WFMU: Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from May 3, 2023

Listener comments!
	6:57pm Gary: Big thanks to Peter Doolan of Monrakplengthai for finding several of the tracks we will play on tonight's program
	🇰🇷 7:00pm WR: Here to hear
	🇰🇷 7:00pm chresti: Hi Gary bodega show!
	7:00pm Gary: Here, too; here!
	7:01pm Gary: WR and Chresti, welcome!
	7:01pm Robert: I can't wait to hear the tracks for tonight's program.
	7:01pm Gary: Robert, howdy!
	7:01pm peter: hey Gary & Rattana & all! excited for the show
	7:02pm Amy Starecheski: Excited for the show!
	7:02pm arcadeproject: hello Gary, Rattana, and all you good people! very excited for tonight's show
	7:03pm Gary: Peter, Amy, and ArcadeProject! Evening all!
	7:04pm Ashley Boun: Tuning in from Richardson, TX!
	7:05pm northguineahills: this will be excellent, gary and Rattana
	7:05pm Vivian Boun: Listening in at Irving, Texas!
	7:05pm Gary: Ashley and NGH and Vivian, hey there!
	7:05pm Rattana: Hi everyone! Welcome to the show!
	7:06pm Singharaja: How to actually listen? I'm wondering.
	🇰🇷 7:06pm Listener Gregory: Good evening Gary and guest.
	🇰🇷 7:06pm chresti: Hi Rattana!
	7:06pm Gary: Singharaja! Click on "Pop-up" link near the top of the playlist toward the left side
	🇰🇷 7:07pm chresti: ↳ Singharaja @7:06 I'm listening via wfmu app on my phone- I'm in SoCal
	7:07pm Gary: If you click on 128k MP3, you can pull it into your MP3 player, but pop-up is easiest
	7:08pm Rebecca: Hi, Rattana! Excited to be here!
	7:09pm Gary: Rebecca!
	7:09pm Zipperhead7: Hi Gary, Rattana and Bodegans! Been looking forward to this show
	🇰🇷 7:09pm Listener Gregory: I'm glad I turned on the playlist, because I became convinced that the singer was singing "beefsteak," which I was pretty sure was wrong. "Lycee"—I was very close!
	7:10pm Singharaja: I still cannot find it.
	7:11pm Singharaja: Found it now.
	7:11pm Christina Le: Please click the “pop-up” @singhararja
	🇰🇷 7:12pm chresti: ↳ Singharaja @7:10 wfmu.org...
	7:12pm Gary: Zipperhead, Gregory, and Christina! Hi!!!
	7:12pm Rattana: Sid: I was born in the city of Savannakhet. I was growing up with my mom, my dad, they were farmers. They were farmers. So growing up in the farm, and, but go to school in the city. Growing up, I was growing up just like, just like normal teenagers. Love the music, soccer, all that stuff because most people in Laos, they like to play soccer. So pretty much like normal teenagers. Q: And where did you grow up? Judy: I do grow up in Luang Prabang until 16 years old, until 1969. I have to go to elementary school right? When you become seven years old, first grade start right there. I go first grade in Elementary in Luang Prabang, we call it, until sixth grade. (rooster crowing) Q: How long, how long was school? Was it all day and then you come home? Judy: Yeah, yeah. Q: And then what did you do when you got home? Did you help Matow [Grandma] Fong cook or did you play with kids? Judy: Well, you don't help to cook, only come home, study and either cook rice and you know [fetch water for the house], you know because water, we don't have water, we have to get a water bucket from the other neighbor and put in a tank, so that's what I do. (sound of water coming from a hose) Q: You had to get water from the neighbor's house? Judy: Yeah, because we don't have water ourselves you know like [tap water]. We have to get water from the neighbor. And you know, [we paid them for it]. Q: Did they have a well? Judy: No, water from city. We don't have water from city. We have to get from them. Q: So when you got water from the neighbor's, you just open, like from the sink? You would fill it up from.. Judy: No no no. We have to get the bucket from there from the tube. What do you call it? [Like from the] back yard. Q: From the water hose, the water hose. Judy: I had to carry and get in my house. Probably, how far? (sound of walking on gravel) Probably like 50 yard? Yeah, yeah, 50 yard from my house to the neighbor and I have to get the bucket and put it in my water tank. Because we don't have water to me like [we didn't have any money to turn on the tap]. Q: So that, that was your one of your chores? Judy: Yeah, then [we wake up in the morning and we steam the rice]. I have to cook the rice, probably not every morning, maybe on weekend. I have to cook the rice for everybody, [steam rice]. Then that's it and the time evening, I have a garden along the Mekong River, like right there by my house, you know my kitchen and go down the land and I grow vegetables.
	7:12pm Christina Le: Love when Gary and Rattana are on!
	7:15pm Telia: Hi y’all !
	7:16pm Gary: This is a children's song about going to school that we found on a CD in a very old Mall in Vientiane in 2016
	7:16pm Vivian Boun: Sabaidee pi mi @Telia
	7:16pm Gary: Telia, welcome!
	7:16pm northguineahills: we get the full transcript!!!! my citation senses are tingling!
	7:16pm Carolyn: This is a cute song!
	🇰🇷 7:16pm Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Heyo!
	7:17pm Gary: Threemoons, howdy!
	7:17pm Rebecca: ↳ northguineahills @7:16 Agree!!
	7:18pm sarahdz: hi rattana! ohma alum and wfmu fan here <3
	7:18pm Rattana: Hi Rebecca and Amy!
	7:18pm arcadeproject: love this song and the tie-in to the interview
	7:18pm Gary: Sarahdz, evening!
	7:20pm Florencia: Hi Rattana
	7:20pm Rattana: Hi Sarahdz! Thanks for tuning in!
	7:20pm Gary: Welcome, Florencia!
	7:21pm Florencia: Thank you
	7:21pm Florencia: Thank you, and Hello OHMA community
	🇰🇷 7:21pm Listener Gregory: It seems that the songs about beef have ended. Too bad!
	7:21pm Rattana: Hi Florencia!
