WFMU: It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 29, 2024

Listener comments!
	🤯 6:57pm Troy: Present!
	7:00pm Handy Haversack: Dave and the Complications!
	7:00pm ultradamno: Dave! Mandlotrons!
	7:01pm luka: hello
	7:01pm Coach32sm: Hasn't been too complicated lately, so complicate me tonight!!!! Lets go!!
	7:01pm common: dave. all
	🤯 7:01pm AnAnonymousParty: Good evening fellow proglodytes.
	7:01pm bleubombersune: Dave good evening Progolytes
	🤯 7:02pm G: There he is!
	7:02pm dale: hey now. welcome back. two weeks in prog timing is 3.5 weeks.
	7:02pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Dave and prog curious people.
	🤯 7:02pm HollyRT: Yayy....welcome back, DM
	7:02pm Handy Haversack: ↳ dale @7:02 Looking forward to a track in 24/7 time.
	🤯 7:03pm chresti: Hi Dave Mandl with a handl!
	🤯 7:03pm G: ↳ dale @7:02 With too many time signatures to complicate things further.
	7:04pm Soggy Donkey: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @7:02 Color me progruious
	7:04pm Handy Haversack: ↳ chresti @7:03 The prog don't work 'cause the vandls took the Mandl.
	7:04pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Dave welcome back!
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: Greetings, all. Thanks for joining me.
	7:06pm listener phat in Lincoln: Hello all.
	7:06pm dale: i like this. kinda like a sea shanty done by the guy at the lowery organ store at the mall.
	7:06pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Samba D Hiccup" by "Guy Klucevsek" Probably could use more accordion in my life
	🤯 7:06pm erictheise: welcome back. Guy Klucevsek did a phone interview with pianist Sarah Cahill about his new album on her radio show last night.
	7:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: No one holds a candl to Dave Mandl!
	7:07pm Tom from Stirling: Oh yeah, Guy Klucevsek.
	7:07pm dday: ↳ Song: "Samba D Hiccup" by "Guy Klucevsek" Evening Dave & All..Hey it's got keys & cool little buttons..it can progged out in the right hands. My Grandpa played accordion. He tried to teach me when I was bout 10 years old, but I was so small I couldn't handle it's massiveness (full size instrument)
	7:07pm Schnannhe: Klucevsek: Great stuff! In no way prog!
	🤯 7:08pm G: ↳ Schnannhe @7:07 It’s prog-adjacent-adjacent.
	7:09pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Schnannhe @7:07 Prog enough.
	7:10pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:02 Every day.
	7:11pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:10 And if it's on a piccolo trumpet? [chef's kiss]
	7:12pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Schnannhe @7:07 But very complicated.
	7:12pm dale: ↳ Song: "Italian Symphony" by "The Open Window" saw him at dia beacon doing a performance. schickele lived near woodstock i think.
	7:13pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Italian Symphony" by "The Open Window" This is great
	7:14pm Tom from Stirling: Shickele Mix
	7:14pm Dave Mandl: And hello to: Troy, Handy, ultradamno (thanks for retweets), luka, Coach, common, AnAnonymousParty, bleubombersune, G, dale, Peter, Holly, chresti, Soggy, coelacanth∅, phat, daeric, Ken, Tom, dday, Schnannhe, Chris!
	🤯 7:15pm drumbone: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:10 hey how ya doin?
	7:15pm Dave Mandl: And welcome Mr. drumbone.
	7:16pm Chris Hiatt: Anybody else going to the Mustafina show in East Williamsburg, BK tonite?
	7:16pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:15 Dave, how did the idea for reviewing that book go down with your editor?
	7:17pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:16 Someone already claimed it!
	7:17pm Coach32sm: Open window in a Church
	7:18pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:17 Ha! Well, that's OK, too, I guess. I hope you enjoy it. And if you want a copy to give away for Marathon or anything, just let me know.
	🤯 7:18pm drumbone: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:16 I'm going!!! Are you?
	7:19pm Coach32sm: yeah I think they had 2 albums
	7:19pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:18 Thanks!
	7:19pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ drumbone @7:18 Haha, I would hope you are. I'll be thar! Hey how ya doin'?
	7:20pm Coach32sm: Wakeman is touring now as al of us know anyway!!!
	7:21pm Dave Mandl: @drumbone: Break a leg. Folks, his group Mustafina is really good and you should check tham out.
