WFMU: Strength Through Failure with Fabio: Playlist from March 31, 2016

Listener comments!
	3:04pm V Priceless: Hey ho, Fabio!
	👻 3:06pm JtotheK: good afternoon everyone.
	👻 3:08pm Rev. Turnip Druid: DIGGING.
	3:11pm JP from KC: The sounds of madness are filling my office. Must be Fabio... or Bryce... or Irwin... or Brian... or... Damn. Y'all play some weird shit! I love it.
	👻 3:12pm Rev. Turnip Druid: What I've heard of Lumb's Sister qualifies it as a total return to greatness.
	3:14pm βrian: My, isn't this plucky?
	3:16pm P-90: Hi Ho, Fabio and Failurians!
	👻 3:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: The Failure of Old Man Winter's Icy Grip!
	3:22pm northguineahills: That is one of my favorite Derek Bailey albums!
	3:26pm Dean: This Masin/Monti/Pizzin makes me wonder: Does anybody at WFMU ever play works by K. Sorabji?
	3:28pm Dean: Or maybe it's the Powertrio...the piano-heavy piece.
	3:32pm P-90: "Di Lontan fa Specchio il Mare": roughly "Of the Ancient Mirror of the Sea"
	3:36pm P-90: Or "Of the Distant Mirror of the Sea", or perhaps "Of the Lost Mirror of the Sea" is the intention, they may want "Di Lontan" to mean "of/for The Lost"
	3:37pm Dean: In any event, P-90, it's a tribute to the Moody Blues.
	3:38pm Dave in Vermont: Fabio, do you have anything to make dogs feel at ease with me?
	3:39pm Dean: Min Tanaka is set to perform with Cecil Taylor at the Whitney next month.
	3:40pm βrian: Sorabji?: www.google.com...
	3:40pm Dean: And this, just brought to my attention by a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dz_1meBjY
	👻 3:41pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Earlier comment: must have thought Lumb's Sister was a newer product: a new re-issue perhaps? Hadn't heard it until recently. Hugely groovy.
	👻 3:41pm Rev. Turnip Druid: LOPEZ!
	3:42pm Dean: Thanks, βrian. Looks like there are three, at least of couple of those results being my own comment graffiti.
	3:44pm Dean: And it inspired the lyrics to X's "Adult Books."
	3:45pm dale: this is deliciously awful
	3:46pm P-90: Or maybe most literal translation is "In the Distance the Sea Becomes a Mirror". "Fa" is usually "does" or "makes", but we don't say "the sea, he makes like a mirror" in English. Si, "finis terra" is the "end of the earth", also the English expression "land's end", meaning the edge of a landmass.
	3:49pm βrian: I thought land's end meant robin's-egg blue polo shirts.
	3:49pm JP from KC: You can't see or hear it, but I'm giving that comment the slow clap, Brian. Bravo.
	3:51pm nic: hey watched 'Sex & Broadcasting' last night_cool flick_glad you guys are still on the air !!!
	👻 3:53pm mrdonutsu: Inutili - should have known. Damn these guys rock the bells!
	3:53pm P-90: And I could NOT believe that Patty Duke had died. She was only 69. And she loomed really large in a certain generation, disproportionally maybe considering that the there were just a few excellent things she was known for; but there was a time when she was seen by a lot of American teenagers as THE image of a teen in the media they could relate to, endorse, aspire to.
	3:57pm paula pc: this is so lovely
	👻 3:57pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ....and let us not forget, she was the one-time bride of the One True Gomez.
	👻 3:58pm Rev. Turnip Druid: awkward phrasing. edit: "...and let us not forget, she was once the bride of The One True Gomez."
	3:58pm Cecile: Speaking as a person who struggles with depression, Patty was a great advocate for mental health.
	3:59pm Ike: At first I thought that song title was "Bathrooms of Mars." Somebody pls write that song, thanks.
	3:59pm βrian: I love cats, but it's the black dog who always stays close.
	👻 4:01pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Ike: on it.
	4:08pm Lewis: The Black Dog has been much tamer of late and I am thankful...
	4:10pm P-90: In the sixth grade I wrote a play called "gladiators of Mars" that my class was planning to put on, then an assistant principal read it and advised the reacher that it might be seen by parents as "too violent." If I had written it as a farce entitled "Bathrooms of Mars", it might have raised concerns about "bathroom humor". So an eleven year old artist can't catch a break it seems.
