if they spur your imagination.
	6:18pm glenn: i love old hand tools. there's nothing more satisfying than making paper thin shavings with a beautiful old plane.
	6:19pm dale: i have some books from the teens on how to build your own aeroplane, hypnotism, and how to become a morse code operator.
	🤖 6:19pm Bas NL: You said it geezerette..
	6:21pm glenn: does anybody still use morse code anymore?
	6:21pm scuzfink1: In case you were wondering what song the Samoan firefighters were singing... https://youtu.be/KM2kbogwgBM
	6:22pm geezerette: Vance Packard's " The Hidden Persuaders " is still relevant. Thanks, Bas. :).
	6:22pm glenn: besides the cosmodemonic telegraph company, that is.
	🤖 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: So if North Korea detonated an EMP like they threatened, we might not be screwed, after all?
	6:24pm Fox: Glenn: I know SOS in morse code purely from the old scrubby sponge commercials.
	6:24pm geezerette: Glenn, yes han tools! Melinda, yes, fermentation! Everyone here;yes,yes,yes!
	6:25pm geezerette: ...hand tools...
	6:25pm dale: this all sounds amazing and enlightening - to a millenial. to anyone over 50 it's just how we grew up and many of us never left that world.
	6:25pm Dean: At this point, geezerette, I think you're obligated to cite the closing passage of Joyce's "Ulysses."
	6:25pm listener james from westwood: I've looked through that million random digits book! Mostly in puzzlement. Spotted it at my college library.
	6:25pm glenn: i'm assuming n.y.c. has tool libraries.
	6:26pm listener james from westwood: The audiobook version of that digit text is basically a numbers station.
	6:27pm Dean: Was just skimming a book on campus here compiling results of formulae given specified values, table after table.
	6:27pm geezerette: Dean, I'd have to re-read it.
	6:28pm Jeff: @dale: My dad continued to call flying machines aeroplanes. I think he did adopt the newfangled "airport" in lieu of aerodrome.
	6:29pm geezerette: Got it here, so will read last page this evening. Thanks!
	6:30pm Dean: It's an...affirmative...closing.
	6:31pm Michael 98145: once, in my dim past, i recall a station going off the air, but before they totally shut down all that was broadcast was a voice counting up numbers
	6:32pm Michael 98145: it was a very sorrowful sound
	6:32pm Dean: The LC classification, like Dewey Decimal Classification, was designed to facilitate "looking around."
	6:34pm geezerette: Nothing can replace the pleasure and value of browsing, wandering; in a book store, library, museum, national park, or a city,(on and on).
	6:36pm glenn: browsing goes against the protestant work ethic, though.
	6:37pm listener james from westwood: Hear, hear, geezerette!
	6:38pm Jeff: I've really enjoyed reading some of the original-version early 20th century Tom Swift ("Tom Swift and his Motorcycle", "Tom Swift and his War Tank" et al) and Hardy Boys books. The casual racism in them is initially shocking but eye-opening, and in general they give a really interesting feel for the time in which and for which they were written.
	6:38pm geezerette: Following your own imagination is almost the definition of being human.
	6:39pm geezerette: Hey, Listener James! :)
	6:40pm geezerette: Jeff, exactly!
	6:40pm dale: i have a couple three tom swifts. tom and his electric rifle and i think tom and his airship. that boy must have been well off.
	6:41pm geezerette: ha!
	6:41pm herb.nyc: As photography is mentioned, prince st betw Broadway / Crosby, in soho, is where Polaroid people hang and display their pix. They'll even shoot you (not ouch).
	6:43pm Jeff: Li'l bit of packet sniffing and Bob's your uncle!
	6:43pm glenn: the first franklin w. dixon was leslie mcfarlane. his son brian came up with peter puck, to explain hockey to americans.
	6:43pm geezerette: @Glenn@6:36: Puritan curse. Resist! :D
	6:44pm chris: btw, this just in. all wifi can be hacked - www.theguardian.com...
	6:45pm Threemoons: @Herb yeah I know the gallery I think...
