WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from February 7, 2016

Listener comments!
	10:00pm Dave Mandl: Evening, Super Bowl fans.
	10:02pm JakeGould: I have a “New Order” for the Panthers… Take a walk, Panthers because YOU SUCK! USA! USA! USA!
	10:02pm PMD: I thought this sounded like a new wave. Hi!
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: Greetings PMD, Jake. Yeah, a big New Wave opening to the show tonight.
	10:09pm JakeGould: Anyone here read the Richard Hell memoir? He talks about what jerk he was to Lizzy Mercier Descloux and how it snapped him out of being a d-bag.
	10:11pm Dave Mandl: I bought it when it came out (around a year ago), still haven't read it!
	10:13pm JakeGould: It’s a good read. Won’t spoil anymore but very nice reflections on how he treated some people and the things he saw/did.
	10:13pm Howard F: Haven't heard this African Head Charge track in a while, sounds great!
	10:14pm Dave Mandl: @Howard: Yeah, this is probably my favorite AHC record. Just reissued!
	10:14pm melinda: hi all!
	10:15pm Eric Hat: What up!
	10:16pm Dave Mandl: Evening, melinda, Eric.
	10:19pm Pete L: Where did u find a Ronnie Boykins recording. I thought i was hip Saturn? Label not planet ha ha
	10:20pm Dave Mandl: @Pete: It's an ESP-Disk release. Reissued on CD a few years ago.
	10:20pm coelacanth: hello Dave and all
	10:21pm Pete L: Richard Heck sounded like he was wasted when Todd O phone interviewed him i swear
	10:24pm JakeGould: @PeteL: You mean this interview? He always sounds mush mouthed. wfmu.org...
	10:24pm coelacanth: did richard h.e. double toothpick really change his name again?
	10:29pm JakeGould: Richard Halp
	10:29pm Dave Mandl: Hi coelecanth.
	10:30pm Dave Mandl: Wow, how did I miss that Todd interview? I need to listen to that. I saw him read/talk at the Strand when I bought his book.
	10:32pm joeray: The Starker performance of the Bach Cello Suites on Mercury Living Presence are also highly regarded.
	10:34pm Dave Mandl: @joeray: OK, good to know.
	10:40pm melinda: A great title for an organ piece.
	10:48pm PMD: In current music do they clean out the finger slide tweaks in the guitar? Or are they just louder in this track?
	10:51pm Dave Mandl: @PMD: Good question. I'm not sure. Today there's a good chance they'd "clean up" that stuff. I don't see any reason to do it, but that's just me.
	10:52pm Alejandroool: those finger slide sounds are always noisier on acoustic guitars - also depends where the mic was placed too I imagine..
	10:55pm PMD: @Alejandroool yes I know re acoustic but not many (any?) current tracks that loud.
	10:59pm melinda: Freakwater will be good.
	11:01pm Alejandroool: @PMD I'm not knowledgable enough but I imagine they can eliminate the sound/frequency easily nowadays...
	11:02pm Alejandroool: also perhaps depends if using an acoustic pickup/direct in vs. mic'd ?
	11:03pm coelacanth: as Aleja said about mic placement but also playing technique and even how rough the fingers are. i think often skilled guitarists can play without doin it but do it intentionally.
	11:03pm Dave Mandl: @melinda: Agreed.
	11:04pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Yeah, it depends on a lot of things, including the kind of strings you're using. The (bass guitar) strings I use can be noisy, but I think it's OK.
	11:05pm coelacanth: and yeah, the type of mic too, how it's eqed.
	11:05pm coelacanth: Dave, you use round wound?
	11:07pm coelacanth: (i'm sure you mean materials as well...i'm just asking)
	11:09pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Yup. Rotosounds. Stainless steel. They're extremely bright.
	11:09pm Pete L: This is great. I havent heard that many guys do something with Don Cherry and Lester Bowie, Haden and Holland too i think. Adam Lane eh?
	11:11pm Dave Mandl: @Pete: Yeah, really excellent CD. TBH, the best tracks are very long, too long to play on my show. But the whole disc is good.
	11:11pm Alejandroool: I put Rotosounds on this P-Bass I recently got - so Entwistle... I use "Half-rounds" on my Rickenbacker...
	11:13pm coelacanth: Dave i'm a little surprised! i like your bass playing! maybe your technique compliments those strings because i often don't much like the sounds gotten from round, potentially twangy, bass strings.
	11:17pm coelacanth: ...i'm not very knowledged after all. maybe i think i don't usually like those strings because of players like Flea Les Claypool. (even though i like primus,in general,somehow!)
	11:17pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Thanks! Personally I don't like flatwound strings at all. I've pretty much never used them.
	11:17pm coelacanth: (that is "Flea AND Les...")