	7:22pm Rattana: Q: Do you remember when you were a little kid what kind of music you grew up listening to? Judy: When I'm a kid, I don't think I listen to any music. Because back home, we don't have a radio. We don't have a TV. So like that.. I'm not listening to that. Q. Did you hear any music in school? Judy: Not in Luang Prabang Q: Do you remember other kinds of sounds like when you went to temple, you know lots of prayers and Buddhist, Buddhist songs? Do you remember any prayers and chants? Did you go to temple a lot when you were younger? Judy: I know, but I still don't know what.. thet you know, they call music thet. Q: Is music thet like prayers? Judy: Yeah, the prayers. But I go, but some people know how to say and pray (from) memory but I don't. Q: How many kinds of prayers are there? Judy: They have all prayers, like you pray to have good luck, yeah... good luck and you have good sleep some like that, but that kind of prayer. Well you go in there for thak bat (alms giving) or boon (celebrations, festivals). Then the monks have to pray and you pray as well, when they give you.. when you give your food you know, to the monk on the bowl and they give you a prayer back to you, give you healthy, something like that so that's all I know.
	7:23pm Robert Carrillo: I like how the tracks tie-in with the interviews to provide additional context.
	7:24pm Solby Lim: Hi Rattana!! Current OHMA student and Rattana’s peer tuning in :)
	7:25pm Rattana: Hi Robert and Solby!
	7:25pm Gary: Howdy, Robert C and Solby L!
	7:26pm Amy Starecheski: Loving these chants!
	7:27pm Lauren: Hi Gary and Rattana!
	7:28pm Chunming: Hi Rattana and everyone, good to see you in this way!! Echo the love for the chants!
	7:30pm Noki: Definitely feel at peace when listening to the chants
	7:30pm rochelle kwan: i loove this ~ thank you rattana & your fam for sharing all this with us <3
	7:32pm Gary: Lauren, Chunming, Noki, and Rochelle!
	7:33pm Vy: This is so cool!
	7:33pm Gary: Vy!
	7:34pm Solby Lim: Oh this song is lovely <33
	🇰🇷 7:34pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Suk San Wan Pbee Mai" by "Pimma Pimmasom" So, this is a Thai song?
	7:34pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:34 Ah, good question, Gregory! It's Lao, in fact
	7:35pm Noki: Love this version!
	7:36pm Rattana: The song Kad Hack translates to Missed Love
	7:37pm Chunming: OMG love this song, so beautiful!
	7:37pm Christina Le: Kad hak is beautiful
	7:38pm Solby Lim: ^^^
	7:38pm Zipperhead7: The music we've been hearing has a consistent serenity with an undercurrent of wistfulness. Just lovely!
	7:39pm Rattana: Hi Lauren, Chunming, Vy, Noki, Rochelle!
	7:39pm sarah dziedzic: early 1970s? so is this sort of like the "flower child" music of laos? or really a different genre altogether?
	7:39pm Lauren: @Zipperhead7 I was just about to type wistful as well. Indeed - this is a beautiful song.
	7:41pm Ariel: This is so cool!!! Ah!!!!!!!
	7:42pm Gary: Ariel, hello!
	7:46pm northguineahills: ↳ Zipperhead7 @7:38 how's zipperdawg? Feeling better from the park-found inedible edible?
	7:47pm Rattana: ↳ sarah dziedzic @7:39 Yes I would say so
	7:49pm Rattana: ↳ Ariel @7:41 Hi Ariel!
	7:51pm Rattana: Q: So how did you listen to this music? Judy: How? Well I, I okay, I'll say I had my boyfriend. He tried to sell CDs for, for their brother, for his brother. So that's why I knew and I knew from, I go to a party at school, a party.. probably I'm in the ninth grade. Yeah, then I know that music. And the other music that I know besides Lao music is (the) Beatle(s). I know that. Q: So you got into the Beatles around that time? Judy: Yeah. Q: How did, when did you first hear the Beatles? Judy: Oh.. what it is, my brother play guitar too. Brother played guitar and I went to a party. Q: Were they playing on the radio or the TV or what do you remember? Judy: Well back then we don't have TV. Like I said, I know from the school or when I went to parties. And plus I have a friend, we go picnic, you know? And they play guitar and that music. Q: And they played a lot of Beatles? Judy: Yeah. Q: Do you know what kind of songs? Judy: Um let's see. (chuckles) "Get back," okay, just put the name there. (Sings softly to recall) ... "get back, get back"....what else. "Yesterday" that's the name of the music.. (sings softly).. "Yesterday," "Get Back." Yeah, that's what the music I listened (to) when I'm teenager.
	7:52pm northguineahills: There's a lot of documented Thai/Cambodian/Vietnamese rock fusion of the early 70s. I've rarely heard any Laotian. Well, this would be a good place for me to start. Then again, I just want to hear anything Laotian
	7:54pm Gary: If you haven't already figured it out, Sarky Mekmorakoth (singing "Yesterday") is a Lao artist
	🇰🇷 7:54pm Listener Gregory: Yesterday and Get Back would be a perfect pair for a medley! Why have I never thought about that before now?
	🇰🇷 7:55pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Gary @7:54 The instrument doesn't sound exactly like a guitar. Any ideas?
	7:55pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:55 Ukulele!
	7:56pm Jill B.: Hi Gary, Late again....have been out in the studio sorting through painting and drawings.
	7:59pm Amy Starecheski: <3
	8:00pm Jill B.: And a huge HELLO to Rattana!
	8:01pm Gary: Hi Mom!
	8:01pm Rattana: https://ohmaexhibits.org/hub/routed
	🇰🇷 8:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening.
	8:02pm Gary: RevRab!
	8:04pm Rattana: ↳ Jill B. @8:00 Hi Mrs. B!
	8:04pm Gary: Big thanks to Peter Doolan for sending this Thai cha-cha-cha track and several others we'll hear tonight! Peter runs the incredible Monrakplengthai blog at monrakplengthai.blogspot.com
	8:05pm ?: I regret missing the first hour. Has Rattana talked about the process of OH? At Berkeley I recently saw a new OH of an adjunct professor with whom I've worked over the years. He is an attorney with a wine law practice in Napa, a scholar, a sculptor, and more. The print transcript is massive, and the preliminary materials describing the context for the OH is impressive. Will Rattana's work similarly result in transcriptions made available in print or PDF?
	8:05pm ?=Dean: Up there^
	8:05pm Gary: Dean! That's a very good question ... we'll see what we can find out
	🇰🇷 8:06pm WR: ↳ Rattana @8:01 thank you for the link!