	7:21pm Dave Mandl: "tham"?
	🤯 7:21pm G: Wakeman claims that he’s about to stop touring, in his late 70s. We’ll see. They all say “farewell tour” to drive sales, right?
	7:22pm dale: ↳ Song: "The Martyr" by "Wally" love this. very pop, top 40ish for prog. like ambrosia or renaissance.
	7:22pm dale: ....or kansas and styx.
	7:22pm P-90: There’s not a lot of Prog with fine fiddling, but here’s an example
	🤯 7:22pm chresti: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:04 And then the vandls were scared away when mandl raised his handl
	🤯 7:23pm G: ↳ chresti @7:22 Your rhymes are a scandl haha
	🤯 7:23pm drumbone: MUSTAFINA playing at Sleepwalk 9:00
	7:23pm Dave Mandl: This bass player is keeping it proggy.
	7:23pm dday: ↳ dale @7:22 Kansas without the harder guitars
	7:24pm P-90: Yes, the bass is full-on prog
	7:24pm dday: ↳ chresti @7:22 Will we ever hear Mandl's Messiah? Bass solo version of course :)
	7:25pm ultradamno: So more Witchita than Lawrence...
	7:25pm Dave Mandl: ↳ P-90 @7:24 Rickenbacker 4001 FTW.
	🤯 7:25pm SeaCreature: Hi what’s I miss, besides an obvious rickebacker bass?
	7:26pm P-90: Yep, anything proggy-poppy with fiddle is gonna sound like Kansas. The “Steinhardt Effect”
	7:26pm mic_a: Hello and best wishes, Dave & progolators! Dave -- I have snagged (for 'the nice price') a new-old-stock copy of the "Cassette Mythos" book you edited back in 1992! It looks to be a heady plunge back into 20th century undergroundiness.
	7:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Martyr" by "Wally" Very Gittar Gently Werps...
	7:26pm dale: mckendree spring has the fiddlesque prog feel too.
	7:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:26 weEps ...I'm in the tub...
	7:27pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ ultradamno @7:25 Maybe so, but there are whispers of Lawrence here. I mean, check out the harpsichord-ish sounds.
	🤯 7:28pm chresti: ↳ dday @7:24 I hope so!
	🤯 7:29pm Troy: Just got back from Finland a couple days ago.
	🤯 7:29pm SeaCreature: Is that Cookie Monster
	7:29pm dday: ↳ P-90 @7:26 Kansas gets a bad rap becuase so many only know Dust in the Wind (dude). There's some instrumentals that are really great by them The Spider being one I like. Sadly Steinhardt's no longer with us
	7:30pm ultradamno: ↳ SeaCreature @7:29 Fronting Minutemen!
	🤯 7:30pm SeaCreature: ↳ ultradamno @7:30 Bullseye!
	7:30pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" Cookie Monster prog!
	🤯 7:30pm drumbone: MUSTAFINA is 3 members of ALICE DONUT (for you older folk)
	7:30pm lazy pierogi: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" reminds me a lot of Le Scrawl! so very similar, even in the "vocals" lol
	🤯 7:31pm chresti: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" my head's exploding now!
	7:31pm Saltonstall: Dave- Is Man Is The Bastard a prog band after all?
	7:31pm dday: ↳ dale @7:26 In the always weird billings at The Capitol in Passaic file. McKendree Spring opening for Zappa with Beefheart on the Bong Fury Tour .
	7:31pm laurapanic: ↳ drumbone @7:30 OH MY GOD
	7:32pm dale: ↳ dday @7:31 that sounds like a great bill!
	🤯 7:32pm SeaCreature: Hmm maybe i don’t need to be sweating third dang lyrics after all?
	🤯 7:32pm DjLorraine: Hi to all
	7:33pm dday: ↳ dale @7:32 It was a cool show. High School days
	🤯 7:33pm chresti: ↳ SeaCreature @7:32 Lyrics?
	7:33pm dday: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" So how many fingers does this guy have?
	🤯 7:34pm erictheise: Seventeen fingers but one vocal cord.
	7:34pm mic_a: It's nice that they have their dog doing the vocals.
	7:34pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" Kind of "Fishy"
	🤯 7:35pm drumbone: ↳ laurapanic @7:31 it's true! AD in the house
	7:35pm dday: ↳ Tom from Stirling @7:34 I was thinking Les Claypool, but man :)
	7:36pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" I probably could use more brutal prog in my life.
