WFMU: Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from August 22, 2014

Listener comments!
	3:04pm common: hangin in
	3:05pm P-90: TGIF @ Kurt G. and Minotaurians
	3:05pm fred: Hello Kurt
	3:05pm i k e: Nice fish.
	3:06pm Rectitude: hangin out
	3:07pm Kurt Gottschalk: good afternoon, good people. thanks for tuning in.
	3:12pm fred: @Ike: End badly? Well, I'd say that's likely. But why should you be already focusing on the end of what has barely got started?
	3:14pm northguineahills: Really like this version.
	3:15pm Caryn: Hello all! Finally able to listen in again. Nice!
	3:16pm fred: @Caryn: hopefully it's because of a better job, not because of no job
	3:18pm i k e: That's true. I was just trying to discern if you were implying that French girls are especially big trouble, but OF COURSE I'm opposed to painting everybody of a certain nationality with the same brush. After all, we American guys are definitely not all tough cowboys. Well, I am, of course! Yee haw! But, say, Kurt and Bryce aren't.
	3:18pm Caryn: @fred: no, still no job, just plenty of applications. Just been away visiting relatives and enjoying the summer cottage.
	3:21pm Nick Name: @ Ike: i picture kurt as a sheriff, and a good one at that
	3:22pm northguineahills: Woo! I'm in the same boat as Caryn. Now I'm going to take a temp job, b/c everything I've been offered has been far from the city.
	3:23pm Mary Wing: Bryce is a space cowboy, and Kurt is the gangster of love. :-)
	3:25pm Caryn: @ngh: well, at least you've been offered jobs, so things are looking up! Only temp work available here, but even those apparently have 350 applicants per job, so we'll see how things go.
	3:25pm fred: @Ike: All I meant is I think things usually don't work out long term, but that shouldn't spoil the short term. As for brushes, foreign coworkers consistently tell me French women are teases, which puzzles me. But few are Americans, and it's unlikely any one met the one you're talking about. Ignore travel guides, blaze your own path as the maverick you are
	3:26pm Rectitude: Alrighty then mary, that makes you the queen of the galaxy, and me your quartly fool
	3:28pm fred: @Caryn: I was in touch with people in Finland, but they were working for Nokia/Microsoft. "Were" as in "past tense". That wave of layoffs seems to have rocked even academia, hopefully you'll find something soon
	3:29pm i k e: Ha ha Mary! Merci Fred. You're right, of course.
	3:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh, well, i like the way the playlist is going today. carry on!
	3:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: i said carry on!
	3:35pm Caryn: @fred: yeah, in my town unemployment is up about 21 % from last year, and we're now one of the top 5 towns people are moving away from to find jobs elsewhere. I'm looking for a job and apartment on the other side of the country, too.
	3:39pm Mary Wing: Rectitude, I appreciate the sentiment, but there's only one queen of the galaxy: images.dazedcdn.com...
	3:40pm Carmichael: Hello Kurt and fine peoples of the universes. Like Caryn, it's been a long time for me to tune in regularly. Aloha.
	3:40pm Mary Wing: Kurt, turntable 3 does spin backward, the switch is under the tonearm and not in the upper left corner like the old one.
	3:41pm common: carmichael and caryn! ello ello!
	3:41pm Caryn: Hiya, Carm!
	3:41pm northguineahills: yeah, Mary is only the queen of the inner-planetary system.
	3:42pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks, mary!
	3:42pm Rectitude: well someone is playing my soft side. is that an order or request Queen mary ?
	3:42pm northguineahills: Ok, I'm unfamiliar w/ Jerome Kitzke or Easley Blackwood, how is that possible!
	3:44pm fred: @Caryn: Best wishes for both searches. That's a very egoistic thing for me to say: the station will need you as flush with cash as possible when marathon time comes.
	3:46pm Caryn: @fred: heh! True, true.
	3:47pm Mary Wing: Heh. I'm just the queen of my infinite imagination, which is ever-expanding.
	3:48pm Rectitude: As you wish my Queen
	3:51pm Dean: Any idea when this was recorded? Is Zukofsky still playing?
	3:57pm Kurt Gottschalk: this was recorded at the library of congress in 1976, zukofsky also gave the premiere in 1975. don't know if he's still working.
	3:59pm fred: @Caryn: Proof of my keen business sense: I so enjoyed working with Finnish people I was considering moving to Finland
	4:00pm Caryn: @fred: well, that wouldn't necessarily have been a bad idea, so long as you avoid some places. Like this town.
	4:03pm Dean: Thanks, KG. I think he might still be running cp2 and its umbrella operation, Musical Observations. Swell violinist. Not so cool when it comes to intellectual freedom. He is highly protective, if not prudently so, of the income he stands to receive from sales of his father's poetry: http://www.z-site.net/copyright-notice-by-pz/
	4:05pm Kurt Gottschalk: ha, yeah, i stumbled on that just now when looking for information on recent performances.
	4:05pm fred: @Caryn: That's kind of the catch: I liked their dark sense of humor, but part of it might have had them recommend your town as a nice place to live in.
	4:09pm Caryn: @fred: true, after all we are famous as the Chernobyl of Finland (and, funnily enough, the New York of Finland). But that has also lead to us having some of the best mental health services in the country. So there's always a silver lining.
	4:12pm kat330: @Caryn: Helsinki's the "Chernobyl" of Finland? Or am I misremembering where you are? @fred: The Norwegians are no slouches when it comes to dark senses of humor. Philo and I watched the mockumentary "Trollhunter" last night.
	4:13pm Dean: My "six degrees" Zukofsky story: I once met the late Betty Freeman, L.A. arts patron, at a program from a new music series by the Philharmonic. She asked me if we'd met at a party. Er, no, not likely. Freeman commissioned John Cage's "Freeman Etudes," which are marvelously performed on two Mute disks by Irvine Arditti. Cage originally wrote half of the etudes for PZ, who declared he couldn't play them. IA later begged to differ, so JC completed the studies.