	8:06pm Rattana: Q: The Cha Cha Cha songs, the Twist, Bah Salop, are those sort of western style dances or are they Thai, Lao? Sid: Cha Cha Cha is pretty much Luk Thung Laos and Thai. And Lam Vong, also Luk Thung Lao and Thai. Luk Thung, Luk Thung is just like country. So back in Laos and Thai, the majority people, they were farmers, but those people that were merchants, business owners, things like that, and they, that's when they get into the pop music. So but why Luk Thung so popular? Because there are more farmers than merchants and business owners, technology, things like that. That's why Luk Thung is more popular even probably now. Just like in Thailand, Luk Thung, Thailand is 30 million people in Thailand, the people that enjoy Luk Thung. They even have modern Luk Thung. They mix it up. They still come out from Luk Thung and Luk Thung, it's pretty much from the farm. But most the farmers, they are in Isan. On the other side of the Mekong river, they call Laos and they also listen to the same kind of songs. They enjoy, both countries enjoy the same Luk Thung. Molam, back then, people blow the khan instrument. That's how people, one man stand or one woman stand, sing Molam with one person phow [blow] khan, but now, now they mix it up with a whole band, with the khan, mix it up and you know make it look like Luk Thung pop. [Laughter]
	🇰🇷 8:07pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Gary @8:04 One of the earlier songs struck me as being in part a cha-cha, but I was afraid to ask.
	8:07pm Dean: Funny, I have Dust to Digital's Luk Thung right here on my stack of recent spins.
	8:08pm Rattana: Love Dust to Digital!
	8:08pm Gary: ↳ Dean @8:07 Peter Doolan wrote the liner notes for that, I believe
	8:09pm Dean: You are correct: Peter Doolan.
	🇰🇷 8:09pm chresti: Is Meesak Nakarat Thai?
	8:10pm Gary: ↳ chresti @8:09 Yes! Born in Bangkok
	8:11pm Juli: Here.
	8:12pm Rattana: Q: So what's the difference between Mo Lam and Luk Thung? Sid: Luk Thung is just the beat. Luk Thung is just the beat, which is Cha Cha Cha, Rumba, Tango, things like that. Not tango, pretty much cha cha cha and molam and lam vong, luk thung. But molam is, each part of Laos, they have their own style. Each part, from north to south, and they kind of transfer from generation to generation. And first it was just one man and one woman with someone blowing the khan, they call khan, it's a Lao music instrument. After that they transfer, they mix it up, make it from molam into cha cha cha, mix it up into lamvong with a khan instrument. So each part, they have their own, their own kind, their own song, their own molam. Just like the southern, they call it Lam Si Pan Don. And little bit above (Lam) Si Pan Don which is a little bit farther north, they call Lam Salavan, and then a little bit above (Lam) Salavan, they call Lam Khon Sa Van which originated from Savannakhet. And then in Savannakhet, there are two to three molam (styles) that they call Lam Ban Sot, Lam Thang Vai, and then when you go a little bit farther to Vientiane, that's when it becomes, they call it Lam Kap Ghieun, and then when you go a bit farther to Luang Prabang, that's when you get to Khuys Tum. But now lately, they mix everything. Molam is not, is not one person singing anymore. It's a group now with a full band. There's still some left of people who want to do one man and one khan, but not that popular. Q: Can you tell the difference between, if you listen to all the styles, can you tell? Sid: Oh yeah. Q: How can you tell the difference? Sid: The beat. The beats and the words and the way, when when you blow the Lao instrument which is called khan, you can tell right there if this one is Si Pan Don, or this one is Khon Sa Van, or this one is Khuys Tum.
	8:13pm Dean: A student with whom I work is wrapping up her JSD (essentially, a Ph.D. in law). She is a practicing attorney in Thailand, and when she returns to her country she will advise the government about environmental policy. We recently wished each other farewell, and she invited my family to Thailand!
	8:13pm Gary: Hi, Juli!
	8:13pm Vivian Boun: I'm loving this livestream tonight! <3
	🇰🇷 8:15pm chresti: Or Misak Nakarat
	8:15pm peter: i think it was Chawiwan Damnoen who said something like, "you 'lam' molam.. if you're 'singing', it's 'luk thung'", indicating the essential difference in vocal styles
	8:16pm Gary: ↳ peter @8:15 Ah, nice
	🇰🇷 8:16pm WR: ↳ Rattana @8:12 Sid is serious and knowledgeable about music. Not all music fans can describe the music they listen to so well.
	8:16pm peter: this song's a good example, actually.. the verses alternate between singing and lam!
	8:18pm Juli: ↳ Gary @8:13 Hi! !@
	8:19pm peter: ↳ peter @8:16 like Sid says, they mix it all up
	8:21pm Gary: Henry Chuc, Dalena, Phu Man Chu are Vietnamese artists (Boney M Medley)
	8:21pm doctorjazz: Hi Gary and shoppers!
	8:22pm Gary: The Jazz Doctor is in!
	🇰🇷 8:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Remarkable presentation. Appreciating.
	8:27pm Telia: Gary is the GOAT
	8:30pm northguineahills: ↳ Telia @8:27 he also makes a great ruminate ungulate. /i full-heartily agree w/ your assessment
	8:31pm Rattana: Q: What kind, what would you listen to if you were sad? What kind of songs or music did you listen to when you were sad? Judy: The musician is a woman, Phone, Phone Phoummitone, Phoummitone, "Nam Kong Yahm Lang." You know, that example, <nam kong> you know <nam kong> like a Mekong? Mekong, <nam yahm lang> it means evening. So, music is very, you know, what do you call it? <Mhan mouang> (it's enjoyable). Q: So when you were sad, you would listen to Phone Phoummitone and the song was? Judy: "Nam Kong," "Nam Kong" like Mekong (river).
	8:31pm Dean: Mostly interested in whether Rattana's project will conclude with a print/PDF release akin to the one I described. Is this part of the training for OH? Programs like this are spectacular introductions to the resources, but interested people will want to spend time with the transcripts.
	🇰🇷 8:34pm chresti: ↳ Gary @8:10 Thanks
	8:34pm Jill B.: What a great program! Fascinatingly hearing from people who grew up in Laos.
	8:35pm Jill B.: fascinating!
	8:37pm Lilith Rogers: Sorry I missed you I was on another Zoom.....was this recrded and can I find it? Hope so..
	8:38pm Gary: ↳ Lilith Rogers @8:37 Hi Lilith! Yes, the archive for this episode will be available a few hours or so after it ends in the archives -- at this same URL
	8:38pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Be Good จงทำดี" by "Sek Loso" oh, this is excellent!
	8:39pm Lilith Rogers: Thank You Gary...I will look for it then......And is Memory Tracks online.
