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Favoriting November 10, 2013: With guests Chris Nelson and Phil Dray of the Scene Is Now

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Kobat  Akarso   Favoriting Kobat  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
The Ordinaires  Grace   Favoriting The Ordinaires  0:02:41 (Pop-up)
 
The Scene Is Now  Falling Leaves   Favoriting Songbirds Lie  0:12:32 (Pop-up)
 
The Scene Is Now  Last Call   Favoriting Magpie Alarm  0:28:38 (Pop-up)
The Scene Is Now  A Man's Coconut   Favoriting The Oily Years (1983-1993)  0:30:53 (Pop-up)
The Scene Is Now  Pin Wheel   Favoriting The Oily Years (1983-1993)  0:33:04 (Pop-up)
 
The Scene Is Now  Rope   Favoriting Burn All Your Records  0:45:08 (Pop-up)
The Scene Is Now  Pickle Barrel   Favoriting The Oily Years (1983-1993)  0:46:38 (Pop-up)
The Scene Is Now  Carla   Favoriting The Oily Years (1983-1993)  0:50:14 (Pop-up)
 
The Scene Is Now  Dinah Shore   Favoriting The Oily Years (1983-1993)  0:57:18 (Pop-up)
Glaxo Babies  Because of You   Favoriting Dreams Interrupted: The Bewilderbeat Years 1978-1980  1:01:15 (Pop-up)
Freedom's Children  The Kid He Came from Hazareth   Favoriting Astra  1:05:40 (Pop-up)
Michael Intriere & Anna Homler  Voyage   Favoriting V/A: The Blorp Esette Gazette, Volume One  1:09:09 (Pop-up)
The Black Watch  Sum   Favoriting The End of When  1:10:46 (Pop-up)
 
Tindersticks  She's Gone   Favoriting Across Six Leap Years  1:23:03 (Pop-up)
Gary Lucas  Mon Oncle   Favoriting Cinefantastique  1:27:58 (Pop-up)
Susana Santos Silva / Torbjörn Zetterberg  Action Jan-Olov   Favoriting Almost Tomorrow  1:31:29 (Pop-up)
Hypnotic Brass Ensemble  Rebel Rousin   Favoriting Fly: A Prelude to Customs  1:33:31 (Pop-up)
M. Gira/D. Matz  Cold Creeping   Favoriting What We Did  1:36:48 (Pop-up)
 
Fredric  Federal Reserve Bank Blues   Favoriting Phases and Faces  1:47:04 (Pop-up)
Fraser & DeBolt  All This Paradise   Favoriting Fraser & DeBolt (with Ian Guenther)  1:50:45 (Pop-up)
Gilberto Gil  Meteorum   Favoriting Z300 Anos de Zumbi  1:52:29 (Pop-up)
Charlie Haden  Turnaround   Favoriting The Golden Number  1:58:10 (Pop-up)
 
Carl Orff & Gunilid Keetman  Improvisations in Four-Four Time/Improvisations in Three-Four Time/Tommy's Fallen in the Pond   Favoriting Music for Children  2:09:58 (Pop-up)
Burkhard Stangl  #2 Unfinished   Favoriting Unfinished. For William Turner, painter  2:13:19 (Pop-up)
Luciano Cilio  Quarto Quadro "Dell'Universo Assente" da "Dialoghi dal Presente"   Favoriting Dell'Universo Assente  2:32:10 (Pop-up)
 
Disappears  Weird House   Favoriting Era  2:42:39 (Pop-up)
Eyeless in Gaza  Voice from the Tracks   Favoriting Caught in Flux  2:46:01 (Pop-up)
The Bad Plus  Keep the Bugs off Your Glass and the Bears off Your Ass   Favoriting These Are the Vistas  2:49:58 (Pop-up)
Experimental Audio Research  [track 1]   Favoriting Data Rape  2:56:18 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  Swag For Life Member 9:01pm
12539:

