WFMU: Why Do We Only Listen to Dead People? with Carol Gimbel and Cullan Bryant: Playlist from November 3, 2024

Listener comments!
	6:01pm AskJoe: Hello viola chica.
	6:03pm tom tom the pipers son: hello all...
	6:03pm chresti: Hi music by dead people show!
	6:04pm chresti: Listening in the shower in 3-4 minutes..
	6:04pm tom tom the pipers son: bring out your dead....!
	6:06pm tom tom the pipers son: orchestra kind brings a "shaft" like quality in the song
	6:11pm tom tom the pipers son: that would probably include hubie blake
	6:14pm tom tom the pipers son: dvorak on broadway reminds me of balanchine's involvement with broadway
	6:17pm tom tom the pipers son: i believe jim in huck finn plays the fiddle... iirc
	6:20pm tom tom the pipers son: wrong but but i believe he and huck hear a fiddle on the raft
	6:22pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Carol + Cullan & all
	6:25pm ViolaChica: Good evening everyone! So happy to be with you all. It's the highlight of my week. Thank you for sharing this very special Dvorak American Quartet.
	6:26pm tom tom the pipers son: dvorak somewhat transposing bartok's interest in euro/balkan? traditional music to the america's
	6:31pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:26 ...yes. And Ravel came to the US in 1928 and backed Dvorak's mission after hanging out with Gershwin and listening to jazz!
	6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'you can close your eyes - but not your ears'... - Wynton Marsalis
	6:32pm ViolaChica: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @6:32 YES! That's exactly! Thank you for that quote.
	6:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @6:32 i actually never would think wynton marsalis could make me laugh
	🎻 6:37pm PaulRobeson1924: Warm greetings one & all!
	6:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ ViolaChica @6:31 of course black music had made inroads into the mainstream before 1928...so is the show mostly regarding black music's influence on "classical music?
	6:38pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "How Come Me Here sung by Michel Larue" by "Trad. ... Michel's voice reminded me of Odetta's
	6:39pm sinner: Fantastic show.
	🎻 6:39pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Song: "String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, Op. 96, Mvt. II... Been saying it for years. Not nearly enough Dvořák in the morning
	6:40pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:38 Yes... I will have to do another show to cover native American music, which Dvorak also said was key to the voice of an American music.
	6:43pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:38 But also, so much music of black composers and performers is only being really heard and performed in the last 10 years thanks to the work of many dedicated thinkers, performers and visionary people, like conductor Tali Makell, who put forward this powerful claiming of the less er known narrative of the American Quartet.
	6:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ ViolaChica @6:40 i think you can kind of look at harry partch as being an inheritor of dvorak's legacy, although not sure where partch ethnomusicology interests lied
	6:44pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:44 that's a very interesting point
	6:45pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ ViolaChica @6:43 the "discovery" of julius eastman's work has probably opened doors
	6:46pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:45 I'd have to look into that to really know...
	🎻 6:47pm PaulRobeson1924: “Did you sense me?”
	6:53pm ViolaChica: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:47 ...help me out...I didn't get the reference...maybe I'm too entranced in the music :)
	6:55pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Ride On King Jesus" by "In HIS Presence Gospel Ch... this had a pretty wild polyphony that made me think of la monte young in vocal form
	6:56pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:55 oh wow...ok tom tom that's out...in a good way...but out :)))))
	🎻 6:58pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ ViolaChica @6:53 That is probably for the best! I heard it on Mr.Ken’s show. It has to do with the Almighty and the radio
	6:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:55 not in terms of rhythms but of tones
	🎻 6:59pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Song: "Ride On King Jesus" by "In HIS Presence Gospel Ch... “Music is the secret key”
	7:02pm tom tom the pipers son: there's also cecil taylor...jazz or avant gardist/classical...?
	7:04pm yippie: on friday i bought 9 cds from carol at the wfmu record fair
	7:06pm tom tom the pipers son: c an't think fiddle and not think henry flynt
	7:07pm ViolaChica: ↳ yippie @7:04 AHHH! YES! A rousing and joyous Hello!!!