	7:36pm dale: if brutalist architecture had a sound cause for effect would be it.
	7:36pm lazy pierogi: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" follow up listening: youtu.be...
	7:37pm Saltonstall: Prog Violence
	7:37pm ultradamno: I was just saying the other day there should be more geometry in math rock causeforeffect.bandcamp.com...
	🤯 7:38pm SeaCreature: ↳ chresti @7:33 I never finish recording anything except orchestral music (cuz no vocals)
	7:40pm Dave Mandl: BTW, welcome P-90, RRN63, SeaCreature, pierogi, Saltonstall, laura, Lorraine, mic_a. Sorry if I missed anyone.
	7:40pm tom tom the pipers son: brutal prog made me think of the revival of interest in brutalist architecture, is there an analogy in the reveval of interest in prog? is there an aesthetic analogy?
	7:40pm Jeff Moore: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" This interlude was remarkable! Structured like much of the metal I've heard, but with a different timbre... and where the usual scary roar would be, a sound more like when a slightly clogged sink finishes draining and there's that little sucking sound.
	7:41pm Dave Mandl: ↳ mic_a @7:34 That's very funny.
	🤯 7:41pm SeaCreature: Wild and Zappa- esque kinda
	7:41pm Dave Mandl: Hey Jeff M! And tom tom!
	7:41pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Puppett of the Seasons" by "Horacee Arnold" This is definitely the rowdier side of jazz fusion.
	🤯 7:42pm chresti: ↳ Jeff Moore @7:40 Like a drain burp.
	7:42pm listener phat in Lincoln: Talk about
	🤯 7:42pm SeaCreature: Bit of Mikal urbaniak in that last one too
	🤯 7:43pm drumbone: Say WHAT???
	7:43pm Derbs: This sounded like Jan Hammer
	7:43pm dday: ↳ SeaCreature @7:41 An interesting Zappa doc. Worth the watch: www.imdb.com...
	🤯 7:44pm SeaCreature: ↳ dday @7:43 Thanks I need to watch that
	7:44pm Jeff Moore: ↳ chresti @7:42 Yeah, that!
	7:45pm Jeff Moore: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:41 Hey Dave!
	7:45pm P-90: The Nice! If one HAS to stick a pin in the map of time and space to try to indicate the “first” prog band, they’re it
	7:45pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Derbs @7:43 It was Jan Hammer!
	7:45pm Coach32sm: The only way I can listen to classical music!!!
	🤯 7:46pm Troy: ↳ Song: "Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tc... Wonder how many kitchen knifes were deployed during this song.
	7:47pm ultradamno: The Red Krayola might be in contention...though much of the first album was free form freakouts
	7:47pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Coach32sm @7:45 The Nice and ELP were probably the first place a lot of kids heard this (classical) music.
	7:47pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tc... This
	🤯 7:47pm Will thee Sound Guy: been listening, busy... Hi Dave Mandl and all!!! diggin the prog!
	7:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tc... imagine this guy - and his immeasurable contribution to music... giving up on Life. fucking tragedy.
	7:48pm Dave Mandl: Hey, Will.
	7:48pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 Yep. Or Switched-On Bach.
	7:48pm Dave Mandl: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:48 True. That was sad and shocking. (Emerson died by suicide.)
	7:49pm dale: i'm a moodies guy. even if the original lineup was really an r and b group. by 67 they were prog. unless symphonic rock isn't really prog.
	7:49pm dday: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 and Buggs Bunny cartoons
	7:49pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:48 Not very rock, though?
	🤯 7:49pm G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:48 He had carpal tunnel surgery and it worked for years, but when he (Emerson) felt his playing ability was going again, he decided he was done. Or so I’ve read.
	🤯 7:49pm Troy: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 Warner Brother cartoons were my Classical gateway.
	7:49pm P-90: 1970 I think. And they had all the roots of prog well in place.
	7:50pm Coach32sm: Nice Nice
	🤯 7:50pm G: Didn’t Clay P mention this morning that this is the anniversary date of ELP’s breakup in 1979?
	7:50pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ dale @7:49 Smallest symphony orchestra in the world - T Clark
	7:50pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:49 What you say is spot on. The Nice cast a wider net with the kids due to the rawk.
	7:52pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ G @7:50 Yeah I think I caught that. 10 years and done.
