WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 16, 2024

Listener comments!
	5:47pm spodiodi: greetings, Mark Hurst! love the WHSmith image. greetings, all. here to watch and listen
	5:54pm ultradamno: Mark! Humtonics!
	6:01pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
	6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi All!
	6:01pm Wendy del Formaggio: Mark! Everyone else!
	6:01pm Hugo (NL): Hi Mark! Techies!
	6:02pm Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:03pm Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark and rest
	6:03pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Mark's intro" I'm feeling Medieval Helmet #9 today. I'm pretty smiley, but still self-protective.
	6:04pm joe_rosevear: Hello, techies!
	6:05pm mackeral: hey folks!
	6:07pm PaulRobeson1924: HiHiHi
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:03 I'm going with helmet #5. Almost looks like it is wearing sunglasses.
	6:08pm Mark Hurst: Welcome to spodiodi, ultra, Handy, Bas, Wendy, Hugo, WtSG, Deano, joe_r, mackeral, and PaulR! Glad you're with us.
	6:09pm tim: Hi Mark and Helen! This book already sounds up my alley.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tim @6:09 Hi Tim!
	6:14pm ultradamno: Cranked up to 9, always
	6:15pm herb.nyc: Hi all, I just noticed a (new?) subway poster- We're watching out for your safety More than 15,000 security cameras are watching the subway system —Includes many images of what the cameras are seeing. Kinda ominous
	6:16pm Mark Hurst: ↳ herb.nyc @6:15 But Orwell said that Big Brother had our best interests in mind
	6:17pm TDK60: Hi Mark. It's been a while since I could be here.
	6:18pm ultradamno: Apple has commercials now where Bella Ramsey bluffs her way through an interview using AI blog.kitcast.tv...
	6:18pm Mark Hurst: ↳ TDK60 @6:17 Nice to see you again here, TDK
	6:19pm Listener Robert: I like talking to the bunny rambo DJing the Rock & Soul stream.
	6:20pm Listener Robert: And when I feel down, I do tend to pour it out to the bunny.
	6:20pm DjLorraine: Great guest, thank you Mark.
	6:21pm cosmic matrix: yo yo yo
	6:21pm herb.nyc: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:16 Oh. Orwell. Oh well.
	6:21pm ultradamno: In N. Michigan you can Windsor hum. Well, usetacould www.npr.org...
	6:21pm joe_rosevear: I'm old enough to remember using Eliza. It was creepy and mildly annoying. Af first compelling, I tired of Eliza after an initial period of fascination. It soon became apparent that Eliza was, actually, stupid.
	6:22pm herb.nyc: Hum. And Hur.
	6:23pm cosmic matrix: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:21 i remember typing that program into BASIC. lots of DATA statements. yup it was pretty ridiculous. “Please educidate!”
	6:23pm herb.nyc: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:21 Eliza is Apple related?
	6:24pm cosmic matrix: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:23 *elucidate
	6:24pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ herb.nyc @6:23 not, but there was a pretty early port in "Creative Computing" I think. ELIZA (or "Doctor") was a LISP program.
	6:24pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	6:24pm Listener Robert: I'd've guessed "Hum" to be short for humanoid.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: Welcome Robert, DjLorraine, cosmic, webham, and chresti!
	6:25pm Plus So Much More: Ubik!
	6:25pm cosmic matrix: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:25 hi mark! long-time lurker…..your program is so so so good.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Listener Robert @6:24 That's a good point - I wonder if that was part of the inspiration for the name.
	6:25pm herb.nyc: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:24 Thx. I know nothing about such
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:25 Shucks thanks, cosmic!
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:24 Back at MIT the emacs install had a "doctor" command that would bring up Eliza. Fun distraction during long coding sessions. (Maybe the command is still there?)
	6:31pm Handy Haversack: The sirens behind Helen just now were scary. "She's said too much -- swarm, swarm, swarm!"
	6:31pm Marie in Chicago: I'm glad I'm a "nobody" who is older now
	6:32pm Fredericks: Philosophize This! had a good episode about Techno-Feudalism recently.
	6:32pm Handy Haversack: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:21 There's a great bit in a David Lodge novel about what happens when Eliza interacts with a narcissistic personality -- a scene that I think has a lot to say about the direction related things have gone in since.
	6:33pm cosmic matrix: man i remember when apple computers seemed counter-culture and cool. i loved my apple IIe.
	6:33pm Fredericks: Nice to SEE you, Cosmic M.