	8:39pm Rattana: Q: So, okay, I know Voradeth, he's Lao. Sek Loso.. Sid: Thai Q: He's Thai. Whenever Lao people listen to Thai songs, do they understand the language? Sid: Oh yeah. Lao... my opinion and I think that it's true too, my opinion, Lao language... speaking is pretty much the same, except the accent. Just the same thing in in America. When you go talk to people in New York, people talking in Alaska, talking to Minnesota or Louisiana. They speak the same English but different... accent, so that's what I see. But some words are different. Lao and Thai, some words are different. But that's why they always say that between Lao and Thai, when they have some kind of meeting, some kind of a summit, or some kind of.. between those two, these people, no need for translation, no need for an interpreter. They speak Thai, Laos speak Lao, and they still communicate. So that's why, the way I'm seeing, just like northern Laos speak different, southern Laos speak different. But but when you sit in front of each other, talk to each other, they understand each other. So that's how I see it in my opinion, Lao and Thai just like, it's almost, almost the same except some words are different but they are still able to figure out what it is. Lao and Thai is almost the same except the accent. Just like why I speak Thai? I speak Thai when I respect the person that is in front of me, then I speak, when I respect the Thai person in front of me. But if normal people, a lot of the time I just speak Lao and they understand me. So I don't have to, I don't have to change me, to make them like me, pretty much. But if I speak to the Thai people, the older people (elders) that I respect, then I always speak in a Thai accent or speak Thai. And I still can read and I can write some even though I don't go to Thai school.
	8:41pm Rattana: Q: Can Thai people understand Lao and Lao music? Sid: It's a long history. To me, my opinion, in my opinion, Thai can understand Lao if they wanted to. They understand, they can understand Lao if they wanted to. But a lot of people, they.... what you call it, stubborn? They think "oh, I'm better than you," you know, things like that. Sometimes even though I understand but I'm pretending I don't understand you, pretty much like that. And Thai, this is the facts, Thai always looks.... way back, they always look at Lao as stupid, poor, no education or low education they always look at that. Even when they're mad at each other, they always said "you do like Laos." So pretty much Lao means stupid. But now lately things kind of change. I see even people, the movie stars, even trying to speak Lao too. Lao, talking about Lao Isan, it's the same Lao. Same language, same speaking language. But different accent. They call Lao Isan. There's Lao Isan. There's a lot of Lao Isan too, different parts, because there's 30 million people so there's a lot (who are) part of the country.
	🇰🇷 8:44pm Listener Gregory: Linguists have a saying: A language is a dialect backed by an army.
	8:45pm Lilith Rogers: Oh, that's interest, Kind of like people in the Northern US and Southern US have different accents and some different word usage and sometimes depending where they're from they think the other is ignorant or uppity....etc.
	8:45pm northguineahills: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:44 and if you're French, une academie as well...
	🇰🇷 8:46pm Listener Gregory: ↳ peter @8:15 Raises the question: Who put the "lam" in lam molam a ding dong?
	8:48pm Zipperhead7: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:44 That is very insightful and true!
	8:50pm wendy del formaggio: Hey Gary! I tuned in about 20 minutes ago. This is GREAT.
	8:50pm Gary: ↳ wendy del formaggio @8:50 Wendy! Howdy!
	8:51pm wendy del formaggio: Thank you, Rattana!
	🇰🇷 8:53pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Isan" by "Hong Thong Daw U-Don" The vocal was spectacular!
	8:54pm northguineahills: In medieval to early modern times, Laotian kings ruled over much of Thailand and vice-versa.... this didn't stop until the 19th c.
	8:54pm Dean: I grew up in Whittier, CA, at the east end of LA County right over the border from OC. In our uptown there once was a restaurant, Golden Triangle, that featured, Thai/Lao/Burmese [sic] dishes. To my palate it was wonderful.
	8:54pm headcleaner: Tuning in wayyyyy too late, unfortunately ... will have to give this program another start from the beginning ... very soon!
	8:54pm poodlecannon: Your Poodlecannon is in the building.
	8:55pm wendy del formaggio: In the 1980s, Brattleboro (near where I live) welcomed a few Laotian immigrant refugee families, so I got to know a few folks who came here from Laos as babies.
	8:55pm northguineahills: There's a Lao restaurant here in Orlando.
	8:55pm Dean: Dang, if Golden Triangle were still around, you'd have to try it. Worth a cross-continental trip? Maybe...
	8:56pm Christina Le: The Dallas Fort Worth area in texas is very saturated with lao restaurants
	8:57pm Dean: Golden Triangle was emphatic about serving cuisine of three nations.
	8:58pm Rattana: Q: Do you know if, I think I remember looking in some history of when the French divided up Laos. Do you remember anything about, you know, wasn't Isan a part of Laos before the French maybe divided it up? Do you know? Sid: You know, this one.. to get the facts straight, you have to look at the year. If you, if you said, oh Lao Isan used to be Laos? Well you have to ask, what year? And.. because different years are different, but the last one, if you count the last one, that's when France divided. It used to be, that's why the old people, they always keep the song, the.. what do you call it.. the (in) book(s), they always described Laos as Mekong river flow through in the center of Laos, in the middle. They always say "in the middle," "in the middle" but it's not in the middle anymore. They always.. there's a book, I think there are still some few left. I know when I was young, in elementary school, I used to read that. It said, <Pha thet khoi kung see muang Lao> my country is the name Laos. <Luang khon gyao sou tha lia hungh> there's a long, big, big land, that you can't even describe. And then the meaning word that means so much is <Nam kong phan ligh pah tankang> so the Mekong river flows through right in the middle of Laos. But when you talk about, Isan used to be Lao, well, you can say that too and why (there are) more people over there, it's because of Thai, you know during their war, way back and the people that they're doing the war (with), if you win the battle, if you win the battle to your town, your city, and the first thing they take, they always take slavery. And also some of (them) probably volunteer move because of, the other part of Laos is better, you know more rain, less rain, more dry, drought, things like that. That's why, when you talk about Isan and Lao, it depends on who you ask. It depends on what book you read, because writing history, when you're a winner, you have more right to write the history everywhere around the world. Everywhere. If you, if you win the war, if you win the battle, and your story, you have a right to write your your history and your history SOUNDS better, so it depends on who you ask. As Thai, different. As Lao, different.
	8:59pm poodlecannon: Looks like there's a Lao restaurant here in Baltimore. More in the Washington, though. charmcityelephant.com
	8:59pm Lucy March: Go Rattana and Gary! Great stuff!!
	🇰🇷 8:59pm WR: The playlist image is also on the ohma page for Rattana's project. The description is "A young Asian woman wearing a hat, oversized round sunglasses, and a 1970's printed top and bell bottoms is seen standing in front of an old Volkswagon Beetle and a row of other old cars, standing on a dirt road with trees in the background." How did you find the photograph?