	7:52pm coelacanth: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @7:47 hey Will! - sorry i never said hi last evening i lost internet for the rest of the evening
	7:52pm dday: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:48 Underlying causes being nerve damage & his inability carry on playing. Very sad but I know what chronic pain does to the mind at times. Bob Welch (Fleetwood Mac) killed himself due to chronic pain complications.
	7:52pm P-90: Little hints of “Karn Evil” there at the end
	🤯 7:52pm chresti: A fun farewell
	7:53pm P-90: Dave is the Keymaster
	7:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Dave! Fun from hello to farewell! There is no Dana, only Zeuhl!
	🤯 7:54pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ coelacanth @7:52 no worries coelacanth! hope all is going well!
	7:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ G @7:49 right...then you keep composing...and you keep enjoying all the other aspects of life! i guess he thought his keyboard playing was his only worth.
	7:54pm dday: "Mag-ma...Mag-ma" ;) Dr. Evil
	7:54pm Handy Haversack: ↳ P-90 @7:53 P-90 gets it.
	7:55pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 ELP was certainly my initial exposure to Mussorgsky. No disrespect intended, now I listen to the real deal as well.
	🤯 7:55pm G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:54 I read at the time of his death that it bugged him that he had to cancel touring because he couldn’t do what he’d done all those years any more.
	7:56pm dale: saw that hipgnosis doc. gave me the feeling that they were more petulant shysters than artists just to see what they could get away with... but hey, they were certainly prolific and influential.
	7:56pm dday: ↳ G @7:55 He was also dealing with alcoholism & depression. a bad combo with the pain
	7:56pm Jeff Moore: Zeuhl: The term comes from Kobaïan, the fictional language created by Magma's Christian Vander and Klaus Blasquiz for Magma, in which Zeuhl Ẁortz means approximately "Celestial Force". Okay, so I guess speaking Kobaïan is WAY nerdier then Klingon.
	7:56pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:56 They did do beautiful work, though. Some of the all-time great covers.
	7:56pm Chris Hiatt: Great show tonight Dave, thank you. Nice to listen with you all.
	7:57pm Tom from Stirling: Always a pleasure. Thanks, man.
	7:57pm dale: and the opening/ending shot of the sole survivor carrying his portfolio on his back was wonderful.
	7:57pm Dave Mandl: Thanks always, folks. Have a fantastic week and hope to see you next time.
	7:57pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:56 no argument. they caught lightning in a bottle a LOT.
	🤯 7:58pm SeaCreature: This was wonderful, thanks Dave
	🤯 7:58pm Troy: Thanks Dave!
	7:58pm Jeff Moore: And it all flew by so fast and so complicated! Thanks, Dave!
	7:59pm mic_a: Thanks Dave. Be well, everyone.
	7:59pm tom tom the pipers son: seems like some have made links between brutalism and music though not prog thespoonsterspouts.com...
	7:59pm dale: when they did what they did jsut because they could, well, that's how art is made.
	7:59pm Coach32sm: Goes so quickly. Thanks for complicating us!!!
	7:59pm P-90: Thanks, stay complicated
	🤯 8:00pm Elena: Thank you!
	8:00pm ?: Well, shoot! You played Wally while I was on local public transportation. Glad you got around to them, though. A sadly ignored band.
	8:00pm dale: ↳ Tom from Stirling @7:50 loved the pics of tony clark on the sleeves. always a rasputin look to him.
	🤯 8:00pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Dave Mandl!!!
	8:01pm Dean: I'm ?, and I think I'm the listener who rec'd Wally.
	8:01pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Dave!
	8:01pm bleubombersune: Dave as usual great music. All stay safe and be well

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 29, 2024

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January 29, 2024

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Yes	Five Percent for Nothing "Five Percent for Nothing" by "Yes"	Fragile	0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Guy Klucevsek	Samba D Hiccup "Samba D Hiccup" by "Guy Klucevsek"	V/A: A Classic Guide to No Man's Land	0:03:56 (Pop-up)

The Open Window	Italian Symphony "Italian Symphony" by "The Open Window"	The Open Window	0:10:53 (Pop-up)

Wally	The Martyr "The Martyr" by "Wally"	Wally	0:18:38 (Pop-up)

Cause for Effect	[6 tracks] "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect"	01 + 1 = 2	0:28:42 (Pop-up)

Horacee Arnold	Puppett of the Seasons	Tales of the Exonerated Flea	0:37:21 (Pop-up)

The Nice	Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tchaikovski)	Elegy	0:44:16 (Pop-up)

Setna	Guérison, pt. 2 "Guérison, pt. 2" by "Setna"	Guérison	0:54:28 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🤯 6:57pm Troy: Present!
