I still like the Yo La Tengo version of Nuclear War w/ Daniel Carter et al w/ the children. Hearing little kids belting out "It's a mothafucka, donchaknow!" is perfect for the subject matter.
Oh wait Doug you played that? I was listening but must have tuned out for a brief second. I should just play your whole show again verbatim I guess. dammmn
7:13pm
Dean:
The effect was certainly sub my liminal. I recalled having heard (something like) it. Ironically, I'm at home today, where my attention is even more distracted than at work. Nursing a sick kid.
Lovely stuff already, @Jesse. Reminds me how much I've also been loving this Coxsone's compilation that came out this year...www.souljazzrecords.co.uk...
Pretty sure I'll never get into Radiohead, but then I think it was Irwin's show a week or so ago where I mentioned that after years of affirmatively disliking Jethro Tull -- we're talking from c.1975 -- suddenly, about three weeks ago, I realized I enjoyed Jethro Tull.
Oh, and I was referring to the Rajastani musicians, all w/ variations of the surname Khan.
8:27pm
Dean:
Well, you know, the barriers against JT were IA's voice and his constipated flute-shouting, and one of the least pleasant aspects of Radiohead is TY's moaning, so maybe there's hope. Anyway, a few years ago a huge Radiohead fan friend of mine burnt a bunch of their early CDs, which I retain.
I'm trying to reserve the right to get into anything at any point, hopefully without warning. Like in a car where I ask what the song is that's playing that everyone else seems to know.
8:29pm
Dean:
The catalyst for opening my heart to JT, btw, was an interview in which IA recently bemoaned pretty much everything I disliked about the group.
i do agree about Yorke's moaning, but it rarely bothers me. (only on "king of limbs") and mindless repetition vocalising,á la r.e.m. (mostly just on "hail to the thief")
...but the arrangements are excellent,as are the lyrics.
Dean i'd like to hear that interview.
...the way i've felt about jethro tull is that Ian Anderson gradually became a caricature of himself. by the mid 70s his absurdity was beyond amusing!
....but a brilliant musician, at least through "a passion play", then again with "songs from the wood"(...in my so very humble opinion!)
- their early,jazzy stuff is probably my favorite; along with the album "aqualung",though i'm sick-to-death of the overplayed songs.
8:46pm
Dean:
R.E.M. is a four-letter word to my mind. Please don't get me started. But the mindless repetition thing is strikingly prevalent today in pop music, as is non-verbal gesticulating. It reminds me of The Beatles with their "Yeah, yeah, yeahs," but it's somehow less charming or daring even than that.
That is the crux, Jesse, the vocals. My suspicion is that it has something to do with a bias toward purity in music, words and the voice being infections. But there are enough instances of vocal transcendence even in rock -- Daltrey's and Steven Tyler's cataclysmic screams, Jonathan Richman's perfect glibness, Blind Marky Felchtone's supersonic spits -- to redeem the voice.
re: repetetive music, I was watching this documentary on krautrock or something and heard this vague story about Jaki Liebezeit playing jazz before joining Can and someone was like: play more repetitive and simple. that was a revelation
i like much repetitious music, but some r.e.m. songs (and i do like their first 4 albums...), and a few on hail to the thief, just sound like Michael Stipe,or Thom Yorke, is just fucking around after having not thought about the direction to go in at those points in the songs.
...or maybe it's just mindless self-indulgence. (like morressey)
8:59pm
Dean:
If you like repetitious music, you'll LOVE repetitious comments. Earlier today on Tony Coulter's show I wondered whether Pierre Bastien had a song called, "I Moan, Naomi," and now here we are again with The Sperm treated to a palindrome.
For coelacanth: If you like repetitious music, you'll LOVE repetitious comments. Earlier today on Tony Coulter's show I wondered whether Pierre Bastien had a song called, "I Moan, Naomi," and now here we are again with The Sperm treated to a palindrome.
I grew up not far from where the story glenn linked. How the hell do you get eaten by a gator? I used to regularly swim in lakes w/ alligators all the time (sometimes under the influence of alcohol and other substances). You either have to fuck w/ them, or have the displeasure of startling a mama gator during nesting season. They usually stay in 'their' part of the water.
9:29pm
Dean:
NGH, that was my experience in the Southern California suburbs, too.
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northguineahills:
Doug Schulkind:
Jesse K:
Jeff Golick:
Dean:
Jesse K:
Jesse K:
Doug Schulkind:
No, it played on the stream right before I came on. (A little subliminal appetite whetting)
Jesse K:
Dean:
Jeff Golick:
Doug Schulkind:
I did not play it on my show. I added it to the stream's queue to play before my show began.
Dean:
Gary:
Doug Schulkind:
Dean:
Jeff Golick:
Jesse K:
Dean:
Jesse K:
northguineahills:
Jesse K:
northguineahills:
Jesse K:
coelacanth:
Jesse K:
Dean:
Jeff Golick:
coelacanth:
Jesse K:
coelacanth:
northguineahills:
northguineahills:
Dean:
Jeff Golick:
I'm very "uh...sure, ok" with Radiohead.
Dean:
Jesse K:
Dean:
coelacanth:
...but the arrangements are excellent,as are the lyrics.
Jesse K:
coelacanth:
...the way i've felt about jethro tull is that Ian Anderson gradually became a caricature of himself. by the mid 70s his absurdity was beyond amusing!
....but a brilliant musician, at least through "a passion play", then again with "songs from the wood"(...in my so very humble opinion!)
- their early,jazzy stuff is probably my favorite; along with the album "aqualung",though i'm sick-to-death of the overplayed songs.
Dean:
That is the crux, Jesse, the vocals. My suspicion is that it has something to do with a bias toward purity in music, words and the voice being infections. But there are enough instances of vocal transcendence even in rock -- Daltrey's and Steven Tyler's cataclysmic screams, Jonathan Richman's perfect glibness, Blind Marky Felchtone's supersonic spits -- to redeem the voice.
coelacanth:
Dean:
I'm with you, temporally speaking, but it's good to know I should give time to "Song...," too.
Jesse K:
coelacanth:
and thanks for that address. i saved it for later.
Jesse K:
Dean:
Doug Schulkind:
Dean:
coelacanth:
...or maybe it's just mindless self-indulgence. (like morressey)
Dean:
Jesse K:
glenn:
Dean:
Dean:
Mailman Tom:
Jesse K:
northguineahills:
Dean:
northguineahills:
northguineahills:
Jesse K:
Dean:
Doug Schulkind:
coelacanth:
'till then drummers. (and other...)
Squirrel:
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