	4:17pm Caryn: @kat: not Helsinki, Kouvola in the east. Often compared to Chernobyl in terms of architecture, but also a region that received plenty of nuclear fallout from the actual Chernobyl incident.
	4:18pm Kurt Gottschalk: dean, i'd like to hear you tell that story in exactly 60 seconds and accompanied by david tudor.
	4:19pm kat330: @Caryn: Ah, I had never realized that. Philo's family may be coming over to visit us in October. Oh, sorry, Hi, Kurt! :)
	4:21pm Carmichael: @Caryn: Mrs. Carmichael's grandparents were dairy farmers from Finland, not sure exactly where. But I did learn the subtle stereotyped differences among Finns, Danes, Swedes, etc ... from the not-so-subtle old lady.
	4:21pm Bayta: That last piece was beautiful.
	4:23pm common: space
	4:24pm kat330: No one can hear you moan or intone.
	4:25pm Dean: Pretty sure Eberhard Blum has already performed it that way.
	4:26pm Kurt Gottschalk: the blackwood piece?
	4:26pm fred: @Caryn and Kat: From my (few) interactions with Finns (and these were academics, geeks, or both), they seemed to have the traits I like in Germans and Russians, without the ones I can't stand. Precise when needed, fun otherwise, but with an edge that still isn't hostile. Not as competitive, and they respected my knowing not to challenge further (drinking related, obviously, but not only). Dark often, but also surprisingly open at times
	4:28pm Dean: No. A joke, give or take. I meant the "six degrees" tale.
	4:28pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh, dean, you meant your zukofsky story. ha! sorry.
	4:28pm Rectitude: dont you remember kat www.newyorker.com...
	4:28pm Bayta: No, Without Words.
	4:29pm Bayta: Oh, nvm
	4:30pm kat330: @fred: With Philo and family, I'd add taciturn and even shy. The works of Aki Kaurismaki gave me some insight into the heritage of the man I married.
	4:31pm kat330: @Rectitude -- yes, still better with a caption though! :)
	4:31pm ?: Nice to hear some glass!
	4:32pm Miguel: That was me.
	4:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: good ear, ?
	4:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: hi miguel!
	4:33pm fred: @kat330: I guess taciturn and shy translate to "people I can relate to" for me. So I guess what I call "fun" might not be so for most people
	4:34pm Miguel: I don't know about "runnel," tho.
	4:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: funnwl? tunnel?
	4:35pm Caryn: @fred & kat: finally found the photo I'd been looking for: static.ylilauta.org...
	4:35pm Kurt Gottschalk: -el
	4:36pm Miguel: Can I request some Daniel Lentz? Missa Umbrarum maybe? (New Albion)
	4:37pm kat330: Thanks, Caryn. Interesting comparison indeed. I presume your summer cottage is to the north middle, or the ocean?
	4:39pm Caryn: @kat: there's 2 cottages, one by a lake in southwest Finland, one on an island in the Turku archipelago. Funnily enough, the Kouvola region has the biggest cluster of summer cottages in Finland, apparently.
	4:39pm common: i was in a project called fresh clean scent that played only wine glasses. fun.
	4:40pm Miguel: @common: where was that?
	4:41pm MenfussMike: it is Fray-Lee and not Free-Lee, but I have been calling him Free-Lee since I was a kid too
	4:42pm OTB: I always thought it was "freely," like his cousin I.P.
	4:42pm steve: oo yeah nice scratchies in the background right now
	4:43pm common: miguel: in pittsburgh, mid 90s.
	4:43pm Caryn: Maybe this is one of those names like Bowie, where there's 2 popular pronunciations, and I end up using both in a mishmash way?
	4:44pm Carmichael: Ya Kurt, I also love your bed "music"!
	4:44pm kat330: @caryn: You might enjoy this: soundcloud.com... (or others at the Gristle root -- ooh, that sounds naughty)
	4:44pm fred: @kat330: I worked with Finns, and at some point I said I didn't have a clue about doing an app for Windows Phone (major no-no, usually). The next day they sent me a mock-up, I sent back a prototype a couple of days later, and we had the project running a month early. I've never experienced that level of trust before or since. I had to prove I was worth it, but once I did, that was it. Every issue was dealt with smoothly, out of band, and no ego-trip in sight. Just saying that makes me want to move there again
	4:44pm Miguel: Kurt, you are very serious today, eh?
	4:46pm Miguel: Waiting for rain music.
	4:48pm kat330: @fred: I really wanted to move there back in the early aughts. Philo was against it because I couldn't maneuver without the language skills. He's happy to leave all the financial business and day-to-day engineering to me, and he knows he'd have to take over most of that if we moved to Finland.
	4:48pm steve: at a recent fmu record fair, i ran into one of my old college professors, and told me how Steve Reich visited the school and spoke and took questions, and made it a point to correct everyone who mispronounced the last sound in his last his name. which is apparently pronounced with a SH and no a K. Reish. not like the common noun, reich.
	4:49pm Kurt Gottschalk: i would have preferred the way cage took questions from the audience, with a stack of index cards with answers prepared on them and he'd just read the next one no matter what the question.
	4:50pm Caryn: @kat: nice! My compliments to PG! @fred: well with companies like Supercell and Rovio still going strong, you might still find a nice job over here.
	4:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: miguel, serious? maybe so. every once in a while i feel the need to appear smart. also, string noise gave a beautiful concert last night.
	4:51pm Kurt Gottschalk: listener laurie sent in this clip of ace pronouncing it "fray-lee" as well. ultimateclassicrock.com...
	4:51pm kat330: @Kurt: When is it you do not appear smart?
	4:51pm fred: @Caryn: Speaking of alternate pronunciation, Fumiyo Ikeda is a Japanese dancer who has been living and working in Belgium for at least 30 years. I saw her in a performance a couple of years ago where she read a text in French, and her "r"s were evenly spread between hard flemish ones (extreme even by French standards) and soft Japanese ones closer to "l"s. That was a cool touch
	4:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: kat: when i try to pronounce ... anything.