	4:11pm βrian: He's no Astro, that black dog. Won't play fetch, sleeps on the treadmill ...
	4:11pm Cecile: every assistant principal I've encountered is the personification of buzzkill
	4:16pm cory: nice rocky pull
	4:16pm P-90: Yeah, the teacher was excited about it, the class thought it was cool, then along comes this administrator to "advise" that we might want to do something else. They really should change the title "Assistant Principal" to "Buzzkiller in Chief". Or "Superintendent of Buzzkill".
	4:20pm Dean: I'm so old that in high school we got away with holding hostage an audience of students and parents in a choir rehearsal room. We announced a political program, The Move, through which we would assume control of the world. A planted heckler provoked one of us to fire a track starter gun (loaned to us by the track coach!) at him. He had palmed a little baggy filled with Hawaiian Punch fruit punch concentrate that splattered all over the fucking place when he smashed it against his chest. We all graduated.
	4:20pm V Priceless: how's about "Something In The Air" for Thunderclap? RIP
	4:22pm nic: horrible
	4:22pm Matt: Amazing.
	4:23pm cory: this song is why i don't hate led zepplin
	👻 4:23pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Assistant principals in junior high INVARIABLY interpreted my back-of-test scribbles as INDISPUTABLE evidence of suicidal risk. All very funny.
	4:23pm ?: does this bed music involve Jan Hammer?
	👻 4:24pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ...and annoying. Funny and annoying.
	4:24pm P-90: I was maybe ahead of my time. A few years later, after Star Wars came out, they all would have said "Oh, the 6th grade is gonna do their own little Star Wars, the parents will think that's so cute!" And no problem.
	4:25pm Whosondephone: What is that synth in the background music? Klav?
	4:27pm cory: @RTD, a buddy and "played russian roulette" with a squirt gun in the early 90s; i had three meetings with my VP. two of them with my parents.
	4:28pm P-90: Thunderclap Newman at 73? They're all dying, and too young...!
	4:28pm cory: i was at belmont junior high, 7th grade
	4:30pm Dean: Early one morning we hung up a sign in the high school quad: SREK CUFNMAD LLAE R'OUY An administrator caught us. "Gentlemen, you'll have to take that down."
	👻 4:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid: mid 1970s for me. It was so fashionable to psycho-analyze the shite out of everything. I usually finished tests early. Turn paper over, nothing to do for ages but draw. Somewhere there's a file of my 'suicidal' doodles that they saved. Would love to see that crap again.
	👻 4:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid: th'MOTEL...
	4:31pm P-90: Marc Bolan, talk about dying too young.
	4:32pm βrian: I enjoyed "good boy" privilege. My V.P. almost caught me engaging in an unsanctioned activity, but couldn't bring himself to believe it. So I pleaded confusion and got off the hook.
	4:32pm cory: almost everyone dies too young
	👻 4:35pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Best friend & I used to spend recess re-enacting our favorite vomit scenes from horror films, using drinking-fountain water.. (ash from 'alien' spewing white robot goo, etc) -- NO IDEA why the VP thought we were troubled.
	4:35pm nic: super !!!
	4:35pm cory: "unsanctioned activity" i wanna hear more
	4:35pm Dean: VP? Vomit Police?
	4:35pm P-90: Dying young seems almost de rigeur for rock musicians. Like it's in the job description, Yes, yes, there are notable exceptions. Like Keef, never the type to follow the rules...
	4:36pm Dean: Well, Keith Richards has been painstaking about maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
	4:37pm Chris from DC: Yes! Made it back for Birchville!
	4:37pm Vomit Police: OK, what's going on here? Again? C'mon, we're going to the office, move along.
	4:38pm Cecile: if you don't partake of illegal goodies, you are still susceptible to secondhand smoke, stress, depression, malnutrition, untreated illnesses and auto accidents.
	4:38pm cory: @p-90, i call bullshit on that
	4:40pm Cecile: but that's true for just about anyone who's on the road fulltime.
	4:41pm βrian: I call Oxford Comma!
	4:41pm Cecile: being able to afford really good doctors might also help with Keith's longevity.
	4:41pm Mark R.: Well, my brain has been completely warped by FMU I guess, because at this point, when I hear high-pitched tones and whines and stuff coming out of the radio, I think it's fine.
