WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 2, 2017

Listener comments!
	6:00pm melinda: Hi all!
	6:01pm zopa: tech is for me!
	6:01pm Mark Hurst: Hello everyone!
	6:04pm Uncle Michael: Hello, Mark.
	6:05pm zopa: Jessamyn is also a contributor to MetaFilter.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Has Richard Smith been doxxed?
	🤖 6:07pm herb.nyc: hi mark and all. wow, 1 day! great. can Jessamyn please sue the White House?
	6:09pm Uncle Michael: roombas phone home?
	6:10pm geezerette: Hey, Mark and folks.
	🤖 6:11pm Ken From Hyde Park: NASA photos showing PR's lights before & after the hurricane - www.theverge.com...
	6:12pm WFMU listener WADE: keep your Blood Glucose Level high
	6:13pm Fuzzy: You're soaking in it.
	🤖 6:14pm Folsom: I just started watching over again the James Burke show Connections. Episode 8 talks about what happens when your privacy is gone with all the credit cards - he figured it out almost 40 years ago.
	🤖 6:14pm herb.nyc: my cat is asking me to pour Gatorade into her water bowl.
	6:15pm queems: it's what plants crave
	6:15pm beast: har har brawndo
	🤖 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: Those Powerwall batteries run about $7k each, installed. Their latest model, anyway. I wonder if these are the previous models that they weren't able to sell.
	6:21pm dale: first trend forecaster i recall is faith popcorn. but i don't know if that title existed before the 80s.
	6:22pm Fuzzy: Alvin Toffler before her with Future Shock.
	🤖 6:24pm herb.nyc: is non-car ownership a trend? due to rise of uber & lyft & others. now we have cat parlors, for the cat-challenged. maybe children parlors?
	6:26pm JakeGould: Another trend: Suburban disconnection maladies happening since urban environments are so kept and taken care of nowadays… You never have to leave home… You can mail order everything. So why live in a city? And what casual interactions does one have nowadays that everything gets delivered.
	6:27pm JakeGould: Like my tech work? I can do it utterly anywhere. Why again am I still in NYC for now? Job requirements that I be in meetings. Past that? No real reason. And I know I am not the only one in a situation like this.
	🤖 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: Downward trend: selling Avon products door to door. Just buy the stuff online, or not.
	🤖 6:30pm herb.nyc: skintight seamless bodysuit? a onesie for adults! ie, a suitsie (google it)
	6:33pm Dean: For me, fatigue set in with the advent of the Web.
	6:34pm Dean: It's not a lemming situation. It's the very compelling draw of the network effect.
	6:34pm melinda: Is facial recognition going to become a standard feature? That would be creepy.
	6:34pm geezerette: The tech we all use is making a lot of people cripplingly self-conscious and isolated. Intuition and imagination are absolutely vulnerable.
	6:35pm JakeGould: @melinda: I don’t like the lack of choice in the realm of biometrics.
	6:35pm melinda: @Jake it's pretty fucked up.
	6:37pm Dean: A hammer is a tool. I can own a hammer, use it when I need it, lend it to a friend or neighbor. A phone is not merely a tool. It only works well if many other people agree to use one, too.
	🤖 6:38pm herb.nyc: nice passage that was just read. right, why should we think. it made me think of KODAK photo signs. here: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:39pm JakeGould: @herb.nyc: Oooo! Thanks for reminding me about that stuff. Gives me an idea.
	6:41pm melinda: @Dean good point.
	🤖 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: I would bet highly that the FBI and/or CIA has research underway to correlate the look of a face with the likelihood that that person is a criminal. Here's the image of a face, what's the chances that this person is a criminal?
	🤖 6:43pm herb.nyc: @jakegould, now go outside and play, with that idea.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: @Ken/Hyde Park read "The Mismeasure of Man", by Stephen J. Gould, a large section is on 19th and 20th century theories about criminal faces (and racial ranking... intelligence testing, sterilization and so much more)
	6:46pm JakeGould: My great grandpa wrote “The Mismeasure of Man”… Based it off of his opinion of my grandma’s face!
	6:47pm Tom from Maplewood: We were at a concert on Sunday night. A person near us wasn’t actually there - they watched the concert on their device’s screen as they made a video of the show. Poor guy.