	7:08pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major" by "B... CLOSE- miced... interesting choice
	7:08pm tom tom the pipers son: @ carol...did you get to work with kendraplex at record fair...i mentioned to her last week where you were going to be ...an she said i love that carol gimble
	7:09pm carrahlee: Cullan on Mama's account! Mention this Franklin is all open strings scordatura. 😊
	7:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major" by "B... i am digging this franklin...it's bach-y and folk-y
	🎻 7:09pm Listener Robert: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:08 Yeah, not a favorite but very INTERESTING!
	7:10pm carrahlee: Amazing provocative show. Carol kills it again!
	7:10pm yippie: HELLO！！！
	🎻 7:12pm AMYGDALA: ↳ Song: "Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major" by "B... This is nice - ol' Ben sure was multi-faceted! Many thanks for the intro. to his work(s)!
	7:12pm chresti: Very nice with my afternoon coffee
	7:14pm TDK60: ↳ chresti @7:12 It's too late for me to have coffee. Sigh....
	🎻 7:14pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ carrahlee @7:10 Kill Kill Kill for peace
	7:15pm SeanG: it's all about the Benjamins
	7:17pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Bangin' show tonight.
	7:18pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:08 That's so sweet. I didn't see her! I will I am sure, soon.
	7:19pm ViolaChica: ↳ Listener Robert @7:09 It got mixed reviews among the crowd it seems. Ben tried ;)
	7:20pm TDK60: ↳ TDK60 @7:14 It'll have to be herbal tea. Hola chresti \\//
	7:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ ViolaChica @7:19 it seems he fared better than Albert Einstein though!
	7:22pm ViolaChica: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @7:17 Oh man! Thanks! This one is so close to my heart.
	7:22pm carrahlee: This show is killing it!
	7:23pm ViolaChica: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:21 Oh yeah? I haven't heard Einstein's compositions...or did you mean his violin playing...not sure if I want to hear it. Interesting it must be though. Certainly served him as an outlet.
	7:23pm tom tom the pipers son: barber...?
	7:25pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:23 George Walker Lyric for Strings - very much like Barber Adagio. lived in Montclair, NJ
	7:25pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:23 Also, this was written originally for string quartet, just like Barber's Adagio
	7:26pm tom tom the pipers son: posted before it came up on playlist oh thx
	7:27pm coelacanth∅: ↳ ViolaChica @7:23 that's what i mean! ...apparently he was a creative and insightful violinist, but it was so far on the back burner... i've never heard his playing.
	7:28pm coelacanth∅: (i don't know if he ever composed anything)
	7:29pm ViolaChica: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:27 Oh great. So I am getting you then! Well, if we find some of his playing we'll air it. He is our show mascot.
	7:29pm tom tom the pipers son: to me, i feel barber and copeland analogies to regionalism in painting ...thomas hart benton etc...and unfortunately reflections of some reactionary threads in america
	🎻 7:30pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:14 blogfiles.wfmu.org...
	7:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:29 Often very much feel Modernism in Musics analogous to Modernism in Visual Arts.
	7:32pm chresti: TDK60\\// happy hour here
	7:33pm chresti: Or is it high tea?
	7:33pm ViolaChica: ↳ chresti @7:32 perfect timing. Goes with this Ellington vibe
	7:33pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:29 this reactionary thread in sorts of "regionalism" mostly represented by white artists...in the hands of a black artist the "style" may mean something different
	7:34pm chresti: Indeed! @violachica
	7:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:31 yeah minimal-isms...etc
	7:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:33 Well - Fascists often go for a cheap faux NeoClassicism. Some people get that Good Art doesn't always go with the sofa ...& some people never will... I never associated Copeland with anything retograde ...but no doubt it's been tried...
	7:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:36 ...Cop*land...
	7:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Nutcracker Suite – 1960 TV Promo for Columbia Rec... ellington in the 60's... red hot....most likely the band touring the world and expanding ellingtonan et al minds and souls
	7:40pm ViolaChica: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:39 ...and now we have it....the conversation at hand. Tom tom mentioned what this show is about. THIS is what it is about. Changing the narrative to tell the T R U T H
	7:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:36 yes funny...if i look at copeland through one lens i see him as a regionalist but through a political lens, don't see him as reactionary
	🎻 7:43pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:36 I’m always curious. I’m wondering How would you define fascism? Fascism in America?
