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"I listened yesterday. It's no reflection on you but I could'nt see where you were going or what you were going for. This early seventies thing did'nt get noticed the first time and you talk about friends of like Dealney and Bonnie who had records out like we're supposed to remember who they are. Then you play this long winded free jazz stuff that really grates on my nerves. And that noise without a beat and sounds like someones being pinched. Then you play a reggae song, I think you called it Dub, to what, be cool? You seem to really fetishize the whole folk thing too which is obnoxious to us who don't even care. I liked it when you played that punk song though. I like Joe Belock a lot." (Visit homepage.)

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Favoriting October 11, 2024: SPECIAL GUEST: DON HUNERBERG
Today we explore the fascinating double life of Don Hunerberg. He was chief engineer at Plaza Sound @ Radio City Music Hall, from 1976 until its closure in the late 80s. During that time he engineered the first albums from The Ramones, Blondie, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Sonic Youth, Ace Frehley, and worked with Branca, ESG, Liquid Liquid, Live Skull, Zorn, Alvin Lucier and many more. All through those years, and into the 2000s, his other job was to record the music for the yearly Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. Today we get to hear the story of a true New York hero.

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RAMONES  53rd and third   Favoriting 0:06:49 (Pop-up)
RAMONES  beat on the brat   Favoriting 0:08:41 (Pop-up)
blondie  rip her to shreads   Favoriting 0:11:03 (Pop-up)
IMA  beat street   Favoriting 0:14:24 (Pop-up)
Richard Hell and the Voidoids  blank generation   Favoriting 1:03:33 (Pop-up)
ace frehley  new york groove   Favoriting 1:06:13 (Pop-up)
don hunerburg & andy blinx  just another asshole cut 3   Favoriting 1:09:24 (Pop-up)
sonic youth  the good and the bad   Favoriting 1:36:18 (Pop-up)
esg  the beat   Favoriting 1:44:06 (Pop-up)
IMA  blurb   Favoriting 2:20:47 (Pop-up)
liquid liquid  cavern   Favoriting 2:25:04 (Pop-up)
Manny Oquendo y Libre  little sunflower   Favoriting 2:30:12 (Pop-up)
scott johnson  john somebody   Favoriting 2:37:00 (Pop-up)
live skull  a1   Favoriting 2:42:36 (Pop-up)
heart attack  society   Favoriting 2:44:43 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

  👻 9:03am
Mike H:

Say yes… to jazz
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UFOspecialist:

I wonder if John is running late again...
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Karl:

Well, yes, then
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning. How's come you don't hear too much about jazz karaoke? Are the Jazz Police trying to keep a lid on it?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Woo:

Hello?
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:05am
Bobby:

Made it in time
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ Good ♀︎Friday FMUvianz ~
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Karl:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @9:04
Well there was that "Calloway Incident" where an outbreak of scatting let to a widespread panic-shoo-bee-do-bee-dah-DAH
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Marley P. Dogg:

Happy Friday Don and JA’ll
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Karl:

(I think that was traced back to a jazz karaoke night)
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common:

JA, all
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Handy Haversack:

JA. J'All.

What winston said!
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Woo:

↳ Song: "53rd and third" by "RAMONES"
the one they never pick
  9:08am
Panther:

RAMONES!!
  9:08am
Patty D:

Hardcore jazz
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Megaroni:

Rockaway vibe coming in
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Spikey BXL:

↳ Song: "beat on the brat" by "RAMONES"
BRAT summer is over
  9:10am
Panther:

MORE RAMONES!!!! YEEEEEEES!! All day.
  9:10am
Honest Bernardo in Argentina:

Not that I am anti jazz or anything but this is a pleasant surprise
  👻 9:12am
Mike H:

As a recovering copy editor it pleases me to see RAMONES in all caps as intended
  9:12am
Panther:

Ramones add nutrients to breakfast
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luka:

(yeah)
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Marley P. Dogg:

↳ Handy Haversack @9:08
Did a double take at the new avatar!
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Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

↳ Song: "beat on the brat" by "RAMONES"
Expanding the horizons of jazz since 2024. Good morning JA and everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14am
Crownless Gander:

What is going on here? Good morning.
  9:15am
Panther:

Deb Harry and Joey Ramone: America’s Couple
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:15am
Listener Bryan (the Professor):

Looking fwd to this, even though I have to dip in and out for meetings.
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dave wuz here:

saw the dee dee era ramones 4x. i have had a blessed life and a fake ID
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:18am
Listener Bryan (the Professor):

A descent into Richard Hell? We can only hope so.
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Triple G:

Hey hey JA, Don, and audience member Pidge
  9:20am
Rednex:

Hopefully this new populist format allows time for some Cotton Eyed Joe
  9:23am
Honest Bernardo in Argentina:

God damn I’d love to hear garbage men for a 1/2 hour !! This guy was paving the way for Bryce 😂 get him on the air Ken!!!!
  9:26am
bobob plasticland drumr:

Hey J A
  9:28am
Hugo (NL):

@ja Was that the institute in the hague?
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:28am
chris_in_space:

This interview is great. Good to be here with y'all listeners and @JA.
  9:30am
Nick F:

This interview is amazing. Morning everyone and JA.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...turning this way up to hear...
  Swag For Life Member 9:39am
MK:

So glad I have the day off so I can listen to this fascinating conversation. I love hearing the history of music.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:44am
Listener Bryan (the Professor):

Love hearing this.
  9:50am
Peter in Tappan:

Loving this convo
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paddy in matawan:

Thoroughly enjoying this. Very inspiring!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:55am
San Pedro Girl:

Good morning John and all! I am loving this interview.
I hope Don will come back to discuss his work with John Cale.
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Bobby:

Love it
  10:04am
Listener Bryan (the Professor):

Richard Hellraiser!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...sound like Hendrix
...well let's see
...tune down to Eflat
...string upsidedown so your pickups are misaligned
...have all your amps & pedals artisan engineered by the actual makers
...apprentice in Soul & R&B bands for several years
...um ...this could take a while...
  👻 10:04am
Mike H:

Fascinating interview!
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Karl:

↳ Song: "blank generation" by "Richard Hell and the Voidoids"
Can I get the court reporter to write down literally everything Hunerberg says about the guitar on this track?
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Karl:

↳ Song: "new york groove" by "ace frehley"
Oh wow
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paddy in matawan:

LGM!!!
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∫ydniuß:

somewhere Glen is smiling
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common:

↳ Song: "new york groove" by "ace frehley"
yay! ace!
  10:08am
pp:

this angle is always fascinating, remember listening to an interview with Greg Calbi
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "new york groove" by "ace frehley"
Pissed off the others when this was the Hit. Appreciate that for starters...
  10:09am
Honest Bernardo in Argentina:

Man some people have a cool ass life man. So interesting to hear about it.
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paddy in matawan:

Gratz to the Yankee fans too. As sad as that celebration looked compared to the Metsies.
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Jason from Houston:

What's going on here? Just tuning in.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Working in Studios. Other than actually Play - this is exactly what I wish I'd done with my life.
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paddy in matawan:

↳ Honest Bernardo in Argentina @10:09
I couldn't imagine getting to tell such a great story from the beginning.
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Jason from Houston:

↳ Song: "just another asshole cut 3" by "don hunerburg & a...
NICE!!!
  10:13am
Honest Bernardo in Argentina:

Amen Paddy! This guys like the Forrest Gump of cool music history

I’m just a mere mortal listening to it…
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Handy Haversack:

Get this guy to the Heavy Metal Parking Lot.
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PaulRobeson1924:

Morningggggg
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'Gear Club' is a good podcast for Studio Recording topics. & 'Music Makers & Soul Shakers' for Music insiders & Studio players generally.
  10:19am
rx "rexy" scabin:

Good morning, John and Everyone.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

This is the big deal with Peter Jackson's new 'MAL' AI technology : the computer can recognize specific tones & separate voices &/or instruments already together on tape. All of History can be Remixed for the first time.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Song: "blank generation" by "Richard Hell and the Voidoids"
Good morning John. There was this flamboyant good for nothing living in my sisters garage. I can't remember what he did, but he was asked to find some other place to freeload. He left a big pile of crap behind, so my brother-in-law asked me to help him drag it out to the street. There was a big box of all kinds of suspect chemicals(he was some kind of disgraced scientist) Apparently, he was planning on making PCP in the garage. Inside the box of leaking jars was the Blank Generation 45's by Richard Hell and the Voidoids

How I acquired lots of my record has an amusing back story, but this one takes the cake.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @10:26
...would you tho. Take that cake...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @10:26
...wonder if he got around to getting that PCP out into society...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Hullo Cleveland !
...we are Some Kind of Disgraced Scientist !
...reach under your chairs ...you get PCP - & *you* get PCP...
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:29
Like I said, we put it on the curb. Which was a potential disaster waiting to happen...
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Enflod:

Who's being interviewed?
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Enflod:

nm
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John Allen:

↳ Enflod @10:35
Don Hunerburg
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herb.nyc:

↳ Enflod @10:35
good question. at the 10am mic break john said all the right things, except the guest's name. and it's not overly hyped on the homepage. but it's DON HUNERBERG, a name i've never heard. but really fascinating talk. great questions. great answers.
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Charles in Chicago:

hi everyone. i went out for breakfast and missed ace's "new york groove" which always just cracks me up. are these all tracks that Hünerberg produced/engineered?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Srsly tho. No degrees of separation between Macy's Parade & NoWave. & I love being informed of Technical aspects of the Musics ...of which I am utterly ignorant.
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Charles in Chicago:

(sonic youth just made my cat leave the room. i guess she thinks it's more bad than good)
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herb.nyc:

and i looked. there's no wiki for don h. let's create one, and it'll include the link to this show.
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ herb.nyc @10:40
here's his Discogs page with a list of 122 credits www.discogs.com...
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Karl:

↳ Charles in Chicago @10:39
Maybe the cat got on a bus to downtown, gonna start a noise band
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herb.nyc:

↳ Charles in Chicago @10:41
huh? only 122? then he doesn't rate being on wfmu. gotta have at least 150!
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Audrey from Colombia:

Old school Sonic Youth, yes!
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herb.nyc:

↳ Karl @10:42
OR maybe the cat is afraid owner is gonna cook him, like they do in springfield (jd vance CONFIRMED this, in the vp debate)
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ Karl @10:42
Sonja digs jazz imgur.com...
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Karl:

↳ Song: "the beat" by "esg"
Oh wow
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common:

esg!
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ herb.nyc @10:42
a pretty impressive list of credits if you ask me. liquid liquid "optimo"! and, answering my own Q, everything we've heard so far including Ace and the RAMONES
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Jason from Houston:

↳ Karl @10:45
OHHHHHH YEAHHHHH
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Jack McGuire:

↳ Song: "the beat" by "esg"
The breadth of music the guest worked on is amazing. And the quality.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Karl @10:42
MeowWave. Here it comes.
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Enflod:

↳ John Allen @10:37
Thanks John. Great interview
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:49
Once the Sonic Youth gave way to ESG, she came back :-)
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Charles in Chicago:

I used to shop at 99 Recs all the time. Such a cool shop. It's sad what happened.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Charles in Chicago @10:53
Ah well - maybe she just wanna dance.
  👻 Swag For Life Member 10:55am
Enflod:

Terry Tolkin, another key figure in that scene and many others, worked at 99 Recs. Sadly passed away in 2022
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MK:

This conversation just keeps getting better and better.❤️
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Song: "the beat" by "esg"
I LOVE ESG!
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San Pedro Girl:

↳ Franco Twinkie @10:57
Good morning Franco!
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Franco Twinkie:

HI!
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Karl:

I am still obsessed with snare drum tuning
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Franco Twinkie:

There is a video of ESG playing live which shows exactly how ragged they were.

Like a garage band where I suspect lots of people don't have garages.
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Roberto:

↳ Franco Twinkie @10:57
Seconded!
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Roberto @11:05
Ha! We know what's good...
  11:07am
rx "rexy" scabin:

This is fabulous, but I must go destroy another shed. Thank g-d for the archives.
  👻 Swag For Life Member 11:07am
Enflod:

Judy Belushi, wife of John?!
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Franco Twinkie:

Speaking of eating, put on another record so I can go stuff something into my mouth....
  11:11am
pp:

herb.nyc. I will lend a hand with a Don Hunerberg wikipedia page. Definitely will pass the test for "notability" according to wiki gatekeeper criteria.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:09
...can't even wash dishes to make food. Won't miss this...
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:15
I know. Essential story telling!
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herb.nyc:

↳ pp @11:11
do it, pp! (i can't really help, only went to a wiki intro class and got an account, and edited one page. this was about 12 yrs ago)
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Franco Twinkie:

WOW! Crazy how things work sometimes.
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zachary:

↳ Song: "blurb" by "IMA"
Great song! I will have to check out more of IMA's catalogue.
  11:24am
Helical nofall:

Amazing show today! thank u
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ Song: "cavern" by "liquid liquid"
Here it is.
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Harry Corvair:

↳ Song: "cavern" by "liquid liquid"
How bout that??
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HyperDose:

↳ Song: "cavern" by "liquid liquid"
y.yarn.co...
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Song: "cavern" by "liquid liquid"
The seed!
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herb.nyc:

↳ Song: "cavern" by "liquid liquid"
Liquid Liquid on a bill with The Gas, on show Solid Gold
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medson:

↳ Song: "cavern" by "liquid liquid"
Wasn't this "sampled" without permission?
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Handy Haversack:

↳ herb.nyc @11:28
Sublime!
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herb.nyc:

↳ herb.nyc @11:28
and reviewed in Matter magazine
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herb.nyc:

↳ Handy Haversack @11:29
sure, Sublime can join the bill too
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ medson @11:28
White Lines, and the resulting lawsuit led to the end of 99 Records and Ed Bahlmann leaving the music biz. That's what I was referring to at 10:54 above
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ herb.nyc @11:29
Let's get some plasma (4th phase of matter) in there too.... the Plasmatics? (even though they were terrible)
  11:34am
pp:

Herb, will give it a go. Will experiment with ChatGPT to generate the Wikipedia boilerplate, which I haven't done before.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "little sunflower" by "Manny Oquendo y Libre"
Just no arguing with a Rhythm Section like this. & we note - so vividly & pristinely Recorded.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38am
Jack McGuire:

↳ Song: "john somebody" by "scott johnson"
Love this!
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∫ydniuß:

↳ Song: "john somebody" by "scott johnson"
I don’t remember eating 🍄
weird
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herb.nyc:

↳ Charles in Chicago @11:30
whoa! coincidence! i'm wearing my from-lady-on-street PLASMATICS benefit-at-bonds tee shirt, now!
  11:40am
pmcWhenever:

ah and the vocal sample is from…?
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ herb.nyc @11:40
:-)
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Karl:

↳ Song: "john somebody" by "scott johnson"
This is great
  11:41am
FletcherNYC:

This could be your theme!!
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ pmcWhenever @11:40
"John Somebody had its beginning in tape loops of speech, laughter, and crying that I made in the late 1970’s. From my source tapes, some made by simply recording one side of a telephone conversation, I chose short fragments that evoked the rhythms of dance music and rock songs, and wrote down the approximate pitches of the words." - scottjohnsoncomposer.com...
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Charles in Chicago:

↳ Karl @11:41
it's making my cat a little crazy but she's not leaving the room
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Karl:

↳ Charles in Chicago @11:42
"Why get on a bus when the noise comes right to you?"
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herb.nyc:

↳ pp @11:34
"make it so"
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herb.nyc:

↳ Song: "a1" by "live skull"
Live Skull just played recently, yes?
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Mick:

Fab show and fantastic interview - thanks John and Don!
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herb.nyc:

↳ Song: "society" by "heart attack"
i saw Jesse Malin, maybe 2 wks ago, as he was walking below union square, on crutches. 3 women were w him. it looked like a real effort for him and he was going slow. when i was near i started clapping, and said "we friends of jack rabid wish you well". he said "tell jack i say hello". go jesse!
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PaulRobeson1924:

JaZz
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "john somebody" by "scott johnson"
...& the voice reminds me of Rickie Lee Jones somehow ...which I don't exactly hate of a Friday morning...
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Franco Twinkie:

Don, you are par with Clyde Crashcup.

Amazing show!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Reminded of Kevin Shields giving exposition of making an entirely Analog version of Bloody Valentine material. Far more involved than one might imagine...
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Audrey from Colombia:

Thank you JAzz, great conversation
  11:54am
Eric B:

really great show!
thanks for devoting the whole show to this interview!
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, JA and DH!
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Bobby:

Thank you, JAZZ. I don’t know if I could go on without you
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Jack McGuire:

Great show!
  12:00pm
Gary:

Great interview. Trip down memory lane
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herb.nyc:

come on, bring jessica in for the interview.

great interview, thx mucho!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Thanks for sharing Don Hunerberg.
~ TY Always DJ JA ~
  12:02pm
P-90:

Outstanding!
Thanks, Gentlemen
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HyperDose:

↳ Song: "society" by "heart attack"
a bumpin and a thumpin!
  12:49pm
pp:

↳ herb.nyc @11:43
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_H%C3%BCnerberg

WFMU glisteners, modify as you see fit since it is dashed off rather quickly.
  3:54pm
Don Hunerberg:

↳ herb.nyc @10:40
Thank you for initiating my Wiki Page!!!
  3:59pm
Don Hunerberg:

↳ pp @12:49
Thanks! Very impressed with the page! So quickly! Much appreciated
  7:18am
Avspuk:

↳ Song: "the good and the bad" by "sonic youth"
Bits of this remind me of that muppet-metal "I can only count to 4" song
  2:41pm
Don Hunerberg:

Utrecht NL Location in 1974
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