	7:00pm Handy Haversack: Dave and the Complications!
	7:00pm ultradamno: Dave! Mandlotrons!
	7:01pm luka: hello
	7:01pm Coach32sm: Hasn't been too complicated lately, so complicate me tonight!!!! Lets go!!
	7:01pm common: dave. all
	🤯 7:01pm AnAnonymousParty: Good evening fellow proglodytes.
	7:01pm bleubombersune: Dave good evening Progolytes
	🤯 7:02pm G: There he is!
	7:02pm dale: hey now. welcome back. two weeks in prog timing is 3.5 weeks.
	7:02pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Dave and prog curious people.
	🤯 7:02pm HollyRT: Yayy....welcome back, DM
	7:02pm Handy Haversack: ↳ dale @7:02 Looking forward to a track in 24/7 time.
	🤯 7:03pm chresti: Hi Dave Mandl with a handl!
	🤯 7:03pm G: ↳ dale @7:02 With too many time signatures to complicate things further.
	7:04pm Soggy Donkey: ↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @7:02 Color me progruious
	7:04pm Handy Haversack: ↳ chresti @7:03 The prog don't work 'cause the vandls took the Mandl.
	7:04pm coelacanth∅: Greetings Dave welcome back!
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: Greetings, all. Thanks for joining me.
	7:06pm listener phat in Lincoln: Hello all.
	7:06pm dale: i like this. kinda like a sea shanty done by the guy at the lowery organ store at the mall.
	7:06pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Samba D Hiccup" by "Guy Klucevsek" Probably could use more accordion in my life
	🤯 7:06pm erictheise: welcome back. Guy Klucevsek did a phone interview with pianist Sarah Cahill about his new album on her radio show last night.
	7:06pm Ken From Hyde Park: No one holds a candl to Dave Mandl!
	7:07pm Tom from Stirling: Oh yeah, Guy Klucevsek.
	7:07pm dday: ↳ Song: "Samba D Hiccup" by "Guy Klucevsek" Evening Dave & All..Hey it's got keys & cool little buttons..it can progged out in the right hands. My Grandpa played accordion. He tried to teach me when I was bout 10 years old, but I was so small I couldn't handle it's massiveness (full size instrument)
	7:07pm Schnannhe: Klucevsek: Great stuff! In no way prog!
	🤯 7:08pm G: ↳ Schnannhe @7:07 It’s prog-adjacent-adjacent.
	7:09pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Schnannhe @7:07 Prog enough.
	7:10pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:02 Every day.
	7:11pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:10 And if it's on a piccolo trumpet? [chef's kiss]
	7:12pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Schnannhe @7:07 But very complicated.
	7:12pm dale: ↳ Song: "Italian Symphony" by "The Open Window" saw him at dia beacon doing a performance. schickele lived near woodstock i think.
	7:13pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "Italian Symphony" by "The Open Window" This is great
	7:14pm Tom from Stirling: Shickele Mix
	7:14pm Dave Mandl: And hello to: Troy, Handy, ultradamno (thanks for retweets), luka, Coach, common, AnAnonymousParty, bleubombersune, G, dale, Peter, Holly, chresti, Soggy, coelacanth∅, phat, daeric, Ken, Tom, dday, Schnannhe, Chris!
	🤯 7:15pm drumbone: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:10 hey how ya doin?
	7:15pm Dave Mandl: And welcome Mr. drumbone.
	7:16pm Chris Hiatt: Anybody else going to the Mustafina show in East Williamsburg, BK tonite?
	7:16pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:15 Dave, how did the idea for reviewing that book go down with your editor?
	7:17pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:16 Someone already claimed it!
	7:17pm Coach32sm: Open window in a Church
	7:18pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:17 Ha! Well, that's OK, too, I guess. I hope you enjoy it. And if you want a copy to give away for Marathon or anything, just let me know.
	🤯 7:18pm drumbone: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:16 I'm going!!! Are you?
	7:19pm Coach32sm: yeah I think they had 2 albums
	7:19pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:18 Thanks!
	7:19pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ drumbone @7:18 Haha, I would hope you are. I'll be thar! Hey how ya doin'?