	7:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:42 ...Robert Frost ? A very U.S. American thing...
	7:46pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:44 right...that's a parallel to copeland
	7:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:43 Well - who was it said it'll come to the USA with a smile ...a Bible ? & a Coke ?...
	🎻 7:46pm PaulRobeson1924: Fascism symbolically is repsented by a bundle of sticks bound tightly to a larger thicker central stick or pillar. That central pillar in the bundle represents anti-intellectualism.
	🎻 7:47pm PaulRobeson1924: Now, i’m curious, what do those other sticks represent?
	7:48pm carrahlee: Lol Minutemen have 33 tracks on half a CD
	7:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:46 - literally to Fasten together. The Celts loved Spirals - the Romans marched in Straight Lines. Was ever thus... The irony that the truly Free are less inclined to unite & maintain their Liberty.
	7:50pm ViolaChica: ↳ carrahlee @7:48 They weren't solo violin tracks!
	7:52pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:49 rome also founded on romulus and remus and fratricide
	7:53pm tom tom the pipers son: the roman road leads to decartes and we are still on that road
	7:53pm tom tom the pipers son: descartes
	🎻 7:54pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:46 Paul Robeson wrote a succinct definition of Fascism in America. His definition is not to be found on the Internet. In his own words In
	7:54pm headcleaner: Delightful this is
	7:55pm ViolaChica: ↳ headcleaner @7:54 Agreed. The composition of a teenager!? Amazing!
	7:56pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks carol and cullan in absentia
	7:56pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:56 thank you tom tom! always happy you are here!
	🎻 7:58pm AMYGDALA: Terrific show Carol - many thanks!
	7:58pm Hunterian: Thanks DJ CG
	7:59pm chresti: Thanks Violachica!
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJs CGCBs ~
	8:00pm coelacanth∅: Thank you Carol!
	🎻 8:00pm PaulRobeson1924: Some of the smaller sticks include- conformity, emphasis on obedience to an authority, stereotypical thinking, racism, militarism/military worship, prejudice generally… these are my own words. & there are other sticks in the bundle
	🎻 8:00pm PaulRobeson1924: Thank youuuu. VG +
	11:52am ViolaChica: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:49 Yes, please and THANK YOU! This is SO true and a succinct way of putting it. It is how cultures are undervalued and lost around the world.
	3:19am tom tom the pipers son: looked some things up...harry partch's interest were in ancient greek music theater, noh theater music, african music, some others, but not african american music.....so he can't really be considered in the lineage of dvorak i think ride on king jesus is an amazing piece of music and makes an interesting comparison with la monte young and marian zazeela's vocal pieces though they are based upon indian examples... www.youtube.com...

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November 3, 2024: Change the Textbook, Change the Future: an American Portrait

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Bob Marley and The Chineke! Orchestra	Exodus	Bob Marley with the Chineke! Orchestra	Island Records	2022
Trad. African American Spiritual	Oh, What a Beautiful City	Sonny Terry: Harmonica and Vocal Solos	Folkways Records	1956		0:24:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Antonín Dvořák	String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, Op. 96, Mvt. I Allegro Non Troppo	Alban Berg Quartett Live	Parlophone Records Limited	1991		0:29:45 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Trad. African American Spiritual	How Come Me Here sung by Michel Larue	Songs of the American Negro Slaves	Folkways Records	1960		0:37:05 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Antonín Dvořák	String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, Op. 96, Mvt. II Lento	Alban Berg Quartett Live	Parlophone Records Limited	1991		0:37:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
In HIS Presence Gospel Choir	Ride On King Jesus	Live				0:54:07 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Antonín Dvořák	String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, Op. 96, Mvt. III Molto vivace	Alban Berg Quartett Live	Parlophone Records Limited	1991		0:54:09 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Marie Knight	Gospel Train "Gospel Train" by "Marie Knight"	Gospel Train: Classics From the Golden Age		2017		0:54:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Antonín Dvořák	String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, Op. 96, Mvt. IV Vivace ma non troppo	Alban Berg Quartett Live	Parlophone Records Limited	1991		0:57:43 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Benjamin Franklin / Kohon String Quartet	Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major	The Early String Quartet in the USA	Vox	1992		1:06:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Coleridge-Taylor Perkinson / Amadi Azikiwe	Blues Forms	Live in Jacksonville		2011		1:15:28 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Chineke! Orchestra	George Walker: Lyric For Strings	Live at BBC Proms		2017	Cond. Kevin John Edusei	1:24:13 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Florence Price	Ethiopia's Shadow in America - II. His Resignation and Faith	Chineke! Orchestra: Florence Price	Universal Music Operations Limited	2023		1:28:56 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Duke Ellington	Nutcracker Suite – 1960 TV Promo for Columbia Records			1960		1:31:33 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Duke Ellington and His Orchestra	Arabesque Cookie	Duke Ellington: Three Suites	Columbia Jazz Masterpieces	1960		1:36:33 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Ebun Oguntola / Johnny Gandelsman	"Reflections", for violin	This Is America: An Anthology 2020-2021	In A Circle Records	2022		1:50:34 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:01pm AskJoe: Hello viola chica.