	6:34pm Fredericks: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:32 That sounds fun.
	6:34pm cosmic matrix: ↳ Fredericks @6:33 hiya Fredricks!!
	6:34pm Handy Haversack: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:33 Got my first job at twelve in order to buy a used one.
	6:34pm mackeral: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:33 I did too, and I was peeved when Mac was all GUI
	6:35pm cosmic matrix: used to go to B. Dalton in Yonkers just to play on their Apple II+ which had a S.A.M. voice synth! i still remember the SMELL of it all.
	6:36pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good evening, Mark and techies. Been lurking for a bit.
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: Hi Peter!
	6:38pm ?: I've never heard this show but I'm really enjoying it. I'm 14 and the only teen I know who doesn't want or have a phone. I hate it.
	6:38pm cosmic matrix: mark the ghost writer!
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: ↳ @6:38 Hey welcome! I admire that choice to stay off the tech.
	6:39pm Fredericks: ↳ @6:38 Sometimes, it gets lonely in the vanguard.
	6:40pm PaulRobeson1924: Cup of hot ginger tea and a slice of Ezekiel bread, please
	6:41pm cosmic matrix: great interview for what sounds like a great book
	6:42pm ultradamno: Maybe a dissed topiary novel...they come to life to get back at the people who mocked them dev.mos.cms.futurecdn.net...
	6:43pm Marie in Chicago: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:32 I loved David Lodge's "Small World"
	6:44pm cosmic matrix: omg that picture. i didn’t even SEE the cameras at first, believe it or not. terrifying.
	6:44pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Marie in Chicago @6:43 I think this was in Small World. That or Nice Work, but I think SW.
	6:45pm tim: Thanks again for the interview, Mark! It appears that my local library does not have Hum nor Helen's other books. Purchase request here I come!
	6:46pm cosmic matrix: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:44 ok so i’m not the only one who missed them at first
	6:46pm tim: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:44 Yes, the image alone is terrifying.
	6:47pm PaulRobeson1924: The stalks only want to make sure you and the sweet treats are ok.
	6:47pm Handy Haversack: ↳ tim @6:45 The Need had been on my interest list for a while.
	6:47pm Fredericks: Sounds like Brazil (the movie) to me.
	6:48pm cosmic matrix: ugh is it happening…? i used to think they’d need to implant a chip in us but this is f*cking close enough.
	6:48pm Matt from OK: One of my favorite literature courses was a class on Utopias/Dystopias. We had to read just about everything falling into that category published up until the late 70s/1980s. I am very interested to read a contemporary interpretation on where we’re at now.
	6:48pm mackeral: ↳ Fredericks @6:47 Brazil is the best. That eye camera thingy bot that has to be batted out of the way...
	6:48pm tim: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:47 Cool! I'll seek it out.
	6:49pm mackeral: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:48 oh it's happening. I saw it in an airport too. Chicago or Zurich, can't remember
	6:49pm Fredericks: ↳ mackeral @6:48 Oh, and I still have crush on the batter.
	6:50pm mackeral: ↳ Fredericks @6:49 of course!
	6:50pm cosmic matrix: WHAT?!
	6:50pm Noir Lover: What are people going to do with all this time they save not checking out at cash registers?
	6:50pm cosmic matrix: it’s like somebody in a cardboard box pretending to be a video game
	6:50pm herb.nyc: I went to Gourmet Garage on broadway below canal, nyc. At self chk-out (grr, eliminating human labor) are banks of tv screens that show the area. You turn to avoid one but the other gets you. Fook off!
	6:51pm mackeral: ↳ Noir Lover @6:50 they'll spend their time on hold with AI assistants, as they try and un-screw up their charges
	6:51pm Matt from OK: I can’t stand the self check out system. I’ve noticed this too, how they tend to hover over and profile people. It’s basically a cop/security job. And Walmart is paying fewer people lower wages to do “surveillance work” while we perform the labor... And I really miss chatting with some of the cool, friendly cashiers like Otis and Carrie. For me, there’s no having any polite rapport with someone breathing down my neck when their only function is loss prevention. And they put a disclosure message for that same thing now, warning people their image may be used anyway they might imagine.
	6:52pm tim: Fred G Sanford had it right 50 years ago. Bring your greasy chicken wings on your flight.
	6:52pm cosmic matrix: the world is beginning to really justify my almost agoraphobic nature
	6:52pm Fredericks: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:50 Love it!
	6:52pm spodiodi: great show. thank you Mark!
