WFMU: The Frow Show with Jesse Jarnow: Playlist from January 23, 2024

Listener comments!
	9:00pm ultradamno: ROKY!
	9:01pm dj jj.: roky & tommy & the gang & i welcome you to this evening's frow show!
	9:02pm Carmichael: Would recognize that electric jug anywhere
	👻 9:02pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" Hey, Jesse. Wow, what a starter!
	9:02pm tom tom the pipers son: alright let's get frow(n) greetings jesse and people...
	9:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" Elevators @ Avalon has made me think - right just that moment - they really were the most advanced band in the world. Live anyway...
	👻 9:02pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" Ho frowses!
	9:02pm Alexandra: 😎✊🏼
	9:03pm northguineahills: crackers, i have to jump back to the couch i surf. but, i just landed an apt in sunset park, so, i'll be around in feb to hear ya live again. saludos!
	👻 9:03pm PaulRobeson1924: Hi Hi Hi
	9:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" disk.yandex.com...
	👻 9:04pm cookiejarvis: a Hitchcockian goodEEEEEEeeevening to one and all.
	9:04pm northguineahills: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @9:03 i was doing an analysis of an incident near your namesake's middle school in brooklyn today...
	👻 9:05pm chresti: 2 September is my ex's birthday!
	9:06pm northguineahills: ↳ chresti @9:05 my ex's is 9/11....
	9:07pm tom tom the pipers son: neat blend there btween songs
	9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" disk.yandex.com...
	👻 9:07pm PaulRobeson1924: Today is the day Paul Robeson passed on January 23, 1976
	9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Mock the Hours" by "David Nance and Mowed Sound" Thot might be TheBand.
	9:07pm Handy Haversack: Jesse. Jarnovians.
	👻 9:08pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:07 Yes, the jug eased us into mock the hours!
	9:08pm Carmichael: I don’t have an ex …
	9:08pm Alexandra: I read that too fast and almost said happy late bday Chresti 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
	9:08pm Chris H: This song smokes
	9:09pm tom tom the pipers son: hi chresti, that's a wonderful wording...;)
	9:10pm Chris H: No keep playing it
	9:10pm dj jj.: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:07 as the freeform gods wrote, one intentional sounding accident deserves one sloppy accident!
	👻 9:10pm chresti: ↳ Alexandra @9:08 Hi Alexandra! My bday is exactly a month before!
	9:10pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:07 did indeed have that sound
	9:11pm squinty eyes: hey from the pnw! space is the place
	9:11pm Alexandra: My ex’s is 13 days before mine Chresti 🫨
	👻 9:12pm chresti: ↳ dj jj. @9:10 made ja nervous!
	9:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ dj jj. @9:10 ha! no such things as accidents
	9:13pm Alexandra: My bday is Friday revolution rabbit tell me what the planets have in store for me
	9:14pm Carmichael: Was that Dinosaur Jr. singing about dinosaur jr?
	9:14pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 The respect and admiration of your (WFMU) peers, at the VERY least!
	👻 9:14pm PaulRobeson1924: It’s way, way past my bed time… @Alexandra: good evening, Alexandra. I can tell yer future, just look what’s in your hand
	9:14pm Corry342: Joining in for some Frow activity
	9:15pm Alexandra: Handy! Another Muriel Spark novel for me to ignore PaulR?
	👻 9:15pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Alexandra @9:15 Oh, Alexandra, baby
	👻 9:15pm chresti: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 This Friday? Happy birthday!
	9:16pm Alexandra: Thanks Chresti 😇
	9:16pm tom tom the pipers son: happy birthday alexandra...
	9:17pm dj jj.: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 happy almost-happy!
	9:18pm Alexandra: Thank you 😎😎😎💜💜💜
	9:19pm dave: Nice stuff!
	9:20pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Alexandra @9:18 I AM going to see you more before Friday, but I'll extend the first tranche of a deep supply of well wishes now. But this is just a foretaste! It's Monday! Wait, shit, it's Tuesday, isn't it? Man, time is HARD.
	9:20pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Crushed Velvet" by "Molly Lewis" this is well done and hysterical
	👻 9:20pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "Crushed Velvet" by "Molly Lewis" I love the way the whistling makes me rethink the album title here.
	9:22pm alexandra: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:20 Thank u handy. Our storage unit in queens is raising the rent so we are heading to New York probably in the spring to clear it out. Probably have some records to leave to ya n K8 if u buy us some drinks hehe
	9:22pm slugluv1313: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 Happy Birthday, Alex! 💜🔪😻🔪🖤 (same day as Angela Davis, iirc -- so cool!)
	9:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 Joyeux ♒︎Aquarian ⦿Solar Return Alexandra ! : www.facebook.com... It would take some effort & time to do up your Birth Chart, & your Solar Return (B-Day) Chart - & interpret & compare them both, frankly... But it's certainly an interesting time to be an ♒︎Aquarius.
	9:22pm Handy Haversack: ↳ alexandra @9:22 Oh. INDEED.
	9:23pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:22 (Though "buy" might be "make." And then "buy." We'll go have an evening, I'm saying. You can meet the cats.)
	9:24pm alexandra: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:22 Omg I forgot about that! Angela Davis, Wayne Gretzky, and Vince Carter. Yes I am also a political activist and sports superstar 🙄
	👻 9:24pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @9:22 You don't want to bring all your junk back, and burn it in the middle of the desert?
	9:24pm alexandra: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:22 I look forward to this every year 💜💜💜💜💜
	9:24pm alexandra: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:23 😊😊😊😊😊 deal!!!
	9:25pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:24 The Mojave does not need any more assholes doing that
	9:25pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:22 hi RRN63! indeed! and with Pluto moving into Aquarius? yikes! quite heavy -- so . . . hoping for the best, but bracing for the worst
	9:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:22 Deeply transformative ♇Pluto will be in progressive independent ♒︎Aquarius for the next 20 years - big news in Astrology land : www.facebook.com...
	👻 9:27pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @9:25 Then burn it it the middle of Wisconsin.
	9:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:25 Your un-NewAgey impression is refreshing...
	9:28pm steveo: ↳ Song: "Days of Longing" by "Magic Tuber Stringband" now this is the good stuff (good evening!)
	9:29pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:27 Think I’d rather stop by Marty’s and exchange for some pennies
	👻 9:29pm chresti: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:27 Or find a cheaper storage space
	👻 9:29pm Franco Twinkie: That's using your noggin!
	9:32pm slugluv1313: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:27 or Iowa! or wherever there is a Tr💩mp rally! (and, i will take the fall if need be -- Hell's Grannies are too "old" to give a damn about breaking the law)
	9:32pm Tommy in Neversink: ↳ Song: "Old Man on the Mountain" by "P.G. Six" Beautiful
	👻 9:34pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:32 That's what I was thinking! All those places that hate New York and Los Angeles.
	👻 9:35pm Franco Twinkie: ....and don't have anything a civilized person wants to eat.
	9:37pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Nwaoba" by "The Three Night Wizards" thought that also had characteristics of s african music...miriam makeba...
	9:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:35 i guess you don't like corn
	9:39pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:27 thank you! my knowledge is limited, but the more i learn, the more i think that we are in for a major upheaval, which could go in either a "good" (freedom, peace, acceptance, etc.) or a "bad" (oppression, dictatorships, hatred, etc.) direction . . . apparently the last time Pluto was hanging out in Aquarius, the constitution of what is now known as "the united states" was being developed, and other places on Earth were challenging monarchies, oppressive systems, etc.
	9:40pm ?: this is pure nonsense
	9:40pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "Sex Is For Children" by "The Roches" This is making K8 very happy. Sometimes you want to hear the good stuff you know.
	👻 9:40pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:39 Au contraire! But it has to be fashioned into a tortilla or tamale.
	9:41pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:40 ah, right
	9:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Sex Is For Children" by "The Roches" never heard this before and less pretty than usual and i dig
	9:44pm slugluv1313: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:40 or homemade corn bread! with blue cornmeal! (which i used to be able to get in the supermarket! but have not seen it anywhere nowadays, except online)
	9:45pm alexandra: I had been buying the blue corn tortillas at Aldi thinking it was a fancy treat. It’s blue #5 or whatever. Class action lawsuit impending
	9:47pm slugluv1313: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:34 or any big city! even just seeing clips of the rallies on tv -- the racism and undiluted hatred are palpable
	👻 9:47pm cookiejarvis: 45 minutes of Frow is like three or four hours of real time. I feel like I've been all these different places.
