WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from January 14, 2024

Listener comments!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: helllooooooo
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there, Jeff, and all other listeners!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ hyde @9:00 helloooo, hyde.
	🥁 9:01am chresti: Morning Jef and d'OUTers!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Hello hello hello hyde Andrew in Toronto chresti!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ chresti @9:01 Morning, crestikins!
	9:02am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:01 who's the furry friend?
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: Yay listener james from westwood!
	🥁 9:03am DJ Peter: Good morning all! Pleased by the feeling of idly wondering what's in store today! (is there a word for this feeling? enjoying the feeling that you are feeling?)
	🥁 9:03am hyde: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:01 hi AiT!
	🥁 9:03am Yvang: Hi Jeff and drummer streamers!
	9:04am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Yvang @9:03 Hi Yvang!
	🥁 9:05am chresti: Morning Andrew in TOkins! @Jeff, that's Isabella, queen of the porch!
	🥁 9:06am chresti: 40F here in the SGV
	9:08am AlanR: We’re actually having a bit of a heat wave in normally moderate Mexico City. Going up to 75F today. Buenos días, amigxs!
	🥁 9:08am Listener Gregory: Good morning, D:Oubters! Remember, the colon is silent. (Though you could add a click if you want.)
	9:10am Jeff Golick: Good morn, DJ Peter (like you, I am wondering what's in store...). Greetings, Yvang, AlanR in sunny Mexico, Listener Gregory!
	🥁 9:12am Yvang: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:04 Hi Andrew!
	🥁 9:12am WR: Hello Jeff and folks.
	9:12am fred: Greetings Jeff and all I'll be ironing and washing most of the time, I'm afraid
	🥁 9:13am doctorjazz: Good mornng Outies!
	🥁 9:14am doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:08 I prefer my colon be silent, but it isn't always so...
	9:15am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @9:13 Any good shows this week?
	9:16am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @9:14 Morning, doc!
	9:16am Jeff Golick: WR! fred, ironing and washing! doctorjazz!
	🥁 9:16am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Roberta" by "Kommando Raumschiff Zitrone" The first time ever I saw your face I didn't see your face because you were hidden by strands of hair.
	🥁 9:17am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @9:14 I hear you! (No, not literally, fortunately.)
	9:21am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:16 The song is kind of hidden, too!
	9:21am Jeff Golick: doc, were your ears burning yesterday? In a very surprise occurrence, I ran into Sam Segal at shul and we spoke of you.
	🥁 9:31am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Introduction / Listaj goro ne žali be’ara / Inter... Bulgarians?
	9:33am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:31 "PJEV, a female a cappella vocal quintet from the Balkans, that preserves and cherishes traditional vocal music from Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina"
	🥁 9:34am doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:16 Hi, AiT! (Project here; training puppy Laila!
	9:38am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @9:34 That`s great! Could you please send a picture of her to my email address?
	9:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:05 Belated greets to Queen Isabella!
	🥁 9:39am doctorjazz: ↳ fred @9:15 Nothing immediate, but seeing Juliana Hatfield on the 28th, and Tyshawn Sorey Feb 2. Right now, puppy training is the main activity!
	🥁 9:40am WR: ↳ Song: "Introduction / Listaj goro ne žali be’ara / Inter... www.redhookrecords.com... details on Red Hook site.
	🥁 9:40am doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:21 That's very cool! He's not too far from you and your Shul, I believe...
	🥁 9:43am chresti: ↳ doctorjazz @9:39 Congratulations on your new puppy!
	🥁 9:44am doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:21 I hope nothing too bad...
	🥁 9:45am doctorjazz: ↳ chresti @9:43 Thanks-it's harder than I remember (been years since I did this...)
	🥁 9:45am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:33 That was awfully nice.
	9:47am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:45 Yeah I really like it. It's a continuous 40-min suite, I felt bad cutting it off early. That Red Hook label does very interesting work!
	9:47am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @9:44 Not at all - just the opposite!
	🥁 9:49am tom tom the pipers son: gooodmorning jeff and people.... overslept
	9:50am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @9:39 I'm jealous (I worship Juliana Hatfield)
	9:51am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:49 Good morning, tom tom the pipers son. This set isn't getting anyone up early.
	🥁 9:51am doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:38 Just sent you a few pics, Andrew!
	🥁 9:52am hyde: ↳ Song: "Great Northern, 34428" by "Olivia Block" this one sounds weirdly Husker Du to me
	9:52am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @9:52 The chilly menace?
	🥁 9:52am doctorjazz: ↳ fred @9:50 I don't know her that well; have one older album, Hey Babe, and the recent ELO covers album, but I do like her.
	🥁 9:54am hyde: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:52 seems like she's from Chicago. Maybe it's a midwest thing
	9:55am TDK60: Hello Jeff.
	9:55am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @9:52 Become What You Are is my fave, but there's personal history there
	🥁 9:55am doctorjazz: Jeff, did you get to any Winter Jazz Fest shows?
	🥁 9:56am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ hyde @9:54 the name windy city comes from politics not weather...windy...like idiot wind
	9:57am Jeff Golick: ↳ TDK60 @9:55 Heyo, TDK60!
	9:58am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, jazzbos, the serendipitous listener, the jazz-curious, and all.
	9:58am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @9:55 Nah, sadly. Looking forward to Sam's reports. I've never really jumped into the winter jazz fest fray.
	9:59am fred: I should see David Grubbs this week, not sure what to expect, part of the appeal
	9:59am Jeff Golick: ↳ Sem @9:58 Sem, how do you do! Great to see you.
	9:59am adamdoesit: Good morning, Jeff G and listeners. It's a frightening world, but at least it's got winsome music in it. doc, you got a new puppy? Muzzle tov!
	10:00am Jeff Golick: ↳ fred @9:59 That would be an interesting show, for sure. Do report back if you make it out?
	10:00am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 ...and fine folks like you! Welcome, adamdoesit.
	10:01am Sem: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 *muzzle tov" I snorted w/ delight, adamdoesit.
	🥁 10:04am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" I am going to pay close attention to Jeff's explanation of the cover of this record during his announcements.
	10:05am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Sem @10:01 Howdy, Sem!
	10:05am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ TDK60 @9:55 Hi there, TDK60!
	10:06am fred: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 I saw a rehearsal, really a work session this week, really interesting. I even asked a question during the Q&A session, about notation. Turns out the choreographer likes Laban for analysis, but is Benesh all the way for his own work. How's that for dance nerding out? (It's more for your lovely wife, I guess)
	🥁 10:07am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" beautiful has a brian eno feel
	🥁 10:07am doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 ;-)
	10:10am adamdoesit: ↳ fred @10:06 fred, it's true, I don't know Laban from labneh! But I do know that, if you order an LP from Juliana Hatfield's Bandcamp page, she hand-writes a personalized thank-you on the receipt.
	10:12am Sem: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @10:05 Good morning, AiT!
	10:12am zzz: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" really enjoying this! morning ppl ✌️
	10:13am TDK60: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" This Jenya K. piece sounds like some sort of suite. Hi Andrew.
	10:15am zzz: ↳ TDK60 @10:13 right! i was just thinking about how every time it feels like it’s winding down another totally lovely turn comes 😄
	10:15am Jeff Golick: ↳ TDK60 @10:13 "The album "Walk: A Pedestrian Guide" is a three-part piece written especially for the project "Ostrovsky and Flowers" – an audio performance of the Mobile Art Theater and the podcast "Zhut’" ("Creepiness"). However, only fragments of this music made it into the actual performance, so TOPOT is now releasing the full version of this extensive work." from: tawpot.bandcamp.com...