	🤖 6:49pm herb.nyc: Todd Barry has a joke, of a person in front row of his comedy show. he looks at person's screen, and he's being googled. person hits some youtubes and then gives todd a thumbs up, mouths "you're funny". something like that; sorry for ruining todd's joke.
	🤖 6:51pm herb.nyc: (aside - the editor of STAY FREE! magazine, carrie mclaren, recommended this novel "the savage girl", back in 2002. i read it but i don't think i fully understood it. fyi. description: What is the next trend -- the next "killer app"? This question is very much on the mind of Ursula Van Urden, a burned-out art student who, after her supermodel sister Ivy's widely publicized suicide attempt, has found work as a trendspotter for Tomorrow, Ltd., in the volcano-shadowed metropolis of Middle City....)
	6:53pm Fox: Hi Gio!
	6:54pm JakeGould: Smishing!!!
	🤖 6:56pm herb.nyc: i never heard of smishing. made me think of smushing.
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: They are leveraging similarity to messages that real banks and institutions send when their AI spots an anomaly!
	6:56pm JakeGould: Snishing is what happens when your Jewish uncle pinches your cheek.
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: Jut like the thousands of malware installers claiming to be a Flash Upgrade.
	6:58pm JakeGould: Social Networking + Phishing = SNishing.
	6:58pm melinda: I hate crappy portmanteaus.
	🤖 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Just watch ... smishing.com is probably some scam website.
	🤖 6:58pm herb.nyc: smartphone and phish = smishing
	6:59pm Jeff: What, Ken, that'd mean you're against recursive acronyms! like of course... GNU's Not UNIX.
	6:59pm Rob (Jerzcity): Oh! An improportmanteau!
	6:59pm chris: thanks, gents! great stuff.
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: smishing = SMS phishing
	🤖 7:00pm Webhamster Henry: Wutishing: phishing via Western Union Telegram.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 2, 2017

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Courtney Maum	The Techtonic Interview	An interview with novelist Courtney Maum, author of the recent novel "Touch." And Mark reflects on what tech is FOR.	0:16:35 (Pop-up)
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Mark and Ken	Scam Roundup "Scam Roundup" by "Mark and Ken"		0:53:41 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm melinda: Hi all!
	6:01pm zopa: tech is for me!
	6:01pm Mark Hurst: Hello everyone!
	6:04pm Uncle Michael: Hello, Mark.
	6:05pm zopa: Jessamyn is also a contributor to MetaFilter.
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Has Richard Smith been doxxed?
	🤖 6:07pm herb.nyc: hi mark and all. wow, 1 day! great. can Jessamyn please sue the White House?
	6:09pm Uncle Michael: roombas phone home?
	6:10pm geezerette: Hey, Mark and folks.
	🤖 6:11pm Ken From Hyde Park: NASA photos showing PR's lights before & after the hurricane - www.theverge.com...
	6:12pm WFMU listener WADE: keep your Blood Glucose Level high
	6:13pm Fuzzy: You're soaking in it.
	🤖 6:14pm Folsom: I just started watching over again the James Burke show Connections. Episode 8 talks about what happens when your privacy is gone with all the credit cards - he figured it out almost 40 years ago.
	🤖 6:14pm herb.nyc: my cat is asking me to pour Gatorade into her water bowl.
	6:15pm queems: it's what plants crave
	6:15pm beast: har har brawndo
	🤖 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park: Those Powerwall batteries run about $7k each, installed. Their latest model, anyway. I wonder if these are the previous models that they weren't able to sell.
	6:21pm dale: first trend forecaster i recall is faith popcorn. but i don't know if that title existed before the 80s.
	6:22pm Fuzzy: Alvin Toffler before her with Future Shock.
	🤖 6:24pm herb.nyc: is non-car ownership a trend? due to rise of uber & lyft & others. now we have cat parlors, for the cat-challenged. maybe children parlors?
	6:26pm JakeGould: Another trend: Suburban disconnection maladies happening since urban environments are so kept and taken care of nowadays… You never have to leave home… You can mail order everything. So why live in a city? And what casual interactions does one have nowadays that everything gets delivered.