	4:41pm cory: there are many more musicians that live life than burn out
	4:42pm βrian: That BCM made perfect sense to me.
	4:43pm Mark R.: right, me too, so...warp-age complete.
	4:43pm cory: wfmu, college radio at a professional level
	4:43pm P-90: Whew, so my song "Bitchville Cat Motel" is still an original title? Close call.
	4:45pm Abe Vigoda: I recently joined the ranks of the dead.
	👻 4:47pm chris: augmented reality... sweet.
	4:47pm Betty White: Just don't hold your breath waiting for ME to drop! Mwah-hahahahahaha!
	4:48pm Dean: Such a misconception, that speakers are the most important components of a good sound system!
	4:49pm Dean: I can't endure headphones or earbuds at all. But one of my favorite engineers, Marc Aubort, does his work with headphones.
	4:52pm common: good to finally have a Thursday off and hear your show live, Fabio! hello all
	4:53pm Cecile: hey, common!
	4:57pm common: how goes it, cecile?
	4:57pm Cecile: okay. OK is enough for me right now.
	4:58pm V Priceless: hey comm!
	4:59pm Dean: Lopez is distinguishing mimesis from poeisis. And he's exactly right about sound reproduction. More often than not it amounts to the latter.
	5:00pm Dean: On a good system, Kavichandra Alexander's recording of Hamza el Din approaches the former.
	5:02pm Cecile: Could you explain what you meant by that, Dean? My formal learning is a little patchy.
	5:08pm Stepchild: The composer Pauline Oliveros has said that in the early days of her electronic music, she would sometimes drop a microphone out the studio window and record the environment, listening while taping. One observation she made was that listening to the recordings later she would always hear sound events that she had been unaware of while first listening. Lopez recordings always remind me of this. YMMV
	5:09pm P-90: Aloha, common.
	5:09pm Dean: Mimesis versus poeisis? Lopez was suggesting that sound reproduction (both recording and playback) can strive to exactly reproduce the (for lack of a better word) qualities of the recorded performance. (We're talking hear about acoustically produced sound.) Usually, for a variety of technical reason, it fails. That is, it is a mimetic failure. (Good thing this is Fabio's show.) The imitation doesn't recreate the original sound and space. But another approach is to strive to create something new with the recording. Translating sounds--even well-recorded sounds--of the rain forest to the streets of NYC can create a new work. This is called poiesis. Very few recordings can achieve anything approaching mimesis. Kavi Alexander does it, as does Marc Rusch at CIMP. When Hamza el Din taps his frame drum, it's as if he's standing there in your listening room. Stunning.
	5:10pm Dean: hear=here
	5:10pm common: hey vp!
	5:10pm Cecile: thank you Dean! That helped me out.
	5:11pm common: p-90!
	5:12pm Dean: Not sure what he means by "symbolic," which is a word with a lot of baggage.
	5:14pm Stepchild: Feel we're just being asked to not hear sounds as birds, frogs, etc. but as sounds.
	5:16pm Stepchild: a la David Tudor's Rainforest
	5:19pm common: cool
	5:19pm V Priceless: whoa
	5:19pm Stepchild: The 3-D "walkaround" aspect seems another parallel w/Tudor. Wonder what if any relation Lopez sees b/w his and Tudor's work?
	5:20pm Cliff: One of the many things I hear about on this station that makes me wish I could be living in the NYC area
	5:20pm Dean: I think he is talking a bit about "acousmatic" music (a topic on one of yesterday's shows on the station), but I also think he is acknowledging the multiple factors of a recording that contribute to its mimetic quality, many of which fail. Still, he transports the recording from source location to Times Square while retaining the relative geo-spatial locations of the discrete sounds (birds, frogs, etc.). A bird on a tree, then, appears sonically as a bird on a billboard, for instance.
	5:20pm V Priceless: how did you get the sign advertisers to agree to THAT?? Even if for 2 or 3 minutes...
	5:22pm common: my thought exactly, vp. get this man a beer.
	5:22pm Dave in Vermont: @dean I think that was on Brian Turner's show on Tuesday www.wfmu.org...
	5:23pm Dean: Thanks, Dave. Yes, Dumitrescu and Avram.
	5:24pm Dave in Vermont: I had it handy b/c I haven't finished listening to it yet.