	10:16am Wendy del Formaggio: Good morning, Jeff and D:Oers. I've really been enjoying this set, especially the Jenya Kukoverov piece.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: Lovely set!
	🥁 10:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:07 oh look at that...
	10:17am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:15 Thanks for the background work, Jeff.
	10:17am Jeff Golick: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:16 Wendy! Good morning to you, my Drummer fam! (Love your avi, btw.)
	10:17am ?: Jenya K was great
	10:17am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:17 You'll never guess where I got the idea...
	🥁 10:18am tom tom the pipers son: ha! spinning on the fly....
	10:19am Doug Schulkind: G’morning!
	10:20am Jeff Golick: Sir Doug! How do you do!
	🥁 10:20am Listener Gregory: The set even has a reprise!
	10:21am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:17 Thanks, Jeff! It's long been my favorite Nancy panel. After a very quick internet search, I saw someone had made it into a .gif. Very nicely, too.
	🥁 10:22am hyde: the second time the first time ever i saw your face
	10:23am Doug Schulkind: I do! I do!
	10:29am fred: ↳ adamdoesit @10:10 I already have hand-written lyrics. I met her once (minor alps tour), but just froze
	🥁 10:30am tom tom the pipers son: recently discovered sylvian's 'blemish' recently (here?)...a new favorite thanks for the kind mention
	🥁 10:32am tom tom the pipers son: prince? the lady looks skeptical
	🥁 10:32am Listener Gregory: I love to hear Jeff talk didactic to me!
	🥁 10:33am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz ~ ...waking slow but hearing & gratefully appreciating all...
	🥁 10:34am DJ Peter: Fun fun fun! Jeff, thanks for making us relisten and rehear! I've just realized for the first time that Wynton Kelly is still employing some of the licks and scales that he plays on "Freddie Freeloader," that he would later strip from his vocabulary. Cooil!
	🥁 10:34am doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @10:10 Any recommendations of Hatfield albums (I already ordered Become What You Are)?
	10:35am Jeff Golick: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:33 Up and at 'em, Revolution Rabbit Nov63!
	10:35am StringOFperils: Workin', Steamin', Pfrincin'
	🥁 10:36am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Nicely recorded stereo (good separation, no dead center space!
	10:36am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Well, this is lovely! But the poor woman on the cover looks chilly. Someone should give her a shirt or a wrap or both.
	🥁 10:36am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Speaking of Frances: here's the mono cover of this album (which is subtly but I think significantly different from the now-better-known stereo cover): www.discogs.com...
	10:36am zzz: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" underrated player LOVE hearing Mobley
	10:37am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ DJ Peter @10:36 So she DID have a garment to wear! I feel better now.
	10:37am StringOFperils: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:36 The ring wear is gradually sheathing her in the warm modesty of time
	10:37am Jeff Golick: StringOFperils! zzz!
	🥁 10:38am DJ Peter: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:37 Haha!
	10:38am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @10:36 Ah yes, she gets a dress in that one!
	🥁 10:39am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:38 The message I take away is: "stereo: you think it's more, but it's less. Unless it's more."
	10:40am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ StringOFperils @10:37 Haha, true. I'm not worried about her modesty. She can run around nekkid all she wants. I guess it's that it's January and I'm in Vermont and it's chilly, and I'm projecting...
	10:40am adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Jeff, you're in danger of giving didacticism a good name with this segment.
	🥁 10:40am doctorjazz: I know mono is considered "better" these days, but i really loved that stereo Miles.
	🥁 10:40am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @10:39 had the thought that mono is sculptural, stereo...painterly
	10:41am StringOFperils: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:40 Not exactly Miami here in Toronto either.
	10:42am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @10:34 That's a tough one, because she has quite a range. Her "Sings Olivia Newton-John" is good if you like ONJ (or even if you don't) I love Made in China, Total System Failure, Pussycat, but that's because I like her harsher side. Only Everything is great (early, just after Become What You Are)
	10:43am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ StringOFperils @10:41 Oy gevalt. I can imagine. And now I know you're my second listener who is in Canada. Yay! It's not required, but I do like knowing where y'all are.
	10:45am Andrew Waterloo: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:43 I'm a sometimes listener from Canada. That Friendly Giant intro reminds me of how I found that show scary
	🥁 10:45am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Wes Montgomery with the Wynton Kell... Amazing what Wes could do playing with his right thumb (instead of a pick, fingers, or a combinbation of the 2 most guitarists use). Not much of those octaves he became known for on this (and seemed to becomed trapped into overusing); great chording!
	10:45am fred: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:43 I apologize for being a French listener who's not allowed cheese anymore
	🥁 10:46am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:40 That's intriguing! Doc: I of course have both mixes and enjoy both!
	10:47am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Andrew Waterloo @10:45 Hooray! Thanks for the info, Andrew. That Friendly Giant intro was recorded by listener / Wrecking Crew member Paul from Owen Sound, who listens with his companion, Leah. So, that means SOFp is Canadian Listener 3, and you are CL 4.
	🥁 10:47am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" Dig the "Eighty One" groove!
	10:47am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ fred @10:45 Aww, fred, an apology is owed TO you for not being able to eat cheese anymore. Is it a lactose thing? If so, I have good news for you.
	10:48am Jeff Golick: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:47 (Oddly enough, I played CL 4 last week.)
	10:48am StringOFperils: ↳ Andrew Waterloo @10:45 Rusty, the chicken in the bag that hung on a nail, used to set me on edge.
	10:48am Jeff Golick: Hey there, Andrew Waterloo!
	10:48am fred: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:47 A cholesterol thing
	10:48am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:48 Andrew in Waterloo has an album?
	10:49am Jeff Golick: Tony really stretching things.
	10:49am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ fred @10:48 Oh boo. I'm sorry, my friend.
	🥁 10:49am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" Have this set, great stuff!
	🥁 10:49am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:49 Yeah: in and out!
	10:50am Jeff Golick: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:48 Not sure re Andrew Waterloo, but I was winking at this: www.discogs.com...
	10:50am Stork: Howdy OutPeeps! I'd walk a camel for some Miles! Plyed something from the Plugged Nickel just last week (i think)
	10:51am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:50 Oh! I do not know this music. I think I listened to most of your show last Sunday, so I probably heard it.
	10:51am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Stork @10:50 Hey Stork!
	10:51am Wendy del Formaggio: Alright, I gotta make some breakfast and eat it. Going into lurking mode in 3... 2... 1...
	10:53am Jeff Golick: Stoooooooooooork! Happy breakfasting, Wendy!
	10:54am fred: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:49 I have weird genes (maybe that drew me to WFMU) so I have extreme reactions to mundane stuff
	10:54am Stork: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:51 Ma cousine!
	🥁 10:55am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" The tune is still recognizable in this version. Later on, I think it would only be heard in the opening phrase.
	🥁 10:55am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" With Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, and Tony Williams!
	10:56am Stork: ↳ fred @10:45 No fromage? Quelle domage!! There's always Glenn Passaic - there to drown your every sorrow!
	10:56am zzz: TW vibe shift
	10:57am StringOFperils: ↳ Stork @10:56 Drano your every sorrow
	🥁 10:57am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @10:46 mono being more "object" and "actual" sound where stereo is more illusionistic sound, and ironically flatter, also, in painting there's a right and left, in sculpture, not really because you can walk around it
	10:57am Jeff Golick: ↳ zzz @10:56 Ha, YES.