	9:48pm slugluv1313: ↳ alexandra @9:45 oh no!!! that is despicable!
	9:48pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ cookiejarvis @9:47 feel that
	9:48pm franklinstower: orcuuuuttt hell yea
	👻 9:48pm chresti: ↳ cookiejarvis @9:47 I know what you mean, like a fast train!
	9:50pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Only At Dusk" by "Bill Orcutt" this is majestic
	9:50pm slugluv1313: ↳ cookiejarvis @9:47 YES! i am loving all of this
	9:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Well - ♇Pluto is regarded as thoroughly transformative of the matters of the sign it transits. Easy to euphemize - but it's death before regeneration. It is otoh - quite slow. It's also regarded as examining the correlates of a sign to its absolute underground foundations. (As it has the Bureaucracies & Hierarchies under ♑︎Capricorn these last 15 years.) ♒︎Aquarius is regarded as correlating to idealistic Humanism - but also Technology & scientific detachment... ☍Opposite of ♌︎Leo's Heart Ego Identity (& Monarchy) - ♒︎Aquarius represents the identity paradox of the Age in terms of the Individual & the Group. (Did I mention Tech ?) ♇Pluto to Regeneration but also Obsession. ♒︎Aquarius to Knowledge & Awareness - but also Eccentricity... Yeah I wonder how this will be.
	👻 9:51pm chresti: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:50 hi slugluv! Granny core!
	9:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes" by "GTO's: Girls... Zappa Producing, presenting & documenting a particular scene of individuals. But had to be more Theatrical then the actually Musical cult of the Magic Band. It's interesting enuff.
	9:54pm steveo: it's it's the frow show!!!!
	👻 9:54pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Tuscan" by "Ecstatic Sunshine" jeepers!
	10:00pm slugluv1313: ↳ chresti @9:51 hi chresti! hell yeah!
	10:03pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:50 yes! and when i had learned that Capricorn had been in Aquarius starting in 2008 -- the proverbial light bulb lit up, so much (bad stuff) made sense
	10:05pm Chris H: Mary's album with Greg Cartwright is an absolute all time favorite
	10:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:03 ♇Pluto into ♑︎Capricorn 2008 you mean. Yeah : www.astrology.com...
	10:06pm tom tom the pipers son: did joey ramone style his singing after mary weiss...
	10:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:06 Partly. Ramones & Shangri-Las both from Queens reportedly.
	👻 10:08pm cookiejarvis: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:07 of course, so is Art Garfunkel
	10:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:07 mary weiss born in jamaica qns, ramones from forest hills
	10:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:06 & Mary said Joey telling her how important TheShangri-Las were for TheRamones moved her.
	10:10pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:09 oh, did not know that
	10:11pm Blissland: tuesday and saturday seem like possibly days that I should avoid wfmu
	10:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:10 Just read it.
	10:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:11 ah, i think you can hear the influence
	👻 10:13pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:47 I had to wash my hair so it will dry before I go to bed, but yes. The political season is just starting(GAG!) And to hear fuckface strutting around like a rooster for the rest of the year doesn't sound good. It only emboldens the half-wits to march in lock step.
	👻 10:14pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:12 One of the funny things about the Shangri-Las/CBGB nexus is that the girls were so young when Shangri-Las hit that they are practically the same age as the CBs bands that hit a decade later. Joey Ramone was a couple years younger than Mary Weiss.
	10:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:12 GirlGroups always obvious influence on TheRamones. & TheBeatles. & the Dolls...
	👻 10:15pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): Debbie Harry and Patti Smith are actually older than Mary Weiss.
	10:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:13 MaryWeis was 15 singing 'Leadrer of the Pack' I think !
	10:15pm Blissland: My own present living hell began in 2008 and has yet to stop getting worse. But I wasn't aware of any metaphysical cause of it
	10:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:15 Crazy !
	👻 10:16pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:15 Doesn't change the influence thing, it's just interesting.
	10:16pm Blissland: Debbie is my favorite
	10:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:14 yes was just posting that
	👻 10:20pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:15 If memory serves me, 15 is the perfect age for a girl to romanticise an older hoodlum.
	10:20pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:05 OOPS! yes -- brain dead at this point 🤯🤯 (long, frustrating day)
	10:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:20 - after all.
	👻 10:21pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): Lenny Kaye, also older than Mary Weiss. I'm super intrigued by a story that he reassembled the Shangri-Las for a reunion show at CBGB and some recording sessions for Sire that were never released. Where are they now? In some vault somewhere? Or just lost? Here's a decent account: spectropop.com...
	10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:14 i guess in all different ways, but have never associated beatles and girl groups but ' i wanna hold your hand' could have been a girl group song
	10:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:20 It's a lot to keep straight. I kind of make a practice of it.
	10:22pm Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:20 Days. They're the WORST.
	10:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 - after all (to Franco I mean).
	👻 10:22pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @10:22 you're really riled up about time tonight, Handy.
	10:23pm slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:22 hi Handy! sometimes, yes -- other times, not so bad
	10:23pm alexandra: I had yesterday off so I keep thinking it’s Monday and it definitely has been kind of a Garfield day for some mysterious reason
	10:23pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:22 I ain't fer it, I'm agin it!
	10:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:21 Beatles did 'Boys' & 'Chains' for example. Of course they were aware of everything & absorbing it, as Masters of fields generally are.
	👻 10:24pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @10:23 "Days" is a pretty good Television song, though.
	👻 10:24pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:21 To me, I Wanna Hold Your Hand sounds sweet and uncomplicated
	👻 10:24pm chresti: ↳ Blissland @10:15 I filed for bankruptcy in 2008
	👻 10:24pm Ken From Hyde Park: Daze > Days
	👻 10:25pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:24 Sparks sexes it up a little.
	10:25pm Blissland: ↳ chresti @10:24 I went bankrupt in 2012 myself. I wonder if something happened metaphysically in 2006 or 2008 that led to the way things are now
	👻 10:26pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:25 I Wanna Hold Your Gland?
	10:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:24 I think 'She Loves You' is the one tho - the most perfect piece of Candy ever confected.
	10:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:24 well maybe the shangrilas wouldn't have done it, but another girl group?
	👻 10:27pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @10:23 For some reason you're making me think abt those great LCD lyrics: Everybody's singing the same song It goes "tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight" I never realized these artists thought so much about dying
	👻 10:28pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:26 They really should have done that, right? No, just their delivery. They sound a little older and more worldly wise on their cover. Plus the sweeping strings just sound a little dirty.
	10:28pm Robm: guys if the big orange monster gets back in the white house, what is going to happen to stations like WFMU, and i wonder if the orange monster can prevent us from listening to international broadcasting like the bbc? sorry if this all sounds paranoid.
	👻 10:29pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:26 But on that first album Don't Bother Me, is the yang to the ying. A perfect reality check to all those screaming children.
	10:29pm Blissland: ↳ Robm @10:28 Not at all, I have considered that myself. That will be the least of our worries though
	👻 10:29pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "Names Make the Name" by "Jim White" wow looking forward to this. thanks for playing it, jesse.
	10:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Ivory" by "Gercyz / Powers / Rolin" digging
	10:30pm Robm: ↳ Robm @10:28 might ask the same question during kens show tomorrow
	10:30pm Bill K: Hi ho Frowsketeers
	10:31pm Blissland: Bankruptcy was truly the least of things that have happened to me since 2008. It has been a steady spiral into hell. Not a single thing has improved since then
	10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:29 George's first Harrisong. Written when he was ill. Well - I think TheBeatles & especially Lennon - but the whole Liverpool experience was about the play of dark & light. & that early in Pop Music - it was about how much subject you could communicate in a surface facile form. Then Dylan crossed over & let it all out of the bag.
	10:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:31 *subtext (not subject ...close.)
	10:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:31 - take TheBeatles' version of 'Money' from then. An R&B cover - but the sly irony is transmuted into Class anguish & actual rage. In 1963.
	10:34pm Robm: ↳ Blissland @10:29 blissland might ask ken the same question tomorrow morning during his show
	10:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:33 to taxman
	10:35pm Robm: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 happy early birthday alex
	10:35pm Blissland: ↳ Robm @10:34 It's gonna be bad either way. If he loses the magats will riot everywhere. But now the democrats are repeating everything they screwed up in 2016.