	4:52pm Caryn: With the long pieces, this may end up one of the shortest Miniature Minotaurs playlists ever. Unless Kurt suddenly pulls a switcheroo during the final hour.
	4:53pm kat330: I must freely disagree.
	4:53pm Kurt Gottschalk: actually, caryn, this was the shortest mm playlist ever: www.wfmu.org...
	4:54pm Carmichael: I think Jim Price has the shortest playlists ever.
	4:54pm kat330: I must also mention MN Jeff's smart animation today. Love the colors.
	4:54pm Mary Wing: It sounded to me like Ace said "freely" but it was really too quick to discern properly.
	4:55pm Caryn: @Kurt: I remember that show, which is why I said this would be one of the shortest, not the shortest.
	4:56pm Kurt Gottschalk: ha, ok caryn. not reading carefully enough. sorry.
	4:56pm common: happy weekending everyone. beersies.
	4:56pm Kurt Gottschalk: yay mn jeff!
	4:56pm Dean: If Ace wants us to hear the proper pronunciation of his name, he should shout it out loud.
	4:57pm fred: @common: the magic word has been said!
	4:58pm kat330: Ace probably doesn't give much of a diddly squat. I know people like Theron have given up and given in to whatever anyone chooses.
	4:58pm Caryn: What with the show title, I can't help but picture the goldfish hanging from a washline or tree branch by one fin a la the kitten poster. @kurt: heh, no worries! I think we both just agree that both playlists are nice and short. And have good animations.
	5:00pm Caryn: I suspect Bowie also doesn't care much anymore about his name's pronunciation. Apart from that one time Tony Orlando pronounced it "Booey". That was hilarious.
	5:00pm Carmichael: My friend Cieran was tired of the mispronunciations, so he spelled his name with a K to solve the problem.
	5:01pm fred: @Caryn: re jobs in Finland (or anywhere): I'm well over 40, ie unemployable old geezer
	5:01pm steve: hmm, ive never heard anyone pronounce Bowie other than bow like "bow and arrow", besides that time Avril Lavigne pronounced it like bow in "take a bow", and then admitted she didn't know who he was.
	5:02pm Dean: One time I heard somebody pronounce Bowie's name like "jones."
	5:03pm Kurt Gottschalk: lester bowie said "booey"
	5:03pm fred: @steve: or like admitted who she was
	5:03pm Caryn: @fred: oh I don't know, my aunt just got her first permanent job for about a decade, and she's pushing 60.
	5:04pm P-90: @ steve: HA!
	5:04pm Mary Wing: Ha ha, Caryn, I found a clip of Tony Orlando saying it! www.youtube.com...
	5:04pm TDK60: I have to remind myself: "Booey" when discussing the rock god.
	5:05pm Rectitude: Sounded like Fray-lee to me
	5:05pm MenfussMike: In 1982, Ace and his buddy, Bobby McAdams, chartered a plane to go gambling in Atlantic City. He got in the plan with his pal and there was 2 pilots. Ace brought on board his briefcase with 20,000 cash and opened it just as they took off, he pulls out a pistol, proceeds to the cockpit and yells "TAKE US TO CUBA!!!!" and follows that with the trademark Ace cackle. Needless to say they did not take that plane home.
	5:05pm kat330: And we'll always have Travolta's Idina Menzel mangle.
	5:06pm steve: www.youtube.com... this will settle this people, re: rock god Bowie
	5:06pm Caryn: @Mary: heh, I went on YT to try and find it right after typing it! Great minds think alike! Well, one great "queen of the solar system" mind, and one addled listener mind.
	5:09pm Mary Wing: I will accept however David Bowie pronounces Frehley, how's that for definitive?
	5:10pm P-90: In Tony O's defence, the legendary American historical figure Big Jim Bowie who invented the Bowie knife and fought at the Alamo was always pronounced "boo-ey". And I believe Davy J. always said Big Jim and his knife were the source for the name...
	5:10pm Caryn: @steve: well, considering how many times Bowie has changed his stage persona, name, and sexual orientation, I'm not taking anything he says at face value. Who knows, maybe he goes through different periods pronouncing it. Heck, he might be saying it "Booey" right now!
	5:10pm SeanG: Ace has the best laugh
	5:10pm Dean: Let's call the whole thing off?
	5:11pm Rectitude: objectify
	5:11pm Ace: cackle
	5:12pm Kurt Gottschalk: p-90, there's every chance that in the early '60s davey jones had only seen the name 'bowie' in print - or mispronounced by brits!
	5:13pm fred: @P-90: as Caryn said, the guy should have last say, but he has had many last says about everything. So anything goes
	5:14pm Caryn: @P-90: yes, there's so many layers. Bowie tends to pronounce his name "Bow-e", but took the name from Jim Bowie, which should be pronounced "Booey", but most Brits tended to pronounce Jim Bowie's name "Boughie". And thus we end up with a perfect storm where people are not sure how Bowie actually intended for people to pronounce the damn thing.
	5:18pm fred: Now that's awkward, trying to paraphrase Caryn's take as she was typing it. I'm ashamed and looking for an exit right now
	5:18pm P-90: Bing Crosby always introduced him as "bow (& arrow)- ey". That should be definitive. @ Kurt G: Exactly! He liked the name, probs had only seen it in print, and pronounced it the way that felt right. Maybe he liked the image of the Bowie Knife cause it sounded real "cutting edge" (sorry!)
	5:19pm Caryn: The Bowie issue makes me happy for names like John Cleese, where there are two common pronunciations, but one is unequivocally correct.
	5:22pm Caryn: The Laborintus track coincided creepily with the movie on tv right now.
	5:22pm TDK60: Aside from his name, anyone like his last album, The Next Day? I sorta like it, maybe.