	11:18pm Alejandroool: Dave - I think I missed your band featured recently live, is there a link? I'm not a fan of flatwounds much either, no sustain
	11:18pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: I don't want to plug Rorosound strings here, but pretty much all my favorite bass players ever have used them.
	11:20pm Dave Mandl: @Alejandrool: I don't feel comfortable talking about it here, but the band is playing on someone's show here at FMU very soon. Hasn't happened yet.
	11:21pm Alejandroool: fair! thought I missed it.. cool - will keep an ear/eye out
	11:21pm coelacanth: i special-ordered flat-wound strings, but i'm not skilled and don't want my technical shortcomings blaring! A, tomorrow on Joe B. Dave, who are you favorite bassists?
	11:22pm Alejandroool: All these tunes are a great Sunday 'eve wind-down for me...
	11:29pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Off the top of my head, I guess Entwistle, John Wetton, Jack Casady, Percy Jones would be some of the big ones.
	11:35pm coelacanth: so, they all use round-wound? i've been ignorant! i would've guessed that for Percy Jones only. (and i think i'd heard it about Entwistle)
	11:36pm coelacanth: i listened to 3 jethro tull albums in a row today!
	11:37pm Andrew Waterloo: I don't remember anyone outside of the fretless world using flats.
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: Wetton and Entwistle were both heavy Rotosound guys. Percy I'm not sure about, but good chance of it.
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Oh my. Three of them?
	11:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: Mary Wing played an hour's worth of "Locomotive Breath" covers this morning.
	11:38pm Dave Mandl: @Andrew: Classic flatwound sound would be someone like James Jamerson, who of course was great.
	11:38pm Dave Mandl: @Ken: Serious? Sorry I missed that.
	11:39pm rw: Hang on... coelacanth, did you say you like Primus? I looked them up because an acquaintance of mine did a poster for them. Can't say I was particularly impressed.
	11:39pm rw: Oh, and hello!!
	11:40pm josh: Hey just gotta say your choice of music selection has been pretty incredible man, been listening to wfmu for a while and never caught your show, definitely gonna check it out from now on
	11:40pm JakeGould: I remember when everyone was into Primus in college and I just said… Nope… Not for me!
	11:42pm Andrew Waterloo: @Dave, that makes sense. For some reason I always figured that was more to do with the amp.
	11:42pm Alejandroool: if ya haven't seen/heard that isolated Entwistle bass of live Who - don't get fooled again, it's on the youtubs - always impresses
	11:42pm coelacanth: hey rw! yes, some! (i definitely dislike some too.)
	11:43pm coelacanth: i'm nearly sure McCartney used flat-wound strings...and Jack Bruce?
	11:43pm Dave Mandl: @josh: Hi, and thanks!
	11:44pm Ken From Hyde Park: It's true, Dave, but not all of them had flutes.
	11:44pm Dave Mandl: And hi, rw.
	11:44pm Andrew Waterloo: Primus is one of those bands that really hits you when you're younger.
	11:44pm rw: Ha! It's okay. We won't hold it against you. Enjoying the bass geek-out chatter though I have no idea what y'all are talking about. Hey Dave!
	11:45pm Dave Mandl: @Ken: I've got to look that up. I can't always hear Mary live because of the wimpy hours I keep.
	11:50pm Dave Mandl: Sorry about the geeking out. Just answering questions. I try to avoid the tech-talk usually.
	11:50pm coelacanth: regarding 10-of-a-kind, none of them were even a shadow of the original locomotive breath, and some were pretty awful! -entertaining though! ...rw, i've only heard primus on about 4 occasions; about 15 songs total. yes, i enjoyed at least 5 songs.(which are "untitled" and i don't know how they got on my computer.) i don't know what i'll think of it a month from now!
	11:55pm Alejandroool: this is a great sounding set DM - excellent for right now
	11:56pm coelacanth: one last point: i think i like the muddy flat-wound sound because it's the sound i grew up with, with all the 60s' bands.
	11:56pm rw: While we're on Primus and bass geek-out, I have a friend who's in his later 30s and hates all bass when it gets slappy. That sound doesn't bother me so much but he grew up at a time when Red Hot Chili Peppers was the music all the high school jocks listened to.
	11:57pm brendanswfmuaccount: Re: the whole bass strings thing - Makes sense, there's that Rotosound "ad" on The Who Sell Out
	11:57pm coelacanth: i generally agree with you friend!
	11:58pm coelacanth: ..."your" friend, rw!
	11:58pm rw: Midnight on the east coast! Happy Chinese New Year! Thanks Dave!
	11:59pm coelacanth: Thanks Dave! see y'all.
	12:00am JakeGould: Thanks Dave!
	12:01am Dave Mandl: Good night, folks. Have a great week!