	6:03pm tom tom the pipers son: hello all...
	6:03pm chresti: Hi music by dead people show!
	6:04pm chresti: Listening in the shower in 3-4 minutes..
	6:04pm tom tom the pipers son: bring out your dead....!
	6:06pm tom tom the pipers son: orchestra kind brings a "shaft" like quality in the song
	6:11pm tom tom the pipers son: that would probably include hubie blake
	6:14pm tom tom the pipers son: dvorak on broadway reminds me of balanchine's involvement with broadway
	6:17pm tom tom the pipers son: i believe jim in huck finn plays the fiddle... iirc
	6:20pm tom tom the pipers son: wrong but but i believe he and huck hear a fiddle on the raft
	6:22pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Carol + Cullan & all
	6:25pm ViolaChica: Good evening everyone! So happy to be with you all. It's the highlight of my week. Thank you for sharing this very special Dvorak American Quartet.
	6:26pm tom tom the pipers son: dvorak somewhat transposing bartok's interest in euro/balkan? traditional music to the america's
	6:31pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:26 ...yes. And Ravel came to the US in 1928 and backed Dvorak's mission after hanging out with Gershwin and listening to jazz!
	6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...'you can close your eyes - but not your ears'... - Wynton Marsalis
	6:32pm ViolaChica: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @6:32 YES! That's exactly! Thank you for that quote.
	6:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @6:32 i actually never would think wynton marsalis could make me laugh
	🎻 6:37pm PaulRobeson1924: Warm greetings one & all!
	6:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ ViolaChica @6:31 of course black music had made inroads into the mainstream before 1928...so is the show mostly regarding black music's influence on "classical music?
	6:38pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "How Come Me Here sung by Michel Larue" by "Trad. ... Michel's voice reminded me of Odetta's
	6:39pm sinner: Fantastic show.
	🎻 6:39pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Song: "String Quartet No. 12 in F Major, Op. 96, Mvt. II... Been saying it for years. Not nearly enough Dvořák in the morning
	6:40pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:38 Yes... I will have to do another show to cover native American music, which Dvorak also said was key to the voice of an American music.
	6:43pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:38 But also, so much music of black composers and performers is only being really heard and performed in the last 10 years thanks to the work of many dedicated thinkers, performers and visionary people, like conductor Tali Makell, who put forward this powerful claiming of the less er known narrative of the American Quartet.
	6:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ ViolaChica @6:40 i think you can kind of look at harry partch as being an inheritor of dvorak's legacy, although not sure where partch ethnomusicology interests lied
	6:44pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:44 that's a very interesting point
	6:45pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ ViolaChica @6:43 the "discovery" of julius eastman's work has probably opened doors
	6:46pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:45 I'd have to look into that to really know...
	🎻 6:47pm PaulRobeson1924: “Did you sense me?”