	5:23pm Mary Wing: I always pronounce John Cleese "throat wobbler mangrove."
	5:23pm Kurt Gottschalk: tdk, i thought the bowie album was quite nice, but it didn't call me for repeat listens. maybe i should have tried harder.
	5:23pm Rectitude: ok then
	5:24pm fred: @Mary: I have it on good authority that this is the only correct Queen-sanctioned way
	5:25pm SeanG: this Berio stuff brought back a great memory when I saw the Sequenzas at the 92nd street Y in 95. Thanks Kurt!
	5:25pm Dean: As long as we're musing on names, it's Hillier, with an additional - before the last syllable. That was often a source of confusion when he led the Hilliard Ensemble. Wait? Hillier Ensemble? Hilliard? Huh?
	5:25pm Caryn: I liked "The Next Day". Not perfect, but there were at least 4 tracks I could listen to repeatedly.
	5:26pm Dean: "additional i before..."
	5:28pm kat330: @fred: as someone who never uses a surname herself, not sure she's the best authority. (Just googled to see it was "Wettin." Hunh.)
	5:30pm SeanG: I think "Outside" was the last Bowie that totally slayed. Earthling is good too.
	5:31pm Carmichael: Flight of the Conchords pronounce it "Bowies [& arrow] In Space".
	5:32pm SeanG: Is Frangry drunk yet?
	5:32pm DJ Stashu: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
	5:32pm fred: Fumiyo Ikeda's name is Wettin??? Now I'm floored, please elaborate!
	5:32pm Carmichael: She's 3 beers in.
	5:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: SeanG, i saw the sequenzi (is that how you'd say that?) at symphony space, sometime after '95 but for a second i thought maybe we were at the same performance.
	5:37pm kat330: @fred: Your Queen is Fumiyo Ikeda?
	5:37pm Caryn: @Mary: hey, found the same clip but in better picture quality: www.youtube.com...
	5:41pm Caryn: @Mary: but worse sound quality. Huh. Swings and roundabouts, innit?
	5:41pm SeanG: Hey Kurt! Yeah, great show. Thanks for playing Berio. Shout out to Stashuuuuuuuuu!
	5:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...wull - this is fun for test-running my new (to me) ADS brand speakers...
	5:44pm Caryn: Ooh, this is lucky. The minute Kurt's show ends, "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai" is on tv!
	5:44pm steve: this music has been a much needed brain massage. thanks Kurt, glad i caught the show today.
	5:46pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks for hanging out with me, everyone! (it ain't over yet, only almost.)
	5:47pm fred: @kat330: No, my queen is Cynthia Loemij. Not my queen, my goddess. I've seen her dance for most of her career. I love watching her getting ready to move, I read that by now, it's awesome. Just the second before she starts. I know how she looks then by now. And that's not really knowledge, it's a physical jolt music can't give me. That's why I like dance better than music, and why I don't know what I'll do when she retires. And I saw her fall once. She recovered so quickly that few people probably noticed. I did, it was a life lesson. That made the old saw "hit the ground running" a thing, physical, painful, real. When she retires, I'm lost
	5:48pm kat330: @Kurt: And thanks for this theatre of voices, sonic and text versions both.
	5:49pm Dan from Augusta: What channel Caryn?
	5:50pm kat330: @fred: That's what I call waxing all starry-eyed! [If P-90 stands for a Pfanstiehl cassette, you've a lot in common with TDK60.]
	5:51pm Caryn: @Dan: it's a Finnish cable movie channel.
	5:51pm Dan from Augusta: This is on vinyl.
	5:52pm kat330: @Dan: Your avatar is appropriate for the dog days of August in Augusta.
	5:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: the lockwood?
	5:55pm Dan from Augusta: Thank you kat330. It is the dog days of summer.
	5:55pm fred: @kat330: Yeah! And it feels great. For now, but this won't last.
	5:56pm kat330: Waxing always turns into waning. A fact of life.
	5:57pm Dean: Did Lockwood compose this? Discogs shows an LP version w/ Roger Meyers, and xi suggests this is an Anderson piece.
	5:58pm P-90: Petula on helium?
	5:58pm kat330: I refer to it as moonburn.
	5:58pm Caryn: Nice, Kurt! Clever switch of the slowdown!
	5:59pm P-90: Petula on nitrous oxide
	5:59pm fred: @kat330: look at this: www.youtube.com...
	5:59pm P-90: Petula on 'ludes
	6:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Petula's hormone treatments are succesful & He will now be 'Peter' ...mostly succesful...
	6:00pm P-90: Petula on male hormone shots
	6:01pm P-90: @ RR: JINX!
	6:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...that's our Pet theory...
	3:33pm Miguel: scaaaarrrrrryyyyy!!!

Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from August 22, 2014

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August 22, 2014: Hang On In There Baby
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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	Approx. start time
Johnny Bristol	Hang on in There Baby		MGM Records	1974	45		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Pestova/Meyer Piano Duo	Music for Amplified Toy Pianos	Works for Two Keyboards - 1	Naxos	2013	CD	Composed by John Cage in 1960	0:03:41 (Pop-up)
The Mad Coyote	The Paha Sapa Give-Back	The Paha Sapa Give-Back	Innova	2014	CD	Composed by Jerome Kitzke	0:16:13 (Pop-up)

Paul Zukovsky with Easley Blackwood	Second Sonata for Violin and Piano	Sessions Sessions Mennin Blackwood	CP2	2002	CD	Composed by Easley Blackwood in 1975	0:37:45 (Pop-up)

Ensemble Dal Niente	Without Words	Without Words	Carrier	2013	CD	Composed by Aaron Einbond	1:00:36 (Pop-up)
Ekmeles	hamadryads "hamadryads" by "Ekmeles"	pneuma	Another Timbre	2014	CD	Composed by Martin Iddon	1:17:26 (Pop-up)

Mivos Quartet	Quartettstudie "Quartettstudie" by "Mivos Quartet"	Reappearances	Carrier	2013	CD	Composed by Wolfgang Rihm (2003-04)	1:40:19 (Pop-up)

Christiane Legrand / Janette Baucomont / Claudine Meunier / Edoardo Sanguineri / Ensemble Musique Vivante / Chorale Expérimentale	Laborintus 2: Premiere parte	Laborintus 2	Harmonia Mundi	1987	CD	Composed by Luciano Berio, perhaps around 1970	1:59:09 (Pop-up)

Theatre of Voices / Paul Hilller	A Ronne	Stories: Berio and Friends	Harmonia Mundi	2011	CD	Composed by Luciano Berio in 1974	2:19:41 (Pop-up)

Ruth Anderson	I Come Out of Your Sleep	Sinopah	Experimental Intermedia	1998	CD	Composed by Annea Lockwood (1997 revision)	2:48:16 (Pop-up)
Petula Clark	The Show is Over "The Show is Over" by "Petula Clark"		Disques Vogues	1967	7"	OMG you guys, i found it on a 45! (except i'm playing it on 33)	2:55:10 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:04pm common: hangin in
	3:05pm P-90: TGIF @ Kurt G. and Minotaurians
	3:05pm fred: Hello Kurt
	3:05pm i k e: Nice fish.
	3:06pm Rectitude: hangin out
	3:07pm Kurt Gottschalk: good afternoon, good people. thanks for tuning in.
	3:12pm fred: @Ike: End badly? Well, I'd say that's likely. But why should you be already focusing on the end of what has barely got started?
	3:14pm northguineahills: Really like this version.
	3:15pm Caryn: Hello all! Finally able to listen in again. Nice!
	3:16pm fred: @Caryn: hopefully it's because of a better job, not because of no job
	3:18pm i k e: That's true. I was just trying to discern if you were implying that French girls are especially big trouble, but OF COURSE I'm opposed to painting everybody of a certain nationality with the same brush. After all, we American guys are definitely not all tough cowboys. Well, I am, of course! Yee haw! But, say, Kurt and Bryce aren't.
	3:18pm Caryn: @fred: no, still no job, just plenty of applications. Just been away visiting relatives and enjoying the summer cottage.
	3:21pm Nick Name: @ Ike: i picture kurt as a sheriff, and a good one at that
	3:22pm northguineahills: Woo! I'm in the same boat as Caryn. Now I'm going to take a temp job, b/c everything I've been offered has been far from the city.
	3:23pm Mary Wing: Bryce is a space cowboy, and Kurt is the gangster of love. :-)
	3:25pm Caryn: @ngh: well, at least you've been offered jobs, so things are looking up! Only temp work available here, but even those apparently have 350 applicants per job, so we'll see how things go.
	3:25pm fred: @Ike: All I meant is I think things usually don't work out long term, but that shouldn't spoil the short term. As for brushes, foreign coworkers consistently tell me French women are teases, which puzzles me. But few are Americans, and it's unlikely any one met the one you're talking about. Ignore travel guides, blaze your own path as the maverick you are
	3:26pm Rectitude: Alrighty then mary, that makes you the queen of the galaxy, and me your quartly fool
	3:28pm fred: @Caryn: I was in touch with people in Finland, but they were working for Nokia/Microsoft. "Were" as in "past tense". That wave of layoffs seems to have rocked even academia, hopefully you'll find something soon
	3:29pm i k e: Ha ha Mary! Merci Fred. You're right, of course.
	3:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh, well, i like the way the playlist is going today. carry on!
	3:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: i said carry on!
	3:35pm Caryn: @fred: yeah, in my town unemployment is up about 21 % from last year, and we're now one of the top 5 towns people are moving away from to find jobs elsewhere. I'm looking for a job and apartment on the other side of the country, too.
	3:39pm Mary Wing: Rectitude, I appreciate the sentiment, but there's only one queen of the galaxy: images.dazedcdn.com...
	3:40pm Carmichael: Hello Kurt and fine peoples of the universes. Like Caryn, it's been a long time for me to tune in regularly. Aloha.
	3:40pm Mary Wing: Kurt, turntable 3 does spin backward, the switch is under the tonearm and not in the upper left corner like the old one.
	3:41pm common: carmichael and caryn! ello ello!
	3:41pm Caryn: Hiya, Carm!
	3:41pm northguineahills: yeah, Mary is only the queen of the inner-planetary system.
	3:42pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks, mary!
	3:42pm Rectitude: well someone is playing my soft side. is that an order or request Queen mary ?
	3:42pm northguineahills: Ok, I'm unfamiliar w/ Jerome Kitzke or Easley Blackwood, how is that possible!
	3:44pm fred: @Caryn: Best wishes for both searches. That's a very egoistic thing for me to say: the station will need you as flush with cash as possible when marathon time comes.
	3:46pm Caryn: @fred: heh! True, true.
	3:47pm Mary Wing: Heh. I'm just the queen of my infinite imagination, which is ever-expanding.
	3:48pm Rectitude: As you wish my Queen
	3:51pm Dean: Any idea when this was recorded? Is Zukofsky still playing?
	3:57pm Kurt Gottschalk: this was recorded at the library of congress in 1976, zukofsky also gave the premiere in 1975. don't know if he's still working.
	3:59pm fred: @Caryn: Proof of my keen business sense: I so enjoyed working with Finnish people I was considering moving to Finland
	4:00pm Caryn: @fred: well, that wouldn't necessarily have been a bad idea, so long as you avoid some places. Like this town.
	4:03pm Dean: Thanks, KG. I think he might still be running cp2 and its umbrella operation, Musical Observations. Swell violinist. Not so cool when it comes to intellectual freedom. He is highly protective, if not prudently so, of the income he stands to receive from sales of his father's poetry: http://www.z-site.net/copyright-notice-by-pz/
	4:05pm Kurt Gottschalk: ha, yeah, i stumbled on that just now when looking for information on recent performances.