	🥁 10:57am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" Hancock lays out a lot, leaving Shorter space.
	10:58am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @10:57 Felt like he was trying to finding his way under Shorter then kind of gave up following Wayne.
	10:59am Stork: ↳ StringOFperils @10:57 Much better put, StringOFperils!
	🥁 10:59am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @10:57 this very nice shorter, for a while playing in a compressed narrow range
	🥁 11:01am Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:55 The tune was recognizable when I wrote this, but Wayne and Herbie have gone Elsewhere.
	11:01am fred: ↳ Stork @10:56 Glen Passaic isn't forbidden for my specific condition, so it's safe, right? "safe" might not be the right word
	🥁 11:06am doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:57 I'd disagree with that chatacterization-nothing more real or "actual" about musicians lined up in the center of a soundstage with some depth but no lateral separation. Well recorded stereo, on good playback gear, (to my ears, of course) sounds much more real. In the end, all recording is just a representation of a real performance, with the brain filling in some of the missing information.
	🥁 11:06am tom tom the pipers son: glen passaic is "safe" in the medieval sense like trepanning
	11:06am Doug Schulkind: So blues.
	🥁 11:09am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @11:06 isn't what's what's projected, more object like, from the perspective of listener with mono
	🥁 11:12am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:09 for me, you get more of a 'thing' to deal with mono friom which you parse out the space internally
	11:14am StringOFperils: Stereo eavesdrops on a conversation. Mono tells you what's what to your face.
	🥁 11:16am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:12 mono more of a 'mind' listening, stereo..."ears". two kinds of spaces, one internal, the other external
	11:16am Dean: I'm with doctorjazz. The illusions generated by good stereo reproduction can be stunning. CIMP and Water Lily Acoustics tend to record exclusively acoustic instruments, sometimes solo performers. Stereo done right puts the room in which the recording was made--a church, a studio--into the space in which you're listening. Aptly, see this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/interactive/2024/ken-fritz-greatest-stereo-auction-cost/
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:09 I know some hear it that way (and prefer it); to me, it's just different. Sometimesthe mono shows up things you don't hear in the stereo, other times the stereo has more "information", varies from recording to recording.
	11:18am Dean: I do enjoy mono recordings from the early days of recording, e.g., vocal or piano recitals, opera. That's why I subscribe to Ward Marston's catalog, every new release.
	🥁 11:18am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" I think the Shorter solo was better in the 65 version!
	11:19am TDK60: ↳ Dean @11:18 Dean. Yeah. "Beatles 65" I like better in the mono version. Punchier, thicker.
	🥁 11:19am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:16 i guess i am expressing a preference which i didn't mean to at first
	11:21am Jeff Golick: Greets, Dean!
	🥁 11:21am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @11:16 like i said didn't mean to express a preference with the analogy just a difference
	🥁 11:23am Listener Gregory: I know I'm in the minority, but I feel that the beauty of my Edison cylinders has never been surpassed.
	11:23am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:18 Yeah.
	11:25am TDK60: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:23 L.G. Yep.
	11:25am zzz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" definitely “booty”
	11:25am zzz: was just thinking about Steve Grossman, listened to him and Dave Liebman absolutely ripping together with Elvin Jones on “Fancy Free” on EJ’s Live at the Lighthouse yesterday.
	🥁 11:25am DJ Peter: Harmony Holiday posted this today: x.com...
	11:25am Jeff Golick: ↳ zzz @11:25 Yeah, the sound is...not Edison cylinder quality.
	11:26am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @11:25 !!!
	11:27am Dean: In fact, Marston has issued comps of transcribed Edison cylinders. They're marvelous. https://www.marstonrecords.com/products/edison-trials
	🥁 11:27am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:57 Yeah I get that! With painting you look at the brush strokes, with sculpture it's "a whole" -- OTOH you can walk around a sculpture...
	🥁 11:28am doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 Didn't take it personally, just had to comment (to my ears, as I noted-other "golden ear" listeners disagree, and that's fine).
	🥁 11:29am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @11:25 For the record, I take shit all the time.
	🥁 11:29am DJ Peter: Well I like the mono Beatles because... they mixed them that way first and then left it to the engineers to make the stereo mix. And sometimes they missed a fade or a pan or (crazily) used different performances (aborted guitar licks on "I Call Your Name," Paul's voice cracking -- albeit exquisitely -- on "If I Fell").
	🥁 11:30am doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @11:27 On Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg this past Thursday, he played a recording from a cylinder that surprised me, quite good sounding!
	🥁 11:30am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:29 Hahaha That's so honest! What percentage of people who say they don't take shit are lying to themselves?
	🥁 11:31am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @11:29 Didn't George Martin insist that the CD issues of the early Beatles records be mono for just that reason? That's the way they were recorded.
	11:33am Dean: I'm also a big fan of humble stereo systems, relatively affordable gear combined for synergy. A friend long ago had a pair of small, floor-standing Mordaunt-Short speakers, a VPI turntable, a B&K stereo amp (iirc), and a Nakamichi CD player. It was a joy to listen to.
	🥁 11:33am doctorjazz: ↳ TDK60 @11:19 I think "Beatles Stereo" has a lot to do with the preference for mono-they were recorded in Mono (the mix the Beatles, and Brits, cared about), then the stereo mix was done (for US listeners), highlighting extreme separation, right and left, no center instruments, sort of a gimmick to highlight the right/left abilities of stereo (I grew up with the stereo mixes, still like them, but I can hear why they can be annoying).
	🥁 11:34am DJ Peter: One other weird thing about stereo is headphones vs. speakers: if the sock cymbal is recorded on the left then I prefer to listen in headphones.speakers tell me i'm in the audience and headphones tell me i'm in the band. and if the hats are on the left I feel like I'm not in the audience. But it's contextual right? If it's a recording that's clearly a studio creation and not mimicking the sound of a live band (say, "Tomorrow Never Knows") then I don't care, pan the drums all around if you want to!
	🥁 11:34am Doug Schulkind: Nice use of Miles at one point in the soundtrack for the film American Fiction, which I highly recommend.
	🥁 11:34am tom tom the pipers son: @ dean: that article... have shared this before, an anecdote about stravinsky, when someone was shocked when they saw stravinsky only had a cheap record play to listen to music, he said "people with million dollar audio systems have two dollar ears, i have million dollar ears"
	11:34am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:34 OH yeah really want to get to that movie.
	🥁 11:35am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:31 Yeah, the early "stereo" releases were often "electronically rechanneled for stereo"
	🥁 11:36am DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @11:33 I definitely agree that the earliest stereo releases were often exaggerated and artificial. Stereo is great for a symphony orchestra, hearing the strings spread out before you.
	🥁 11:36am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @11:28 i'm glad we had a convo
	🥁 11:36am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "No blues" by "Mat Maneri Trio" This is great, but the later Miles versions were more transgressive than this performance.
	🥁 11:36am doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @11:34 There are some recordings made specifically for headphones, to mitigate those issues, binaural recordings, which compensate for not having any room sound (which changes what gets to your ears)
	🥁 11:37am Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:36 YES! I finally got to say "transgressive" in a comment! It has taken a long time.
	🥁 11:37am doctorjazz: Gotta run, family birthday party (for a 1 year old, I'm sure she'll appereciate it). Thanks, Jeff!
	🥁 11:37am DJ Peter: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:34 REALLY want to see that film! Hasn't shown in my neighborhood yet. (Read the flawed book "Yellowface" this last year, wanting "American Fiction" as a more scathing look at similar themes.)