	7:20pm Coach32sm: Wakeman is touring now as al of us know anyway!!!
	7:21pm Dave Mandl: @drumbone: Break a leg. Folks, his group Mustafina is really good and you should check tham out.
	7:21pm Dave Mandl: "tham"?
	🤯 7:21pm G: Wakeman claims that he’s about to stop touring, in his late 70s. We’ll see. They all say “farewell tour” to drive sales, right?
	7:22pm dale: ↳ Song: "The Martyr" by "Wally" love this. very pop, top 40ish for prog. like ambrosia or renaissance.
	7:22pm dale: ....or kansas and styx.
	7:22pm P-90: There’s not a lot of Prog with fine fiddling, but here’s an example
	🤯 7:22pm chresti: ↳ Handy Haversack @7:04 And then the vandls were scared away when mandl raised his handl
	🤯 7:23pm G: ↳ chresti @7:22 Your rhymes are a scandl haha
	🤯 7:23pm drumbone: MUSTAFINA playing at Sleepwalk 9:00
	7:23pm Dave Mandl: This bass player is keeping it proggy.
	7:23pm dday: ↳ dale @7:22 Kansas without the harder guitars
	7:24pm P-90: Yes, the bass is full-on prog
	7:24pm dday: ↳ chresti @7:22 Will we ever hear Mandl's Messiah? Bass solo version of course :)
	7:25pm ultradamno: So more Witchita than Lawrence...
	7:25pm Dave Mandl: ↳ P-90 @7:24 Rickenbacker 4001 FTW.
	🤯 7:25pm SeaCreature: Hi what’s I miss, besides an obvious rickebacker bass?
	7:26pm P-90: Yep, anything proggy-poppy with fiddle is gonna sound like Kansas. The “Steinhardt Effect”
	7:26pm mic_a: Hello and best wishes, Dave & progolators! Dave -- I have snagged (for 'the nice price') a new-old-stock copy of the "Cassette Mythos" book you edited back in 1992! It looks to be a heady plunge back into 20th century undergroundiness.
	7:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Martyr" by "Wally" Very Gittar Gently Werps...
	7:26pm dale: mckendree spring has the fiddlesque prog feel too.
	7:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @7:26 weEps ...I'm in the tub...
	7:27pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ ultradamno @7:25 Maybe so, but there are whispers of Lawrence here. I mean, check out the harpsichord-ish sounds.
	🤯 7:28pm chresti: ↳ dday @7:24 I hope so!
	🤯 7:29pm Troy: Just got back from Finland a couple days ago.
	🤯 7:29pm SeaCreature: Is that Cookie Monster
	7:29pm dday: ↳ P-90 @7:26 Kansas gets a bad rap becuase so many only know Dust in the Wind (dude). There's some instrumentals that are really great by them The Spider being one I like. Sadly Steinhardt's no longer with us
	7:30pm ultradamno: ↳ SeaCreature @7:29 Fronting Minutemen!
	🤯 7:30pm SeaCreature: ↳ ultradamno @7:30 Bullseye!
	7:30pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" Cookie Monster prog!
	🤯 7:30pm drumbone: MUSTAFINA is 3 members of ALICE DONUT (for you older folk)
	7:30pm lazy pierogi: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" reminds me a lot of Le Scrawl! so very similar, even in the "vocals" lol
	🤯 7:31pm chresti: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" my head's exploding now!
	7:31pm Saltonstall: Dave- Is Man Is The Bastard a prog band after all?
	7:31pm dday: ↳ dale @7:26 In the always weird billings at The Capitol in Passaic file. McKendree Spring opening for Zappa with Beefheart on the Bong Fury Tour .
	7:31pm laurapanic: ↳ drumbone @7:30 OH MY GOD
	7:32pm dale: ↳ dday @7:31 that sounds like a great bill!
	🤯 7:32pm SeaCreature: Hmm maybe i don’t need to be sweating third dang lyrics after all?
	🤯 7:32pm DjLorraine: Hi to all
	7:33pm dday: ↳ dale @7:32 It was a cool show. High School days
	🤯 7:33pm chresti: ↳ SeaCreature @7:32 Lyrics?
	7:33pm dday: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" So how many fingers does this guy have?
	🤯 7:34pm erictheise: Seventeen fingers but one vocal cord.
	7:34pm mic_a: It's nice that they have their dog doing the vocals.