	9:00pm Rattana: Hi Lucy!
	9:00pm Gary: ↳ WR @8:59 That's a photo of Judy!
	9:00pm Gary: Poodlecannon and Lucy M!
	9:01pm Gary: And Headcleaner, hello!
	9:05pm sarah dziedzic: gary: what is the interstitial/transition music you're playing?
	9:06pm Franco Twinkie: Hey Gary! Late to the show, but hey. I was in Surat Thani crossing a body of water in a riverboat. Me and a bunch of Thai guys...or so I thought. One guy was singled out for abuse - he was in the front of the boat throwing foot kicks at the other guys. I asked the one guy who knew some English what the hell was going on "Oh, he's Lao, We're Thai!"
	9:07pm Dean: That boundaries get blurred is salutary. How they get blurred is sometimes not so pleasant.
	9:08pm northguineahills: rewriting history to fit a 'nationalist' ,'ethnic', or 'political' agenda.
	9:08pm Dean: Another OH question: How do you prepare for inevitable mistaken memories? Are there skills for knowing when to recognize them?
	9:12pm northguineahills: adding music and sound is nice additional ambient touch to the presentation....if geography wasn't an obstacle, a memory soundwalk would be something curious to investigate in the future...
	9:14pm Rattana: A memory soundwalk would be amazing and something many oral historians have incorporated into their work
	9:14pm Gary: Franco!
	9:17pm Rattana: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:06 Grrr that's very annoying.
	9:17pm sarah dziedzic: a comment for rattana: as a listener, it's really nice to experience these familiar forms (a radio show + interviews) as something that feels new! plus i have learned so much about the history of laos and lots of lao music. thanks so much for your work!
	9:17pm Gary: ↳ sarah dziedzic @9:05 Sarah, sorry for the delayed response: It's Jonny Olsen playing "Khaen Lao Lum Phutai"
	🇰🇷 9:17pm WR: Rattana, we WFMU Bodega listeners are lucky and grateful that you chose Bodega Pop as a medium for sharing your OH work!
	9:20pm Rattana: ↳ sarah dziedzic @9:17 Thank you so much Sarah!
	9:20pm northguineahills: ↳ Rattana @9:14 You'd think I'd be aware of that. As someone who has artist friends that create soundwalks and who loves OH, academic and otherwise, I've never come across a memory soundwalk in OH.
	9:21pm northguineahills: ↳ WR @9:17 what WR said..
	9:22pm Rattana: ↳ WR @9:17 Thanks WR! I'm glad that Bodega Pop and WFMU gave me the opportunity to present in this format and to reach out beyond an academic audience.
	9:24pm Jill B.: Thank you Rattana for making this evening's program truly special and amazing.
	9:25pm Rebecca Kiil: Rattana - what a beautifully rich, dynamic, sensory experience. This was a very impactful and ingenious way to present the history of a family, a region, a conflict, multiple musical genres - so many layers creating an immersive and thoroughly enjoyable experience. Brava! Thank you. Gary - this is a wonderful program -- Thank you a fantastic evening!
	9:26pm Dean: My email: deanrowan -at- duck.com Thank you. Go for it at your convenience.
	9:26pm poodlecannon: Great show, Gary!
	9:27pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Rattana @9:17 I knew nothing of Thai superiority. But I also witnessed Vietnamese antagonism against the Chinese(Somewhat understandable considering their history)But the most pronounced dislike I saw was Nepalese/Indian.
	9:27pm Florencia: Congratulations Rattana! This was an unforgettable evening! Thank you very much!
	9:28pm Terrence: There is nothing like real traditional culture. So much is unknown or lost due to mainstream pop culture. 🫤
	9:28pm Dean: Beautiful! Thanks again.
	9:28pm northguineahills: we do have 30 more minutes... just saying...
	9:29pm Christina Le: Enjoyed my evening listening to the great narrative, interviews, and musical journey. Amazing job Rattana! Learned a lot ALOT!
	9:29pm Chunming: Rattana, this is so beautifully organized and an amazing show!!! Huge congrats and hug! Thank you and Gary for such a wonderful evening:)
	9:31pm Vivian Boun: ↳ Christina Le @9:29 I second this! <3<3
	9:32pm Zipperhead7: Really enjoyed this interesting and insightful program. The interviews really helped contextualize the tracks. I, for one, would love to hear more shows like this! Gary handled it all with his customary sensitivity and perceptiveness. You would have been a hell of a music studies teacher, Gary. "Would" actually is the wrong word -- "are" is appropriate
	9:32pm Rattana: ↳ Rebecca Kiil @9:25 Thanks Rebecca and I'm so glad you were able to tune in!
	9:32pm Listener Gregory: Thanks very much, Rattana. I’m afraid to say that I have learned something tonight.
	9:33pm Gary: Evening, Terrence!
	9:33pm Florencia: Thank you Gary for your hosting!
	9:33pm Amy Starecheski: This was so wonderful! If listeners want to check out other events this week, including a free workshop on doing family history tomorrow night, the lineup is here: https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/rootedrouted-ohma-annual-oral-history-showcase-2036569
	9:33pm Listener Gregory: Gary, you should really take something for your throat, like whiskey.
	9:34pm Terrence: ↳ Terrence @9:28 Evening, Gary.
	9:34pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:33 Haha
	9:34pm Amy Starecheski: Congrats, Rattana! And thanks, Gary!
	9:34pm Rattana: ↳ Amy Starecheski @9:34 Thanks Amy!!
	9:35pm Terrence: Nice party
	9:36pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Gary @9:34 Mekong whiskey! I went to a wedding reception in the jungle. Everybody got a pint!
	9:37pm Rattana: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:36 Was there a snake inside? Mine had a snake lol
	9:39pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Rattana @9:37 No, but I did see that in Vietnam. Also, baskets of snakes at the market - YUM!
	9:39pm Telia: I enjoyed the show and stories! Good job Rattana
	9:40pm Robert Carrillo: This was a great show, the stories made me feel like I was in Laos.
	9:40pm Rattana: Thanks to all the TX folks who tuned in!
	9:40pm Terrence: Thank you, Rattana and Gary.
	9:44pm Gary: Hey y'all, stick around at 10:00 pm for the always-already terrific Sam Segal of If You Lose Your Horse fame! Tonight's episode: "The Hermit Speaks and the Horse Listens" wfmu.org...
	9:54pm northguineahills: Rattan, Gary, thanks for a special evening. Good luck on your thesis Rattan, we'll be rooting for you!
	9:55pm Rattana: ↳ northguineahills @9:54 Thank you!