	11:37am Dean: I can't handle headphones at all. I don't like affixing things to my head or ears, and the spatial effects are disorienting to me (except, I suppose, on those recordings doctorjazz mentions). I bet Stravinsky was right!
	11:39am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @11:37 I hope Laila does!
	11:39am Dean: "Heavy is the head that wears the headphones."
	11:39am StringOFperils: ↳ Dean @11:37 He was Rites
	🥁 11:39am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @11:37 Yeah I don't love headphones but... they are required by the radio vocation!
	🥁 11:39am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @11:37 God help you!
	🥁 11:39am DJ Peter: ↳ StringOFperils @11:39 chef's kiss
	11:39am TDK60: ↳ doctorjazz @11:33 Righto, doctorjazz.
	11:39am Dean: Teacher: Igor, what season is it? Igor: Spring. Teacher: Rite!
	11:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ StringOFperils @11:39 damn yo
	11:40am Dean: Wait, does UM wear headphones when he streams?
	🥁 11:40am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:39 moondog: what about spring rites...
	11:41am fred: ↳ Dean @11:37 My workplace address is Stravinsky Place (no need for a number, it's the only place on the place)
	11:42am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:34 What a wonderful show! Thanks, Jeff!
	11:42am zzz: ↳ Song: "Dance to Summon" by "Isach Skeidsvoll Septet" ohhh yeah! great track. drummer stream hit
	🥁 11:43am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ zzz @11:42 am digging tool
	11:43am Dean: Don't tell me, fred. You drive a Firebird to work?
	11:43am StringOFperils: Sweet
	🥁 11:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never out the door without headphones. Just too much boredom & bad music out there. & far too much interesting stuff to listen to.
	11:45am TDK60: Don't like headphones much. Too close.
	11:47am fred: ↳ Dean @11:43 I don't drive. The firebird was renovated and doing well but froze over this week. I hope it wasn't damaged, we'll see in the coming weeks
	🥁 11:48am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:40 enough about human rights...?
	🥁 11:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Once you got good sound right up yer ears - doesn't always have to be so loud either. Not into it @ home tho - except maybe for a movie. I suppose there is an introvert antisocial aspect to wearing them out.
	11:48am Jeff Golick: Get your Stork on at das Club, here: wfmu.org...
	11:50am adamdoesit: ↳ Dean @11:40 I like in-ears for walking the dogs, but miss being able to pull them off and hang them around my neck for conversation, like in the old Walkman days. I can groove out on a nice set of cans at home, too, but miss feeling the music on and in my body. Ears are for hearing, but live music touches more than the ears alone.
	🥁 11:51am tom tom the pipers son: thanks jeff, always dig the show...:)
	🥁 11:51am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Dance to Summon" by "Isach Skeidsvoll Septet" That wasn't bad, but the cover would stop me from buying a physical copy of this record.
	11:52am TDK60: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:51 Haha Listener G. Whereas the John Dankworth Orch LP cover just pulls me in.
	11:52am StringOFperils: What is that, the produce aisle?
	11:52am Dean: Agreed, adamdoesit. Live music can be a palpable experience.
	🥁 11:53am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Earbudz never interested me. Yes - they reckon Hearing evolved as a specialized quality of the sense of Touch.
	🥁 11:54am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Altisidora" by "John Dankworth Orchestra" 👍🏼
	11:54am TDK60: Well, time to say "merci" again, Jeff G. Fine selections this morn.
	11:55am Stork: Thanks Jeff. Fine fine music, all on a winter's day.
	🥁 11:55am Doug Schulkind: ↳ Dean @11:40 Dean, there's no way Uncle Michael isn't wearing something on or in his ears. Now whether or not he's wearing pants is another story.
	🥁 11:56am tom tom the pipers son: ears, body, yes but musical concepts are just that, internal concepts, which can't be pointed out externally
	11:56am zzz: thx JeffG!
	11:56am Stork: ↳ Song: "Twilight (Elliott Smith)" by "Barbara Manning" LOVE this rekkid - her first in a while - heard she's going on tour in '24
	11:56am adamdoesit: hanks for the tunes, Jeff G. They touch me inly and OUTly.
	11:56am Jeff Golick: ↳ Stork @11:56 so good
	🥁 11:57am WR: Thank you! Jeff!
	🥁 11:57am Listener Gregory: Thanks a lot, Jeff. Going out to brave the elements before the snow comes later. I'm beating the flute!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: Thanks for the thanks, y'all! You make the show!
	🥁 11:57am hyde: ↳ Stork @11:56 she actually played in Boston not too long ago, warming up for Galaxie 500
	🥁 11:57am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Stork @11:56 i think she was touring with codeine in the fall
	🥁 11:58am hyde: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:57 ah right, it was Codeine not Galaxie 500
	11:58am listener james from westwood: Helluvan ending, helluva show!
	11:58am Woo: Quite enjoyed the show today. Thank you!
	🥁 11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	11:59am StringOFperils: So good that it Hz. Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:59am hyde: mixing up my old Chris Brokaw bands
	🥁 11:59am hyde: thanks!
	🥁 11:59am Doug Schulkind: So glad this is not the first time ever I heard your show, Jeff!
	🥁 12:00pm Yvang: Thanks Jeff great show!
	12:00pm Juli: High Noon.

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January 14, 2024: The second time ever.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:29 (Pop-up)
The Entourage Music & Theatre Ensemble	Priestess	Ceremony of Dreams: Studio Sessions and Outtakes 1972-1977	Tompkins Square	1977/2018		0:06:42 (Pop-up)
David Toop	Do the Bathosphere "Do the Bathosphere" by "David Toop"	New and Rediscovered Musical Instruments	Obscure	1975		0:10:48 (Pop-up)
Kommando Raumschiff Zitrone	Roberta	First Time Ever I Saw Your Face	Quincunx Sound Recordings	2006		0:13:55 (Pop-up)
PJEV - Kit Downes - Hayden Chisholm	Introduction / Listaj goro ne žali be’ara / Interlude I / Ova brda i puste doline / Interlude II	Medna Roso	Red Hook Records	2023		0:25:30 (Pop-up)
David Sylvian & Stephan Mathieu	I Can't Pretend to Care	Wandermüde	Samadhi Sound	2012		0:40:05 (Pop-up)
Olivia Block	Great Northern, 34428	Innocent Passage in the Territorial Sea	Room40	2021		0:49:21 (Pop-up)
Jenya Kukoverov	Act II - Clouds (In C)	Walk: A Pedestrian Guide	ТОПОТ	2023		0:56:06 (Pop-up)
Bruce Brubaker	By this River "By this River" by "Bruce Brubaker"	Eno Piano	InFiné	2023		1:14:56 (Pop-up)
Kommando Raumschiff Zitrone	Roberta (reprise)	First Time Ever I Saw Your Face	Quincunx Sound Recordings	2006		1:18:12 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					1:22:10 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	Pfrancing [aka No Blues]	Someday My Prince Will Come	Columbia	1961		1:30:17 (Pop-up)
Wes Montgomery with the Wynton Kelly Trio	No Blues	Maximum Swing: The Unissued 1965 Half Note Recordings	Resonance Records	1965/2023		1:39:06 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	No Blues "No Blues" by "Miles Davis"	The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 - December 22, 3d set	Columbia	1965/1992		1:45:16 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	No Blues "No Blues" by "Miles Davis"	Live in Europe 1969: The Bootleg Series, vol. 2	Columbia	1969/2013	1969.07.26 - Juan-Les-Pins	2:03:33 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	No Blues "No Blues" by "Miles Davis"	1970.04.12 - Fillmore West	[boot]	1970		2:18:38 (Pop-up)
Mat Maneri Trio	No blues "No blues" by "Mat Maneri Trio"	So What?	hatOLOGY	1999		2:26:24 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					2:35:05 (Pop-up)
Isach Skeidsvoll Septet	Dance to Summon	Dance to Summon	Ultraääni Records	2023		2:37:05 (Pop-up)
John Dankworth Orchestra	Altisidora	Composition with Colour: Live 1971	British Progressive Jazz	1971/2022	(Happy birthday, Kenny Wheeler.)	2:49:42 (Pop-up)
Barbara Manning	Twilight (Elliott Smith)	Charm of Yesterday… Convenience of Tomorrow	Ba Da Bing Records	2023		2:54:31 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:58:06 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: helllooooooo
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there, Jeff, and all other listeners!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ hyde @9:00 helloooo, hyde.