	6:46pm Jeff: @chris: Yep, here's the paper on it www.krackattacks.com
	6:46pm glenn: oh he was also carolyn keene, for the nancy drew lovers. www.cbc.ca...
	6:47pm Fox: My local library in Jersey City loans out neckties, so people can go on job interviews.
	6:48pm geezerette: Fox, that's wonderful!
	6:49pm Jeff: Google News is maintaining a good live cluster of recent posts about the WPA2 vulnerability. news.google.com...
	🤖 6:49pm Bas NL: I've repaired/restored some 700 vintage synthesizers.. while outdated they are still in high demand!
	6:49pm listener james from westwood: @Fox, that is one of the kindest services I've ever heard a library offering.
	6:49pm Cheri Pi: Cassettes, 8 tracks, microfilm; 33, 48 & 78 players. VHS. Polaroid film.
	6:49pm Michael 98145: only the dogmatic lack imagination
	6:50pm listener james from westwood: Quoting stream-mate Gary Sullivan's opener: Bodegas are our friend.
	6:50pm herb.nyc: Old school photography gave us jokes like "let's go to the darkroom and see what develops", as you wink to the cutie. Kids nowadays ask "what's a darkroom?".
	6:51pm Fox: Outdated tech that most think is no longer needed: RADIO
	6:51pm Eric Hat: Exactly right. Head ye from whence you came.
	6:51pm dale: carburetors. clothes lines. hammers.
	6:51pm Cheri Pi: *45, hahaha
	6:51pm mocherz: working in animation, we usually lean on our digital cintiqs, but man, I miss drawing on paper, sharpening my pencil, and even paper cuts.
	6:51pm listener james from westwood: Kids today are likely to rejoin with the Lydia Deetz line from Beetlejuice: "My life is a dark room. One big dark room." And gods bless'em for replying so.
	6:52pm sweeks: I still love the sound and feel of an old typewriter
	6:52pm geezerette: Fox, haha! Yes!!!
	6:52pm Michael 98145: i like that: a WFMU-targeted radio. it's doable.
	6:52pm sweeks: Old pinball machines too!
	6:52pm Cheri Pi: We still have to transfer floppy disks at our library
	6:53pm herb.nyc: One of my favorite Onion headlines; "internet crashes under weight of cat photos". Oops, I lied, they said baby photos.
	6:53pm mocherz: pinball machines!
	6:53pm dale: radio that only get's one fm station: www.cnet.com...
	6:53pm northguineahills: Amen Threemoons, I picked my house b/c it had a gas stove, and gas stoves are rare in this area of FL. Dig the show, Mark. Trying to get out of work by 7. Of course all obsolete music forms are integral to my existence. Although, I got rid of my 8-tracks when I moved to NYC 17 years ago as my 8-track player was a cabinet, and I had no room. I just moved to FL from Brooklyn, otherwise I'd love to go to Monty Hall. I have an old polaroid (but finding film is a drag), and I have tons of old musical instruments. Is it weird that I have my books organized by their Library of Congress number?
	6:54pm Jeff: @herb.nyc - Changes in standard fluid measures for liquor bottles killed the good ol' joke: Where there are four Episcopalians there's a fifth!
	6:54pm sweeks: side note--as a swag-for-life member, where's my little radio doo-hicky icon?
	6:54pm melinda: @ngh yes
	6:54pm Dean: Chemex coffee maker, c.1990.
	6:55pm glenn: not weird so much as inefficient.
	6:55pm Michael 98145: yes!! bring a danged map!!
	6:55pm dale: northguineahills: you don't need a natural gas line. we use a propane barbecue tank and it lasts a loooong time. just have to run the black pipe line outside.
	6:55pm Dean: The once beloved Thomas Maps guides...
	6:55pm steve: i loooove good pens and writing in notebooks... i usually have 2-4 notebooks of personal and projects and work stuff going at once. im incapable of brainstorming with a computer.
	6:55pm northguineahills: As a geographer, I never use a GPS, I memorize a map beforehand like a normal human being!
	6:56pm Xyrus Blaze: Lead type.
	6:56pm dale: ....and adjust the burners - don't forget that.
	6:56pm melinda: @steve me too. I enjoy writing.