	10:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:35 - in just three years.
	10:37pm alexandra: ↳ Robm @10:35 Thank you !!
	10:37pm Robm: ↳ alexandra @10:37 your welcome
	10:37pm brycepunk1: That echo-y guitar is giving me such Throbbing Gristle vibes. Love it.
	👻 10:38pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:31 I will dare by The Replacements is the perfect answer song to Don't Bother Me.
	10:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:36 have you listened to the podcast i linked to... lots of beatles info
	10:38pm Robm: ↳ Blissland @10:35 that’s what i think too
	10:39pm Robm: slugluv if you are still around hello to you too
	10:40pm Blissland: ↳ Robm @10:38 I blame them for depriving us of president Sanders, and now again they have squeezed out everyone but the neo-liberal biden. There is no party of the people in amerikkka
	10:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:38 Not yet ! Tho I've listened a lot to two or three Beatle-themed podcasts - 'Fab 4 Free 4 All' & 'Something About The Beatles'. '500 Songs' looks good !
	10:40pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:38 Just noticed your new to me picture Mushroom therapy! I wrote a a poem Sunday about how my friend who sends me mushrooms had to go to the post office twice to fix the address this last time. Read it at open mic. I had them laughing and then crying. I will email it to you
	👻 10:42pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @10:40 That's endemic to San Francisco at this moment.
	10:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Blissland @10:40 Pretty much the case - but I hope we don't make the same mistake as Germany in the 1930s & divide the Vote & let the Fascists win. In fact - it's pretty much what happened in the USA in 1968 after RFK was murded & the Democrats divided agaisnts themselves. & frankly - here we are.
	10:43pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:38 answer song reminds me a story i related earlier... very loud obnoxious violent teens on bus, a woman tells them to shut up in so many words, they responded with a 'sick my dick' she replied 'suck your mothers dick'...we got off at same stop and had a little talk
	10:43pm Robm: ↳ alexandra @10:40 alexandra have you ever listened to the moth radio show? you would be great
	10:43pm Katharsis: How now frow?
	👻 10:43pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Robm @10:28 in 2016 i must have listened to the opening set of @efd's post-election show a dozen times. wfmu.org...
	10:44pm alexandra: ↳ Robm @10:43 They didn’t hire me as an intern in 2014 so I stopped listening I am IMMATURE
	10:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:40 you can join his patreon for a dollar a month, you get extras
	10:45pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:42 It would be a really bitter pill for me to swallow if I had to vote for biden strategically, especially since I hate his guts, and especially since I am for the most part in agreement with rfk jr.
	👻 10:45pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): kids i'm going to bed. wake comes early. thanks, jj, for so many 2024 items to put on my wish list. xoxo.
	10:45pm Robm: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:43 will listen to that show tomorrow @Alexandra their loss
	10:46pm alexandra: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:45 Good night Prof!
	10:46pm Robm: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:45 so am i bryan
	10:47pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:42 So yeah, that's probably exactly what will happen. Who you choose to blame I guess is a personal preference. I choose to blame the democrats because they doing the same thing
	10:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Blissland @10:45 Well - I don't think I agree with rfk the Junior on too very much. Biden is what we knew he was - a Party regular & a little too Militant (as in fond of the Military). But in other terms has exceeded my expectations, actually. It's absurd to agonize who is better between Drumpf & Biden. Spare us all that, if you please.
	👻 10:49pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @10:44 Immature - I don't know about that. The logical response to an untouchable media phenom that won't look your way is 'Go suck your mothers dick!' But you're a nice girl, and nice girls don't talk that way(HA!)
	10:51pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:48 No question trump is worse than biden, for america and for the world. And if I got my information about rfk jr.'s ideas from cnn, I wouldn't like him either. He has a facebook entry that seems to be free of censorship
	10:52pm slugluv1313: ↳ Robm @10:39 hiya Robm! yup, still lurking about :)
	10:53pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:49 You should talk to Justin about how many times I say something or someone can suck my dick on a daily basis 🫣🫨
	👻 10:53pm Franco Twinkie: I know THAT!
	10:54pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:48 did not read recent paul krugman column on public opinion and the economy, but it seemed to be about opinion shifting away from negative view, krugman has reported for a while that the economy is in good shape
	10:54pm Blissland: I'm hearing the program
	10:54pm Robm: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:52 figured that good for you
	10:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Blissland @10:51 Well - I'm on farceborg all day every day. But you know - if it's 'Free' - you're the Product. Zuckerbird is a little too loose with the fascists & the misinformation for the Uber-richest & largest Publisher in the history of the human race. That is - he's taking no responsibility whatsoever for the truth of what's on there - or accountability for its damage.
	10:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ alexandra @10:53 poetic licentiousness
	10:57pm Robm: well this is my last comment before i go to bed, i stay away from cable news and listen to news radio, less koolade drinking
	10:59pm Corry342: signing off too. Have a good frow tonight
	10:59pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:55 I had a look today at rfk's feed there, and I am with him on pretty much everything. Except some of the people he praises. I don't mind if I disagree with anyone, I just want everyone to be well informed, including myself. Which is never easy. Or, it's hard to know who to trust
	11:01pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Blissland @10:59 i think the rest of rfk jr's family have had a good look at him and they've practically disowned him
	11:02pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:01 Yeah that seems to be true
	11:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Every Reporting Media outlet knows who butters which side of their bread. So really any source has to be put in context. It's also happened that - how bread gets buttered in general has changed seismically. More & More is owned by Fewer & Fewer. Which is maybe the central fact of our time.
	11:04pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:03 That's all by design of course.
	11:07pm Blissland: If rfk turns out to be full of shit, then shame on me. But I know that joe biden is just another neo-liberal scumbag like all the ones that have been dragging us down since reagan. It will just continue to be endless wars with bottomless budgets and ever increasing wealth disparity. The problem now is, the alternative is outright fascism.
	11:08pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:03 a different type of "monoculture" information monoculture
	11:09pm Handy Haversack: Crashing out here, too. Thanks, Jesse. You done done it right.
	11:09pm dj jj.: thanks for jamming; y'all gonna miss the sweet live tape i'm about to drop, though!
	11:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:03 ...a simple model of - a News & Media (& see right away how Information & Entertainment are too entwined in how I even have to phrase this) provides you with Truth & Facts - you appreciate that & listen ~ read ~ watch - & Advertisers & Sponsors know that & support them - so there's money to do all this ...you know it's much more top down than that now than it was before. Republicans Deregulated FCC controls on how many Newspapers or TV Stations can be owned by one person or Corporation. The Fairness Act was abolished. & so on.
	11:10pm chresti: I love this! Thanks Jesse, gots to hit the hay Gnight everyone
	11:10pm dj jj.: ↳ dj jj. @11:09 (after this tune)
	11:11pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:10 Yeah I think that was reagan, and then some of the worst legislation was enacted under clinton. They're all scum
	11:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ dj jj. @11:09 Apologies. Giving up setting the world right - & just digging Musics for the last hour. :D
	11:13pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:10 can't help but think of soviet union and the ending of animal farm where the animals look to farmer an d pig and can't tell the difference
	👻 11:14pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Blissland @11:07 I might be talking out of my ass, but I think RFK might still be under the delusion there is a splinter of Camelot worth hanging onto in this sea of swirling garbage.
	11:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:14 the butt music was a few tracks ago...;)
	11:16pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:14 I'm not sure how confident he is that he can a) win and b) get anything meaningful done. But hopefully more confident than I am. I'm certainly willing to let him try
	👻 11:18pm Franco Twinkie: Why not! If he has a shred of entitled confidence, let him put it to good use.
	11:20pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:18 I would be very surprised if it's all an act, in his case. Of course it's an uphill climb. He has pitted himself against every powerful vested interest in the world.
	11:21pm Harry Corvair: Catching this groove Best show, DJ JJ Themes by Marshall Allen's Ghost Horizons (12 January 2024 Nublu, NYC)
	11:21pm tom tom the pipers son: rfk jr's views on covid seemed pretty wacked, stuff relating to jews, i forget the details
	11:22pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 I'm not aware of what he has said about Jews?
	11:24pm tom tom the pipers son: ny times ul 20, 2023 — Kennedy Jr. that the Covid-19 virus was engineered to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people has stirred accusations of antisemitism and racism ...
	11:24pm Blissland: I believe he said that he would support israel unconditionally, which I don't. But that I got second hand.