	4:05pm fred: @Caryn: That's kind of the catch: I liked their dark sense of humor, but part of it might have had them recommend your town as a nice place to live in.
	4:09pm Caryn: @fred: true, after all we are famous as the Chernobyl of Finland (and, funnily enough, the New York of Finland). But that has also lead to us having some of the best mental health services in the country. So there's always a silver lining.
	4:12pm kat330: @Caryn: Helsinki's the "Chernobyl" of Finland? Or am I misremembering where you are? @fred: The Norwegians are no slouches when it comes to dark senses of humor. Philo and I watched the mockumentary "Trollhunter" last night.
	4:13pm Dean: My "six degrees" Zukofsky story: I once met the late Betty Freeman, L.A. arts patron, at a program from a new music series by the Philharmonic. She asked me if we'd met at a party. Er, no, not likely. Freeman commissioned John Cage's "Freeman Etudes," which are marvelously performed on two Mute disks by Irvine Arditti. Cage originally wrote half of the etudes for PZ, who declared he couldn't play them. IA later begged to differ, so JC completed the studies.
	4:17pm Caryn: @kat: not Helsinki, Kouvola in the east. Often compared to Chernobyl in terms of architecture, but also a region that received plenty of nuclear fallout from the actual Chernobyl incident.
	4:18pm Kurt Gottschalk: dean, i'd like to hear you tell that story in exactly 60 seconds and accompanied by david tudor.
	4:19pm kat330: @Caryn: Ah, I had never realized that. Philo's family may be coming over to visit us in October. Oh, sorry, Hi, Kurt! :)
	4:21pm Carmichael: @Caryn: Mrs. Carmichael's grandparents were dairy farmers from Finland, not sure exactly where. But I did learn the subtle stereotyped differences among Finns, Danes, Swedes, etc ... from the not-so-subtle old lady.
	4:21pm Bayta: That last piece was beautiful.
	4:23pm common: space
	4:24pm kat330: No one can hear you moan or intone.
	4:25pm Dean: Pretty sure Eberhard Blum has already performed it that way.
	4:26pm Kurt Gottschalk: the blackwood piece?
	4:26pm fred: @Caryn and Kat: From my (few) interactions with Finns (and these were academics, geeks, or both), they seemed to have the traits I like in Germans and Russians, without the ones I can't stand. Precise when needed, fun otherwise, but with an edge that still isn't hostile. Not as competitive, and they respected my knowing not to challenge further (drinking related, obviously, but not only). Dark often, but also surprisingly open at times
	4:28pm Dean: No. A joke, give or take. I meant the "six degrees" tale.
	4:28pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh, dean, you meant your zukofsky story. ha! sorry.
	4:28pm Rectitude: dont you remember kat www.newyorker.com...
	4:28pm Bayta: No, Without Words.
	4:29pm Bayta: Oh, nvm
	4:30pm kat330: @fred: With Philo and family, I'd add taciturn and even shy. The works of Aki Kaurismaki gave me some insight into the heritage of the man I married.
	4:31pm kat330: @Rectitude -- yes, still better with a caption though! :)
	4:31pm ?: Nice to hear some glass!
	4:32pm Miguel: That was me.
	4:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: good ear, ?
	4:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: hi miguel!
	4:33pm fred: @kat330: I guess taciturn and shy translate to "people I can relate to" for me. So I guess what I call "fun" might not be so for most people
	4:34pm Miguel: I don't know about "runnel," tho.
	4:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: funnwl? tunnel?
	4:35pm Caryn: @fred & kat: finally found the photo I'd been looking for: static.ylilauta.org...
	4:35pm Kurt Gottschalk: -el
	4:36pm Miguel: Can I request some Daniel Lentz? Missa Umbrarum maybe? (New Albion)
	4:37pm kat330: Thanks, Caryn. Interesting comparison indeed. I presume your summer cottage is to the north middle, or the ocean?
	4:39pm Caryn: @kat: there's 2 cottages, one by a lake in southwest Finland, one on an island in the Turku archipelago. Funnily enough, the Kouvola region has the biggest cluster of summer cottages in Finland, apparently.
	4:39pm common: i was in a project called fresh clean scent that played only wine glasses. fun.
	4:40pm Miguel: @common: where was that?
	4:41pm MenfussMike: it is Fray-Lee and not Free-Lee, but I have been calling him Free-Lee since I was a kid too
	4:42pm OTB: I always thought it was "freely," like his cousin I.P.
	4:42pm steve: oo yeah nice scratchies in the background right now
	4:43pm common: miguel: in pittsburgh, mid 90s.
	4:43pm Caryn: Maybe this is one of those names like Bowie, where there's 2 popular pronunciations, and I end up using both in a mishmash way?
	4:44pm Carmichael: Ya Kurt, I also love your bed "music"!
	4:44pm kat330: @caryn: You might enjoy this: soundcloud.com... (or others at the Gristle root -- ooh, that sounds naughty)
	4:44pm fred: @kat330: I worked with Finns, and at some point I said I didn't have a clue about doing an app for Windows Phone (major no-no, usually). The next day they sent me a mock-up, I sent back a prototype a couple of days later, and we had the project running a month early. I've never experienced that level of trust before or since. I had to prove I was worth it, but once I did, that was it. Every issue was dealt with smoothly, out of band, and no ego-trip in sight. Just saying that makes me want to move there again
	4:44pm Miguel: Kurt, you are very serious today, eh?
	4:46pm Miguel: Waiting for rain music.
	4:48pm kat330: @fred: I really wanted to move there back in the early aughts. Philo was against it because I couldn't maneuver without the language skills. He's happy to leave all the financial business and day-to-day engineering to me, and he knows he'd have to take over most of that if we moved to Finland.