	6:56pm melinda: yes to maps.
	6:57pm Fox: Comic books! Most people buy trades from bookstores these days, and don't buy floppies at all, and Marvel Comics, given their success with the films and shows, is considering no longer making print individual issue comics at all anymore and making it digital only.
	6:57pm Jeff: I still wear a wristwatch which is permanently stuck with the same user interface... and never washes out in bright sunlight or needs a battery!
	6:57pm glenn: i scrapped my high tech coffee maker for a french press and an italian stovetop espresso maker [for weekend caffe macchiatto].
	6:57pm dale: i keep an old western electric dial phone. cordless phones don't work during power outages. shooby taylor!
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Maps, maps, maps, maps, maps.
	6:57pm dale: maps for the win.
	6:58pm Dean: ISWYDT, @Bas NL.
	6:58pm dale: ....and slide rules.
	6:58pm Fox: Filofax.
	6:58pm Michael 98145: kids wouldn't even know how to dial a phone
	6:58pm northguineahills: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm dale: rolodexes.
	6:58pm Michael 98145: let alone kittens
	6:59pm dale: matches.
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 7:00pm Webhamster Henry: well I missed this completely! that 's what I get for working!
	🤖 8:28pm Webhamster Henry: When books went on sale at my college, I decided that if the price was really low, then they stopped being books and started being art material. But one of my favorite things I got there was a three volume set of American Sewerage Practice, 1915. It's loaded with great graphics, fold-out nomograms, and pictures of laborers inside of huge culverts!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 16, 2017

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Reanimation Library founder Andrew Beccone speaks with Mark. The theme for this episode is "reanimating old tech." What old tech do you still use?
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack	0:08:16 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	Intro "Intro" by "Mark Hurst"		0:03:05 (Pop-up)
Samoan Hot Shot Crew 61	Mountain Song		0:15:02 (Pop-up)
Kraftwerk	Tanzmusik "Tanzmusik" by "Kraftwerk"	Ralf und Florian	0:16:47 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	The Techtonic Interview with Andrew Beccone, founder, The Reanimation Library		0:18:01 (Pop-up)
Kosmischer Laufer	Morgenrote "Morgenrote" by "Kosmischer Laufer"	The Secret Cosmic Music of the East German Olympic Program 1972-83, Vol. 2	0:34:10 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	Uncanny Valley "Uncanny Valley" by "Mark Hurst"		0:40:58 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst	Mark takes calls "Mark takes calls" by "Mark Hurst"		0:44:11 (Pop-up)
Shooby Taylor	The Theme "The Theme" by "Shooby Taylor"	Shooby Taylor, the Human Horn	0:57:28 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:03pm melinda: Hello techsters
	6:03pm geezerette: Hello, Mark and all!
	6:04pm Switchblade Batman: film cameras, various video game consoles
	6:05pm Switchblade Batman: A radio, being that there's digital streaming now
	6:05pm Threemoons: I can't call as I am in the office, but...my "old" technologies that I still use...let me think...I have a bunch of mix tapes from the 80's that I will never give up -- ditto for my tape player. Also, on a more primal front, I love my cast-iron pan and cooking over good ol' fashioned gas flame....
	6:05pm steve: i figured you were talking about that dumb ass Bodega thing... wow that's already several news cycles ago
	🤖 6:06pm Bas NL: Hey, i got that book! Physics of Metals!
	6:06pm geezerette: Boy, was THAT dumb! Zuckerberg.
	6:07pm glenn: gas flame is great, but those induction cooktops are pretty good as well.
	6:07pm chris: all versions of zuck are cartoon versions
	6:07pm listener james from westwood: Oh, jeez, that Zuck stunt was the facepalm di tutti facepalm.
	6:07pm Threemoons: I also do wet-film photography with expired films as a hobby, and use a modern flatbed scanner to scan the results...
	6:07pm geezerette: No, that was the real Zuckerberg,
	6:07pm RomanDogBird: i dunno i think it looks prtty kewl ac2lly
	6:08pm glenn: not to mention the awesomeness that is the charcoal barbecue.