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from February 7, 2016

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February 7, 2016

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
New Order	Ceremony "Ceremony" by "New Order"	Substance	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Lizzy Mercier Descloux	Payola "Payola" by "Lizzy Mercier Descloux"	Mambo Nassau	0:04:07 (Pop-up)
African Head Charge	Snakeskin Tracksuit	Environmental Studies	0:08:44 (Pop-up)
Ronnie Boykins	Dawn Is Evening, Afternoon	The Will Come, Is Now	0:15:11 (Pop-up)

J. S. Bach	Suite No. 2 in D Minor, movements 1–2	Suites for Solo Cello (Pierre Fournier)	0:28:55 (Pop-up)
Aine O'Dwyer	Harold's Camping Lament	Music for Church Cleaners Vol. 1 & 2	0:35:25 (Pop-up)
Ilyas Ahmed	Behind Our Eyes "Behind Our Eyes" by "Ilyas Ahmed"	The Vertigo of Dawn	0:40:44 (Pop-up)
Pink Floyd	Grantchester Meadows "Grantchester Meadows" by "Pink Floyd"	Ummagumma	0:44:57 (Pop-up)

Adam Lane's Full Throttle Orchestra	Multiply Then Divide	Live in Ljubljana	0:59:55 (Pop-up)
Boxhead Ensemble	Dust and Rain "Dust and Rain" by "Boxhead Ensemble"	The Last Place to Go	1:07:15 (Pop-up)
Ahleuchatistas	Ostensible Constable	The Same and the Other	1:12:43 (Pop-up)
Boud Deun	Waterford "Waterford" by "Boud Deun"	Stolen Bicycle	1:15:16 (Pop-up)
Kraldjursanstalten	Fet Och Feg "Fet Och Feg" by "Kraldjursanstalten"	Nu Är det Allvar!!!	1:20:22 (Pop-up)

Dean Wareham and Britta Phillips	Mistress America	Mistress America OST	1:27:46 (Pop-up)
Boogarins	Lucifernandis "Lucifernandis" by "Boogarins"	As Plantas Que Curam	1:31:32 (Pop-up)
Jethro Tull	Wond'ring Again "Wond'ring Again" by "Jethro Tull"	Living in the Past	1:35:28 (Pop-up)
Silk Saw	Same Area "Same Area" by "Silk Saw"	Imaginary Landscapes	1:39:40 (Pop-up)