	11:26pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:24 yeah if he said that, it doesn't sound right. But I do believe most of the official narrative about covid-19 is a web of lies
	11:27pm alexandra: This is awesome Jesse !!!!
	11:27pm Blissland: The only thing real about it is the virus itself
	👻 11:28pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Blissland @11:20 Sure he has. Most voters are probably only vaguely aware of the Kennedy legacy. When his father was assassinated, America was in a different tub of hot shit. Bobby Kennedy was beloved by the down trodden( In California at least ) The idea of a viable left hadn't been completely squashed.
	11:28pm tom tom the pipers son: that buried guitar is really neat
	11:30pm farmer george∅: oink
	11:31pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:28 Yeah and I'm pretty sure rfk is the only one who had a chance of beating nixon. I liked Eugene McCarthy a lot, but he would have lost. Of course the democrats picked the least charismatic of all of them, which pretty much guaranteed a victory for nixon. They keep repeating that pattern
	👻 11:33pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:24 Are there any statistics to suggest this is worth talking about?
	11:33pm Blissland: Now if you look today at what people call "leftist" and "liberal", it's actually in general to the right of Eisenhower
	11:33pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ farmer george∅ @11:30 was that his name? hiya coelacanth
	11:34pm Blissland: Sanders would have been a moderate in 1968, and he still is
	👻 11:34pm Franco Twinkie: Typical Democratic strategy. Will those blockheads ever learn?
	11:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:33 times says its unfounded
	11:35pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:34 if they don't learn this year then we will likely lose the republic.
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: hey tom tom... i don't remember. i just chose george for the puppetmaster behind shithead reagan, the bush family.
	11:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Blissland @11:34 yes and a moderate in europe, chomsky calls him a roosevelt democrat
	11:37pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:36 For all his flaws, fdr was great for america. I can't imagine what would have happened without him
	11:37pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:35 and prescott before him, i remember all that stuff on dave emory
	👻 11:38pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:36 How so? Did he implement a WPA project?
	11:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:38 just in terms of values just like there were rockefeller republicans
	11:40pm coelacanth∅: apparently my family on my father's side always voted democrat until FDR passed on making my grandfather a supreme court judge. they all started voting republican then...rational adults that they were...
	11:41pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:39 roosevelt dems, an old term not invented by chomsky
	11:41pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:40 rather an extreme reaction
	👻 11:41pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:39 But still, theorizing about what he might do is so much hot air if the guy looses.
	11:42pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:41 fucking childish
	11:42pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 Is that a cooper mini?
	11:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:40 jack smith has a film about wendell wilkie...no president
	11:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 ...i voted for someone i couldn't stand personally for mayor of new paltz a few years back because i thought he was a good mayor.
	11:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:41 but it all one has to go on, not theorizing just evaluating
	👻 11:45pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:44 Okay, I need to calm down. It's only January.
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:42 yes,a real one! (as opposed to the reintroduced "mini cooper" which is bullshit) this was George Harrison's. there's a good picture in the www of it alongside Lennon's obese painted rolls royce
	11:47pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:45 i probably heard chomsky say that in 2016
	11:47pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:46 Oh cool. Yeah the so-called minis now are mini in name only.
	11:47pm Blissland: I think my nissan weighs less than a new mini
	11:48pm coelacanth∅: external-content.duckduckgo.com...
	👻 11:48pm Franco Twinkie: I will say this and then I'm going to bed: Chresti and I saw Lambchop at The Troubadour years ago. There were more people on stage than in the audience. Good night everyone.
	11:49pm alexandra: Franco it’s 8:48
	11:49pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:48 ahaha that's rich
	11:49pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:48 pleasant dreams
	👻 11:50pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @11:49 I'm more that twice your age - you'll find out.
	11:50pm tom tom the pipers son: see ya franco..
	11:51pm Blissland: The rolls is like 4x the size of the mini
	11:51pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:50 😇 just being a brat. I’m only not in bed because I am at work. Hugs to you and Chresti.
	11:51pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:49 George loved to drive and he wasn't afraid. ...this is like me in my vintage little audi amongst a zillion pigmobile suvs
	11:51pm coelacanth∅: 'night Franco
	11:52pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:51 I feel the same way. Very few people have a passion for driving, or do it well, or give a shit about performance
	11:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Ida Lupino" by "Paul Bley" you can see how ida lupino would inspire music about her
	11:54pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks, jesse great show..
	11:55pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:51 maybe more than 4X the weight... here we also have a zillion insecure little boys with laughably enormous pickup trucks
	11:56pm alexandra: Thank you Jesse 💜
	11:56pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:55 There's some of those here. But mostly people buy whatever they're selling
	11:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJJJ ~
	11:59pm Blissland: Well I guess it's dinner time. Nitey nite
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jesse

The Frow Show with Jesse Jarnow: Playlist from January 23, 2024

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Grand pianos in the surf, singing frogs, hyphenated psych, outtakes, live collaging, twangy drone, old folk, and ephemeral pop.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
13th Floor Elevators	Roller Coaster	2 September 1966 Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, CA	(no label)	1966		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
David Nance and Mowed Sound	Mock the Hours	David Nance and Mowed Sound	Third Man	2024	https://davidnance.bandcamp.com/album/david-nance-mowed-sound	0:05:41 (Pop-up)
The Breeders	Divine Mascis (feat. J Mascis)	Last Splash (30th Anniversary Edition)	4AD/Rough Trade	2023	https://thebreeders.bandcamp.com/album/last-splash-30th-anniversary-edition	0:09:28 (Pop-up)
The Pheromoans	Downtown "Downtown" by "The Pheromoans"	Wyrd Psearch	Upset the Rhythm	2024	https://upsettherhythm.bandcamp.com/album/wyrd-psearch	0:12:25 (Pop-up)
Bingo Trappers	The Buffy Cola Song	Giddy Wishes	(no label)	2020	https://bingotrappers.bandcamp.com/album/giddy-wishes-album	0:14:39 (Pop-up)
Molly Lewis	Crushed Velvet "Crushed Velvet" by "Molly Lewis"	On the Lips	Jagjaguwar	2024	https://cafemolly.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-lips	0:16:56 (Pop-up)
Mali Obomsawin & Magdalena Abrego	Seeing Two	Greatest Hits	(no label)	2024	https://mali-obomsawin.bandcamp.com/album/greatest-hits	0:20:04 (Pop-up)
Magic Tuber Stringband	Days of Longing	Needlefall	Thrill Jockey	2024	https://magictuberstringband.bandcamp.com/album/needlefall	0:24:16 (Pop-up)
P.G. Six	Old Man on the Mountain "Old Man on the Mountain" by "P.G. Six"	Old Man on the Mountain 7"	Amish	2002	https://pgsix.bandcamp.com/album/old-man-on-the-mountain-single	0:28:54 (Pop-up)
The Three Night Wizards	Nwaoba "Nwaoba" by "The Three Night Wizards"	If You Want to Make a Lover: Palm Wine, Akan Blues & Early Guitar Highlife, Pt. I	Death Is Not The End	1954/2023	https://deathisnot.bandcamp.com/album/if-you-want-to-make-a-lover-palm-wine-akan-blues-early-guitar-highlife-pt-i	0:33:44 (Pop-up)