	5:28pm Dean: Speaking of Turner's show yesterday, during which Dumitrescu mentioned Scelsi a couple times, I see that Chris Watson has recorded and released a limited edition LP of a Scelsi violin and 'cello duo. Watson records nature and wildlife for a living. I wonder how that expertise informs his approach to chamber music.
	5:29pm nic: this is great
	5:29pm sweeks: This reminds me of a movie I just saw this week... Embrace of the Serpent. Anybody seen it? It's set in the Amazon in the early 1900s. Really good...
	5:30pm Ryab: At least i know i am not alone in my sadness due to my inability to experience this.
	5:34pm Dean: Ah, but Watson didn't record the Scelsi!
	5:37pm common: almost saw that today, sweeks. still wanna. saw krisha instead. heard that is great.
	5:41pm sweeks: @common, Yeah it's a pretty incredible movie, showing the other side of colonialism down there. It's also kind of a trippy fantasy as well...
	5:42pm common: @sweeks, think i'll check it out tomorrow.
	5:42pm Tulippe: I need me some of these recordings! Especially the night ones. Sounds wonderful!
	5:43pm Dave in Vermont: Embrace of the Serpent is playing tonight here in Burlington. vtiff.org...
	5:45pm Donut: If I were recording in the jungle at night, I would wrap myself up in kevlar, or a big wool rug.
	5:45pm Dave in Vermont: ...unless you're on the comments board
	5:46pm Dean: How does Francisco distinguish his work from Chris Watson's or those old Environments LPs of the '70s? Serious question. He has already noted the volume of recording he can achieve.
	5:51pm northguineahills: @Dean: I actually have the full collection of the Environments, originally from my grandparents and then finding them at thrift stores.
	5:51pm mink: Long shot, but does anyone know what that animal noise is?
	👻 5:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: I hear the snoring of a glass chicken flute. ....it mocks me.
	5:52pm Cliff: What kind of an animal goes "WWWWEEEEAAHHHH" I wonder
	5:52pm Dean: @ngh: The two or three I heard were impressive at the time. Wish I had the run.
	5:53pm Tommy Haynes: My cat is very intrigued
	5:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...just listening to 'Bitslap' podcast via FMU - he had G'n'R's 'Welcome to the Jungle' done Wimoweh style...
	5:56pm Tulippe: I love this. I have environmental recordings of a rain storm in a Hawaiian rain forest--SO beautiful.
	5:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...ridiculous (/ironically grim) to sublime...
	5:57pm Dean: I've never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music. Actually, I have been to Spain. And still I like the music.
	5:57pm tomasz.: laughing out loud @ bustard
	5:58pm nic: Lopez is great thx bye
	5:59pm Cliff: Really interesting interview and soundscapes today, thanks Fabio and Francisco!
	5:59pm Dean: There was an Environments field recording LP with one side at McDonald's, the other at Jack in the Box.
	6:00pm Stepchild: This is (yet another) peak moment w/Clay!

Strength Through Failure with Fabio: Playlist from March 31, 2016

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The Failure of Noise
The Failure of Sound
The Failure of Rock
The Failure of the Avant Garde
The Failure of the Space Age
The Failure of Jazz
The Failure of Psychedelia
The Failure of Krautrock
The Failure of Electronic
The Failure of Pop
The Failure of Free-form
The Failure of the 20th Century

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March 31, 2016: Special in-studio guest: Sound Artist Francisco Lopez

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
James Last	Mr. Giant Man "Mr. Giant Man" by "James Last"	Voodoo Party	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Nurse With Wound	Finis Terra "Finis Terra" by "Nurse With Wound"	Lumb's Sister	0:08:45 (Pop-up)
Derek Bailey (with Min Tanaka)	Rain Dance (excerpt)	Music and Dance	0:14:16 (Pop-up)