	6:53pm cosmic matrix: those are the kind of connections that help us feel human
	6:54pm Noir Lover: Oh we're going to have to optimize that human connection
	6:54pm tim: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:53 Exactly!
	6:54pm mackeral: and EVERYBODY feels this way already, they just feel helpless as they are corralled along
	6:55pm sinner: How can you not love Mark Hurst.
	6:55pm TDK60: Thanks, Mark.
	6:56pm ultradamno: I'm sensing a Taxicab Confessions reboot...
	6:56pm tim: Thank you, Mark!
	6:56pm Fredericks: Panopticon cob.
	6:56pm bleubombersune: Mark Thank you
	6:56pm cosmic matrix: waaah this show makes me want to cry. but partially because i’m part of the problem…amazon prime….UGH…i’ve been using them less and less but i’m gonna make a break for it I SWEAR
	6:56pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:56pm mackeral: do the cabs PAY for this service?
	6:57pm cosmic matrix: eeew
	6:57pm Deano de los Muertos: Great show yet again, Mark
	6:57pm Fredericks: They should pay us for our data.
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: mark, you are preaching the gospel. THANK U
	6:58pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark, Helen! Mark, sickness is a sign of health in this case!
	6:58pm Noir Lover: stuck the landing mark
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: i’m gonna cancel my prime right now.
	6:58pm Sean Bikes: love you, mark
	6:58pm mackeral: thanks Mark
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: sorry for the stalks
	6:58pm spodiodi: shut up and shop, everybody
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: thanks mark
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Helen
	7:21pm joe_rosevear: Thanks everyone who replied to my post about having used Eliza. Let me explain that that was about 1980. I found and used Eliza on the networked computer system at the University of Minnesota's Institute of Technology. I was a student, and I spent time in the computer room on a DECwriter terminal doing my Fortran programming assignments.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 16, 2024

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September 16, 2024: Helen Phillips, author, "HUM"

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Today: Helen Phillips, author, “HUM”

Brooklyn-based author Helen Phillips discusses her novel HUM, just released. A city much like New York, in the near future, is bristling with surveillance cameras, addictive devices, ambient AI, and accelerating climate change. The novel tells how a mother, father, and their two kids navigate this landscape, encountering situations that sound all too familiar in our real-life dystopia.

• HUM by Helen Phillips, published by Simon & Schuster

• The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming by David Wallace-Wells (2020)

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Listener comments!
	5:47pm spodiodi: greetings, Mark Hurst! love the WHSmith image. greetings, all. here to watch and listen
	5:54pm ultradamno: Mark! Humtonics!
	6:01pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
	6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi All!
	6:01pm Wendy del Formaggio: Mark! Everyone else!
	6:01pm Hugo (NL): Hi Mark! Techies!
	6:02pm Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:03pm Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark and rest
	6:03pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Mark's intro" I'm feeling Medieval Helmet #9 today. I'm pretty smiley, but still self-protective.
	6:04pm joe_rosevear: Hello, techies!
	6:05pm mackeral: hey folks!
	6:07pm PaulRobeson1924: HiHiHi
	6:07pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:03 I'm going with helmet #5. Almost looks like it is wearing sunglasses.
	6:08pm Mark Hurst: Welcome to spodiodi, ultra, Handy, Bas, Wendy, Hugo, WtSG, Deano, joe_r, mackeral, and PaulR! Glad you're with us.
	6:09pm tim: Hi Mark and Helen! This book already sounds up my alley.
	6:09pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tim @6:09 Hi Tim!
	6:14pm ultradamno: Cranked up to 9, always
	6:15pm herb.nyc: Hi all, I just noticed a (new?) subway poster- We're watching out for your safety More than 15,000 security cameras are watching the subway system —Includes many images of what the cameras are seeing. Kinda ominous
	6:16pm Mark Hurst: ↳ herb.nyc @6:15 But Orwell said that Big Brother had our best interests in mind
	6:17pm TDK60: Hi Mark. It's been a while since I could be here.
	6:18pm ultradamno: Apple has commercials now where Bella Ramsey bluffs her way through an interview using AI blog.kitcast.tv...
	6:18pm Mark Hurst: ↳ TDK60 @6:17 Nice to see you again here, TDK
	6:19pm Listener Robert: I like talking to the bunny rambo DJing the Rock & Soul stream.
	6:20pm Listener Robert: And when I feel down, I do tend to pour it out to the bunny.