	6:08pm RomanDogBird: ain't techmology grand
	6:08pm Threemoons: Glenn--Gas flame though is the only way to really crank it up, especially if you want to sear a steak or something....ditto for charcoal BBQ, which alas I only have limited access to...
	6:09pm chris: i have a wind vane on the roof
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: If VR granted any sort of empathy boost, women would be enduring a lot less harassment when using VR in shared environments than they have.
	6:10pm Michael 98145: i have a Selectric squirreled away
	6:10pm RomanDogBird: that was rather kevin meaney-esque, mark
	6:11pm listener james from westwood: Zuck should get back to going to state fairs and staring meaningfully at things as he did for his totally-not-a-presidential-cred-building-tour from earlier this year.
	6:11pm Threemoons: Would you consider home food fermentation (ie saurkraut/kimchee making the old fashioned way, etc) as a use of old tech?
	6:12pm listener james from westwood: @Michael: Smith-Corona portable manual tucked discreetly in my living room!
	6:12pm Dean: The pencil. The sonnet. Print reviews of classical music recordings. That is, if by old tech you mean "things you don't have to plug in."
	6:12pm dale: give someone a transistor radio and tuneable loop and they can get all the info they ever would need.
	6:13pm northguineahills: I saw that video, it's amazing!
	6:13pm melinda: @threemoons I like to ferment. I also still play cassette tapes.
	6:14pm geezerette: VR is another way to corral you into the fb world and keep you there. So many Trojan Horses; and it's all so seductive. I'm as hooked as anyone, I mean I'm here, y' know?
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone! Here's the video we're listening to, of the Samoan firefighters. www.youtube.com...
	6:15pm Michael 98145: virtual wave, gz'ette
	6:15pm Threemoons: @Melinda you go girl! :D
	6:15pm geezerette: I'm a painter. Not much is lower tech than that.
	6:16pm Jeff: I got it from Kathryn!
	6:16pm geezerette: Virtual wave back, Michael. :)
	6:17pm kimzilla: Umm, Is his avatar waist deep in water?
	6:17pm Dean: That bottom photo of shelved library books demonstrates an old, still widely used technology: Library of Congress Classification. The titles are classed in T, Technology, including subclass TA (Engineering (General). Civil engineering) and subclass TF (Railroad engineering and operation).
	6:18pm Jeff: Also apropos of all that VR nonsense - I just want to remind everyone that nobody should ever buy anything made by Oculus Rift or its douchebag founder. www.theguardian.com...
	6:18pm geezerette: No books are outdated if they spur your imagination.
	6:18pm glenn: i love old hand tools. there's nothing more satisfying than making paper thin shavings with a beautiful old plane.
	6:19pm dale: i have some books from the teens on how to build your own aeroplane, hypnotism, and how to become a morse code operator.
	🤖 6:19pm Bas NL: You said it geezerette..
	6:21pm glenn: does anybody still use morse code anymore?
	6:21pm scuzfink1: In case you were wondering what song the Samoan firefighters were singing... https://youtu.be/KM2kbogwgBM
	6:22pm geezerette: Vance Packard's " The Hidden Persuaders " is still relevant. Thanks, Bas. :).
	6:22pm glenn: besides the cosmodemonic telegraph company, that is.
	🤖 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: So if North Korea detonated an EMP like they threatened, we might not be screwed, after all?
	6:24pm Fox: Glenn: I know SOS in morse code purely from the old scrubby sponge commercials.
	6:24pm geezerette: Glenn, yes han tools! Melinda, yes, fermentation! Everyone here;yes,yes,yes!
	6:25pm geezerette: ...hand tools...
	6:25pm dale: this all sounds amazing and enlightening - to a millenial. to anyone over 50 it's just how we grew up and many of us never left that world.
	6:25pm Dean: At this point, geezerette, I think you're obligated to cite the closing passage of Joyce's "Ulysses."
	6:25pm listener james from westwood: I've looked through that million random digits book! Mostly in puzzlement. Spotted it at my college library.
	6:25pm glenn: i'm assuming n.y.c. has tool libraries.
	6:26pm listener james from westwood: The audiobook version of that digit text is basically a numbers station.