Gigi Masin / Alessandro Monti / Alessandro Pizzin	Satellite	The Wind Collector / As Witness Our Hands	0:21:27 (Pop-up)
Gigi Masin / Alessandro Monti / Alessandro Pizzin	Swallows' Tempest (II)	The Wind Collector / As Witness Our Hands	0:22:14 (Pop-up)
Powertrio	Di Lontan fa Specchio il Mare	Di Lontan	0:24:13 (Pop-up)

Tony Scotti	Come Live With Me "Come Live With Me" by "Tony Scotti"	The Valley of the Dolls	0:54:48 (Pop-up)
T-Rex	Ballrooms Of Mars "Ballrooms Of Mars" by "T-Rex"	The Slider	0:46:38 (Pop-up)
Inutili	Definitive Decisions "Definitive Decisions" by "Inutili"	Elves, Red Sprites, Blue Jets	0:49:43 (Pop-up)
Circle X	hardcases (big Picture) "hardcases (big Picture)" by "Circle X"	Celestial	0:57:18 (Pop-up)
Magical Power Mako	untitled "untitled" by "Magical Power Mako"	Hapmoniym 1972-75 Vol 1	1:04:29 (Pop-up)
Onde	Vloed (excerpt) "Vloed (excerpt)" by "Onde"	Purple	1:09:27 (Pop-up)
13th Floor Elevators	Dust "Dust" by "13th Floor Elevators"	Easter Everywhere	1:14:04 (Pop-up)
Led Zeppelin	Thank You "Thank You" by "Led Zeppelin"	Led Zepplin II	1:17:07 (Pop-up)

Birchville Cat Motel	Bee "Bee" by "Birchville Cat Motel"	Seventh Ruined Hex	1:30:33 (Pop-up)

Francisco Lopez	Jungle-ized (excerpts)	Jungle-ized	2:04:54 (Pop-up)

Francisco López	Yanayacu (Excerpt)	Yanayacu - The Epoche Collection - Vol. 2	2:24:42 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:04pm V Priceless: Hey ho, Fabio!
	👻 3:06pm JtotheK: good afternoon everyone.
	👻 3:08pm Rev. Turnip Druid: DIGGING.
	3:11pm JP from KC: The sounds of madness are filling my office. Must be Fabio... or Bryce... or Irwin... or Brian... or... Damn. Y'all play some weird shit! I love it.
	👻 3:12pm Rev. Turnip Druid: What I've heard of Lumb's Sister qualifies it as a total return to greatness.
	3:14pm βrian: My, isn't this plucky?
	3:16pm P-90: Hi Ho, Fabio and Failurians!
	👻 3:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: The Failure of Old Man Winter's Icy Grip!
	3:22pm northguineahills: That is one of my favorite Derek Bailey albums!
	3:26pm Dean: This Masin/Monti/Pizzin makes me wonder: Does anybody at WFMU ever play works by K. Sorabji?
	3:28pm Dean: Or maybe it's the Powertrio...the piano-heavy piece.
	3:32pm P-90: "Di Lontan fa Specchio il Mare": roughly "Of the Ancient Mirror of the Sea"
	3:36pm P-90: Or "Of the Distant Mirror of the Sea", or perhaps "Of the Lost Mirror of the Sea" is the intention, they may want "Di Lontan" to mean "of/for The Lost"
	3:37pm Dean: In any event, P-90, it's a tribute to the Moody Blues.
	3:38pm Dave in Vermont: Fabio, do you have anything to make dogs feel at ease with me?
	3:39pm Dean: Min Tanaka is set to perform with Cecil Taylor at the Whitney next month.
	3:40pm βrian: Sorabji?: www.google.com...
	3:40pm Dean: And this, just brought to my attention by a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dz_1meBjY
	👻 3:41pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Earlier comment: must have thought Lumb's Sister was a newer product: a new re-issue perhaps? Hadn't heard it until recently. Hugely groovy.
	👻 3:41pm Rev. Turnip Druid: LOPEZ!
	3:42pm Dean: Thanks, βrian. Looks like there are three, at least of couple of those results being my own comment graffiti.
	3:44pm Dean: And it inspired the lyrics to X's "Adult Books."
	3:45pm dale: this is deliciously awful
	3:46pm P-90: Or maybe most literal translation is "In the Distance the Sea Becomes a Mirror". "Fa" is usually "does" or "makes", but we don't say "the sea, he makes like a mirror" in English. Si, "finis terra" is the "end of the earth", also the English expression "land's end", meaning the edge of a landmass.
	3:49pm βrian: I thought land's end meant robin's-egg blue polo shirts.
	3:49pm JP from KC: You can't see or hear it, but I'm giving that comment the slow clap, Brian. Bravo.
	3:51pm nic: hey watched 'Sex & Broadcasting' last night_cool flick_glad you guys are still on the air !!!
	👻 3:53pm mrdonutsu: Inutili - should have known. Damn these guys rock the bells!