	6:20pm DjLorraine: Great guest, thank you Mark.
	6:21pm cosmic matrix: yo yo yo
	6:21pm herb.nyc: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:16 Oh. Orwell. Oh well.
	6:21pm ultradamno: In N. Michigan you can Windsor hum. Well, usetacould www.npr.org...
	6:21pm joe_rosevear: I'm old enough to remember using Eliza. It was creepy and mildly annoying. Af first compelling, I tired of Eliza after an initial period of fascination. It soon became apparent that Eliza was, actually, stupid.
	6:22pm herb.nyc: Hum. And Hur.
	6:23pm cosmic matrix: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:21 i remember typing that program into BASIC. lots of DATA statements. yup it was pretty ridiculous. “Please educidate!”
	6:23pm herb.nyc: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:21 Eliza is Apple related?
	6:24pm cosmic matrix: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:23 *elucidate
	6:24pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ herb.nyc @6:23 not, but there was a pretty early port in "Creative Computing" I think. ELIZA (or "Doctor") was a LISP program.
	6:24pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	6:24pm Listener Robert: I'd've guessed "Hum" to be short for humanoid.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: Welcome Robert, DjLorraine, cosmic, webham, and chresti!
	6:25pm Plus So Much More: Ubik!
	6:25pm cosmic matrix: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:25 hi mark! long-time lurker…..your program is so so so good.
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Listener Robert @6:24 That's a good point - I wonder if that was part of the inspiration for the name.
	6:25pm herb.nyc: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:24 Thx. I know nothing about such
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:25 Shucks thanks, cosmic!
	6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:24 Back at MIT the emacs install had a "doctor" command that would bring up Eliza. Fun distraction during long coding sessions. (Maybe the command is still there?)
	6:31pm Handy Haversack: The sirens behind Helen just now were scary. "She's said too much -- swarm, swarm, swarm!"
	6:31pm Marie in Chicago: I'm glad I'm a "nobody" who is older now
	6:32pm Fredericks: Philosophize This! had a good episode about Techno-Feudalism recently.
	6:32pm Handy Haversack: ↳ joe_rosevear @6:21 There's a great bit in a David Lodge novel about what happens when Eliza interacts with a narcissistic personality -- a scene that I think has a lot to say about the direction related things have gone in since.
	6:33pm cosmic matrix: man i remember when apple computers seemed counter-culture and cool. i loved my apple IIe.
	6:33pm Fredericks: Nice to SEE you, Cosmic M.
	6:34pm Fredericks: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:32 That sounds fun.
	6:34pm cosmic matrix: ↳ Fredericks @6:33 hiya Fredricks!!
	6:34pm Handy Haversack: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:33 Got my first job at twelve in order to buy a used one.
	6:34pm mackeral: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:33 I did too, and I was peeved when Mac was all GUI
	6:35pm cosmic matrix: used to go to B. Dalton in Yonkers just to play on their Apple II+ which had a S.A.M. voice synth! i still remember the SMELL of it all.
	6:36pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good evening, Mark and techies. Been lurking for a bit.
	6:36pm Mark Hurst: Hi Peter!
	6:38pm ?: I've never heard this show but I'm really enjoying it. I'm 14 and the only teen I know who doesn't want or have a phone. I hate it.
	6:38pm cosmic matrix: mark the ghost writer!
	6:38pm Mark Hurst: ↳ @6:38 Hey welcome! I admire that choice to stay off the tech.
	6:39pm Fredericks: ↳ @6:38 Sometimes, it gets lonely in the vanguard.
	6:40pm PaulRobeson1924: Cup of hot ginger tea and a slice of Ezekiel bread, please
	6:41pm cosmic matrix: great interview for what sounds like a great book
	6:42pm ultradamno: Maybe a dissed topiary novel...they come to life to get back at the people who mocked them dev.mos.cms.futurecdn.net...
	6:43pm Marie in Chicago: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:32 I loved David Lodge's "Small World"
	6:44pm cosmic matrix: omg that picture. i didn’t even SEE the cameras at first, believe it or not. terrifying.
	6:44pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Marie in Chicago @6:43 I think this was in Small World. That or Nice Work, but I think SW.
	6:45pm tim: Thanks again for the interview, Mark! It appears that my local library does not have Hum nor Helen's other books. Purchase request here I come!
	6:46pm cosmic matrix: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:44 ok so i’m not the only one who missed them at first
	6:46pm tim: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:44 Yes, the image alone is terrifying.