	6:27pm Dean: Was just skimming a book on campus here compiling results of formulae given specified values, table after table.
	6:27pm geezerette: Dean, I'd have to re-read it.
	6:28pm Jeff: @dale: My dad continued to call flying machines aeroplanes. I think he did adopt the newfangled "airport" in lieu of aerodrome.
	6:29pm geezerette: Got it here, so will read last page this evening. Thanks!
	6:30pm Dean: It's an...affirmative...closing.
	6:31pm Michael 98145: once, in my dim past, i recall a station going off the air, but before they totally shut down all that was broadcast was a voice counting up numbers
	6:32pm Michael 98145: it was a very sorrowful sound
	6:32pm Dean: The LC classification, like Dewey Decimal Classification, was designed to facilitate "looking around."
	6:34pm geezerette: Nothing can replace the pleasure and value of browsing, wandering; in a book store, library, museum, national park, or a city,(on and on).
	6:36pm glenn: browsing goes against the protestant work ethic, though.
	6:37pm listener james from westwood: Hear, hear, geezerette!
	6:38pm Jeff: I've really enjoyed reading some of the original-version early 20th century Tom Swift ("Tom Swift and his Motorcycle", "Tom Swift and his War Tank" et al) and Hardy Boys books. The casual racism in them is initially shocking but eye-opening, and in general they give a really interesting feel for the time in which and for which they were written.
	6:38pm geezerette: Following your own imagination is almost the definition of being human.
	6:39pm geezerette: Hey, Listener James! :)
	6:40pm geezerette: Jeff, exactly!
	6:40pm dale: i have a couple three tom swifts. tom and his electric rifle and i think tom and his airship. that boy must have been well off.
	6:41pm geezerette: ha!
	6:41pm herb.nyc: As photography is mentioned, prince st betw Broadway / Crosby, in soho, is where Polaroid people hang and display their pix. They'll even shoot you (not ouch).
	6:43pm Jeff: Li'l bit of packet sniffing and Bob's your uncle!
	6:43pm glenn: the first franklin w. dixon was leslie mcfarlane. his son brian came up with peter puck, to explain hockey to americans.
	6:43pm geezerette: @Glenn@6:36: Puritan curse. Resist! :D
	6:44pm chris: btw, this just in. all wifi can be hacked - www.theguardian.com...
	6:45pm Threemoons: @Herb yeah I know the gallery I think...
	6:46pm Jeff: @chris: Yep, here's the paper on it www.krackattacks.com
	6:46pm glenn: oh he was also carolyn keene, for the nancy drew lovers. www.cbc.ca...
	6:47pm Fox: My local library in Jersey City loans out neckties, so people can go on job interviews.
	6:48pm geezerette: Fox, that's wonderful!
	6:49pm Jeff: Google News is maintaining a good live cluster of recent posts about the WPA2 vulnerability. news.google.com...
	🤖 6:49pm Bas NL: I've repaired/restored some 700 vintage synthesizers.. while outdated they are still in high demand!
	6:49pm listener james from westwood: @Fox, that is one of the kindest services I've ever heard a library offering.
	6:49pm Cheri Pi: Cassettes, 8 tracks, microfilm; 33, 48 & 78 players. VHS. Polaroid film.
	6:49pm Michael 98145: only the dogmatic lack imagination
	6:50pm listener james from westwood: Quoting stream-mate Gary Sullivan's opener: Bodegas are our friend.
	6:50pm herb.nyc: Old school photography gave us jokes like "let's go to the darkroom and see what develops", as you wink to the cutie. Kids nowadays ask "what's a darkroom?".
	6:51pm Fox: Outdated tech that most think is no longer needed: RADIO
	6:51pm Eric Hat: Exactly right. Head ye from whence you came.
	6:51pm dale: carburetors. clothes lines. hammers.
	6:51pm Cheri Pi: *45, hahaha
	6:51pm mocherz: working in animation, we usually lean on our digital cintiqs, but man, I miss drawing on paper, sharpening my pencil, and even paper cuts.