	7:34pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" Kind of "Fishy"
	🤯 7:35pm drumbone: ↳ laurapanic @7:31 it's true! AD in the house
	7:35pm dday: ↳ Tom from Stirling @7:34 I was thinking Les Claypool, but man :)
	7:36pm listener phat in Lincoln: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" I probably could use more brutal prog in my life.
	7:36pm dale: if brutalist architecture had a sound cause for effect would be it.
	7:36pm lazy pierogi: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" follow up listening: youtu.be...
	7:37pm Saltonstall: Prog Violence
	7:37pm ultradamno: I was just saying the other day there should be more geometry in math rock causeforeffect.bandcamp.com...
	🤯 7:38pm SeaCreature: ↳ chresti @7:33 I never finish recording anything except orchestral music (cuz no vocals)
	7:40pm Dave Mandl: BTW, welcome P-90, RRN63, SeaCreature, pierogi, Saltonstall, laura, Lorraine, mic_a. Sorry if I missed anyone.
	7:40pm tom tom the pipers son: brutal prog made me think of the revival of interest in brutalist architecture, is there an analogy in the reveval of interest in prog? is there an aesthetic analogy?
	7:40pm Jeff Moore: ↳ Song: "[6 tracks]" by "Cause for Effect" This interlude was remarkable! Structured like much of the metal I've heard, but with a different timbre... and where the usual scary roar would be, a sound more like when a slightly clogged sink finishes draining and there's that little sucking sound.
	7:41pm Dave Mandl: ↳ mic_a @7:34 That's very funny.
	🤯 7:41pm SeaCreature: Wild and Zappa- esque kinda
	7:41pm Dave Mandl: Hey Jeff M! And tom tom!
	7:41pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Song: "Puppett of the Seasons" by "Horacee Arnold" This is definitely the rowdier side of jazz fusion.
	🤯 7:42pm chresti: ↳ Jeff Moore @7:40 Like a drain burp.
	7:42pm listener phat in Lincoln: Talk about
	🤯 7:42pm SeaCreature: Bit of Mikal urbaniak in that last one too
	🤯 7:43pm drumbone: Say WHAT???
	7:43pm Derbs: This sounded like Jan Hammer
	7:43pm dday: ↳ SeaCreature @7:41 An interesting Zappa doc. Worth the watch: www.imdb.com...
	🤯 7:44pm SeaCreature: ↳ dday @7:43 Thanks I need to watch that
	7:44pm Jeff Moore: ↳ chresti @7:42 Yeah, that!
	7:45pm Jeff Moore: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:41 Hey Dave!
	7:45pm P-90: The Nice! If one HAS to stick a pin in the map of time and space to try to indicate the “first” prog band, they’re it
	7:45pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Derbs @7:43 It was Jan Hammer!
	7:45pm Coach32sm: The only way I can listen to classical music!!!
	🤯 7:46pm Troy: ↳ Song: "Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tc... Wonder how many kitchen knifes were deployed during this song.
	7:47pm ultradamno: The Red Krayola might be in contention...though much of the first album was free form freakouts
	7:47pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Coach32sm @7:45 The Nice and ELP were probably the first place a lot of kids heard this (classical) music.
	7:47pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ Song: "Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tc... This
	🤯 7:47pm Will thee Sound Guy: been listening, busy... Hi Dave Mandl and all!!! diggin the prog!
	7:48pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Song: "Pathetique (Symphony No. 6, 3rd Movement, P.I. Tc... imagine this guy - and his immeasurable contribution to music... giving up on Life. fucking tragedy.
	7:48pm Dave Mandl: Hey, Will.
	7:48pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 Yep. Or Switched-On Bach.
	7:48pm Dave Mandl: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:48 True. That was sad and shocking. (Emerson died by suicide.)
	7:49pm dale: i'm a moodies guy. even if the original lineup was really an r and b group. by 67 they were prog. unless symphonic rock isn't really prog.
	7:49pm dday: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 and Buggs Bunny cartoons
	7:49pm Dave Mandl: ↳ Chris Hiatt @7:48 Not very rock, though?
	🤯 7:49pm G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:48 He had carpal tunnel surgery and it worked for years, but when he (Emerson) felt his playing ability was going again, he decided he was done. Or so I’ve read.
	🤯 7:49pm Troy: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 Warner Brother cartoons were my Classical gateway.
	7:49pm P-90: 1970 I think. And they had all the roots of prog well in place.