	6:47pm PaulRobeson1924: The stalks only want to make sure you and the sweet treats are ok.
	6:47pm Handy Haversack: ↳ tim @6:45 The Need had been on my interest list for a while.
	6:47pm Fredericks: Sounds like Brazil (the movie) to me.
	6:48pm cosmic matrix: ugh is it happening…? i used to think they’d need to implant a chip in us but this is f*cking close enough.
	6:48pm Matt from OK: One of my favorite literature courses was a class on Utopias/Dystopias. We had to read just about everything falling into that category published up until the late 70s/1980s. I am very interested to read a contemporary interpretation on where we’re at now.
	6:48pm mackeral: ↳ Fredericks @6:47 Brazil is the best. That eye camera thingy bot that has to be batted out of the way...
	6:48pm tim: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:47 Cool! I'll seek it out.
	6:49pm mackeral: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:48 oh it's happening. I saw it in an airport too. Chicago or Zurich, can't remember
	6:49pm Fredericks: ↳ mackeral @6:48 Oh, and I still have crush on the batter.
	6:50pm mackeral: ↳ Fredericks @6:49 of course!
	6:50pm cosmic matrix: WHAT?!
	6:50pm Noir Lover: What are people going to do with all this time they save not checking out at cash registers?
	6:50pm cosmic matrix: it’s like somebody in a cardboard box pretending to be a video game
	6:50pm herb.nyc: I went to Gourmet Garage on broadway below canal, nyc. At self chk-out (grr, eliminating human labor) are banks of tv screens that show the area. You turn to avoid one but the other gets you. Fook off!
	6:51pm mackeral: ↳ Noir Lover @6:50 they'll spend their time on hold with AI assistants, as they try and un-screw up their charges
	6:51pm Matt from OK: I can’t stand the self check out system. I’ve noticed this too, how they tend to hover over and profile people. It’s basically a cop/security job. And Walmart is paying fewer people lower wages to do “surveillance work” while we perform the labor... And I really miss chatting with some of the cool, friendly cashiers like Otis and Carrie. For me, there’s no having any polite rapport with someone breathing down my neck when their only function is loss prevention. And they put a disclosure message for that same thing now, warning people their image may be used anyway they might imagine.
	6:52pm tim: Fred G Sanford had it right 50 years ago. Bring your greasy chicken wings on your flight.
	6:52pm cosmic matrix: the world is beginning to really justify my almost agoraphobic nature
	6:52pm Fredericks: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:50 Love it!
	6:52pm spodiodi: great show. thank you Mark!
	6:53pm cosmic matrix: those are the kind of connections that help us feel human
	6:54pm Noir Lover: Oh we're going to have to optimize that human connection
	6:54pm tim: ↳ cosmic matrix @6:53 Exactly!
	6:54pm mackeral: and EVERYBODY feels this way already, they just feel helpless as they are corralled along
	6:55pm sinner: How can you not love Mark Hurst.
	6:55pm TDK60: Thanks, Mark.
	6:56pm ultradamno: I'm sensing a Taxicab Confessions reboot...
	6:56pm tim: Thank you, Mark!
	6:56pm Fredericks: Panopticon cob.
	6:56pm bleubombersune: Mark Thank you
	6:56pm cosmic matrix: waaah this show makes me want to cry. but partially because i’m part of the problem…amazon prime….UGH…i’ve been using them less and less but i’m gonna make a break for it I SWEAR
	6:56pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	6:56pm mackeral: do the cabs PAY for this service?
	6:57pm cosmic matrix: eeew
	6:57pm Deano de los Muertos: Great show yet again, Mark
	6:57pm Fredericks: They should pay us for our data.
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: mark, you are preaching the gospel. THANK U
	6:58pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark, Helen! Mark, sickness is a sign of health in this case!
	6:58pm Noir Lover: stuck the landing mark
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: i’m gonna cancel my prime right now.
	6:58pm Sean Bikes: love you, mark
	6:58pm mackeral: thanks Mark
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: sorry for the stalks
	6:58pm spodiodi: shut up and shop, everybody
	6:58pm cosmic matrix: thanks mark
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	7:00pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Helen
	7:21pm joe_rosevear: Thanks everyone who replied to my post about having used Eliza. Let me explain that that was about 1980. I found and used Eliza on the networked computer system at the University of Minnesota's Institute of Technology. I was a student, and I spent time in the computer room on a DECwriter terminal doing my Fortran programming assignments.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from September 16, 2024

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