	4:48pm steve: at a recent fmu record fair, i ran into one of my old college professors, and told me how Steve Reich visited the school and spoke and took questions, and made it a point to correct everyone who mispronounced the last sound in his last his name. which is apparently pronounced with a SH and no a K. Reish. not like the common noun, reich.
	4:49pm Kurt Gottschalk: i would have preferred the way cage took questions from the audience, with a stack of index cards with answers prepared on them and he'd just read the next one no matter what the question.
	4:50pm Caryn: @kat: nice! My compliments to PG! @fred: well with companies like Supercell and Rovio still going strong, you might still find a nice job over here.
	4:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: miguel, serious? maybe so. every once in a while i feel the need to appear smart. also, string noise gave a beautiful concert last night.
	4:51pm Kurt Gottschalk: listener laurie sent in this clip of ace pronouncing it "fray-lee" as well. ultimateclassicrock.com...
	4:51pm kat330: @Kurt: When is it you do not appear smart?
	4:51pm fred: @Caryn: Speaking of alternate pronunciation, Fumiyo Ikeda is a Japanese dancer who has been living and working in Belgium for at least 30 years. I saw her in a performance a couple of years ago where she read a text in French, and her "r"s were evenly spread between hard flemish ones (extreme even by French standards) and soft Japanese ones closer to "l"s. That was a cool touch
	4:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: kat: when i try to pronounce ... anything.
	4:52pm Caryn: With the long pieces, this may end up one of the shortest Miniature Minotaurs playlists ever. Unless Kurt suddenly pulls a switcheroo during the final hour.
	4:53pm kat330: I must freely disagree.
	4:53pm Kurt Gottschalk: actually, caryn, this was the shortest mm playlist ever: www.wfmu.org...
	4:54pm Carmichael: I think Jim Price has the shortest playlists ever.
	4:54pm kat330: I must also mention MN Jeff's smart animation today. Love the colors.
	4:54pm Mary Wing: It sounded to me like Ace said "freely" but it was really too quick to discern properly.
	4:55pm Caryn: @Kurt: I remember that show, which is why I said this would be one of the shortest, not the shortest.
	4:56pm Kurt Gottschalk: ha, ok caryn. not reading carefully enough. sorry.
	4:56pm common: happy weekending everyone. beersies.
	4:56pm Kurt Gottschalk: yay mn jeff!
	4:56pm Dean: If Ace wants us to hear the proper pronunciation of his name, he should shout it out loud.
	4:57pm fred: @common: the magic word has been said!
	4:58pm kat330: Ace probably doesn't give much of a diddly squat. I know people like Theron have given up and given in to whatever anyone chooses.
	4:58pm Caryn: What with the show title, I can't help but picture the goldfish hanging from a washline or tree branch by one fin a la the kitten poster. @kurt: heh, no worries! I think we both just agree that both playlists are nice and short. And have good animations.
	5:00pm Caryn: I suspect Bowie also doesn't care much anymore about his name's pronunciation. Apart from that one time Tony Orlando pronounced it "Booey". That was hilarious.
	5:00pm Carmichael: My friend Cieran was tired of the mispronunciations, so he spelled his name with a K to solve the problem.
	5:01pm fred: @Caryn: re jobs in Finland (or anywhere): I'm well over 40, ie unemployable old geezer
	5:01pm steve: hmm, ive never heard anyone pronounce Bowie other than bow like "bow and arrow", besides that time Avril Lavigne pronounced it like bow in "take a bow", and then admitted she didn't know who he was.
	5:02pm Dean: One time I heard somebody pronounce Bowie's name like "jones."
	5:03pm Kurt Gottschalk: lester bowie said "booey"
	5:03pm fred: @steve: or like admitted who she was
	5:03pm Caryn: @fred: oh I don't know, my aunt just got her first permanent job for about a decade, and she's pushing 60.
	5:04pm P-90: @ steve: HA!
	5:04pm Mary Wing: Ha ha, Caryn, I found a clip of Tony Orlando saying it! www.youtube.com...
	5:04pm TDK60: I have to remind myself: "Booey" when discussing the rock god.
	5:05pm Rectitude: Sounded like Fray-lee to me
	5:05pm MenfussMike: In 1982, Ace and his buddy, Bobby McAdams, chartered a plane to go gambling in Atlantic City. He got in the plan with his pal and there was 2 pilots. Ace brought on board his briefcase with 20,000 cash and opened it just as they took off, he pulls out a pistol, proceeds to the cockpit and yells "TAKE US TO CUBA!!!!" and follows that with the trademark Ace cackle. Needless to say they did not take that plane home.
	5:05pm kat330: And we'll always have Travolta's Idina Menzel mangle.
	5:06pm steve: www.youtube.com... this will settle this people, re: rock god Bowie
	5:06pm Caryn: @Mary: heh, I went on YT to try and find it right after typing it! Great minds think alike! Well, one great "queen of the solar system" mind, and one addled listener mind.
	5:09pm Mary Wing: I will accept however David Bowie pronounces Frehley, how's that for definitive?
	5:10pm P-90: In Tony O's defence, the legendary American historical figure Big Jim Bowie who invented the Bowie knife and fought at the Alamo was always pronounced "boo-ey". And I believe Davy J. always said Big Jim and his knife were the source for the name...
	5:10pm Caryn: @steve: well, considering how many times Bowie has changed his stage persona, name, and sexual orientation, I'm not taking anything he says at face value. Who knows, maybe he goes through different periods pronouncing it. Heck, he might be saying it "Booey" right now!
	5:10pm SeanG: Ace has the best laugh
	5:10pm Dean: Let's call the whole thing off?
	5:11pm Rectitude: objectify
	5:11pm Ace: cackle
	5:12pm Kurt Gottschalk: p-90, there's every chance that in the early '60s davey jones had only seen the name 'bowie' in print - or mispronounced by brits!