	🇰🇷 9:55pm WR: ↳ Rattana @9:40 As a Richardson HS 1969 graduate, your comment makes me smile.
	9:56pm peter: Great job, guys! Loved the interviews
	9:56pm Rattana: ↳ WR @9:55 oh wow no way!
	9:57pm Gary: ↳ peter @9:56 Thank you, Peter, and again, thanks for sending those tracks!
	9:58pm Listener Gregory: Sayonara, Gary. Great show!
	9:59pm Franco Twinkie: Rattana and Gary - what a show! Thanks!
	🇰🇷 9:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wow. Thank You for your generosity Ms. Bounsouaysana. ~ TY Always DJ Gary ~
	🇰🇷 9:59pm WR: Gary, Rattana has significantly raised the bar for Bodega Pop, you no longer can just grab a bunch of MP3s and improvise a program.
	9:59pm Christina Le: Woohoo! Great job Gary and Rattana
	10:00pm Gary: Good night, and thanks, everyone!
	🇰🇷 10:01pm WR: ↳ WR @9:59 JK
	10:01pm Gary: ↳ WR @10:01 Haha!
	🇰🇷 10:04pm WR: ↳ Gary @10:01 But seriously, your collaboration with Rattana and Peter on this program resulted in an amazing episode.
	🇰🇷 10:16pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	11:07am Wenzo: 👍👍👍👍👍 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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May 3, 2023: Memory Tracks: A Lao Family's Story through Music
Special guest Rattana Bounsouaysana shares a family’s migration story through interview sound clips, music, and commentary, as they make their way from Laos to the United States in the 1970s. Rattana Bounsouaysana is a student in the Master of Arts in Oral History program at Columbia University. Her work explores the Lao diaspora and the intersection of memory, identity, and history.

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Big thanks to Peter Doolan of Monrakplengthai for finding several of the tracks played on this episode

Artist	Track	Album	Year	Approx. start time
Music behind DJ: Bodega Pop	Intro "Intro" by "Bodega Pop"	Bodega Pop	2023	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Voradeth Dittavong	Lycee de Vientiane	Lycee de Vientiane		0:03:26 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	Introduction to Rattana's project		2023	0:07:19 (Pop-up)
Sid, Judy, and Rattana	Sid and Judy remember their early lives in Laos		2023	0:11:47 (Pop-up)
Unknown Lao School Kids	Kai Kan (Going to School)	Welcome to June 1st		0:16:13 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid remembers what he listened to as a child		2023	0:18:18 (Pop-up)
Suraphon Sombatcharoen สุรพล สมบัติเจริญ	Setthi Ngoen Kip			0:19:10 (Pop-up)
Judy & Rattana	"Tet": Prayers & chants		2023	0:22:12 (Pop-up)
Lao Buddhist Monks	Lao prayer chants			0:24:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	About the chanting		2023	0:26:39 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid reminisces about how he listened to music		2023	0:31:02 (Pop-up)
Pimma Pimmasom	Suk San Wan Pbee Mai			0:32:25 (Pop-up)
Judy & Rattana	Judy moves to Vientiane from Luang Prabang		2023	0:34:55 (Pop-up)
Voradeth Dittavong	Kad Hak (Missed Love)			0:35:52 (Pop-up)
Judy & Rattana	Judy listens to the Dittavong brothers		2023	0:40:10 (Pop-up)
William Ditthavong	Muang Luang "Muang Luang" by "William Ditthavong"			0:41:05 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid talks about listening to records & cassettes		2023	0:44:06 (Pop-up)
Kor Keokampha	Pleng Mak Ka Rok "Pleng Mak Ka Rok" by "Kor Keokampha"			0:48:20 (Pop-up)
Judy & Rattana	Judy's favorite Beatles songs		2023	0:51:22 (Pop-up)
Sarky Mekmorakoth	Yesterday "Yesterday" by "Sarky Mekmorakoth"			0:53:07 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	Reflections on what we just heard and info about other OHMA exhibits		2023	0:55:56 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid remembers playing guitar and drums		2023	1:00:41 (Pop-up)
Suraphon Sombatcharon เขมรไล่ควาย	Khamen Lai Khwai			1:03:07 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid talks about Luk Thung		2023	1:06:19 (Pop-up)
Suang Santi	Mao Chon Nuek Mai Ok "Mao Chon Nuek Mai Ok" by "Suang Santi"			1:08:49 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid talks about the difference between Luk Thung and Molam		2023	1:11:24 (Pop-up)
Viangphu Nu Nim ວຽງພູ ໜູນິ້ມ	Chodmai La Hak (A Love Letter) ຈົດໝາຍລາຮັກ			1:14:36 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid remembers his time in Thailand		2023	1:18:27 (Pop-up)
Henry Chuc, Dalena, Phu Man Chu	Boney M Medley (excerpt)			1:20:29 (Pop-up)
Judy, Sid, and Rattana	Communism in Laos		2023	1:21:55 (Pop-up)
Unknown Lao Artists	In the Liberated Zone (Pathet Lao Song)			1:25:19 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	Reflections on Communism then and now		2023	1:26:44 (Pop-up)
Judy & Rattana	"What did you listen to when you were sad?"		2023	1:31:58 (Pop-up)
Phone Phoummithone ພອນ ພູ?ມີ?ທອນ	Nam Khong Yarm Laèng			1:32:41 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid remembers running into Thai artist Sek Loso		2023	1:36:43 (Pop-up)
Sek Loso	Be Good จงทำดี			1:38:06 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Do Lao and Thai people understand each other?		2023	1:39:34 (Pop-up)
Banyen Rakkaen บานเย็นรากแก่น	Lam Phloen Daen Isan (Lam Phloen Of Isan)			1:43:24 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid on taking taxis now in Thailand		2023	1:47:01 (Pop-up)
Hong Thong Daw U-Don	Isan "Isan" by "Hong Thong Daw U-Don"			1:48:27 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	Nuances between Thai and Lao		2023	1:51:34 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Sid talks about Laos's historical past		2023	1:58:27 (Pop-up)
Khan, kachappi, kong hang, so, sing, recorded in Savannakhet, 2000	Lao Folkdance "Phuthay"			2:02:10 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	Rattana reflects on the history of the Southeast Asian region		2023	2:04:16 (Pop-up)
Judy & Rattana	Who would Judy most want to see today in concert?		2023	2:10:35 (Pop-up)
Somphong	Khamsap Ying Sao "Khamsap Ying Sao" by "Somphong"			2:11:16 (Pop-up)
Sid & Rattana	Wrapping up "Wrapping up" by "Sid & Rattana"		2023	2:14:32 (Pop-up)
Tha Bunthong & Thao Salilath	Lam of Savannakhet			2:15:32 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rattana & Gary	Final reflections & taking questions		2023	2:23:45 (Pop-up)
Sothy	Tawai ถวย "Tawai ถวย" by "Sothy"	Chansons Laotiennes	2017	2:31:07 (Pop-up)
Khui Khmu, Luang Prabang, 1988	Khmu Epic Folksong	Laos : Instrumental Music In Laos (Selection I)		2:36:32 (Pop-up)
Lam, Khen, Kachappi, Konghang, Sing	Lam Phuthai (Kengkok, 2000)	Traditional Music In Laos (Selection III)		2:41:01 (Pop-up)
Khap, lanat ek, lanat thum lek, kong ping, so-hep, xap, so-u	Khap Salangkhu (Phonpheng, 2001)	Traditional Music In Laos (Selection III)		2:45:06 (Pop-up)
Lam, Khen	Lam Siphandon (Vientiane)	Traditional Songs In Laos (Selection II)		2:47:43 (Pop-up)
Ruangthong Thonglanthom รวงทอง ทองลั่นธม	Sayonara Goodbye ซาโยนาระ ลาก่อน			2:55:02 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Catrina Paslaru	Hei La Bodega "Hei La Bodega" by "Catrina Paslaru"	Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!	2000	2:58:01 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	6:57pm Gary: Big thanks to Peter Doolan of Monrakplengthai for finding several of the tracks we will play on tonight's program
	🇰🇷 7:00pm WR: Here to hear
	🇰🇷 7:00pm chresti: Hi Gary bodega show!
