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Favoriting February 5, 2024: Vision Pro: 40 years later, Apple turns into 1984

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Today: 40 years later, Apple turns into 1984

• The launch of Apple’s Vision Pro face jail is an inescapable sign that Apple has finally transformed into the Orwellian giant that their famous Super Bowl commercial warned about in 1984. Mark will discuss the similarities between the VR headset and the facehugging parasite from the Alien movies.

My guest-host episode of Double Dip Recess last Saturday, Feb 3

Total Trust screening at Monty Hall (43 Montgomery, Jersey City, NJ): Saturday, March 2 – Doors 7:30pm, screening starts 8pm

June 19, 2023 episode with Paris Marx: Ridiculing Apple's Vision Pro headset

"How to watch sports on the Apple Vision Pro" (Twitter/X, Alex Finn) . . . or as past Techtonic guest Brian Merchant puts it, "aka How to voluntarily exact the punishment given to the guy in Clockwork Orange upon yourself."

Tim Cook talks Augmented Reality, Steve Jobs, need for encryption at Utah Tech Tour (9 to 5 Mac, Oct 2, 2016)

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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonairstrip Onesies!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark! Techyon Drives!
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David (in London):

Evening Mark and assembled Technoids.
Avatar 6:01pm
HyperDose:

A dystopian apple a day...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Techtoniclons!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
ultradamno:

Zuckerberg reassures parents www.theonion.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Handy Haversack:

Of the commenters so far, I'm the only one in reach of the screening at Monty Hall.

Evening, ultradamno, David, HyperD, Bas!
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
  6:05pm
wenzo:

Hello hello
  6:05pm
gabriel:

how long before i kick someone in their vision pro?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
_Ike_:

The nightmarish ads for Apple Vision Pro, YIKES. Go get f***ed, Apple.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
ultradamno:

Hiya Handy!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonians!
Avatar 🤖 6:07pm
herb.nyc:

5th time that mark has hosted DOUBLE DIP? maybe by the 7th or 8th he'll get it right! (drum roll; does this remind you of an elizabeth taylor marriage joke?)
  6:07pm
Androu B.:

Evening Mark & Techtonic Platonics!

I saw the headline on Thursday's Post & noticed their diatribe at the bottom of the page suggesting Zuck was downplaying the urgency of the matter concerning FB & IG. Well, what can you expect from a guy like Zuck?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ chresti @6:06
Hope you're dry, chresti! Haven't seen Carmichael all day.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Bas NL:

Would have loved to be there..
Avatar 🤖 6:10pm
MarciB:

I saw some great memes that were anti Vision Pro today!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
chresti:

Lay it on us!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
holland oats:

god this show is frightening
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Glistener MW:

A.F.C.! Incredible guest, and incredible-sounding event -- I wish I lived close-enough to attend! Good luck with it, Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Deano de los Muertos:

I’m ready to go down the rabbit hole, Morpheus
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
paddy in matawan:

... I think you can actually see through this device. I think there is a tinted glass.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
katie somewhere:

all i see is "i poison vr" (which makes me laugh/cry every time)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Handy Haversack:

This reminds me of how I had a dream the other night that we were going to Mexico -- but the dream was only about choosing the accommodations! I woke up so mad my subconscious for wasting my time.

Re-create my office. That's beautiful, dad.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Glistener MW:

I recall hearing about (and loving) that several cafes and independent businesses in San Francisco at the time banned customers wearing the Google Glass
  6:14pm
yippie:

Now when you see a show on Broadway instead of getting a playbill you might scan a QR code to see the program 🎭
  6:15pm
gabriel:

3500 gets me pretty close to that a sparkle green krupa radio king set on reverb.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Handy Haversack:

Vision-Anti was already trademarked.
  6:16pm
gabriel:

sounds like a nightmare handy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Fuzzy:

Glassholes 2.0!
  6:16pm
SegFish:

https://www.happyproduct.com/more-page mark Osborne saw this coming. The best 6mins film in existence. called `More'
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
tim:

I’m no Einstein. And I’m no Lord Poetry but these devices sound stupid as shit and $100 unnecessary. What am I missing?
  6:17pm
Androu B.:

I felt Google would've gone in the right direction with the original concept of their Glass AR, regardless of how "dorky" anyone thought they were.
Avatar 🤖 6:17pm
MarciB:

So when does the footage of the first mugging / murder go viral? Coz there are idiots here in NYC walking around with these things on their heads in public already (note: mostly young men -oops I mean "early adopters".) Ugh.
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Saw a video of a guy getting out of a Tesla wearing a pair of them... He walked forward like he was slapping hands and hi-fiving a bunch of people that weren't there
  6:17pm
Dean:

Being anitocularcentric, I want nothing to do with any form of enhanced vision. Nor do I like ear pods. I refer to them as reverse audio colostomy bags.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
tim:

Hi Mark! Hi buddies!
  6:18pm
David (in London):

Go directly to face jail, do not pass Go, do not collect £200.
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Glistener MW:

"Face jail". I like it! Adding to my antitech vocabulary now.
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MarciB:

↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:17
Of course - that's just what we'd expect! Argh
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tim:

↳ MarciB @6:17
For real?
  6:19pm
Androu B.:

↳ Androu B. @6:17
I mean, at least those things look more dignified than the beast Google is unleashing now.
  6:19pm
Sam:

Ha! People won’t even put on a mask to save their grandma’s life (or their own). There’s no way they’re doing the face jail.
  6:19pm
hoeg:

hi, tuning in to part n+1 of "Tech dystopias we were warned about but decided to do anyway" :D
Avatar 🤖 6:19pm
MarciB:

↳ tim @6:18
Imagine - ppl get their phones stolen, imagine how valuable a $3500 pair of goggles would be! And I can imagine it will be recorded - I mean surveilled....
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melinda:

hi everyone
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Deano de los Muertos:

my new car’s computer wants to do aaaall sorts of spying on me, and I can’t help but think of Mark as I attempt to shut it off
  6:20pm
Sam:

This sounds like it would be fun for about 10 minutes.
Avatar 🤖 6:20pm
Noir Lover:

Dopamine Alex was joking right?
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Glistener MW:

Jeez; what a dope-amine.
Avatar 🤖 6:21pm
MarciB:

↳ Sam @6:19
Excellent point...and this is the same crowd that whines about vaccines having tracking devices in them...can't make this stuff up...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
tim:

↳ MarciB @6:19
Oh sure.No disagreement here. I just can’t believe there’s jackasses walking around with these on.
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ultradamno:

Watching 33 games is kind of like watching none, isn't it?
Avatar 🤖 6:22pm
Noir Lover:

Imagine if Alex tried LSD
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Glistener MW:

I'd rather watch 33 & 1/3 Naked Gun movies.
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MarciB:

↳ tim @6:21
Yes! I was shocked but there it is..plenty of dopes here in NYC...I like to think we know better...foolish me!
Avatar 🤖 6:22pm
herb.nyc:

this Finn guy should just man up - i have 33 monitors in my living room, for those 33 nba games!
  6:22pm
gabriel:

im so scared to buy a new car. ao i gave my neighbor $200 for his '03 element, put an alternator in it myself and i love it. so basic and easy to work on.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

↳ Glistener MW @6:22
Nice
  6:22pm
Sam:

It’s like being in a typical sports bar that’s wall to wall TVs
  6:23pm
hoeg:

anyone remember Strange Days
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ tim @6:21
...and they're probably watching 33 Road Runner cartoons at the same time.
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MarciB:

↳ gabriel @6:22
We have to buy a new car (our is a Mini c. 2013) and costing us too much...I'm terrified...
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coelacanth∅:

5.5 X douchier than my douche nephew that listens, constantly, to 2 podcasts at a time, each one playing 3x faster
  6:24pm
Androu B.:

Here's another parable for tonight's main subject: "The Man In The Iron Mask". Now we just have to wait and see who'll be playing the roles of the Musketeers who'll save humanity from this face-hugging beast.
  6:24pm
Sam:

Like those guys who play 10 chess games at once. Sounds super stressful.
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Folsom:

↳ gabriel @6:22
Some guy crashed into my Element, had 300k miles on it, ended up buying a new car.
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paddy in matawan:

In the video he is actually only watching like 4 games. And it seems more difficult to scroll X than he says. Seems like a joke video. Eating the breakfast seems very strange though. It is like he is eating a cartoonish sandwich.
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tim:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:23
Now I would buy one of those masks for that!
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Jim the Poet:

I do think I'd be much more handsome with a helmet on
  6:25pm
gabriel:

my friend just got an electric mini and loves it. no clue if it spies or how he paid for it tho!
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ifeelfatnsassy:

Did anyone click the link and watch the video? He has 5 games on. 33 is obvious hyperbole. There are only 30 NBA teams.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
tom tom the pipers son:

this reminds me, a quote from john kerry on the back cover of the book "are you stupid"..."in america you have the right to be stupid and you have the rihght to be disconnected to somebody else if yopu want to be"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

People watch ñfl Rëd zonë all the time, but it goes full screen for actual close to the endzone plays... I don't think having a headset of a crap ton of videos is any good
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mackeral:

yes: ridicule is important here
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
ifeelfatnsassy:

I'm no longer on X, so I can't see comments, but part of me thinks this whole thing is a bit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Glistener MW:

↳ ifeelfatnsassy @6:25
perhaps the extra three are "Hoosiers", "Semi-Pro", and "Teen Wolf"?
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tim:

↳ Jim the Poet @6:24
Jack Nicholson did look mighty handsome with a helmet in Easy Rider.
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The Butterman:

Can this device shut up my neighbors barking dog?
  6:27pm
Androu B.:

↳ mackeral @6:25
...and somewhat mandatory to an extent!
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ifeelfatnsassy:

This on the other hand... vxtwitter.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ tim @6:27
A football helmet at that!
  6:28pm
Sam:

Nobody’s going to rewatch the candles blowing out video anyway
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tim:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:28
I’m telling you what!
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MarciB:

↳ The Butterman @6:27
If only! I have to deal with 3!
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ultradamno:

↳ hoeg @6:23
You could watch that at the same time as Videodrome, eXistenZ, World On A Wire...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
The Butterman:

↳ MarciB @6:29
Ewwwwwww. Sorry to hear that.
  6:29pm
P.Welles:

Can it see through clothes?
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mackeral:

you see projected eyes? this is terrible
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
tim:

“Hey Dad! I gout your augmented reality right here!”
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paddy in matawan:

I stand corrected about the glass.
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MarciB:

this makes Meta's RayBans look harmless in comparison lol
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Webhamster Henry:

Is there an AR stream of Techtonic yet?
  6:30pm
Sam:

What if you just put on a clear plastic helmet and pretended it was a computer face jail? Save a few thousand.
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paddy in matawan:

I definitely don't want one but I damn well want to see it for myself.
  6:31pm
Androu B.:

I can already tell Mr. Finn is an avid Phillip K. Dick fan.
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Jeff Moore:

Has everyone seen this?

www.wired.com...

Seems apropos.
  6:31pm
wenzo:

“You don’t need to strap a face Jail to your face”
You should put that on a shirt Mark!
Avatar 🤖 6:32pm
Noir Lover:

Isn't the Occulus / Metaverse kind of a flop?
Avatar 🤖 6:33pm
MarciB:

I thought Apple was going for the iPhone-ish necklace that projects on your arm thingy...but maybe face jail is a step towards that...
Avatar 🤖 6:33pm
MarciB:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:31
Ugh. Of course.
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Truth
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Jim the Poet:

Will this help me get lucky?
  6:35pm
Androu B.:

Thanks, Apple, but I'll settle for the iWatch!
  6:36pm
hoeg:

see no evil, hear no evil, ...
  6:38pm
wenzo:

I’ve never heard of anyone using it NoirLover…
Avatar 🤖 6:38pm
MarciB:

well ol'Tim just wants everyone to hang out together wearing face jails, obvs!
  6:39pm
P.Welles:

strap on fetish
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Glistener MW:

To re-word a great John Waters quote, "if you go home with someone and see that they own an Apple Vision Pro... don't f*** them."
  6:40pm
yippie:

I really like Nintendo VR i have a lot of memories of those red lines
  6:40pm
gabriel:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/feb/05/isolated-indigenous-people-as-happy-as-wealthy-western-peers-study
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
dale:

stereograph images of civil war casualties - the first viewmaster.
  6:40pm
Androu B.:

Slowly but surely, Spielberg's vision of the near future in "Ready Player One" is coming true!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
mackeral:

I'll call it the Facetoilet
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

↳ yippie @6:40
My friend had one, it was pretty cool
  6:41pm
yippie:

Virtual boy
  6:41pm
zigg with two Gs:

if anyone wants a custom viewmaster

https://www.image3d.com/
  6:41pm
Frances:

we had Viewmaster back in the 1960s, hardly as immersive as binoculars, really just a personal lantern screen projector
  6:41pm
gabriel:

so you can crap in it too?
  6:41pm
Steve Del Sol:

Yes!! Nothing after the stereopticon should be LEGAL. Sell it, Mark!! It is Mark, yes?
  6:41pm
Dean:

One bad apple won't...never mind.
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herb.nyc:

tim cook has changed his tune - similar to what i saw on twitter(?), that trump's lawyers wrote that "the people deserve to vote for their candidate ..." (paraphrased) so that colorado would have him on the primary ballot. from the man (the turd) that wanted to undo the nov 2020 election! fook that!
Avatar 🤖 6:41pm
MarciB:

It could be useful for us to, say, see and feel what it's like to walk down a street in San Francisco c. 1900 (pre-earthquake) and really feel what it's like to be there. Alas, that's not what this is for.
Avatar 🤖 6:42pm
MarciB:

↳ Frances @6:41
Love those things!
  6:42pm
P-90:

It’s a ridiculous stretch to describe Viewmasters, Stereopticons, kaleidoscopes, etc as “face jails.” They’re just not.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

↳ P-90 @6:42
Yes you look through it for a short amount of time to check something out... You don't leave it on all the time
  6:43pm
Dean:

Can one wear it and envision a world without Apple, Google, FB...?
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ MarciB @6:42
My friend lent me his Viewmanster camera for our honeymoon, so we have about 8 viewmaster reels of us amidst the mountains of Skye.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
JReganK:

Lol! Still have mine
  6:44pm
Steve Del Sol:

The stereopticon pre dated the Viewmaster. It was the viewer that had single cards with two views, which the lens system joined. The Devil!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
paddy in matawan:

I love the fake nose with the glasses attached face jail disguise
  6:44pm
Sam:

Mark, I love your visceral imagery. “Face jail,” “It smells like Google in here!” Psychologically powerful!
  6:44pm
yippie:

I hope nobody flushed his file down the toilet
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
ultradamno:

Being Apple, how much will you have to pay to store your reality?
  6:44pm
choggie:

So many beta users of the dopamine helmet are gonna bust their asses trying to get up from a chair, etc.
Avatar 🤖 6:44pm
herb.nyc:

haha, the file could be in living room, kitchen... ridiculous!
  6:45pm
choggie:

....and break stuff, like with the Wi
  6:45pm
hoeg:

guess I still need to build my own dream machine
  6:46pm
yippie:

I hope they get Janet Jackson to perform at the Super Bowl this year
  6:46pm
choggie:

.....and then they rip off her top, THREE BOOBIES!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
campground:

I remember my Viewmaster. I had Yellowstone Park, an Apollo rocket launch, and some strange Spiderman story I think?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
tim:

I like the “Where’s the beef?” commercial better.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
melinda:

This sounds so old
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Deano de los Muertos:

I miss that voiceover guy
  6:47pm
P-90:

It was explicitly set in Orwell’s “1984” world
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Webhamster Henry:

That and the LBJ Daisy ad...
  6:48pm
choggie:

That bald guy dancing for Six Flags was always psychedelic for me ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
The Butterman:

Did he say, “We are white people”?
  6:48pm
Frances:

I have a viewmaster disk of Redwoods, it is like weird nostalgia for a treeless future
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
JReganK:

Don't want anything Microsoft hugging my face!
Avatar 🤖 6:49pm
herb.nyc:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:31
i just read the beginning of this. how cynical and self-serving of these companies. thanks for sharing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
dale:

wish they had called the computer the cortland or honey gold instead.
  6:49pm
choggie:

Abandon Amazon, too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Tome:

wasn't that commercial refering to IBM ? not MicroSoft ...
  6:50pm
Frances:

↳ dale @6:49
or the crab apple!
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tim:

↳ dale @6:49
I’d suggest Fuji but that’s already taken.
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JReganK:

One ring to rule them all
  6:50pm
P.Welles:

↳ Tome @6:50
thats what I thought too
  6:51pm
SegFish:

Correction : The reference wasnt Microsoft, it was IBM, mainly, aka HAL9000 in 2001 A Space Odyssey. aka the maker of the machine that counted concentration camp prisoners during WWII
  6:51pm
Danny in Poughkeepsie:

Thank you Mark. Sigh
  6:51pm
choggie:

Apple's Digital Iron Maiden for full body immersive digital torture
  6:52pm
choggie:

....someone has to lock you in before it will boot
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tim:

Oh yeah! Winston Smith gets the facejail!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
mackeral:

"taking on its language", that's key
  6:52pm
Andres:

I hope we’re going to hear some Eurythmics.
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JReganK:

The Sraight Jacket Pro
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listener 126464:

Apple was necessary in 80's/90's desktop publishing. That was a different century.
  6:52pm
Dean:

I always thought Room 101 was about a required course in architecture school.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Glistener MW:

oh god! yes!!! the rat-face cage. That John Hurt movie is absolutely chilling
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Webhamster Henry:

"Meta" had the biggest 1-day market increase in history, in case you don't want to forget other evil empires.
  6:52pm
choggie:

Oh wow..... Winston's had a rat in it, too!!
  6:53pm
Seg Fish:

100% agree with the concern. Tim Cook is collaborating with the WEF and has received marching orders thus the headset. Listen to Noah Yuval Harari, about merging the digital with the biological
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Webhamster Henry:

Steve Posts' WBAI radio show was named "Room 101" for this reason...
  6:53pm
hoeg:

Still wondering if Douglas Rushkoff actually said that Isaac came from Hagar cos I thought that was Ishmael
Avatar 🤖 6:53pm
MarciB:

I thought Microsoft was now "#1"
  6:53pm
Frances:

Room 101, good name for a bar
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
ultradamno:

From which Joe Strummer's pre-Clash band The 101ers got their name
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Tome:

.. I might have been one of the few post hippies 40 years ago to have an IBM PC !<>!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Webhamster Henry:

TL;DR Winston Smith ends up loving Big Brother.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Handy Haversack:

Do it to Julia!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Amanda:

Love those mouse sounds!!
  6:54pm
choggie:

My bully heard that 101 rat and came.running in barking!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
dale:

we have a norway rat living under our porch. i stopped feeding the birds and leaving pizza outside but he won't go away. i hate to get poison, but ....
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JReganK:

I love U! Big Brother.
  6:55pm
choggie:

Norway's have dark black eyes that stare into your very soul
  6:56pm
Androu B.:

Mark, if you're reading, I've got several back issues of Wired from the mid-00's I'm willing to part with. Let me know if you're interested.
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choggie:

...plus plague
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paddy in matawan:

Thanks Mark! G'nite all.
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Noir Lover:

How about a Vision Pro for butts? That what we deserve.
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Mister Dobalina:

Thanks Mark, insightful.
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The Butterman:

Thanks for your tremendous work, Mark!
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campground:

The difference is we're being entertained into compliance instead of tortured. I get wanting to make the connection with the Apple commercial, but it feels like Brave New World was the more prescient book.
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Tome:

WorkPerfect was the Chit !<>!
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herb.nyc:

a very sobering show, as most are. thanks, mark!
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Glistener MW:

Thanks, Mark!!!
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JReganK:

They stare into your soul before they eat your face!
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Deano de los Muertos:

Thanks Mark..terrific episode!
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Mark!

Smells like Google in here!
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
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Bas NL:

Message received. Thanks Mark!
  6:58pm
gabriel:

thanks mark, great chat all!
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Webhamster Henry:

↳ campground @6:57
Yeah teh entertained into compliance thing is a Brave New World thing. But there are so many dystopias to choose from!
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tim:

Thanks, Mark!
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dale:

↳ choggie @6:56
calling him ben doesn't make my wife happier about him.
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Androu B.:

↳ Noir Lover @6:56
😂
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P-90:

I wonder what is the electromagnetic radiation exposure to the eyes, optic nerves and cranial nerves, brain etc ?
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Tome:

For the Love of Crack !<>!
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JReganK:

Apple has the uncanny ability to sense when you're helpless.
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listener 126464:

Thanks, Mark!
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gauche knee:

Loved Room 101 bit though I also think Brave New World is the most spot on. Ready Player One novel too.
Thnx Mark!
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hoeg:

also from last week, the uk post office don't just sell stamps but are sort of community banks where you can pay bills, receive your state pension, deposit money etc so the software was correspondingly more complicated
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JReganK:

Thnx, Mark
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gauche knee:

This outdo song is hysterical choice too. 😆
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
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JReganK:

↳ hoeg @6:59
The US post office used to provide those services.
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark
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leshya:

Just got out of a heavy showing of Werckmeister harmonies and is hitting the mark
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Tome @6:50
Yes, you're right - in 1984 the monolith was IBM, not Microsoft. Microsoft took a few more years to grow into that role.
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Mark Hurst:

↳ SegFish @6:51
Yep that's correct
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