	3:53pm P-90: And I could NOT believe that Patty Duke had died. She was only 69. And she loomed really large in a certain generation, disproportionally maybe considering that the there were just a few excellent things she was known for; but there was a time when she was seen by a lot of American teenagers as THE image of a teen in the media they could relate to, endorse, aspire to.
	3:57pm paula pc: this is so lovely
	👻 3:57pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ....and let us not forget, she was the one-time bride of the One True Gomez.
	👻 3:58pm Rev. Turnip Druid: awkward phrasing. edit: "...and let us not forget, she was once the bride of The One True Gomez."
	3:58pm Cecile: Speaking as a person who struggles with depression, Patty was a great advocate for mental health.
	3:59pm Ike: At first I thought that song title was "Bathrooms of Mars." Somebody pls write that song, thanks.
	3:59pm βrian: I love cats, but it's the black dog who always stays close.
	👻 4:01pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Ike: on it.
	4:08pm Lewis: The Black Dog has been much tamer of late and I am thankful...
	4:10pm P-90: In the sixth grade I wrote a play called "gladiators of Mars" that my class was planning to put on, then an assistant principal read it and advised the reacher that it might be seen by parents as "too violent." If I had written it as a farce entitled "Bathrooms of Mars", it might have raised concerns about "bathroom humor". So an eleven year old artist can't catch a break it seems.
	4:11pm βrian: He's no Astro, that black dog. Won't play fetch, sleeps on the treadmill ...
	4:11pm Cecile: every assistant principal I've encountered is the personification of buzzkill
	4:16pm cory: nice rocky pull
	4:16pm P-90: Yeah, the teacher was excited about it, the class thought it was cool, then along comes this administrator to "advise" that we might want to do something else. They really should change the title "Assistant Principal" to "Buzzkiller in Chief". Or "Superintendent of Buzzkill".
	4:20pm Dean: I'm so old that in high school we got away with holding hostage an audience of students and parents in a choir rehearsal room. We announced a political program, The Move, through which we would assume control of the world. A planted heckler provoked one of us to fire a track starter gun (loaned to us by the track coach!) at him. He had palmed a little baggy filled with Hawaiian Punch fruit punch concentrate that splattered all over the fucking place when he smashed it against his chest. We all graduated.
	4:20pm V Priceless: how's about "Something In The Air" for Thunderclap? RIP
	4:22pm nic: horrible
	4:22pm Matt: Amazing.
	4:23pm cory: this song is why i don't hate led zepplin
	👻 4:23pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Assistant principals in junior high INVARIABLY interpreted my back-of-test scribbles as INDISPUTABLE evidence of suicidal risk. All very funny.
	4:23pm ?: does this bed music involve Jan Hammer?
	👻 4:24pm Rev. Turnip Druid: ...and annoying. Funny and annoying.
	4:24pm P-90: I was maybe ahead of my time. A few years later, after Star Wars came out, they all would have said "Oh, the 6th grade is gonna do their own little Star Wars, the parents will think that's so cute!" And no problem.
	4:25pm Whosondephone: What is that synth in the background music? Klav?
	4:27pm cory: @RTD, a buddy and "played russian roulette" with a squirt gun in the early 90s; i had three meetings with my VP. two of them with my parents.
	4:28pm P-90: Thunderclap Newman at 73? They're all dying, and too young...!
	4:28pm cory: i was at belmont junior high, 7th grade
	4:30pm Dean: Early one morning we hung up a sign in the high school quad: SREK CUFNMAD LLAE R'OUY An administrator caught us. "Gentlemen, you'll have to take that down."
	👻 4:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid: mid 1970s for me. It was so fashionable to psycho-analyze the shite out of everything. I usually finished tests early. Turn paper over, nothing to do for ages but draw. Somewhere there's a file of my 'suicidal' doodles that they saved. Would love to see that crap again.
	👻 4:30pm Rev. Turnip Druid: th'MOTEL...
	4:31pm P-90: Marc Bolan, talk about dying too young.
	4:32pm βrian: I enjoyed "good boy" privilege. My V.P. almost caught me engaging in an unsanctioned activity, but couldn't bring himself to believe it. So I pleaded confusion and got off the hook.
	4:32pm cory: almost everyone dies too young
	👻 4:35pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Best friend & I used to spend recess re-enacting our favorite vomit scenes from horror films, using drinking-fountain water.. (ash from 'alien' spewing white robot goo, etc) -- NO IDEA why the VP thought we were troubled.