	🥁 9:01am chresti: Morning Jef and d'OUTers!
	9:01am Jeff Golick: Hello hello hello hyde Andrew in Toronto chresti!
	9:01am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ chresti @9:01 Morning, crestikins!
	9:02am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:01 who's the furry friend?
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all!!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: Yay listener james from westwood!
	🥁 9:03am DJ Peter: Good morning all! Pleased by the feeling of idly wondering what's in store today! (is there a word for this feeling? enjoying the feeling that you are feeling?)
	🥁 9:03am hyde: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:01 hi AiT!
	🥁 9:03am Yvang: Hi Jeff and drummer streamers!
	9:04am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Yvang @9:03 Hi Yvang!
	🥁 9:05am chresti: Morning Andrew in TOkins! @Jeff, that's Isabella, queen of the porch!
	🥁 9:06am chresti: 40F here in the SGV
	9:08am AlanR: We’re actually having a bit of a heat wave in normally moderate Mexico City. Going up to 75F today. Buenos días, amigxs!
	🥁 9:08am Listener Gregory: Good morning, D:Oubters! Remember, the colon is silent. (Though you could add a click if you want.)
	9:10am Jeff Golick: Good morn, DJ Peter (like you, I am wondering what's in store...). Greetings, Yvang, AlanR in sunny Mexico, Listener Gregory!
	🥁 9:12am Yvang: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:04 Hi Andrew!
	🥁 9:12am WR: Hello Jeff and folks.
	9:12am fred: Greetings Jeff and all I'll be ironing and washing most of the time, I'm afraid
	🥁 9:13am doctorjazz: Good mornng Outies!
	🥁 9:14am doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:08 I prefer my colon be silent, but it isn't always so...
	9:15am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @9:13 Any good shows this week?
	9:16am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @9:14 Morning, doc!
	9:16am Jeff Golick: WR! fred, ironing and washing! doctorjazz!
	🥁 9:16am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Roberta" by "Kommando Raumschiff Zitrone" The first time ever I saw your face I didn't see your face because you were hidden by strands of hair.
	🥁 9:17am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @9:14 I hear you! (No, not literally, fortunately.)
	9:21am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @9:16 The song is kind of hidden, too!
	9:21am Jeff Golick: doc, were your ears burning yesterday? In a very surprise occurrence, I ran into Sam Segal at shul and we spoke of you.
	🥁 9:31am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Introduction / Listaj goro ne žali be’ara / Inter... Bulgarians?
	9:33am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:31 "PJEV, a female a cappella vocal quintet from the Balkans, that preserves and cherishes traditional vocal music from Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina"
	🥁 9:34am doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:16 Hi, AiT! (Project here; training puppy Laila!
	9:38am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ doctorjazz @9:34 That`s great! Could you please send a picture of her to my email address?
	9:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ chresti @9:05 Belated greets to Queen Isabella!
	🥁 9:39am doctorjazz: ↳ fred @9:15 Nothing immediate, but seeing Juliana Hatfield on the 28th, and Tyshawn Sorey Feb 2. Right now, puppy training is the main activity!
	🥁 9:40am WR: ↳ Song: "Introduction / Listaj goro ne žali be’ara / Inter... www.redhookrecords.com... details on Red Hook site.
	🥁 9:40am doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:21 That's very cool! He's not too far from you and your Shul, I believe...
	🥁 9:43am chresti: ↳ doctorjazz @9:39 Congratulations on your new puppy!
	🥁 9:44am doctorjazz: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:21 I hope nothing too bad...
	🥁 9:45am doctorjazz: ↳ chresti @9:43 Thanks-it's harder than I remember (been years since I did this...)
	🥁 9:45am Listener Gregory: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:33 That was awfully nice.
	9:47am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:45 Yeah I really like it. It's a continuous 40-min suite, I felt bad cutting it off early. That Red Hook label does very interesting work!
	9:47am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @9:44 Not at all - just the opposite!
	🥁 9:49am tom tom the pipers son: gooodmorning jeff and people.... overslept
	9:50am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @9:39 I'm jealous (I worship Juliana Hatfield)
	9:51am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:49 Good morning, tom tom the pipers son. This set isn't getting anyone up early.
	🥁 9:51am doctorjazz: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @9:38 Just sent you a few pics, Andrew!
	🥁 9:52am hyde: ↳ Song: "Great Northern, 34428" by "Olivia Block" this one sounds weirdly Husker Du to me
	9:52am Jeff Golick: ↳ hyde @9:52 The chilly menace?
	🥁 9:52am doctorjazz: ↳ fred @9:50 I don't know her that well; have one older album, Hey Babe, and the recent ELO covers album, but I do like her.
	🥁 9:54am hyde: ↳ Jeff Golick @9:52 seems like she's from Chicago. Maybe it's a midwest thing
	9:55am TDK60: Hello Jeff.
	9:55am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @9:52 Become What You Are is my fave, but there's personal history there
	🥁 9:55am doctorjazz: Jeff, did you get to any Winter Jazz Fest shows?
	🥁 9:56am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ hyde @9:54 the name windy city comes from politics not weather...windy...like idiot wind
	9:57am Jeff Golick: ↳ TDK60 @9:55 Heyo, TDK60!
	9:58am Sem: Good morning, Jeff, jazzbos, the serendipitous listener, the jazz-curious, and all.
	9:58am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @9:55 Nah, sadly. Looking forward to Sam's reports. I've never really jumped into the winter jazz fest fray.
	9:59am fred: I should see David Grubbs this week, not sure what to expect, part of the appeal
	9:59am Jeff Golick: ↳ Sem @9:58 Sem, how do you do! Great to see you.
	9:59am adamdoesit: Good morning, Jeff G and listeners. It's a frightening world, but at least it's got winsome music in it. doc, you got a new puppy? Muzzle tov!
	10:00am Jeff Golick: ↳ fred @9:59 That would be an interesting show, for sure. Do report back if you make it out?
	10:00am Jeff Golick: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 ...and fine folks like you! Welcome, adamdoesit.
	10:01am Sem: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 *muzzle tov" I snorted w/ delight, adamdoesit.
	🥁 10:04am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" I am going to pay close attention to Jeff's explanation of the cover of this record during his announcements.
	10:05am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Sem @10:01 Howdy, Sem!
	10:05am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ TDK60 @9:55 Hi there, TDK60!