	6:53pm ViolaChica: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:47 ...help me out...I didn't get the reference...maybe I'm too entranced in the music :)
	6:55pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Ride On King Jesus" by "In HIS Presence Gospel Ch... this had a pretty wild polyphony that made me think of la monte young in vocal form
	6:56pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:55 oh wow...ok tom tom that's out...in a good way...but out :)))))
	🎻 6:58pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ ViolaChica @6:53 That is probably for the best! I heard it on Mr.Ken’s show. It has to do with the Almighty and the radio
	6:58pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:55 not in terms of rhythms but of tones
	🎻 6:59pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Song: "Ride On King Jesus" by "In HIS Presence Gospel Ch... “Music is the secret key”
	7:02pm tom tom the pipers son: there's also cecil taylor...jazz or avant gardist/classical...?
	7:04pm yippie: on friday i bought 9 cds from carol at the wfmu record fair
	7:06pm tom tom the pipers son: c an't think fiddle and not think henry flynt
	7:07pm ViolaChica: ↳ yippie @7:04 AHHH! YES! A rousing and joyous Hello!!!
	7:08pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major" by "B... CLOSE- miced... interesting choice
	7:08pm tom tom the pipers son: @ carol...did you get to work with kendraplex at record fair...i mentioned to her last week where you were going to be ...an she said i love that carol gimble
	7:09pm carrahlee: Cullan on Mama's account! Mention this Franklin is all open strings scordatura. 😊
	7:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major" by "B... i am digging this franklin...it's bach-y and folk-y
	🎻 7:09pm Listener Robert: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:08 Yeah, not a favorite but very INTERESTING!
	7:10pm carrahlee: Amazing provocative show. Carol kills it again!
	7:10pm yippie: HELLO！！！
	🎻 7:12pm AMYGDALA: ↳ Song: "Quartet for 3 Violins and Cello in F Major" by "B... This is nice - ol' Ben sure was multi-faceted! Many thanks for the intro. to his work(s)!
	7:12pm chresti: Very nice with my afternoon coffee
	7:14pm TDK60: ↳ chresti @7:12 It's too late for me to have coffee. Sigh....
	🎻 7:14pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ carrahlee @7:10 Kill Kill Kill for peace
	7:15pm SeanG: it's all about the Benjamins
	7:17pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Bangin' show tonight.
	7:18pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:08 That's so sweet. I didn't see her! I will I am sure, soon.
	7:19pm ViolaChica: ↳ Listener Robert @7:09 It got mixed reviews among the crowd it seems. Ben tried ;)
	7:20pm TDK60: ↳ TDK60 @7:14 It'll have to be herbal tea. Hola chresti \\//
	7:21pm coelacanth∅: ↳ ViolaChica @7:19 it seems he fared better than Albert Einstein though!
	7:22pm ViolaChica: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @7:17 Oh man! Thanks! This one is so close to my heart.
	7:22pm carrahlee: This show is killing it!
	7:23pm ViolaChica: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:21 Oh yeah? I haven't heard Einstein's compositions...or did you mean his violin playing...not sure if I want to hear it. Interesting it must be though. Certainly served him as an outlet.
	7:23pm tom tom the pipers son: barber...?
	7:25pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:23 George Walker Lyric for Strings - very much like Barber Adagio. lived in Montclair, NJ
	7:25pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:23 Also, this was written originally for string quartet, just like Barber's Adagio
	7:26pm tom tom the pipers son: posted before it came up on playlist oh thx
	7:27pm coelacanth∅: ↳ ViolaChica @7:23 that's what i mean! ...apparently he was a creative and insightful violinist, but it was so far on the back burner... i've never heard his playing.
	7:28pm coelacanth∅: (i don't know if he ever composed anything)
	7:29pm ViolaChica: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:27 Oh great. So I am getting you then! Well, if we find some of his playing we'll air it. He is our show mascot.
	7:29pm tom tom the pipers son: to me, i feel barber and copeland analogies to regionalism in painting ...thomas hart benton etc...and unfortunately reflections of some reactionary threads in america
	🎻 7:30pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:14 blogfiles.wfmu.org...
	7:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:29 Often very much feel Modernism in Musics analogous to Modernism in Visual Arts.