	6:27pm JakeGould: Like my tech work? I can do it utterly anywhere. Why again am I still in NYC for now? Job requirements that I be in meetings. Past that? No real reason. And I know I am not the only one in a situation like this.
	🤖 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: Downward trend: selling Avon products door to door. Just buy the stuff online, or not.
	🤖 6:30pm herb.nyc: skintight seamless bodysuit? a onesie for adults! ie, a suitsie (google it)
	6:33pm Dean: For me, fatigue set in with the advent of the Web.
	6:34pm Dean: It's not a lemming situation. It's the very compelling draw of the network effect.
	6:34pm melinda: Is facial recognition going to become a standard feature? That would be creepy.
	6:34pm geezerette: The tech we all use is making a lot of people cripplingly self-conscious and isolated. Intuition and imagination are absolutely vulnerable.
	6:35pm JakeGould: @melinda: I don’t like the lack of choice in the realm of biometrics.
	6:35pm melinda: @Jake it's pretty fucked up.
	6:37pm Dean: A hammer is a tool. I can own a hammer, use it when I need it, lend it to a friend or neighbor. A phone is not merely a tool. It only works well if many other people agree to use one, too.
	🤖 6:38pm herb.nyc: nice passage that was just read. right, why should we think. it made me think of KODAK photo signs. here: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:39pm JakeGould: @herb.nyc: Oooo! Thanks for reminding me about that stuff. Gives me an idea.
	6:41pm melinda: @Dean good point.
	🤖 6:41pm Ken From Hyde Park: I would bet highly that the FBI and/or CIA has research underway to correlate the look of a face with the likelihood that that person is a criminal. Here's the image of a face, what's the chances that this person is a criminal?
	🤖 6:43pm herb.nyc: @jakegould, now go outside and play, with that idea.
	🤖 6:45pm Webhamster Henry: @Ken/Hyde Park read "The Mismeasure of Man", by Stephen J. Gould, a large section is on 19th and 20th century theories about criminal faces (and racial ranking... intelligence testing, sterilization and so much more)
	6:46pm JakeGould: My great grandpa wrote “The Mismeasure of Man”… Based it off of his opinion of my grandma’s face!
	6:47pm Tom from Maplewood: We were at a concert on Sunday night. A person near us wasn’t actually there - they watched the concert on their device’s screen as they made a video of the show. Poor guy.
	🤖 6:49pm herb.nyc: Todd Barry has a joke, of a person in front row of his comedy show. he looks at person's screen, and he's being googled. person hits some youtubes and then gives todd a thumbs up, mouths "you're funny". something like that; sorry for ruining todd's joke.
	🤖 6:51pm herb.nyc: (aside - the editor of STAY FREE! magazine, carrie mclaren, recommended this novel "the savage girl", back in 2002. i read it but i don't think i fully understood it. fyi. description: What is the next trend -- the next "killer app"? This question is very much on the mind of Ursula Van Urden, a burned-out art student who, after her supermodel sister Ivy's widely publicized suicide attempt, has found work as a trendspotter for Tomorrow, Ltd., in the volcano-shadowed metropolis of Middle City....)
	6:53pm Fox: Hi Gio!
	6:54pm JakeGould: Smishing!!!
	🤖 6:56pm herb.nyc: i never heard of smishing. made me think of smushing.
	🤖 6:56pm Webhamster Henry: They are leveraging similarity to messages that real banks and institutions send when their AI spots an anomaly!
	6:56pm JakeGould: Snishing is what happens when your Jewish uncle pinches your cheek.
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: Jut like the thousands of malware installers claiming to be a Flash Upgrade.
	6:58pm JakeGould: Social Networking + Phishing = SNishing.
	6:58pm melinda: I hate crappy portmanteaus.
	🤖 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: Just watch ... smishing.com is probably some scam website.
	🤖 6:58pm herb.nyc: smartphone and phish = smishing
	6:59pm Jeff: What, Ken, that'd mean you're against recursive acronyms! like of course... GNU's Not UNIX.
	6:59pm Rob (Jerzcity): Oh! An improportmanteau!
	6:59pm chris: thanks, gents! great stuff.
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: smishing = SMS phishing
	🤖 7:00pm Webhamster Henry: Wutishing: phishing via Western Union Telegram.

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