	10:06am fred: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 I saw a rehearsal, really a work session this week, really interesting. I even asked a question during the Q&A session, about notation. Turns out the choreographer likes Laban for analysis, but is Benesh all the way for his own work. How's that for dance nerding out? (It's more for your lovely wife, I guess)
	🥁 10:07am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" beautiful has a brian eno feel
	🥁 10:07am doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @9:59 ;-)
	10:10am adamdoesit: ↳ fred @10:06 fred, it's true, I don't know Laban from labneh! But I do know that, if you order an LP from Juliana Hatfield's Bandcamp page, she hand-writes a personalized thank-you on the receipt.
	10:12am Sem: ↳ Andrew in Toronto @10:05 Good morning, AiT!
	10:12am zzz: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" really enjoying this! morning ppl ✌️
	10:13am TDK60: ↳ Song: "Act II - Clouds (In C)" by "Jenya Kukoverov" This Jenya K. piece sounds like some sort of suite. Hi Andrew.
	10:15am zzz: ↳ TDK60 @10:13 right! i was just thinking about how every time it feels like it’s winding down another totally lovely turn comes 😄
	10:15am Jeff Golick: ↳ TDK60 @10:13 "The album "Walk: A Pedestrian Guide" is a three-part piece written especially for the project "Ostrovsky and Flowers" – an audio performance of the Mobile Art Theater and the podcast "Zhut’" ("Creepiness"). However, only fragments of this music made it into the actual performance, so TOPOT is now releasing the full version of this extensive work." from: tawpot.bandcamp.com...
	10:16am Wendy del Formaggio: Good morning, Jeff and D:Oers. I've really been enjoying this set, especially the Jenya Kukoverov piece.
	🥁 10:16am doctorjazz: Lovely set!
	🥁 10:17am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:07 oh look at that...
	10:17am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:15 Thanks for the background work, Jeff.
	10:17am Jeff Golick: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:16 Wendy! Good morning to you, my Drummer fam! (Love your avi, btw.)
	10:17am ?: Jenya K was great
	10:17am Jeff Golick: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:17 You'll never guess where I got the idea...
	🥁 10:18am tom tom the pipers son: ha! spinning on the fly....
	10:19am Doug Schulkind: G’morning!
	10:20am Jeff Golick: Sir Doug! How do you do!
	🥁 10:20am Listener Gregory: The set even has a reprise!
	10:21am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:17 Thanks, Jeff! It's long been my favorite Nancy panel. After a very quick internet search, I saw someone had made it into a .gif. Very nicely, too.
	🥁 10:22am hyde: the second time the first time ever i saw your face
	10:23am Doug Schulkind: I do! I do!
	10:29am fred: ↳ adamdoesit @10:10 I already have hand-written lyrics. I met her once (minor alps tour), but just froze
	🥁 10:30am tom tom the pipers son: recently discovered sylvian's 'blemish' recently (here?)...a new favorite thanks for the kind mention
	🥁 10:32am tom tom the pipers son: prince? the lady looks skeptical
	🥁 10:32am Listener Gregory: I love to hear Jeff talk didactic to me!
	🥁 10:33am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ Good ⦿Sunday FMUvianz ~ ...waking slow but hearing & gratefully appreciating all...
	🥁 10:34am DJ Peter: Fun fun fun! Jeff, thanks for making us relisten and rehear! I've just realized for the first time that Wynton Kelly is still employing some of the licks and scales that he plays on "Freddie Freeloader," that he would later strip from his vocabulary. Cooil!
	🥁 10:34am doctorjazz: ↳ adamdoesit @10:10 Any recommendations of Hatfield albums (I already ordered Become What You Are)?
	10:35am Jeff Golick: ↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:33 Up and at 'em, Revolution Rabbit Nov63!
	10:35am StringOFperils: Workin', Steamin', Pfrincin'
	🥁 10:36am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Nicely recorded stereo (good separation, no dead center space!
	10:36am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Well, this is lovely! But the poor woman on the cover looks chilly. Someone should give her a shirt or a wrap or both.
	🥁 10:36am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Speaking of Frances: here's the mono cover of this album (which is subtly but I think significantly different from the now-better-known stereo cover): www.discogs.com...
	10:36am zzz: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" underrated player LOVE hearing Mobley
	10:37am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ DJ Peter @10:36 So she DID have a garment to wear! I feel better now.
	10:37am StringOFperils: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:36 The ring wear is gradually sheathing her in the warm modesty of time
	10:37am Jeff Golick: StringOFperils! zzz!
	🥁 10:38am DJ Peter: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:37 Haha!
	10:38am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @10:36 Ah yes, she gets a dress in that one!
	🥁 10:39am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:38 The message I take away is: "stereo: you think it's more, but it's less. Unless it's more."
	10:40am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ StringOFperils @10:37 Haha, true. I'm not worried about her modesty. She can run around nekkid all she wants. I guess it's that it's January and I'm in Vermont and it's chilly, and I'm projecting...
	10:40am adamdoesit: ↳ Song: "Pfrancing [aka No Blues]" by "Miles Davis" Jeff, you're in danger of giving didacticism a good name with this segment.
	🥁 10:40am doctorjazz: I know mono is considered "better" these days, but i really loved that stereo Miles.
	🥁 10:40am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @10:39 had the thought that mono is sculptural, stereo...painterly
	10:41am StringOFperils: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:40 Not exactly Miami here in Toronto either.
	10:42am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @10:34 That's a tough one, because she has quite a range. Her "Sings Olivia Newton-John" is good if you like ONJ (or even if you don't) I love Made in China, Total System Failure, Pussycat, but that's because I like her harsher side. Only Everything is great (early, just after Become What You Are)
	10:43am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ StringOFperils @10:41 Oy gevalt. I can imagine. And now I know you're my second listener who is in Canada. Yay! It's not required, but I do like knowing where y'all are.
	10:45am Andrew Waterloo: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:43 I'm a sometimes listener from Canada. That Friendly Giant intro reminds me of how I found that show scary
	🥁 10:45am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Wes Montgomery with the Wynton Kell... Amazing what Wes could do playing with his right thumb (instead of a pick, fingers, or a combinbation of the 2 most guitarists use). Not much of those octaves he became known for on this (and seemed to becomed trapped into overusing); great chording!
	10:45am fred: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:43 I apologize for being a French listener who's not allowed cheese anymore
	🥁 10:46am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:40 That's intriguing! Doc: I of course have both mixes and enjoy both!
	10:47am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Andrew Waterloo @10:45 Hooray! Thanks for the info, Andrew. That Friendly Giant intro was recorded by listener / Wrecking Crew member Paul from Owen Sound, who listens with his companion, Leah. So, that means SOFp is Canadian Listener 3, and you are CL 4.
	🥁 10:47am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" Dig the "Eighty One" groove!
	10:47am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ fred @10:45 Aww, fred, an apology is owed TO you for not being able to eat cheese anymore. Is it a lactose thing? If so, I have good news for you.
	10:48am Jeff Golick: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:47 (Oddly enough, I played CL 4 last week.)
	10:48am StringOFperils: ↳ Andrew Waterloo @10:45 Rusty, the chicken in the bag that hung on a nail, used to set me on edge.
	10:48am Jeff Golick: Hey there, Andrew Waterloo!
	10:48am fred: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:47 A cholesterol thing
	10:48am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:48 Andrew in Waterloo has an album?
	10:49am Jeff Golick: Tony really stretching things.
	10:49am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ fred @10:48 Oh boo. I'm sorry, my friend.
	🥁 10:49am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" Have this set, great stuff!
	🥁 10:49am DJ Peter: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:49 Yeah: in and out!