	7:00pm Gary: Here, too; here!
	7:01pm Gary: WR and Chresti, welcome!
	7:01pm Robert: I can't wait to hear the tracks for tonight's program.
	7:01pm Gary: Robert, howdy!
	7:01pm peter: hey Gary & Rattana & all! excited for the show
	7:02pm Amy Starecheski: Excited for the show!
	7:02pm arcadeproject: hello Gary, Rattana, and all you good people! very excited for tonight's show
	7:03pm Gary: Peter, Amy, and ArcadeProject! Evening all!
	7:04pm Ashley Boun: Tuning in from Richardson, TX!
	7:05pm northguineahills: this will be excellent, gary and Rattana
	7:05pm Vivian Boun: Listening in at Irving, Texas!
	7:05pm Gary: Ashley and NGH and Vivian, hey there!
	7:05pm Rattana: Hi everyone! Welcome to the show!
	7:06pm Singharaja: How to actually listen? I'm wondering.
	🇰🇷 7:06pm Listener Gregory: Good evening Gary and guest.
	🇰🇷 7:06pm chresti: Hi Rattana!
	7:06pm Gary: Singharaja! Click on "Pop-up" link near the top of the playlist toward the left side
	🇰🇷 7:07pm chresti: ↳ Singharaja @7:06 I'm listening via wfmu app on my phone- I'm in SoCal
	7:07pm Gary: If you click on 128k MP3, you can pull it into your MP3 player, but pop-up is easiest
	7:08pm Rebecca: Hi, Rattana! Excited to be here!
	7:09pm Gary: Rebecca!
	7:09pm Zipperhead7: Hi Gary, Rattana and Bodegans! Been looking forward to this show
	🇰🇷 7:09pm Listener Gregory: I'm glad I turned on the playlist, because I became convinced that the singer was singing "beefsteak," which I was pretty sure was wrong. "Lycee"—I was very close!
	7:10pm Singharaja: I still cannot find it.
	7:11pm Singharaja: Found it now.
	7:11pm Christina Le: Please click the “pop-up” @singhararja
	🇰🇷 7:12pm chresti: ↳ Singharaja @7:10 wfmu.org...
	7:12pm Gary: Zipperhead, Gregory, and Christina! Hi!!!
	7:12pm Rattana: Sid: I was born in the city of Savannakhet. I was growing up with my mom, my dad, they were farmers. They were farmers. So growing up in the farm, and, but go to school in the city. Growing up, I was growing up just like, just like normal teenagers. Love the music, soccer, all that stuff because most people in Laos, they like to play soccer. So pretty much like normal teenagers. Q: And where did you grow up? Judy: I do grow up in Luang Prabang until 16 years old, until 1969. I have to go to elementary school right? When you become seven years old, first grade start right there. I go first grade in Elementary in Luang Prabang, we call it, until sixth grade. (rooster crowing) Q: How long, how long was school? Was it all day and then you come home? Judy: Yeah, yeah. Q: And then what did you do when you got home? Did you help Matow [Grandma] Fong cook or did you play with kids? Judy: Well, you don't help to cook, only come home, study and either cook rice and you know [fetch water for the house], you know because water, we don't have water, we have to get a water bucket from the other neighbor and put in a tank, so that's what I do. (sound of water coming from a hose) Q: You had to get water from the neighbor's house? Judy: Yeah, because we don't have water ourselves you know like [tap water]. We have to get water from the neighbor. And you know, [we paid them for it]. Q: Did they have a well? Judy: No, water from city. We don't have water from city. We have to get from them. Q: So when you got water from the neighbor's, you just open, like from the sink? You would fill it up from.. Judy: No no no. We have to get the bucket from there from the tube. What do you call it? [Like from the] back yard. Q: From the water hose, the water hose. Judy: I had to carry and get in my house. Probably, how far? (sound of walking on gravel) Probably like 50 yard? Yeah, yeah, 50 yard from my house to the neighbor and I have to get the bucket and put it in my water tank. Because we don't have water to me like [we didn't have any money to turn on the tap]. Q: So that, that was your one of your chores? Judy: Yeah, then [we wake up in the morning and we steam the rice]. I have to cook the rice, probably not every morning, maybe on weekend. I have to cook the rice for everybody, [steam rice]. Then that's it and the time evening, I have a garden along the Mekong River, like right there by my house, you know my kitchen and go down the land and I grow vegetables.
	7:12pm Christina Le: Love when Gary and Rattana are on!
	7:15pm Telia: Hi y’all !
	7:16pm Gary: This is a children's song about going to school that we found on a CD in a very old Mall in Vientiane in 2016
	7:16pm Vivian Boun: Sabaidee pi mi @Telia
	7:16pm Gary: Telia, welcome!
	7:16pm northguineahills: we get the full transcript!!!! my citation senses are tingling!
	7:16pm Carolyn: This is a cute song!
	🇰🇷 7:16pm Threemoons 🌛🌕🌜: Heyo!