	7:50pm Coach32sm: Nice Nice
	🤯 7:50pm G: Didn’t Clay P mention this morning that this is the anniversary date of ELP’s breakup in 1979?
	7:50pm Tom from Stirling: ↳ dale @7:49 Smallest symphony orchestra in the world - T Clark
	7:50pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:49 What you say is spot on. The Nice cast a wider net with the kids due to the rawk.
	7:52pm Chris Hiatt: ↳ G @7:50 Yeah I think I caught that. 10 years and done.
	7:52pm coelacanth: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @7:47 hey Will! - sorry i never said hi last evening i lost internet for the rest of the evening
	7:52pm dday: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:48 Underlying causes being nerve damage & his inability carry on playing. Very sad but I know what chronic pain does to the mind at times. Bob Welch (Fleetwood Mac) killed himself due to chronic pain complications.
	7:52pm P-90: Little hints of “Karn Evil” there at the end
	🤯 7:52pm chresti: A fun farewell
	7:53pm P-90: Dave is the Keymaster
	7:54pm Handy Haversack: Thanks, Dave! Fun from hello to farewell! There is no Dana, only Zeuhl!
	🤯 7:54pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ coelacanth @7:52 no worries coelacanth! hope all is going well!
	7:54pm coelacanth∅: ↳ G @7:49 right...then you keep composing...and you keep enjoying all the other aspects of life! i guess he thought his keyboard playing was his only worth.
	7:54pm dday: "Mag-ma...Mag-ma" ;) Dr. Evil
	7:54pm Handy Haversack: ↳ P-90 @7:53 P-90 gets it.
	7:55pm Peter from Saranac Lake NY: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:47 ELP was certainly my initial exposure to Mussorgsky. No disrespect intended, now I listen to the real deal as well.
	🤯 7:55pm G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:54 I read at the time of his death that it bugged him that he had to cancel touring because he couldn’t do what he’d done all those years any more.
	7:56pm dale: saw that hipgnosis doc. gave me the feeling that they were more petulant shysters than artists just to see what they could get away with... but hey, they were certainly prolific and influential.
	7:56pm dday: ↳ G @7:55 He was also dealing with alcoholism & depression. a bad combo with the pain
	7:56pm Jeff Moore: Zeuhl: The term comes from Kobaïan, the fictional language created by Magma's Christian Vander and Klaus Blasquiz for Magma, in which Zeuhl Ẁortz means approximately "Celestial Force". Okay, so I guess speaking Kobaïan is WAY nerdier then Klingon.
	7:56pm Dave Mandl: ↳ dale @7:56 They did do beautiful work, though. Some of the all-time great covers.
	7:56pm Chris Hiatt: Great show tonight Dave, thank you. Nice to listen with you all.
	7:57pm Tom from Stirling: Always a pleasure. Thanks, man.
	7:57pm dale: and the opening/ending shot of the sole survivor carrying his portfolio on his back was wonderful.
	7:57pm Dave Mandl: Thanks always, folks. Have a fantastic week and hope to see you next time.
	7:57pm dale: ↳ Dave Mandl @7:56 no argument. they caught lightning in a bottle a LOT.
	🤯 7:58pm SeaCreature: This was wonderful, thanks Dave
	🤯 7:58pm Troy: Thanks Dave!
	7:58pm Jeff Moore: And it all flew by so fast and so complicated! Thanks, Dave!
	7:59pm mic_a: Thanks Dave. Be well, everyone.
	7:59pm tom tom the pipers son: seems like some have made links between brutalism and music though not prog thespoonsterspouts.com...
	7:59pm dale: when they did what they did jsut because they could, well, that's how art is made.
	7:59pm Coach32sm: Goes so quickly. Thanks for complicating us!!!
	7:59pm P-90: Thanks, stay complicated
	🤯 8:00pm Elena: Thank you!
	8:00pm ?: Well, shoot! You played Wally while I was on local public transportation. Glad you got around to them, though. A sadly ignored band.
	8:00pm dale: ↳ Tom from Stirling @7:50 loved the pics of tony clark on the sleeves. always a rasputin look to him.
	🤯 8:00pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Dave Mandl!!!
	8:01pm Dean: I'm ?, and I think I'm the listener who rec'd Wally.
	8:01pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Dave!
	8:01pm bleubombersune: Dave as usual great music. All stay safe and be well

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from January 29, 2024

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