	10:50am Jeff Golick: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:48 Not sure re Andrew Waterloo, but I was winking at this: www.discogs.com...
	10:50am Stork: Howdy OutPeeps! I'd walk a camel for some Miles! Plyed something from the Plugged Nickel just last week (i think)
	10:51am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Jeff Golick @10:50 Oh! I do not know this music. I think I listened to most of your show last Sunday, so I probably heard it.
	10:51am Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Stork @10:50 Hey Stork!
	10:51am Wendy del Formaggio: Alright, I gotta make some breakfast and eat it. Going into lurking mode in 3... 2... 1...
	10:53am Jeff Golick: Stoooooooooooork! Happy breakfasting, Wendy!
	10:54am fred: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:49 I have weird genes (maybe that drew me to WFMU) so I have extreme reactions to mundane stuff
	10:54am Stork: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @10:51 Ma cousine!
	🥁 10:55am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" The tune is still recognizable in this version. Later on, I think it would only be heard in the opening phrase.
	🥁 10:55am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" With Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, and Tony Williams!
	10:56am Stork: ↳ fred @10:45 No fromage? Quelle domage!! There's always Glenn Passaic - there to drown your every sorrow!
	10:56am zzz: TW vibe shift
	10:57am StringOFperils: ↳ Stork @10:56 Drano your every sorrow
	🥁 10:57am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ DJ Peter @10:46 mono being more "object" and "actual" sound where stereo is more illusionistic sound, and ironically flatter, also, in painting there's a right and left, in sculpture, not really because you can walk around it
	10:57am Jeff Golick: ↳ zzz @10:56 Ha, YES.
	🥁 10:57am doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" Hancock lays out a lot, leaving Shorter space.
	10:58am Jeff Golick: ↳ doctorjazz @10:57 Felt like he was trying to finding his way under Shorter then kind of gave up following Wayne.
	10:59am Stork: ↳ StringOFperils @10:57 Much better put, StringOFperils!
	🥁 10:59am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @10:57 this very nice shorter, for a while playing in a compressed narrow range
	🥁 11:01am Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @10:55 The tune was recognizable when I wrote this, but Wayne and Herbie have gone Elsewhere.
	11:01am fred: ↳ Stork @10:56 Glen Passaic isn't forbidden for my specific condition, so it's safe, right? "safe" might not be the right word
	🥁 11:06am doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:57 I'd disagree with that chatacterization-nothing more real or "actual" about musicians lined up in the center of a soundstage with some depth but no lateral separation. Well recorded stereo, on good playback gear, (to my ears, of course) sounds much more real. In the end, all recording is just a representation of a real performance, with the brain filling in some of the missing information.
	🥁 11:06am tom tom the pipers son: glen passaic is "safe" in the medieval sense like trepanning
	11:06am Doug Schulkind: So blues.
	🥁 11:09am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @11:06 isn't what's what's projected, more object like, from the perspective of listener with mono
	🥁 11:12am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:09 for me, you get more of a 'thing' to deal with mono friom which you parse out the space internally
	11:14am StringOFperils: Stereo eavesdrops on a conversation. Mono tells you what's what to your face.
	🥁 11:16am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:12 mono more of a 'mind' listening, stereo..."ears". two kinds of spaces, one internal, the other external
	11:16am Dean: I'm with doctorjazz. The illusions generated by good stereo reproduction can be stunning. CIMP and Water Lily Acoustics tend to record exclusively acoustic instruments, sometimes solo performers. Stereo done right puts the room in which the recording was made--a church, a studio--into the space in which you're listening. Aptly, see this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/interactive/2024/ken-fritz-greatest-stereo-auction-cost/
	🥁 11:16am doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:09 I know some hear it that way (and prefer it); to me, it's just different. Sometimesthe mono shows up things you don't hear in the stereo, other times the stereo has more "information", varies from recording to recording.
	11:18am Dean: I do enjoy mono recordings from the early days of recording, e.g., vocal or piano recitals, opera. That's why I subscribe to Ward Marston's catalog, every new release.
	🥁 11:18am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" I think the Shorter solo was better in the 65 version!
	11:19am TDK60: ↳ Dean @11:18 Dean. Yeah. "Beatles 65" I like better in the mono version. Punchier, thicker.
	🥁 11:19am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:16 i guess i am expressing a preference which i didn't mean to at first
	11:21am Jeff Golick: Greets, Dean!
	🥁 11:21am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @11:16 like i said didn't mean to express a preference with the analogy just a difference
	🥁 11:23am Listener Gregory: I know I'm in the minority, but I feel that the beauty of my Edison cylinders has never been surpassed.
	11:23am Jeff Golick: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:18 Yeah.
	11:25am TDK60: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:23 L.G. Yep.
	11:25am zzz: ↳ Song: "No Blues" by "Miles Davis" definitely “booty”
	11:25am zzz: was just thinking about Steve Grossman, listened to him and Dave Liebman absolutely ripping together with Elvin Jones on “Fancy Free” on EJ’s Live at the Lighthouse yesterday.
	🥁 11:25am DJ Peter: Harmony Holiday posted this today: x.com...
	11:25am Jeff Golick: ↳ zzz @11:25 Yeah, the sound is...not Edison cylinder quality.
	11:26am Jeff Golick: ↳ DJ Peter @11:25 !!!
	11:27am Dean: In fact, Marston has issued comps of transcribed Edison cylinders. They're marvelous. https://www.marstonrecords.com/products/edison-trials
	🥁 11:27am DJ Peter: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @10:57 Yeah I get that! With painting you look at the brush strokes, with sculpture it's "a whole" -- OTOH you can walk around a sculpture...
	🥁 11:28am doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:21 Didn't take it personally, just had to comment (to my ears, as I noted-other "golden ear" listeners disagree, and that's fine).
	🥁 11:29am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @11:25 For the record, I take shit all the time.
	🥁 11:29am DJ Peter: Well I like the mono Beatles because... they mixed them that way first and then left it to the engineers to make the stereo mix. And sometimes they missed a fade or a pan or (crazily) used different performances (aborted guitar licks on "I Call Your Name," Paul's voice cracking -- albeit exquisitely -- on "If I Fell").
	🥁 11:30am doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @11:27 On Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg this past Thursday, he played a recording from a cylinder that surprised me, quite good sounding!
	🥁 11:30am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:29 Hahaha That's so honest! What percentage of people who say they don't take shit are lying to themselves?
	🥁 11:31am Listener Gregory: ↳ DJ Peter @11:29 Didn't George Martin insist that the CD issues of the early Beatles records be mono for just that reason? That's the way they were recorded.
	11:33am Dean: I'm also a big fan of humble stereo systems, relatively affordable gear combined for synergy. A friend long ago had a pair of small, floor-standing Mordaunt-Short speakers, a VPI turntable, a B&K stereo amp (iirc), and a Nakamichi CD player. It was a joy to listen to.
	🥁 11:33am doctorjazz: ↳ TDK60 @11:19 I think "Beatles Stereo" has a lot to do with the preference for mono-they were recorded in Mono (the mix the Beatles, and Brits, cared about), then the stereo mix was done (for US listeners), highlighting extreme separation, right and left, no center instruments, sort of a gimmick to highlight the right/left abilities of stereo (I grew up with the stereo mixes, still like them, but I can hear why they can be annoying).
	🥁 11:34am DJ Peter: One other weird thing about stereo is headphones vs. speakers: if the sock cymbal is recorded on the left then I prefer to listen in headphones.speakers tell me i'm in the audience and headphones tell me i'm in the band. and if the hats are on the left I feel like I'm not in the audience. But it's contextual right? If it's a recording that's clearly a studio creation and not mimicking the sound of a live band (say, "Tomorrow Never Knows") then I don't care, pan the drums all around if you want to!