Tindersticks	Second Chance Man "Second Chance Man" by "Tindersticks"	The Waiting Room	1:48:40 (Pop-up)
Nina Simone	He Was Too Good to Me	At the Village Gate	1:52:24 (Pop-up)
Neptune	Dstl Sgnl "Dstl Sgnl" by "Neptune"	Msg Rcvd	1:58:05 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:00pm Dave Mandl: Evening, Super Bowl fans.
	10:02pm JakeGould: I have a “New Order” for the Panthers… Take a walk, Panthers because YOU SUCK! USA! USA! USA!
	10:02pm PMD: I thought this sounded like a new wave. Hi!
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: Greetings PMD, Jake. Yeah, a big New Wave opening to the show tonight.
	10:09pm JakeGould: Anyone here read the Richard Hell memoir? He talks about what jerk he was to Lizzy Mercier Descloux and how it snapped him out of being a d-bag.
	10:11pm Dave Mandl: I bought it when it came out (around a year ago), still haven't read it!
	10:13pm JakeGould: It’s a good read. Won’t spoil anymore but very nice reflections on how he treated some people and the things he saw/did.
	10:13pm Howard F: Haven't heard this African Head Charge track in a while, sounds great!
	10:14pm Dave Mandl: @Howard: Yeah, this is probably my favorite AHC record. Just reissued!
	10:14pm melinda: hi all!
	10:15pm Eric Hat: What up!
	10:16pm Dave Mandl: Evening, melinda, Eric.
	10:19pm Pete L: Where did u find a Ronnie Boykins recording. I thought i was hip Saturn? Label not planet ha ha
	10:20pm Dave Mandl: @Pete: It's an ESP-Disk release. Reissued on CD a few years ago.
	10:20pm coelacanth: hello Dave and all
	10:21pm Pete L: Richard Heck sounded like he was wasted when Todd O phone interviewed him i swear
	10:24pm JakeGould: @PeteL: You mean this interview? He always sounds mush mouthed. wfmu.org...
	10:24pm coelacanth: did richard h.e. double toothpick really change his name again?
	10:29pm JakeGould: Richard Halp
	10:29pm Dave Mandl: Hi coelecanth.
	10:30pm Dave Mandl: Wow, how did I miss that Todd interview? I need to listen to that. I saw him read/talk at the Strand when I bought his book.
	10:32pm joeray: The Starker performance of the Bach Cello Suites on Mercury Living Presence are also highly regarded.
	10:34pm Dave Mandl: @joeray: OK, good to know.
	10:40pm melinda: A great title for an organ piece.
	10:48pm PMD: In current music do they clean out the finger slide tweaks in the guitar? Or are they just louder in this track?
	10:51pm Dave Mandl: @PMD: Good question. I'm not sure. Today there's a good chance they'd "clean up" that stuff. I don't see any reason to do it, but that's just me.
	10:52pm Alejandroool: those finger slide sounds are always noisier on acoustic guitars - also depends where the mic was placed too I imagine..
	10:55pm PMD: @Alejandroool yes I know re acoustic but not many (any?) current tracks that loud.
	10:59pm melinda: Freakwater will be good.
	11:01pm Alejandroool: @PMD I'm not knowledgable enough but I imagine they can eliminate the sound/frequency easily nowadays...
	11:02pm Alejandroool: also perhaps depends if using an acoustic pickup/direct in vs. mic'd ?
	11:03pm coelacanth: as Aleja said about mic placement but also playing technique and even how rough the fingers are. i think often skilled guitarists can play without doin it but do it intentionally.
	11:03pm Dave Mandl: @melinda: Agreed.
	11:04pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Yeah, it depends on a lot of things, including the kind of strings you're using. The (bass guitar) strings I use can be noisy, but I think it's OK.
	11:05pm coelacanth: and yeah, the type of mic too, how it's eqed.
	11:05pm coelacanth: Dave, you use round wound?
	11:07pm coelacanth: (i'm sure you mean materials as well...i'm just asking)
	11:09pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Yup. Rotosounds. Stainless steel. They're extremely bright.
	11:09pm Pete L: This is great. I havent heard that many guys do something with Don Cherry and Lester Bowie, Haden and Holland too i think. Adam Lane eh?
	11:11pm Dave Mandl: @Pete: Yeah, really excellent CD. TBH, the best tracks are very long, too long to play on my show. But the whole disc is good.
	11:11pm Alejandroool: I put Rotosounds on this P-Bass I recently got - so Entwistle... I use "Half-rounds" on my Rickenbacker...
	11:13pm coelacanth: Dave i'm a little surprised! i like your bass playing! maybe your technique compliments those strings because i often don't much like the sounds gotten from round, potentially twangy, bass strings.
	11:17pm coelacanth: ...i'm not very knowledged after all. maybe i think i don't usually like those strings because of players like Flea Les Claypool. (even though i like primus,in general,somehow!)
	11:17pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Thanks! Personally I don't like flatwound strings at all. I've pretty much never used them.
	11:17pm coelacanth: (that is "Flea AND Les...")