	4:35pm nic: super !!!
	4:35pm cory: "unsanctioned activity" i wanna hear more
	4:35pm Dean: VP? Vomit Police?
	4:35pm P-90: Dying young seems almost de rigeur for rock musicians. Like it's in the job description, Yes, yes, there are notable exceptions. Like Keef, never the type to follow the rules...
	4:36pm Dean: Well, Keith Richards has been painstaking about maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
	4:37pm Chris from DC: Yes! Made it back for Birchville!
	4:37pm Vomit Police: OK, what's going on here? Again? C'mon, we're going to the office, move along.
	4:38pm Cecile: if you don't partake of illegal goodies, you are still susceptible to secondhand smoke, stress, depression, malnutrition, untreated illnesses and auto accidents.
	4:38pm cory: @p-90, i call bullshit on that
	4:40pm Cecile: but that's true for just about anyone who's on the road fulltime.
	4:41pm βrian: I call Oxford Comma!
	4:41pm Cecile: being able to afford really good doctors might also help with Keith's longevity.
	4:41pm Mark R.: Well, my brain has been completely warped by FMU I guess, because at this point, when I hear high-pitched tones and whines and stuff coming out of the radio, I think it's fine.
	4:41pm cory: there are many more musicians that live life than burn out
	4:42pm βrian: That BCM made perfect sense to me.
	4:43pm Mark R.: right, me too, so...warp-age complete.
	4:43pm cory: wfmu, college radio at a professional level
	4:43pm P-90: Whew, so my song "Bitchville Cat Motel" is still an original title? Close call.
	4:45pm Abe Vigoda: I recently joined the ranks of the dead.
	👻 4:47pm chris: augmented reality... sweet.
	4:47pm Betty White: Just don't hold your breath waiting for ME to drop! Mwah-hahahahahaha!
	4:48pm Dean: Such a misconception, that speakers are the most important components of a good sound system!
	4:49pm Dean: I can't endure headphones or earbuds at all. But one of my favorite engineers, Marc Aubort, does his work with headphones.
	4:52pm common: good to finally have a Thursday off and hear your show live, Fabio! hello all
	4:53pm Cecile: hey, common!
	4:57pm common: how goes it, cecile?
	4:57pm Cecile: okay. OK is enough for me right now.
	4:58pm V Priceless: hey comm!
	4:59pm Dean: Lopez is distinguishing mimesis from poeisis. And he's exactly right about sound reproduction. More often than not it amounts to the latter.
	5:00pm Dean: On a good system, Kavichandra Alexander's recording of Hamza el Din approaches the former.
	5:02pm Cecile: Could you explain what you meant by that, Dean? My formal learning is a little patchy.
	5:08pm Stepchild: The composer Pauline Oliveros has said that in the early days of her electronic music, she would sometimes drop a microphone out the studio window and record the environment, listening while taping. One observation she made was that listening to the recordings later she would always hear sound events that she had been unaware of while first listening. Lopez recordings always remind me of this. YMMV
	5:09pm P-90: Aloha, common.
	5:09pm Dean: Mimesis versus poeisis? Lopez was suggesting that sound reproduction (both recording and playback) can strive to exactly reproduce the (for lack of a better word) qualities of the recorded performance. (We're talking hear about acoustically produced sound.) Usually, for a variety of technical reason, it fails. That is, it is a mimetic failure. (Good thing this is Fabio's show.) The imitation doesn't recreate the original sound and space. But another approach is to strive to create something new with the recording. Translating sounds--even well-recorded sounds--of the rain forest to the streets of NYC can create a new work. This is called poiesis. Very few recordings can achieve anything approaching mimesis. Kavi Alexander does it, as does Marc Rusch at CIMP. When Hamza el Din taps his frame drum, it's as if he's standing there in your listening room. Stunning.
	5:10pm Dean: hear=here
	5:10pm common: hey vp!
	5:10pm Cecile: thank you Dean! That helped me out.
	5:11pm common: p-90!
	5:12pm Dean: Not sure what he means by "symbolic," which is a word with a lot of baggage.
	5:14pm Stepchild: Feel we're just being asked to not hear sounds as birds, frogs, etc. but as sounds.