Bongos Ikwue & The Groovies ‎	I've Found A Woman	Tear Drops	EMI International	1980		0:36:23 (Pop-up)
The Roches	Sex Is For Children "Sex Is For Children" by "The Roches"	Keep On Doing	Warner Bros.	1982		0:39:25 (Pop-up)
GTO's: Girls Together Outrageously	The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes	Permanent Damage	Straight	1969		0:42:54 (Pop-up)
Fred Frith	Meditation Upon Propaganda	Propaganda	ReR Megacorp	2023	https://rermegacorp2022.bandcamp.com/album/propaganda	0:45:01 (Pop-up)
Bill Orcutt	Only At Dusk "Only At Dusk" by "Bill Orcutt"	Music For Four Guitars	Palilalia	2022	https://billorcutt.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-four-guitars	0:47:56 (Pop-up)
Ecstatic Sunshine	Tuscan "Tuscan" by "Ecstatic Sunshine"	Freckle Wars	Carpark	2006		0:50:42 (Pop-up)

The Shangri-Las	He Cried "He Cried" by "The Shangri-Las"	He Cried 7"	Red Bird	1966	Mary Weiss, 1948-2024.	1:04:04 (Pop-up)
Ruth Goller	Below My Skin "Below My Skin" by "Ruth Goller"	SKYLLUMINA	International Anthem	2024	https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/skyllumina	1:06:58 (Pop-up)
Jim White	Names Make the Name "Names Make the Name" by "Jim White"	All Hits: Memories	Drag City	2024	https://jimwhitedrums.bandcamp.com/album/all-hits-memories	1:10:26 (Pop-up)
Gercyz / Powers / Rolin	Ivory "Ivory" by "Gercyz / Powers / Rolin"	Activator	12XU	2024	https://geryczpowersrolin12xu.bandcamp.com/album/activator	1:13:39 (Pop-up)
Tilth & Wind Tide	Gather, scatter	Anemoia	(no label)	2024	https://andrewweathers.bandcamp.com/album/anemoia	1:29:52 (Pop-up)
Rich Hinman	The Raising Of A Large Barn	Memorial	Colorfield	2023	https://richhinman.bandcamp.com/album/memorial	1:42:36 (Pop-up)
Solution	Ronin "Ronin" by "Solution"		(no label)	2021	via Soundcloud	1:45:12 (Pop-up)
little hypers̵priᴛ҉ e°゜pixxicato3D°	quail song 2		(no label)	2024	via Soundcloud	1:46:25 (Pop-up)
Hyu	奇妙な雷竹の舞 (Cutie Bam-boo Dance)	Inaudible Works 1994-2008	Em	1998/2024	https://emrecords.bandcamp.com/album/inaudible-works-1994-2008	1:47:24 (Pop-up)

Maria Teriaeva/ Vadik Korolev	Merinos	Merinos	(no label)	2024	https://mariateriaeva.bandcamp.com/album/m-rinos	1:58:36 (Pop-up)
Artista di Merda	Hieronymus Bosch's BUTT MUSIC		(no label)	2023	via Soundcloud	2:01:15 (Pop-up)
生活 seikatu	新賀正 "新賀正" by "生活 seikatu"		(no label)	2024	via Soundcloud	2:03:34 (Pop-up)
O A K M I L K	,;a crater_ engulfed .my ffingernails as_ i sunk them into a pearl]'		(no label)	2024	via Soundcloud	2:08:40 (Pop-up)
Tujiko Noriko	Fossil Words "Fossil Words" by "Tujiko Noriko"	Crépuscule I & II	Editions Mego	2023	https://tujikonoriko1.bandcamp.com/album/cr-puscule-i-ii	2:10:36 (Pop-up)
Marshall Allen's Ghost Horizons	Themes	12 January 2024 Nublu, NYC	(no label)	2024		2:17:46 (Pop-up)
Hiyori	日和ヶ丘の星 "日和ヶ丘の星" by "Hiyori"		(no label)	2024	via Soundcloud	2:42:23 (Pop-up)
Lambchop	2B2 "2B2" by "Lambchop"	Democracy CD-R	(no label)	2012		2:44:11 (Pop-up)
Paul Bley	Ida Lupino "Ida Lupino" by "Paul Bley"	Open, To Love	ECM	1973		2:49:12 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:00pm ultradamno: ROKY!
	9:01pm dj jj.: roky & tommy & the gang & i welcome you to this evening's frow show!
	9:02pm Carmichael: Would recognize that electric jug anywhere
	👻 9:02pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" Hey, Jesse. Wow, what a starter!
	9:02pm tom tom the pipers son: alright let's get frow(n) greetings jesse and people...
	9:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" Elevators @ Avalon has made me think - right just that moment - they really were the most advanced band in the world. Live anyway...
	👻 9:02pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" Ho frowses!
	9:02pm Alexandra: 😎✊🏼
	9:03pm northguineahills: crackers, i have to jump back to the couch i surf. but, i just landed an apt in sunset park, so, i'll be around in feb to hear ya live again. saludos!
	👻 9:03pm PaulRobeson1924: Hi Hi Hi
	9:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" disk.yandex.com...
	👻 9:04pm cookiejarvis: a Hitchcockian goodEEEEEEeeevening to one and all.
	9:04pm northguineahills: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @9:03 i was doing an analysis of an incident near your namesake's middle school in brooklyn today...
	👻 9:05pm chresti: 2 September is my ex's birthday!
	9:06pm northguineahills: ↳ chresti @9:05 my ex's is 9/11....
	9:07pm tom tom the pipers son: neat blend there btween songs
	9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Roller Coaster" by "13th Floor Elevators" disk.yandex.com...
	👻 9:07pm PaulRobeson1924: Today is the day Paul Robeson passed on January 23, 1976
	9:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "Mock the Hours" by "David Nance and Mowed Sound" Thot might be TheBand.
	9:07pm Handy Haversack: Jesse. Jarnovians.
	👻 9:08pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:07 Yes, the jug eased us into mock the hours!
	9:08pm Carmichael: I don’t have an ex …
	9:08pm Alexandra: I read that too fast and almost said happy late bday Chresti 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
	9:08pm Chris H: This song smokes
	9:09pm tom tom the pipers son: hi chresti, that's a wonderful wording...;)
	9:10pm Chris H: No keep playing it
	9:10pm dj jj.: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:07 as the freeform gods wrote, one intentional sounding accident deserves one sloppy accident!
	👻 9:10pm chresti: ↳ Alexandra @9:08 Hi Alexandra! My bday is exactly a month before!
	9:10pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:07 did indeed have that sound
	9:11pm squinty eyes: hey from the pnw! space is the place
	9:11pm Alexandra: My ex’s is 13 days before mine Chresti 🫨
	👻 9:12pm chresti: ↳ dj jj. @9:10 made ja nervous!
	9:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ dj jj. @9:10 ha! no such things as accidents
	9:13pm Alexandra: My bday is Friday revolution rabbit tell me what the planets have in store for me
	9:14pm Carmichael: Was that Dinosaur Jr. singing about dinosaur jr?
	9:14pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 The respect and admiration of your (WFMU) peers, at the VERY least!
	👻 9:14pm PaulRobeson1924: It’s way, way past my bed time… @Alexandra: good evening, Alexandra. I can tell yer future, just look what’s in your hand
	9:14pm Corry342: Joining in for some Frow activity
	9:15pm Alexandra: Handy! Another Muriel Spark novel for me to ignore PaulR?
	👻 9:15pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Alexandra @9:15 Oh, Alexandra, baby
	👻 9:15pm chresti: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 This Friday? Happy birthday!
	9:16pm Alexandra: Thanks Chresti 😇
	9:16pm tom tom the pipers son: happy birthday alexandra...
	9:17pm dj jj.: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 happy almost-happy!
	9:18pm Alexandra: Thank you 😎😎😎💜💜💜
	9:19pm dave: Nice stuff!
	9:20pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Alexandra @9:18 I AM going to see you more before Friday, but I'll extend the first tranche of a deep supply of well wishes now. But this is just a foretaste! It's Monday! Wait, shit, it's Tuesday, isn't it? Man, time is HARD.
	9:20pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Crushed Velvet" by "Molly Lewis" this is well done and hysterical
	👻 9:20pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "Crushed Velvet" by "Molly Lewis" I love the way the whistling makes me rethink the album title here.
	9:22pm alexandra: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:20 Thank u handy. Our storage unit in queens is raising the rent so we are heading to New York probably in the spring to clear it out. Probably have some records to leave to ya n K8 if u buy us some drinks hehe
	9:22pm slugluv1313: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 Happy Birthday, Alex! 💜🔪😻🔪🖤 (same day as Angela Davis, iirc -- so cool!)
	9:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 Joyeux ♒︎Aquarian ⦿Solar Return Alexandra ! : www.facebook.com... It would take some effort & time to do up your Birth Chart, & your Solar Return (B-Day) Chart - & interpret & compare them both, frankly... But it's certainly an interesting time to be an ♒︎Aquarius.
	9:22pm Handy Haversack: ↳ alexandra @9:22 Oh. INDEED.
	9:23pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:22 (Though "buy" might be "make." And then "buy." We'll go have an evening, I'm saying. You can meet the cats.)
	9:24pm alexandra: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:22 Omg I forgot about that! Angela Davis, Wayne Gretzky, and Vince Carter. Yes I am also a political activist and sports superstar 🙄
	👻 9:24pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @9:22 You don't want to bring all your junk back, and burn it in the middle of the desert?