	🥁 11:34am Doug Schulkind: Nice use of Miles at one point in the soundtrack for the film American Fiction, which I highly recommend.
	🥁 11:34am tom tom the pipers son: @ dean: that article... have shared this before, an anecdote about stravinsky, when someone was shocked when they saw stravinsky only had a cheap record play to listen to music, he said "people with million dollar audio systems have two dollar ears, i have million dollar ears"
	11:34am Jeff Golick: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:34 OH yeah really want to get to that movie.
	🥁 11:35am DJ Peter: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:31 Yeah, the early "stereo" releases were often "electronically rechanneled for stereo"
	🥁 11:36am DJ Peter: ↳ doctorjazz @11:33 I definitely agree that the earliest stereo releases were often exaggerated and artificial. Stereo is great for a symphony orchestra, hearing the strings spread out before you.
	🥁 11:36am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @11:28 i'm glad we had a convo
	🥁 11:36am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "No blues" by "Mat Maneri Trio" This is great, but the later Miles versions were more transgressive than this performance.
	🥁 11:36am doctorjazz: ↳ DJ Peter @11:34 There are some recordings made specifically for headphones, to mitigate those issues, binaural recordings, which compensate for not having any room sound (which changes what gets to your ears)
	🥁 11:37am Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:36 YES! I finally got to say "transgressive" in a comment! It has taken a long time.
	🥁 11:37am doctorjazz: Gotta run, family birthday party (for a 1 year old, I'm sure she'll appereciate it). Thanks, Jeff!
	🥁 11:37am DJ Peter: ↳ Doug Schulkind @11:34 REALLY want to see that film! Hasn't shown in my neighborhood yet. (Read the flawed book "Yellowface" this last year, wanting "American Fiction" as a more scathing look at similar themes.)
	11:37am Dean: I can't handle headphones at all. I don't like affixing things to my head or ears, and the spatial effects are disorienting to me (except, I suppose, on those recordings doctorjazz mentions). I bet Stravinsky was right!
	11:39am fred: ↳ doctorjazz @11:37 I hope Laila does!
	11:39am Dean: "Heavy is the head that wears the headphones."
	11:39am StringOFperils: ↳ Dean @11:37 He was Rites
	🥁 11:39am DJ Peter: ↳ Dean @11:37 Yeah I don't love headphones but... they are required by the radio vocation!
	🥁 11:39am Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @11:37 God help you!
	🥁 11:39am DJ Peter: ↳ StringOFperils @11:39 chef's kiss
	11:39am TDK60: ↳ doctorjazz @11:33 Righto, doctorjazz.
	11:39am Dean: Teacher: Igor, what season is it? Igor: Spring. Teacher: Rite!
	11:39am Jeff Golick: ↳ StringOFperils @11:39 damn yo
	11:40am Dean: Wait, does UM wear headphones when he streams?
	🥁 11:40am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @11:39 moondog: what about spring rites...
	11:41am fred: ↳ Dean @11:37 My workplace address is Stravinsky Place (no need for a number, it's the only place on the place)
	11:42am Andrew in Toronto: ↳ Jeff Golick @11:34 What a wonderful show! Thanks, Jeff!
	11:42am zzz: ↳ Song: "Dance to Summon" by "Isach Skeidsvoll Septet" ohhh yeah! great track. drummer stream hit
	🥁 11:43am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ zzz @11:42 am digging tool
	11:43am Dean: Don't tell me, fred. You drive a Firebird to work?
	11:43am StringOFperils: Sweet
	🥁 11:44am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never out the door without headphones. Just too much boredom & bad music out there. & far too much interesting stuff to listen to.
	11:45am TDK60: Don't like headphones much. Too close.
	11:47am fred: ↳ Dean @11:43 I don't drive. The firebird was renovated and doing well but froze over this week. I hope it wasn't damaged, we'll see in the coming weeks
	🥁 11:48am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:40 enough about human rights...?
	🥁 11:48am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Once you got good sound right up yer ears - doesn't always have to be so loud either. Not into it @ home tho - except maybe for a movie. I suppose there is an introvert antisocial aspect to wearing them out.
	11:48am Jeff Golick: Get your Stork on at das Club, here: wfmu.org...
	11:50am adamdoesit: ↳ Dean @11:40 I like in-ears for walking the dogs, but miss being able to pull them off and hang them around my neck for conversation, like in the old Walkman days. I can groove out on a nice set of cans at home, too, but miss feeling the music on and in my body. Ears are for hearing, but live music touches more than the ears alone.
	🥁 11:51am tom tom the pipers son: thanks jeff, always dig the show...:)
	🥁 11:51am Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Dance to Summon" by "Isach Skeidsvoll Septet" That wasn't bad, but the cover would stop me from buying a physical copy of this record.
	11:52am TDK60: ↳ Listener Gregory @11:51 Haha Listener G. Whereas the John Dankworth Orch LP cover just pulls me in.
	11:52am StringOFperils: What is that, the produce aisle?
	11:52am Dean: Agreed, adamdoesit. Live music can be a palpable experience.
	🥁 11:53am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Earbudz never interested me. Yes - they reckon Hearing evolved as a specialized quality of the sense of Touch.
	🥁 11:54am DJ Peter: ↳ Song: "Altisidora" by "John Dankworth Orchestra" 👍🏼
	11:54am TDK60: Well, time to say "merci" again, Jeff G. Fine selections this morn.
	11:55am Stork: Thanks Jeff. Fine fine music, all on a winter's day.
	🥁 11:55am Doug Schulkind: ↳ Dean @11:40 Dean, there's no way Uncle Michael isn't wearing something on or in his ears. Now whether or not he's wearing pants is another story.
	🥁 11:56am tom tom the pipers son: ears, body, yes but musical concepts are just that, internal concepts, which can't be pointed out externally
	11:56am zzz: thx JeffG!
	11:56am Stork: ↳ Song: "Twilight (Elliott Smith)" by "Barbara Manning" LOVE this rekkid - her first in a while - heard she's going on tour in '24
	11:56am adamdoesit: hanks for the tunes, Jeff G. They touch me inly and OUTly.
	11:56am Jeff Golick: ↳ Stork @11:56 so good
	🥁 11:57am WR: Thank you! Jeff!
	🥁 11:57am Listener Gregory: Thanks a lot, Jeff. Going out to brave the elements before the snow comes later. I'm beating the flute!
	11:57am Jeff Golick: Thanks for the thanks, y'all! You make the show!
	🥁 11:57am hyde: ↳ Stork @11:56 she actually played in Boston not too long ago, warming up for Galaxie 500
	🥁 11:57am tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Stork @11:56 i think she was touring with codeine in the fall
	🥁 11:58am hyde: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @11:57 ah right, it was Codeine not Galaxie 500
	11:58am listener james from westwood: Helluvan ending, helluva show!
	11:58am Woo: Quite enjoyed the show today. Thank you!
	🥁 11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ JeffG ~
	11:59am StringOFperils: So good that it Hz. Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:59am hyde: mixing up my old Chris Brokaw bands
	🥁 11:59am hyde: thanks!
	🥁 11:59am Doug Schulkind: So glad this is not the first time ever I heard your show, Jeff!
	🥁 12:00pm Yvang: Thanks Jeff great show!
	12:00pm Juli: High Noon.

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