Evening, Dave.
Avatar 9:02pm
Dave Mandl:

Evening, 12539. Evening, everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

DaveNation !
  9:05pm
bloopy:

Hey dave :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good evening, Echoians. Any more Daves here tonight?
Avatar 9:11pm
glenn:

fuck a bunch of daves. :]
Avatar 9:16pm
glenn:

just kidding daves. i luvs all of yez.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:17pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...my gang will get you glenn...we are legion...
- reminds me a tad of Iggy when he croons here - appealing - nice tune too!
Avatar 9:18pm
glenn:

i can call up my crack smoking mayor. he'll kill all you motherfuckers.
Avatar 9:21pm
glenn:

if you don't believe me - www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- the U.S. has them too, glenn...
  9:28pm
Marmalade Kitty:

Good to see a mayor with humanity! :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- hmm - like Ween & Tindersticks had a child - & it ended up surprisingly well-adjusted !
...I *do* say the strangest things...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36pm
pacific standard simon:

First time I ever heard of someone gettin' that huge while doing crack.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...looks like they may pre-date them both, though!...
- I just want to see that Mayor in the same room w/ Christie...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:39pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...complex but catchy/accessible - that's impressive...
  9:46pm
sweet cheri:

hey greetings dave, what's your pleasure?
Avatar 9:50pm
Dave Mandl:

Hey Cheri and everyone. Busy with my guests here, but I'll join you in a bit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...or, put it another way (?) - the songwriting & the somewhat unusual architecture/arranging are blended in a surprising but semaless way...Well - I like it whether I make sense or not! : ) ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...'seamless'
- various comparisons have drifted past my mind - Beefheart, Devo, Talking Heads, XTC, Flesheaters
...you know what they say about comparisons!...
  Swag For Life Member 9:57pm
12539:

Thanks, guests!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- yeah Thx !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01pm
pacific standard simon:

"...you know what they say about comparisons!..."

Everybody has one?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...something like that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...I'm under-informed, but eventually stopped while I was behind
...*I* want the Mellotron w/ SirMacca's voice !...
Avatar 10:25pm
Dave Mandl:

@DLBRRN63: Make him an offer!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- tried, but it's like money means nothing to that guy!!
Avatar 10:33pm
Dave Mandl:

Don't believe the hype. How much money can he have? He's just a bass player.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- read that Bill Gates has $72billion
...that 9-figure lottery I dream of - would send my learning-curve to 90°s - it's like he won that 144 times...
Avatar 10:40pm
Droll:

In a typical technology cycle/history repeating itself fashion I downloaded a set of samples of the Mellotron tapes and loaded them into a software sampler. It sounds very authentic: many of the notes are noticeably out of tune and pretty much all the notes end with terrifying pitch and volume warbles. Good stuff!

With all due respect, DM, P-Mac is pretty much the embodiment of my ideal musician: Plays every instrument, every note on the album, and still puts the emphasis on songs, not playing. When I hear P-Mac or Adrian Belew or Prince or Stevie Wonder or Rundgren or any of the cats who play all the instruments, those albums always sound "different". (read: better)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:42pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- oh, Mandl's well aware of SirMacca's genius, of course. Even if he only did play bass.
Avatar 10:44pm
Droll:

Nonono!!! He played bass AND drums AND guitar AND keyboards AND sang AND wrote the song! P-Mac is not a "bassist", he is a "musician".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- I said 'even if' - of course that's *unimaginably* reductive.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- as in - a genius on bass *alone*...
Avatar 10:51pm
Dave Mandl:

@Droll: Yes, I know about all the other instruments. I happen to think he's a Genius musician. I was joking.
  10:52pm
sweet cheri:

fantastic show tonight dave, nothing beats a great combo than monica & dave mandl!!
Avatar 10:53pm
Dave Mandl:

@Droll: I'm a bass player, though, so I'm biased.
Avatar 10:54pm
Dave Mandl:

Merci, S.C.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...or just his singing - or just his songwriting - wunna TheeGreats in all areas
...& then there's even intangibles - like Concepts ('Sgt. Pepper' for example) - & Cultural Significance (Dylan said we should put up statues of TheBeatles)...
Avatar 10:57pm
Droll:

Indeed, Sgt. Pepper is the blueprint for prog rock!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...I mean - he's the Mozart - thee Melodic Genius of Rock.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58pm
pacific standard simon:

My perspective is closer to Andy Shernoff's: "June 1st, '67, something died and went to heaven -- I wish Sgt. Pepper NEVER taught the band to play!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01pm
pacific standard simon:

Charlie Haden is one of those musicians who make me wish for a $10000 stereo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

I love Pepper - can't call something 'overproduced' that I can listen to gazillions over decades
- but I think Revolver is better. & the White Album underrated - esp. after 2009 Remasters !
...I like Macca's story that they saw Elvis sent his gold car out on tour instead of touring himself - & Pepper was their attempt @ such a thing! Puts it in perspective ??...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- & RubberSoul the Maturity of PopWriting.
- Charlie is King, man.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03pm
Uncle Michael:

Charlie Haden and my dad...same H.S. band teacher. True.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04pm
pacific standard simon:

Your parents are the reason I'm jealous of you, Michael.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...anyhow - just one band, four guys - just 13 short albums over about seven years.
- Charlie had roots in childhood Midwest Country Family Radio - & yet was Ornette's bassist in Free Pioneering...& very forthright Politically - what a guy!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

- always interesting to me that FreeJazz players often had roots in RootsMusic...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09pm
Uncle Michael:

Charlie was a kid on the radio well before he went to Central High School in Omaha, yep.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10pm
Uncle Michael:

My parents, Simon?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...Charlie Haden's one of those people I would rather hear *talk* about Music - then hear a lot of other people *play* music...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14pm
pacific standard simon:

It would be impossible for me to speak with love or respect about my parents. You often do, or so it seems to me.
Avatar 11:14pm
Droll:

UM, I recently exposed myself to two archives of Hinky Dinky Time, I hope you weren't offended. Good show, but not enough prog!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18pm
Uncle Michael:

@Simon: Ah, I see.

@Droll: Is there ever enough prog? I mean...anywhere? I'll be upping the prog quotient slightly when I fill in on Tuesday evening for Jesse Kaminsky. I'm glad you found the non-prog non-sucky. Now, please close your raincoat.
Avatar 11:23pm
Droll:

No wonder it was so chilly and drafty in here! Thanks for the tip (no pun intended)!
And there most certainly is a standard for "too much prog": cruisetotheedge.com You will not find my prog rock loving self on any cruise ship with 5,000 proggers playing "Pull My Finger" or "Which Yes lineup is best?" for 7 straight days and nights. Full stop.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24pm
pacific standard simon:

@UM - The guy who is filling in for you on Friday has been known to play some prog. And, alas, my work schedule has arrived, and I will have to miss the live broadcast of your Tuesday fill in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24pm
Uncle Michael:

Yeah...that's a level of hell.

Remember, I said "slightly."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:25pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...Wh♂SellOut was *their* equivalent of Pepper - but also eulogizing PirateRadio & what was passing; Townshend coined term 'PowerPop' around then to distinguish themselves...but then he coughed up 'Tommy' from the Collective Unconscious...
- For a long time, the talk was Pepper was great, but what it spawned horrible (like blaming Miles Davis for the worst of the Fusion: true - & not true) - but it has company like PinkFloyd's 1st, Zombie's 'Odessey' - & many would rate Love's 'Forever Changes' as actually better-balanced than Pepper...if coming *after* it...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27pm
Uncle Michael:

Let's toss Chad and Jeremy's "The Ark" in there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28pm
Uncle Michael:

I'll have to listen to Joe's fill-in for me on the archive. If I could listen live, I'd do the show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28pm
Uncle Michael:

Dave, this is beautiful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...I'll take an Era of experiments & mistakes - to an era of focus groups & market management & stifling boredom...
Avatar 11:30pm
Droll:

RRN, Why choose? I think it's safe to say we're living in the era of focus groups' mistakes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:30pm
pacific standard simon:

The comment, about being for Wm. Turner, DOES seem appropriate. Could be for Whistler, too.
Avatar 11:31pm
Dave Mandl:

@UM: Thanks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33pm
pacific standard simon:

That could be on the station front page -- "WFMU: A focus group mistake!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...mistakes by Creative people, Droll
...somebody's profile here quotes John Cleese: 'We don't know where creativity comes from - but we know it's not our laptops.'
pss: Homepage caption: 'Our focus groups forgot what they were focusing on'...
Avatar 11:35pm
Dave Mandl:

But Focus is one of my favorite groups.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

YodelOdelOdelOdelOhOhOh !!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38pm
Uncle Michael:

Someone has to wrest Hocus Pocus from amEdeo's grip.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

UM's right btw. SweetCheri too. Great show, Msr. Mandl.
...I wanna hear a different Focus track!; that ability & energy *had* to have done other things...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41pm
Uncle Michael:

I see what you did there, Dave.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm
pacific standard simon:

Someone needs to play "Hocus Pocus" on bagpipes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42pm
Uncle Michael:

I don't wanna hear a different one. I wanna play that one too.
Avatar 11:43pm
Dave Mandl:

UM: Haha.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm
pacific standard simon:

Rhythm section: banjo and accordion.
Avatar 11:43pm
Dave Mandl:

"Focus 3" is a great record, one of my favorites. I play it from time to time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...I wanna hear 'HocusPocus' backwards...Ken might do it...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...or MaryWing...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46pm
Uncle Michael:

I'm going to listen to the remainder away from the keyboard. Thanks for the excellent show, Dave. See ya'll down the pike.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47pm
pacific standard simon:

As Vlad the Impaler might have said.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...Halloween's over pss...Hahaha!...
Avatar 11:48pm
Dave Mandl:

Night, Uncle.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

...& PetSounds was behind Pepper - but it took most of us 30 years to find out...
Avatar 11:51pm
Droll:

Low participation on my part does not indicate a lack of interest. I'm focusing on something, but I just lost focus. What's wrong with Focus? No shame in a yodel according to focus groups.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51pm
pacific standard simon:

Uncle Michael has a timer app on his iPhone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54pm
pacific standard simon:

My prog litmus test is: if you're willing to consider playing Gong in any of its incarnations, you're cool.
  Swag For Life Member 11:55pm
12539:

Isn't that title "bugs" rather than "blues?"
Avatar 11:57pm
Droll:

I sometimes gauge time by station IDs, which is confusing when listening to archives.
Speaking of the time, it looks like we're already entering next week's Final Stretch, so until then, have a fun week, yinz! Thx DM!
Avatar 11:57pm
Dave Mandl:

@12539: Yes, thanks. I'm falling asleep.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
pacific standard simon:

I dunno, but that was good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57pm
David L.B. is RRN63:

Brain Wilson saying he wanted to make Teenage Symphonies to God was the beginning of Prog - a surprisingly straight line from Phil Spector to King Crimson - w/ Brian Wilson's poor brain as the fulcrum point around which the World lost its' innocence...
  Swag For Life Member 11:58pm
12539:

Great show, Mr Mandl. Good luck catching your train.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00am
pacific standard simon:

Ain't buying it, Rabbit.

This is the end, my friend.
Avatar 12:01am
Dave Mandl:

Night, folks. Have a great week.
Avatar 12:01am
Droll:

pss, Straight line.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02am
David L.B. is RRN63:

...but focus groups said you would pss...
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