	11:18pm Alejandroool: Dave - I think I missed your band featured recently live, is there a link? I'm not a fan of flatwounds much either, no sustain
	11:18pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: I don't want to plug Rorosound strings here, but pretty much all my favorite bass players ever have used them.
	11:20pm Dave Mandl: @Alejandrool: I don't feel comfortable talking about it here, but the band is playing on someone's show here at FMU very soon. Hasn't happened yet.
	11:21pm Alejandroool: fair! thought I missed it.. cool - will keep an ear/eye out
	11:21pm coelacanth: i special-ordered flat-wound strings, but i'm not skilled and don't want my technical shortcomings blaring! A, tomorrow on Joe B. Dave, who are you favorite bassists?
	11:22pm Alejandroool: All these tunes are a great Sunday 'eve wind-down for me...
	11:29pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Off the top of my head, I guess Entwistle, John Wetton, Jack Casady, Percy Jones would be some of the big ones.
	11:35pm coelacanth: so, they all use round-wound? i've been ignorant! i would've guessed that for Percy Jones only. (and i think i'd heard it about Entwistle)
	11:36pm coelacanth: i listened to 3 jethro tull albums in a row today!
	11:37pm Andrew Waterloo: I don't remember anyone outside of the fretless world using flats.
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: Wetton and Entwistle were both heavy Rotosound guys. Percy I'm not sure about, but good chance of it.
	11:37pm Dave Mandl: @coelacanth: Oh my. Three of them?
	11:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: Mary Wing played an hour's worth of "Locomotive Breath" covers this morning.
	11:38pm Dave Mandl: @Andrew: Classic flatwound sound would be someone like James Jamerson, who of course was great.
	11:38pm Dave Mandl: @Ken: Serious? Sorry I missed that.
	11:39pm rw: Hang on... coelacanth, did you say you like Primus? I looked them up because an acquaintance of mine did a poster for them. Can't say I was particularly impressed.
	11:39pm rw: Oh, and hello!!
	11:40pm josh: Hey just gotta say your choice of music selection has been pretty incredible man, been listening to wfmu for a while and never caught your show, definitely gonna check it out from now on
	11:40pm JakeGould: I remember when everyone was into Primus in college and I just said… Nope… Not for me!
	11:42pm Andrew Waterloo: @Dave, that makes sense. For some reason I always figured that was more to do with the amp.
	11:42pm Alejandroool: if ya haven't seen/heard that isolated Entwistle bass of live Who - don't get fooled again, it's on the youtubs - always impresses
	11:42pm coelacanth: hey rw! yes, some! (i definitely dislike some too.)
	11:43pm coelacanth: i'm nearly sure McCartney used flat-wound strings...and Jack Bruce?
	11:43pm Dave Mandl: @josh: Hi, and thanks!
	11:44pm Ken From Hyde Park: It's true, Dave, but not all of them had flutes.
	11:44pm Dave Mandl: And hi, rw.
	11:44pm Andrew Waterloo: Primus is one of those bands that really hits you when you're younger.
	11:44pm rw: Ha! It's okay. We won't hold it against you. Enjoying the bass geek-out chatter though I have no idea what y'all are talking about. Hey Dave!
	11:45pm Dave Mandl: @Ken: I've got to look that up. I can't always hear Mary live because of the wimpy hours I keep.
	11:50pm Dave Mandl: Sorry about the geeking out. Just answering questions. I try to avoid the tech-talk usually.
	11:50pm coelacanth: regarding 10-of-a-kind, none of them were even a shadow of the original locomotive breath, and some were pretty awful! -entertaining though! ...rw, i've only heard primus on about 4 occasions; about 15 songs total. yes, i enjoyed at least 5 songs.(which are "untitled" and i don't know how they got on my computer.) i don't know what i'll think of it a month from now!
	11:55pm Alejandroool: this is a great sounding set DM - excellent for right now
	11:56pm coelacanth: one last point: i think i like the muddy flat-wound sound because it's the sound i grew up with, with all the 60s' bands.
	11:56pm rw: While we're on Primus and bass geek-out, I have a friend who's in his later 30s and hates all bass when it gets slappy. That sound doesn't bother me so much but he grew up at a time when Red Hot Chili Peppers was the music all the high school jocks listened to.
	11:57pm brendanswfmuaccount: Re: the whole bass strings thing - Makes sense, there's that Rotosound "ad" on The Who Sell Out
	11:57pm coelacanth: i generally agree with you friend!
	11:58pm coelacanth: ..."your" friend, rw!
	11:58pm rw: Midnight on the east coast! Happy Chinese New Year! Thanks Dave!
	11:59pm coelacanth: Thanks Dave! see y'all.
	12:00am JakeGould: Thanks Dave!
	12:01am Dave Mandl: Good night, folks. Have a great week!

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from February 7, 2016

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