	7:32pm chresti: TDK60\\// happy hour here
	7:33pm chresti: Or is it high tea?
	7:33pm ViolaChica: ↳ chresti @7:32 perfect timing. Goes with this Ellington vibe
	7:33pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:29 this reactionary thread in sorts of "regionalism" mostly represented by white artists...in the hands of a black artist the "style" may mean something different
	7:34pm chresti: Indeed! @violachica
	7:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:31 yeah minimal-isms...etc
	7:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:33 Well - Fascists often go for a cheap faux NeoClassicism. Some people get that Good Art doesn't always go with the sofa ...& some people never will... I never associated Copeland with anything retograde ...but no doubt it's been tried...
	7:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:36 ...Cop*land...
	7:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Nutcracker Suite – 1960 TV Promo for Columbia Rec... ellington in the 60's... red hot....most likely the band touring the world and expanding ellingtonan et al minds and souls
	7:40pm ViolaChica: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:39 ...and now we have it....the conversation at hand. Tom tom mentioned what this show is about. THIS is what it is about. Changing the narrative to tell the T R U T H
	7:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:36 yes funny...if i look at copeland through one lens i see him as a regionalist but through a political lens, don't see him as reactionary
	🎻 7:43pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:36 I’m always curious. I’m wondering How would you define fascism? Fascism in America?
	7:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:42 ...Robert Frost ? A very U.S. American thing...
	7:46pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:44 right...that's a parallel to copeland
	7:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:43 Well - who was it said it'll come to the USA with a smile ...a Bible ? & a Coke ?...
	🎻 7:46pm PaulRobeson1924: Fascism symbolically is repsented by a bundle of sticks bound tightly to a larger thicker central stick or pillar. That central pillar in the bundle represents anti-intellectualism.
	🎻 7:47pm PaulRobeson1924: Now, i’m curious, what do those other sticks represent?
	7:48pm carrahlee: Lol Minutemen have 33 tracks on half a CD
	7:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:46 - literally to Fasten together. The Celts loved Spirals - the Romans marched in Straight Lines. Was ever thus... The irony that the truly Free are less inclined to unite & maintain their Liberty.
	7:50pm ViolaChica: ↳ carrahlee @7:48 They weren't solo violin tracks!
	7:52pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:49 rome also founded on romulus and remus and fratricide
	7:53pm tom tom the pipers son: the roman road leads to decartes and we are still on that road
	7:53pm tom tom the pipers son: descartes
	🎻 7:54pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @7:46 Paul Robeson wrote a succinct definition of Fascism in America. His definition is not to be found on the Internet. In his own words In
	7:54pm headcleaner: Delightful this is
	7:55pm ViolaChica: ↳ headcleaner @7:54 Agreed. The composition of a teenager!? Amazing!
	7:56pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks carol and cullan in absentia
	7:56pm ViolaChica: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:56 thank you tom tom! always happy you are here!
	🎻 7:58pm AMYGDALA: Terrific show Carol - many thanks!
	7:58pm Hunterian: Thanks DJ CG
	7:59pm chresti: Thanks Violachica!
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJs CGCBs ~
	8:00pm coelacanth∅: Thank you Carol!
	🎻 8:00pm PaulRobeson1924: Some of the smaller sticks include- conformity, emphasis on obedience to an authority, stereotypical thinking, racism, militarism/military worship, prejudice generally… these are my own words. & there are other sticks in the bundle
	🎻 8:00pm PaulRobeson1924: Thank youuuu. VG +
	11:52am ViolaChica: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:49 Yes, please and THANK YOU! This is SO true and a succinct way of putting it. It is how cultures are undervalued and lost around the world.
	3:19am tom tom the pipers son: looked some things up...harry partch's interest were in ancient greek music theater, noh theater music, african music, some others, but not african american music.....so he can't really be considered in the lineage of dvorak i think ride on king jesus is an amazing piece of music and makes an interesting comparison with la monte young and marian zazeela's vocal pieces though they are based upon indian examples... www.youtube.com...

Why Do We Only Listen to Dead People? with Carol Gimbel and Cullan Bryant: Playlist from November 3, 2024

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