	5:13pm fred: @P-90: as Caryn said, the guy should have last say, but he has had many last says about everything. So anything goes
	5:14pm Caryn: @P-90: yes, there's so many layers. Bowie tends to pronounce his name "Bow-e", but took the name from Jim Bowie, which should be pronounced "Booey", but most Brits tended to pronounce Jim Bowie's name "Boughie". And thus we end up with a perfect storm where people are not sure how Bowie actually intended for people to pronounce the damn thing.
	5:18pm fred: Now that's awkward, trying to paraphrase Caryn's take as she was typing it. I'm ashamed and looking for an exit right now
	5:18pm P-90: Bing Crosby always introduced him as "bow (& arrow)- ey". That should be definitive. @ Kurt G: Exactly! He liked the name, probs had only seen it in print, and pronounced it the way that felt right. Maybe he liked the image of the Bowie Knife cause it sounded real "cutting edge" (sorry!)
	5:19pm Caryn: The Bowie issue makes me happy for names like John Cleese, where there are two common pronunciations, but one is unequivocally correct.
	5:22pm Caryn: The Laborintus track coincided creepily with the movie on tv right now.
	5:22pm TDK60: Aside from his name, anyone like his last album, The Next Day? I sorta like it, maybe.
	5:23pm Mary Wing: I always pronounce John Cleese "throat wobbler mangrove."
	5:23pm Kurt Gottschalk: tdk, i thought the bowie album was quite nice, but it didn't call me for repeat listens. maybe i should have tried harder.
	5:23pm Rectitude: ok then
	5:24pm fred: @Mary: I have it on good authority that this is the only correct Queen-sanctioned way
	5:25pm SeanG: this Berio stuff brought back a great memory when I saw the Sequenzas at the 92nd street Y in 95. Thanks Kurt!
	5:25pm Dean: As long as we're musing on names, it's Hillier, with an additional - before the last syllable. That was often a source of confusion when he led the Hilliard Ensemble. Wait? Hillier Ensemble? Hilliard? Huh?
	5:25pm Caryn: I liked "The Next Day". Not perfect, but there were at least 4 tracks I could listen to repeatedly.
	5:26pm Dean: "additional i before..."
	5:28pm kat330: @fred: as someone who never uses a surname herself, not sure she's the best authority. (Just googled to see it was "Wettin." Hunh.)
	5:30pm SeanG: I think "Outside" was the last Bowie that totally slayed. Earthling is good too.
	5:31pm Carmichael: Flight of the Conchords pronounce it "Bowies [& arrow] In Space".
	5:32pm SeanG: Is Frangry drunk yet?
	5:32pm DJ Stashu: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
	5:32pm fred: Fumiyo Ikeda's name is Wettin??? Now I'm floored, please elaborate!
	5:32pm Carmichael: She's 3 beers in.
	5:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: SeanG, i saw the sequenzi (is that how you'd say that?) at symphony space, sometime after '95 but for a second i thought maybe we were at the same performance.
	5:37pm kat330: @fred: Your Queen is Fumiyo Ikeda?
	5:37pm Caryn: @Mary: hey, found the same clip but in better picture quality: www.youtube.com...
	5:41pm Caryn: @Mary: but worse sound quality. Huh. Swings and roundabouts, innit?
	5:41pm SeanG: Hey Kurt! Yeah, great show. Thanks for playing Berio. Shout out to Stashuuuuuuuuu!
	5:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...wull - this is fun for test-running my new (to me) ADS brand speakers...
	5:44pm Caryn: Ooh, this is lucky. The minute Kurt's show ends, "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai" is on tv!
	5:44pm steve: this music has been a much needed brain massage. thanks Kurt, glad i caught the show today.
	5:46pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks for hanging out with me, everyone! (it ain't over yet, only almost.)
	5:47pm fred: @kat330: No, my queen is Cynthia Loemij. Not my queen, my goddess. I've seen her dance for most of her career. I love watching her getting ready to move, I read that by now, it's awesome. Just the second before she starts. I know how she looks then by now. And that's not really knowledge, it's a physical jolt music can't give me. That's why I like dance better than music, and why I don't know what I'll do when she retires. And I saw her fall once. She recovered so quickly that few people probably noticed. I did, it was a life lesson. That made the old saw "hit the ground running" a thing, physical, painful, real. When she retires, I'm lost
	5:48pm kat330: @Kurt: And thanks for this theatre of voices, sonic and text versions both.
	5:49pm Dan from Augusta: What channel Caryn?
	5:50pm kat330: @fred: That's what I call waxing all starry-eyed! [If P-90 stands for a Pfanstiehl cassette, you've a lot in common with TDK60.]
	5:51pm Caryn: @Dan: it's a Finnish cable movie channel.
	5:51pm Dan from Augusta: This is on vinyl.
	5:52pm kat330: @Dan: Your avatar is appropriate for the dog days of August in Augusta.
	5:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: the lockwood?
	5:55pm Dan from Augusta: Thank you kat330. It is the dog days of summer.
	5:55pm fred: @kat330: Yeah! And it feels great. For now, but this won't last.
	5:56pm kat330: Waxing always turns into waning. A fact of life.
	5:57pm Dean: Did Lockwood compose this? Discogs shows an LP version w/ Roger Meyers, and xi suggests this is an Anderson piece.
	5:58pm P-90: Petula on helium?
	5:58pm kat330: I refer to it as moonburn.
	5:58pm Caryn: Nice, Kurt! Clever switch of the slowdown!
	5:59pm P-90: Petula on nitrous oxide
	5:59pm fred: @kat330: look at this: www.youtube.com...
	5:59pm P-90: Petula on 'ludes
	6:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Petula's hormone treatments are succesful & He will now be 'Peter' ...mostly succesful...
	6:00pm P-90: Petula on male hormone shots
	6:01pm P-90: @ RR: JINX!
	6:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...that's our Pet theory...
	3:33pm Miguel: scaaaarrrrrryyyyy!!!

Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from August 22, 2014

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