	5:16pm Stepchild: a la David Tudor's Rainforest
	5:19pm common: cool
	5:19pm V Priceless: whoa
	5:19pm Stepchild: The 3-D "walkaround" aspect seems another parallel w/Tudor. Wonder what if any relation Lopez sees b/w his and Tudor's work?
	5:20pm Cliff: One of the many things I hear about on this station that makes me wish I could be living in the NYC area
	5:20pm Dean: I think he is talking a bit about "acousmatic" music (a topic on one of yesterday's shows on the station), but I also think he is acknowledging the multiple factors of a recording that contribute to its mimetic quality, many of which fail. Still, he transports the recording from source location to Times Square while retaining the relative geo-spatial locations of the discrete sounds (birds, frogs, etc.). A bird on a tree, then, appears sonically as a bird on a billboard, for instance.
	5:20pm V Priceless: how did you get the sign advertisers to agree to THAT?? Even if for 2 or 3 minutes...
	5:22pm common: my thought exactly, vp. get this man a beer.
	5:22pm Dave in Vermont: @dean I think that was on Brian Turner's show on Tuesday www.wfmu.org...
	5:23pm Dean: Thanks, Dave. Yes, Dumitrescu and Avram.
	5:24pm Dave in Vermont: I had it handy b/c I haven't finished listening to it yet.
	5:28pm Dean: Speaking of Turner's show yesterday, during which Dumitrescu mentioned Scelsi a couple times, I see that Chris Watson has recorded and released a limited edition LP of a Scelsi violin and 'cello duo. Watson records nature and wildlife for a living. I wonder how that expertise informs his approach to chamber music.
	5:29pm nic: this is great
	5:29pm sweeks: This reminds me of a movie I just saw this week... Embrace of the Serpent. Anybody seen it? It's set in the Amazon in the early 1900s. Really good...
	5:30pm Ryab: At least i know i am not alone in my sadness due to my inability to experience this.
	5:34pm Dean: Ah, but Watson didn't record the Scelsi!
	5:37pm common: almost saw that today, sweeks. still wanna. saw krisha instead. heard that is great.
	5:41pm sweeks: @common, Yeah it's a pretty incredible movie, showing the other side of colonialism down there. It's also kind of a trippy fantasy as well...
	5:42pm common: @sweeks, think i'll check it out tomorrow.
	5:42pm Tulippe: I need me some of these recordings! Especially the night ones. Sounds wonderful!
	5:43pm Dave in Vermont: Embrace of the Serpent is playing tonight here in Burlington. vtiff.org...
	5:45pm Donut: If I were recording in the jungle at night, I would wrap myself up in kevlar, or a big wool rug.
	5:45pm Dave in Vermont: ...unless you're on the comments board
	5:46pm Dean: How does Francisco distinguish his work from Chris Watson's or those old Environments LPs of the '70s? Serious question. He has already noted the volume of recording he can achieve.
	5:51pm northguineahills: @Dean: I actually have the full collection of the Environments, originally from my grandparents and then finding them at thrift stores.
	5:51pm mink: Long shot, but does anyone know what that animal noise is?
	👻 5:52pm Rev. Turnip Druid: I hear the snoring of a glass chicken flute. ....it mocks me.
	5:52pm Cliff: What kind of an animal goes "WWWWEEEEAAHHHH" I wonder
	5:52pm Dean: @ngh: The two or three I heard were impressive at the time. Wish I had the run.
	5:53pm Tommy Haynes: My cat is very intrigued
	5:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...just listening to 'Bitslap' podcast via FMU - he had G'n'R's 'Welcome to the Jungle' done Wimoweh style...
	5:56pm Tulippe: I love this. I have environmental recordings of a rain storm in a Hawaiian rain forest--SO beautiful.
	5:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...ridiculous (/ironically grim) to sublime...
	5:57pm Dean: I've never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music. Actually, I have been to Spain. And still I like the music.
	5:57pm tomasz.: laughing out loud @ bustard
	5:58pm nic: Lopez is great thx bye
	5:59pm Cliff: Really interesting interview and soundscapes today, thanks Fabio and Francisco!
	5:59pm Dean: There was an Environments field recording LP with one side at McDonald's, the other at Jack in the Box.
	6:00pm Stepchild: This is (yet another) peak moment w/Clay!

Strength Through Failure with Fabio: Playlist from March 31, 2016

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