	9:24pm alexandra: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:22 I look forward to this every year 💜💜💜💜💜
	9:24pm alexandra: ↳ Handy Haversack @9:23 😊😊😊😊😊 deal!!!
	9:25pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:24 The Mojave does not need any more assholes doing that
	9:25pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:22 hi RRN63! indeed! and with Pluto moving into Aquarius? yikes! quite heavy -- so . . . hoping for the best, but bracing for the worst
	9:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:22 Deeply transformative ♇Pluto will be in progressive independent ♒︎Aquarius for the next 20 years - big news in Astrology land : www.facebook.com...
	👻 9:27pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @9:25 Then burn it it the middle of Wisconsin.
	9:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:25 Your un-NewAgey impression is refreshing...
	9:28pm steveo: ↳ Song: "Days of Longing" by "Magic Tuber Stringband" now this is the good stuff (good evening!)
	9:29pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:27 Think I’d rather stop by Marty’s and exchange for some pennies
	👻 9:29pm chresti: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:27 Or find a cheaper storage space
	👻 9:29pm Franco Twinkie: That's using your noggin!
	9:32pm slugluv1313: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:27 or Iowa! or wherever there is a Tr💩mp rally! (and, i will take the fall if need be -- Hell's Grannies are too "old" to give a damn about breaking the law)
	9:32pm Tommy in Neversink: ↳ Song: "Old Man on the Mountain" by "P.G. Six" Beautiful
	👻 9:34pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:32 That's what I was thinking! All those places that hate New York and Los Angeles.
	👻 9:35pm Franco Twinkie: ....and don't have anything a civilized person wants to eat.
	9:37pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Nwaoba" by "The Three Night Wizards" thought that also had characteristics of s african music...miriam makeba...
	9:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:35 i guess you don't like corn
	9:39pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:27 thank you! my knowledge is limited, but the more i learn, the more i think that we are in for a major upheaval, which could go in either a "good" (freedom, peace, acceptance, etc.) or a "bad" (oppression, dictatorships, hatred, etc.) direction . . . apparently the last time Pluto was hanging out in Aquarius, the constitution of what is now known as "the united states" was being developed, and other places on Earth were challenging monarchies, oppressive systems, etc.
	9:40pm ?: this is pure nonsense
	9:40pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Song: "Sex Is For Children" by "The Roches" This is making K8 very happy. Sometimes you want to hear the good stuff you know.
	👻 9:40pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:39 Au contraire! But it has to be fashioned into a tortilla or tamale.
	9:41pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:40 ah, right
	9:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Sex Is For Children" by "The Roches" never heard this before and less pretty than usual and i dig
	9:44pm slugluv1313: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:40 or homemade corn bread! with blue cornmeal! (which i used to be able to get in the supermarket! but have not seen it anywhere nowadays, except online)
	9:45pm alexandra: I had been buying the blue corn tortillas at Aldi thinking it was a fancy treat. It’s blue #5 or whatever. Class action lawsuit impending
	9:47pm slugluv1313: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:34 or any big city! even just seeing clips of the rallies on tv -- the racism and undiluted hatred are palpable
	👻 9:47pm cookiejarvis: 45 minutes of Frow is like three or four hours of real time. I feel like I've been all these different places.
	9:48pm slugluv1313: ↳ alexandra @9:45 oh no!!! that is despicable!
	9:48pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ cookiejarvis @9:47 feel that
	9:48pm franklinstower: orcuuuuttt hell yea
	👻 9:48pm chresti: ↳ cookiejarvis @9:47 I know what you mean, like a fast train!
	9:50pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Only At Dusk" by "Bill Orcutt" this is majestic
	9:50pm slugluv1313: ↳ cookiejarvis @9:47 YES! i am loving all of this
	9:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Well - ♇Pluto is regarded as thoroughly transformative of the matters of the sign it transits. Easy to euphemize - but it's death before regeneration. It is otoh - quite slow. It's also regarded as examining the correlates of a sign to its absolute underground foundations. (As it has the Bureaucracies & Hierarchies under ♑︎Capricorn these last 15 years.) ♒︎Aquarius is regarded as correlating to idealistic Humanism - but also Technology & scientific detachment... ☍Opposite of ♌︎Leo's Heart Ego Identity (& Monarchy) - ♒︎Aquarius represents the identity paradox of the Age in terms of the Individual & the Group. (Did I mention Tech ?) ♇Pluto to Regeneration but also Obsession. ♒︎Aquarius to Knowledge & Awareness - but also Eccentricity... Yeah I wonder how this will be.
	👻 9:51pm chresti: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:50 hi slugluv! Granny core!
	9:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Song: "The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes" by "GTO's: Girls... Zappa Producing, presenting & documenting a particular scene of individuals. But had to be more Theatrical then the actually Musical cult of the Magic Band. It's interesting enuff.
	9:54pm steveo: it's it's the frow show!!!!
	👻 9:54pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Tuscan" by "Ecstatic Sunshine" jeepers!
	10:00pm slugluv1313: ↳ chresti @9:51 hi chresti! hell yeah!
	10:03pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @9:50 yes! and when i had learned that Capricorn had been in Aquarius starting in 2008 -- the proverbial light bulb lit up, so much (bad stuff) made sense
	10:05pm Chris H: Mary's album with Greg Cartwright is an absolute all time favorite
	10:05pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:03 ♇Pluto into ♑︎Capricorn 2008 you mean. Yeah : www.astrology.com...
	10:06pm tom tom the pipers son: did joey ramone style his singing after mary weiss...
	10:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:06 Partly. Ramones & Shangri-Las both from Queens reportedly.
	👻 10:08pm cookiejarvis: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:07 of course, so is Art Garfunkel
	10:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:07 mary weiss born in jamaica qns, ramones from forest hills
	10:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:06 & Mary said Joey telling her how important TheShangri-Las were for TheRamones moved her.
	10:10pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:09 oh, did not know that
	10:11pm Blissland: tuesday and saturday seem like possibly days that I should avoid wfmu
	10:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:10 Just read it.
	10:12pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:11 ah, i think you can hear the influence
	👻 10:13pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ slugluv1313 @9:47 I had to wash my hair so it will dry before I go to bed, but yes. The political season is just starting(GAG!) And to hear fuckface strutting around like a rooster for the rest of the year doesn't sound good. It only emboldens the half-wits to march in lock step.
	👻 10:14pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:12 One of the funny things about the Shangri-Las/CBGB nexus is that the girls were so young when Shangri-Las hit that they are practically the same age as the CBs bands that hit a decade later. Joey Ramone was a couple years younger than Mary Weiss.
	10:14pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:12 GirlGroups always obvious influence on TheRamones. & TheBeatles. & the Dolls...
	👻 10:15pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): Debbie Harry and Patti Smith are actually older than Mary Weiss.
	10:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:13 MaryWeis was 15 singing 'Leadrer of the Pack' I think !
	10:15pm Blissland: My own present living hell began in 2008 and has yet to stop getting worse. But I wasn't aware of any metaphysical cause of it
	10:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:15 Crazy !
	👻 10:16pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:15 Doesn't change the influence thing, it's just interesting.
	10:16pm Blissland: Debbie is my favorite
	10:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:14 yes was just posting that
	👻 10:20pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:15 If memory serves me, 15 is the perfect age for a girl to romanticise an older hoodlum.
	10:20pm slugluv1313: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:05 OOPS! yes -- brain dead at this point 🤯🤯 (long, frustrating day)
	10:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:20 - after all.
	👻 10:21pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): Lenny Kaye, also older than Mary Weiss. I'm super intrigued by a story that he reassembled the Shangri-Las for a reunion show at CBGB and some recording sessions for Sire that were never released. Where are they now? In some vault somewhere? Or just lost? Here's a decent account: spectropop.com...
	10:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:14 i guess in all different ways, but have never associated beatles and girl groups but ' i wanna hold your hand' could have been a girl group song
	10:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:20 It's a lot to keep straight. I kind of make a practice of it.
	10:22pm Handy Haversack: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:20 Days. They're the WORST.
	10:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:20 - after all (to Franco I mean).
	👻 10:22pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @10:22 you're really riled up about time tonight, Handy.
	10:23pm slugluv1313: ↳ Handy Haversack @10:22 hi Handy! sometimes, yes -- other times, not so bad
	10:23pm alexandra: I had yesterday off so I keep thinking it’s Monday and it definitely has been kind of a Garfield day for some mysterious reason
	10:23pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:22 I ain't fer it, I'm agin it!