	6:51pm listener james from westwood: Kids today are likely to rejoin with the Lydia Deetz line from Beetlejuice: "My life is a dark room. One big dark room." And gods bless'em for replying so.
	6:52pm sweeks: I still love the sound and feel of an old typewriter
	6:52pm geezerette: Fox, haha! Yes!!!
	6:52pm Michael 98145: i like that: a WFMU-targeted radio. it's doable.
	6:52pm sweeks: Old pinball machines too!
	6:52pm Cheri Pi: We still have to transfer floppy disks at our library
	6:53pm herb.nyc: One of my favorite Onion headlines; "internet crashes under weight of cat photos". Oops, I lied, they said baby photos.
	6:53pm mocherz: pinball machines!
	6:53pm dale: radio that only get's one fm station: www.cnet.com...
	6:53pm northguineahills: Amen Threemoons, I picked my house b/c it had a gas stove, and gas stoves are rare in this area of FL. Dig the show, Mark. Trying to get out of work by 7. Of course all obsolete music forms are integral to my existence. Although, I got rid of my 8-tracks when I moved to NYC 17 years ago as my 8-track player was a cabinet, and I had no room. I just moved to FL from Brooklyn, otherwise I'd love to go to Monty Hall. I have an old polaroid (but finding film is a drag), and I have tons of old musical instruments. Is it weird that I have my books organized by their Library of Congress number?
	6:54pm Jeff: @herb.nyc - Changes in standard fluid measures for liquor bottles killed the good ol' joke: Where there are four Episcopalians there's a fifth!
	6:54pm sweeks: side note--as a swag-for-life member, where's my little radio doo-hicky icon?
	6:54pm melinda: @ngh yes
	6:54pm Dean: Chemex coffee maker, c.1990.
	6:55pm glenn: not weird so much as inefficient.
	6:55pm Michael 98145: yes!! bring a danged map!!
	6:55pm dale: northguineahills: you don't need a natural gas line. we use a propane barbecue tank and it lasts a loooong time. just have to run the black pipe line outside.
	6:55pm Dean: The once beloved Thomas Maps guides...
	6:55pm steve: i loooove good pens and writing in notebooks... i usually have 2-4 notebooks of personal and projects and work stuff going at once. im incapable of brainstorming with a computer.
	6:55pm northguineahills: As a geographer, I never use a GPS, I memorize a map beforehand like a normal human being!
	6:56pm Xyrus Blaze: Lead type.
	6:56pm dale: ....and adjust the burners - don't forget that.
	6:56pm melinda: @steve me too. I enjoy writing.
	6:56pm melinda: yes to maps.
	6:57pm Fox: Comic books! Most people buy trades from bookstores these days, and don't buy floppies at all, and Marvel Comics, given their success with the films and shows, is considering no longer making print individual issue comics at all anymore and making it digital only.
	6:57pm Jeff: I still wear a wristwatch which is permanently stuck with the same user interface... and never washes out in bright sunlight or needs a battery!
	6:57pm glenn: i scrapped my high tech coffee maker for a french press and an italian stovetop espresso maker [for weekend caffe macchiatto].
	6:57pm dale: i keep an old western electric dial phone. cordless phones don't work during power outages. shooby taylor!
	🤖 6:57pm Bas NL: Maps, maps, maps, maps, maps.
	6:57pm dale: maps for the win.
	6:58pm Dean: ISWYDT, @Bas NL.
	6:58pm dale: ....and slide rules.
	6:58pm Fox: Filofax.
	6:58pm Michael 98145: kids wouldn't even know how to dial a phone
	6:58pm northguineahills: Thanks Mark!
	6:58pm dale: rolodexes.
	6:58pm Michael 98145: let alone kittens
	6:59pm dale: matches.
	🤖 6:59pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 7:00pm Webhamster Henry: well I missed this completely! that 's what I get for working!
	🤖 8:28pm Webhamster Henry: When books went on sale at my college, I decided that if the price was really low, then they stopped being books and started being art material. But one of my favorite things I got there was a three volume set of American Sewerage Practice, 1915. It's loaded with great graphics, fold-out nomograms, and pictures of laborers inside of huge culverts!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 16, 2017

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