	10:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:21 Beatles did 'Boys' & 'Chains' for example. Of course they were aware of everything & absorbing it, as Masters of fields generally are.
	👻 10:24pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @10:23 "Days" is a pretty good Television song, though.
	👻 10:24pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:21 To me, I Wanna Hold Your Hand sounds sweet and uncomplicated
	👻 10:24pm chresti: ↳ Blissland @10:15 I filed for bankruptcy in 2008
	👻 10:24pm Ken From Hyde Park: Daze > Days
	👻 10:25pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:24 Sparks sexes it up a little.
	10:25pm Blissland: ↳ chresti @10:24 I went bankrupt in 2012 myself. I wonder if something happened metaphysically in 2006 or 2008 that led to the way things are now
	👻 10:26pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:25 I Wanna Hold Your Gland?
	10:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:24 I think 'She Loves You' is the one tho - the most perfect piece of Candy ever confected.
	10:26pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:24 well maybe the shangrilas wouldn't have done it, but another girl group?
	👻 10:27pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Handy Haversack @10:23 For some reason you're making me think abt those great LCD lyrics: Everybody's singing the same song It goes "tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight" I never realized these artists thought so much about dying
	👻 10:28pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:26 They really should have done that, right? No, just their delivery. They sound a little older and more worldly wise on their cover. Plus the sweeping strings just sound a little dirty.
	10:28pm Robm: guys if the big orange monster gets back in the white house, what is going to happen to stations like WFMU, and i wonder if the orange monster can prevent us from listening to international broadcasting like the bbc? sorry if this all sounds paranoid.
	👻 10:29pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:26 But on that first album Don't Bother Me, is the yang to the ying. A perfect reality check to all those screaming children.
	10:29pm Blissland: ↳ Robm @10:28 Not at all, I have considered that myself. That will be the least of our worries though
	👻 10:29pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Song: "Names Make the Name" by "Jim White" wow looking forward to this. thanks for playing it, jesse.
	10:29pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Ivory" by "Gercyz / Powers / Rolin" digging
	10:30pm Robm: ↳ Robm @10:28 might ask the same question during kens show tomorrow
	10:30pm Bill K: Hi ho Frowsketeers
	10:31pm Blissland: Bankruptcy was truly the least of things that have happened to me since 2008. It has been a steady spiral into hell. Not a single thing has improved since then
	10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:29 George's first Harrisong. Written when he was ill. Well - I think TheBeatles & especially Lennon - but the whole Liverpool experience was about the play of dark & light. & that early in Pop Music - it was about how much subject you could communicate in a surface facile form. Then Dylan crossed over & let it all out of the bag.
	10:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:31 *subtext (not subject ...close.)
	10:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:31 - take TheBeatles' version of 'Money' from then. An R&B cover - but the sly irony is transmuted into Class anguish & actual rage. In 1963.
	10:34pm Robm: ↳ Blissland @10:29 blissland might ask ken the same question tomorrow morning during his show
	10:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:33 to taxman
	10:35pm Robm: ↳ Alexandra @9:13 happy early birthday alex
	10:35pm Blissland: ↳ Robm @10:34 It's gonna be bad either way. If he loses the magats will riot everywhere. But now the democrats are repeating everything they screwed up in 2016.
	10:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:35 - in just three years.
	10:37pm alexandra: ↳ Robm @10:35 Thank you !!
	10:37pm Robm: ↳ alexandra @10:37 your welcome
	10:37pm brycepunk1: That echo-y guitar is giving me such Throbbing Gristle vibes. Love it.
	👻 10:38pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:31 I will dare by The Replacements is the perfect answer song to Don't Bother Me.
	10:38pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:36 have you listened to the podcast i linked to... lots of beatles info
	10:38pm Robm: ↳ Blissland @10:35 that’s what i think too
	10:39pm Robm: slugluv if you are still around hello to you too
	10:40pm Blissland: ↳ Robm @10:38 I blame them for depriving us of president Sanders, and now again they have squeezed out everyone but the neo-liberal biden. There is no party of the people in amerikkka
	10:40pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:38 Not yet ! Tho I've listened a lot to two or three Beatle-themed podcasts - 'Fab 4 Free 4 All' & 'Something About The Beatles'. '500 Songs' looks good !
	10:40pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:38 Just noticed your new to me picture Mushroom therapy! I wrote a a poem Sunday about how my friend who sends me mushrooms had to go to the post office twice to fix the address this last time. Read it at open mic. I had them laughing and then crying. I will email it to you
	👻 10:42pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @10:40 That's endemic to San Francisco at this moment.
	10:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Blissland @10:40 Pretty much the case - but I hope we don't make the same mistake as Germany in the 1930s & divide the Vote & let the Fascists win. In fact - it's pretty much what happened in the USA in 1968 after RFK was murded & the Democrats divided agaisnts themselves. & frankly - here we are.
	10:43pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:38 answer song reminds me a story i related earlier... very loud obnoxious violent teens on bus, a woman tells them to shut up in so many words, they responded with a 'sick my dick' she replied 'suck your mothers dick'...we got off at same stop and had a little talk
	10:43pm Robm: ↳ alexandra @10:40 alexandra have you ever listened to the moth radio show? you would be great
	10:43pm Katharsis: How now frow?
	👻 10:43pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): ↳ Robm @10:28 in 2016 i must have listened to the opening set of @efd's post-election show a dozen times. wfmu.org...
	10:44pm alexandra: ↳ Robm @10:43 They didn’t hire me as an intern in 2014 so I stopped listening I am IMMATURE
	10:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:40 you can join his patreon for a dollar a month, you get extras
	10:45pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:42 It would be a really bitter pill for me to swallow if I had to vote for biden strategically, especially since I hate his guts, and especially since I am for the most part in agreement with rfk jr.
	👻 10:45pm Listener Bryan (the Professor): kids i'm going to bed. wake comes early. thanks, jj, for so many 2024 items to put on my wish list. xoxo.
	10:45pm Robm: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:43 will listen to that show tomorrow @Alexandra their loss
	10:46pm alexandra: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:45 Good night Prof!
	10:46pm Robm: ↳ Listener Bryan (the Professor) @10:45 so am i bryan
	10:47pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:42 So yeah, that's probably exactly what will happen. Who you choose to blame I guess is a personal preference. I choose to blame the democrats because they doing the same thing
	10:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Blissland @10:45 Well - I don't think I agree with rfk the Junior on too very much. Biden is what we knew he was - a Party regular & a little too Militant (as in fond of the Military). But in other terms has exceeded my expectations, actually. It's absurd to agonize who is better between Drumpf & Biden. Spare us all that, if you please.
	👻 10:49pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @10:44 Immature - I don't know about that. The logical response to an untouchable media phenom that won't look your way is 'Go suck your mothers dick!' But you're a nice girl, and nice girls don't talk that way(HA!)
	10:51pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:48 No question trump is worse than biden, for america and for the world. And if I got my information about rfk jr.'s ideas from cnn, I wouldn't like him either. He has a facebook entry that seems to be free of censorship
	10:52pm slugluv1313: ↳ Robm @10:39 hiya Robm! yup, still lurking about :)
	10:53pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @10:49 You should talk to Justin about how many times I say something or someone can suck my dick on a daily basis 🫣🫨
	👻 10:53pm Franco Twinkie: I know THAT!
	10:54pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:48 did not read recent paul krugman column on public opinion and the economy, but it seemed to be about opinion shifting away from negative view, krugman has reported for a while that the economy is in good shape
	10:54pm Blissland: I'm hearing the program
	10:54pm Robm: ↳ slugluv1313 @10:52 figured that good for you
	10:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Blissland @10:51 Well - I'm on farceborg all day every day. But you know - if it's 'Free' - you're the Product. Zuckerbird is a little too loose with the fascists & the misinformation for the Uber-richest & largest Publisher in the history of the human race. That is - he's taking no responsibility whatsoever for the truth of what's on there - or accountability for its damage.
	10:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ alexandra @10:53 poetic licentiousness
	10:57pm Robm: well this is my last comment before i go to bed, i stay away from cable news and listen to news radio, less koolade drinking
	10:59pm Corry342: signing off too. Have a good frow tonight
	10:59pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:55 I had a look today at rfk's feed there, and I am with him on pretty much everything. Except some of the people he praises. I don't mind if I disagree with anyone, I just want everyone to be well informed, including myself. Which is never easy. Or, it's hard to know who to trust
	11:01pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Blissland @10:59 i think the rest of rfk jr's family have had a good look at him and they've practically disowned him
	11:02pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:01 Yeah that seems to be true
	11:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Every Reporting Media outlet knows who butters which side of their bread. So really any source has to be put in context. It's also happened that - how bread gets buttered in general has changed seismically. More & More is owned by Fewer & Fewer. Which is maybe the central fact of our time.
	11:04pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:03 That's all by design of course.
	11:07pm Blissland: If rfk turns out to be full of shit, then shame on me. But I know that joe biden is just another neo-liberal scumbag like all the ones that have been dragging us down since reagan. It will just continue to be endless wars with bottomless budgets and ever increasing wealth disparity. The problem now is, the alternative is outright fascism.
	11:08pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:03 a different type of "monoculture" information monoculture
	11:09pm Handy Haversack: Crashing out here, too. Thanks, Jesse. You done done it right.
	11:09pm dj jj.: thanks for jamming; y'all gonna miss the sweet live tape i'm about to drop, though!
	11:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:03 ...a simple model of - a News & Media (& see right away how Information & Entertainment are too entwined in how I even have to phrase this) provides you with Truth & Facts - you appreciate that & listen ~ read ~ watch - & Advertisers & Sponsors know that & support them - so there's money to do all this ...you know it's much more top down than that now than it was before. Republicans Deregulated FCC controls on how many Newspapers or TV Stations can be owned by one person or Corporation. The Fairness Act was abolished. & so on.
	11:10pm chresti: I love this! Thanks Jesse, gots to hit the hay Gnight everyone
	11:10pm dj jj.: ↳ dj jj. @11:09 (after this tune)
	11:11pm Blissland: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:10 Yeah I think that was reagan, and then some of the worst legislation was enacted under clinton. They're all scum
	11:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ↳ dj jj. @11:09 Apologies. Giving up setting the world right - & just digging Musics for the last hour. :D
	11:13pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:10 can't help but think of soviet union and the ending of animal farm where the animals look to farmer an d pig and can't tell the difference
	👻 11:14pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Blissland @11:07 I might be talking out of my ass, but I think RFK might still be under the delusion there is a splinter of Camelot worth hanging onto in this sea of swirling garbage.
	11:16pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:14 the butt music was a few tracks ago...;)
	11:16pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:14 I'm not sure how confident he is that he can a) win and b) get anything meaningful done. But hopefully more confident than I am. I'm certainly willing to let him try
	👻 11:18pm Franco Twinkie: Why not! If he has a shred of entitled confidence, let him put it to good use.
	11:20pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:18 I would be very surprised if it's all an act, in his case. Of course it's an uphill climb. He has pitted himself against every powerful vested interest in the world.
	11:21pm Harry Corvair: Catching this groove Best show, DJ JJ Themes by Marshall Allen's Ghost Horizons (12 January 2024 Nublu, NYC)
	11:21pm tom tom the pipers son: rfk jr's views on covid seemed pretty wacked, stuff relating to jews, i forget the details
	11:22pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 I'm not aware of what he has said about Jews?
	11:24pm tom tom the pipers son: ny times ul 20, 2023 — Kennedy Jr. that the Covid-19 virus was engineered to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people has stirred accusations of antisemitism and racism ...
	11:24pm Blissland: I believe he said that he would support israel unconditionally, which I don't. But that I got second hand.
	11:26pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:24 yeah if he said that, it doesn't sound right. But I do believe most of the official narrative about covid-19 is a web of lies
	11:27pm alexandra: This is awesome Jesse !!!!
	11:27pm Blissland: The only thing real about it is the virus itself
	👻 11:28pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Blissland @11:20 Sure he has. Most voters are probably only vaguely aware of the Kennedy legacy. When his father was assassinated, America was in a different tub of hot shit. Bobby Kennedy was beloved by the down trodden( In California at least ) The idea of a viable left hadn't been completely squashed.
	11:28pm tom tom the pipers son: that buried guitar is really neat
	11:30pm farmer george∅: oink
	11:31pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:28 Yeah and I'm pretty sure rfk is the only one who had a chance of beating nixon. I liked Eugene McCarthy a lot, but he would have lost. Of course the democrats picked the least charismatic of all of them, which pretty much guaranteed a victory for nixon. They keep repeating that pattern
	👻 11:33pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:24 Are there any statistics to suggest this is worth talking about?
	11:33pm Blissland: Now if you look today at what people call "leftist" and "liberal", it's actually in general to the right of Eisenhower
	11:33pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ farmer george∅ @11:30 was that his name? hiya coelacanth
	11:34pm Blissland: Sanders would have been a moderate in 1968, and he still is
	👻 11:34pm Franco Twinkie: Typical Democratic strategy. Will those blockheads ever learn?
	11:34pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:33 times says its unfounded
	11:35pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:34 if they don't learn this year then we will likely lose the republic.
	11:35pm coelacanth∅: hey tom tom... i don't remember. i just chose george for the puppetmaster behind shithead reagan, the bush family.
	11:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Blissland @11:34 yes and a moderate in europe, chomsky calls him a roosevelt democrat
	11:37pm Blissland: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:36 For all his flaws, fdr was great for america. I can't imagine what would have happened without him
	11:37pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:35 and prescott before him, i remember all that stuff on dave emory
	👻 11:38pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:36 How so? Did he implement a WPA project?
	11:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:38 just in terms of values just like there were rockefeller republicans
	11:40pm coelacanth∅: apparently my family on my father's side always voted democrat until FDR passed on making my grandfather a supreme court judge. they all started voting republican then...rational adults that they were...
	11:41pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:39 roosevelt dems, an old term not invented by chomsky
	11:41pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:40 rather an extreme reaction
	👻 11:41pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:39 But still, theorizing about what he might do is so much hot air if the guy looses.
	11:42pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:41 fucking childish
	11:42pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 Is that a cooper mini?
	11:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:40 jack smith has a film about wendell wilkie...no president
	11:43pm coelacanth∅: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:42 ...i voted for someone i couldn't stand personally for mayor of new paltz a few years back because i thought he was a good mayor.
	11:44pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:41 but it all one has to go on, not theorizing just evaluating
	👻 11:45pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:44 Okay, I need to calm down. It's only January.
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:42 yes,a real one! (as opposed to the reintroduced "mini cooper" which is bullshit) this was George Harrison's. there's a good picture in the www of it alongside Lennon's obese painted rolls royce
	11:47pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:45 i probably heard chomsky say that in 2016
	11:47pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:46 Oh cool. Yeah the so-called minis now are mini in name only.
	11:47pm Blissland: I think my nissan weighs less than a new mini
	11:48pm coelacanth∅: external-content.duckduckgo.com...
	👻 11:48pm Franco Twinkie: I will say this and then I'm going to bed: Chresti and I saw Lambchop at The Troubadour years ago. There were more people on stage than in the audience. Good night everyone.
	11:49pm alexandra: Franco it’s 8:48
	11:49pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:48 ahaha that's rich
	11:49pm Blissland: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:48 pleasant dreams
	👻 11:50pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ alexandra @11:49 I'm more that twice your age - you'll find out.
	11:50pm tom tom the pipers son: see ya franco..
	11:51pm Blissland: The rolls is like 4x the size of the mini
	11:51pm alexandra: ↳ Franco Twinkie @11:50 😇 just being a brat. I’m only not in bed because I am at work. Hugs to you and Chresti.
	11:51pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:49 George loved to drive and he wasn't afraid. ...this is like me in my vintage little audi amongst a zillion pigmobile suvs
	11:51pm coelacanth∅: 'night Franco
	11:52pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:51 I feel the same way. Very few people have a passion for driving, or do it well, or give a shit about performance
	11:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Ida Lupino" by "Paul Bley" you can see how ida lupino would inspire music about her
	11:54pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks, jesse great show..
	11:55pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Blissland @11:51 maybe more than 4X the weight... here we also have a zillion insecure little boys with laughably enormous pickup trucks
	11:56pm alexandra: Thank you Jesse 💜
	11:56pm Blissland: ↳ coelacanth∅ @11:55 There's some of those here. But mostly people buy whatever they're selling
	11:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJJJ ~
	11:59pm Blissland: Well I guess it's dinner time. Nitey nite
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Jesse

The Frow Show with Jesse Jarnow: Playlist from January 23, 2024

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