	7:17pm Gary: Threemoons, howdy!
	7:17pm Rebecca: ↳ northguineahills @7:16 Agree!!
	7:18pm sarahdz: hi rattana! ohma alum and wfmu fan here <3
	7:18pm Rattana: Hi Rebecca and Amy!
	7:18pm arcadeproject: love this song and the tie-in to the interview
	7:18pm Gary: Sarahdz, evening!
	7:20pm Florencia: Hi Rattana
	7:20pm Rattana: Hi Sarahdz! Thanks for tuning in!
	7:20pm Gary: Welcome, Florencia!
	7:21pm Florencia: Thank you
	7:21pm Florencia: Thank you, and Hello OHMA community
	🇰🇷 7:21pm Listener Gregory: It seems that the songs about beef have ended. Too bad!
	7:21pm Rattana: Hi Florencia!
	7:22pm Rattana: Q: Do you remember when you were a little kid what kind of music you grew up listening to? Judy: When I'm a kid, I don't think I listen to any music. Because back home, we don't have a radio. We don't have a TV. So like that.. I'm not listening to that. Q. Did you hear any music in school? Judy: Not in Luang Prabang Q: Do you remember other kinds of sounds like when you went to temple, you know lots of prayers and Buddhist, Buddhist songs? Do you remember any prayers and chants? Did you go to temple a lot when you were younger? Judy: I know, but I still don't know what.. thet you know, they call music thet. Q: Is music thet like prayers? Judy: Yeah, the prayers. But I go, but some people know how to say and pray (from) memory but I don't. Q: How many kinds of prayers are there? Judy: They have all prayers, like you pray to have good luck, yeah... good luck and you have good sleep some like that, but that kind of prayer. Well you go in there for thak bat (alms giving) or boon (celebrations, festivals). Then the monks have to pray and you pray as well, when they give you.. when you give your food you know, to the monk on the bowl and they give you a prayer back to you, give you healthy, something like that so that's all I know.
	7:23pm Robert Carrillo: I like how the tracks tie-in with the interviews to provide additional context.
	7:24pm Solby Lim: Hi Rattana!! Current OHMA student and Rattana’s peer tuning in :)
	7:25pm Rattana: Hi Robert and Solby!
	7:25pm Gary: Howdy, Robert C and Solby L!
	7:26pm Amy Starecheski: Loving these chants!
	7:27pm Lauren: Hi Gary and Rattana!
	7:28pm Chunming: Hi Rattana and everyone, good to see you in this way!! Echo the love for the chants!
	7:30pm Noki: Definitely feel at peace when listening to the chants
	7:30pm rochelle kwan: i loove this ~ thank you rattana & your fam for sharing all this with us <3
	7:32pm Gary: Lauren, Chunming, Noki, and Rochelle!
	7:33pm Vy: This is so cool!
	7:33pm Gary: Vy!
	7:34pm Solby Lim: Oh this song is lovely <33
	🇰🇷 7:34pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Suk San Wan Pbee Mai" by "Pimma Pimmasom" So, this is a Thai song?
	7:34pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:34 Ah, good question, Gregory! It's Lao, in fact
	7:35pm Noki: Love this version!
	7:36pm Rattana: The song Kad Hack translates to Missed Love
	7:37pm Chunming: OMG love this song, so beautiful!
	7:37pm Christina Le: Kad hak is beautiful
	7:38pm Solby Lim: ^^^
	7:38pm Zipperhead7: The music we've been hearing has a consistent serenity with an undercurrent of wistfulness. Just lovely!
	7:39pm Rattana: Hi Lauren, Chunming, Vy, Noki, Rochelle!
	7:39pm sarah dziedzic: early 1970s? so is this sort of like the "flower child" music of laos? or really a different genre altogether?
	7:39pm Lauren: @Zipperhead7 I was just about to type wistful as well. Indeed - this is a beautiful song.
	7:41pm Ariel: This is so cool!!! Ah!!!!!!!
	7:42pm Gary: Ariel, hello!
	7:46pm northguineahills: ↳ Zipperhead7 @7:38 how's zipperdawg? Feeling better from the park-found inedible edible?
	7:47pm Rattana: ↳ sarah dziedzic @7:39 Yes I would say so
	7:49pm Rattana: ↳ Ariel @7:41 Hi Ariel!
	7:51pm Rattana: Q: So how did you listen to this music? Judy: How? Well I, I okay, I'll say I had my boyfriend. He tried to sell CDs for, for their brother, for his brother. So that's why I knew and I knew from, I go to a party at school, a party.. probably I'm in the ninth grade. Yeah, then I know that music. And the other music that I know besides Lao music is (the) Beatle(s). I know that. Q: So you got into the Beatles around that time? Judy: Yeah. Q: How did, when did you first hear the Beatles? Judy: Oh.. what it is, my brother play guitar too. Brother played guitar and I went to a party. Q: Were they playing on the radio or the TV or what do you remember? Judy: Well back then we don't have TV. Like I said, I know from the school or when I went to parties. And plus I have a friend, we go picnic, you know? And they play guitar and that music. Q: And they played a lot of Beatles? Judy: Yeah. Q: Do you know what kind of songs? Judy: Um let's see. (chuckles) "Get back," okay, just put the name there. (Sings softly to recall) ... "get back, get back"....what else. "Yesterday" that's the name of the music.. (sings softly).. "Yesterday," "Get Back." Yeah, that's what the music I listened (to) when I'm teenager.
	7:52pm northguineahills: There's a lot of documented Thai/Cambodian/Vietnamese rock fusion of the early 70s. I've rarely heard any Laotian. Well, this would be a good place for me to start. Then again, I just want to hear anything Laotian
	7:54pm Gary: If you haven't already figured it out, Sarky Mekmorakoth (singing "Yesterday") is a Lao artist
	🇰🇷 7:54pm Listener Gregory: Yesterday and Get Back would be a perfect pair for a medley! Why have I never thought about that before now?
	🇰🇷 7:55pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Gary @7:54 The instrument doesn't sound exactly like a guitar. Any ideas?
	7:55pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:55 Ukulele!
	7:56pm Jill B.: Hi Gary, Late again....have been out in the studio sorting through painting and drawings.
	7:59pm Amy Starecheski: <3
	8:00pm Jill B.: And a huge HELLO to Rattana!
	8:01pm Gary: Hi Mom!
	8:01pm Rattana: https://ohmaexhibits.org/hub/routed
	🇰🇷 8:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Evening.
	8:02pm Gary: RevRab!
	8:04pm Rattana: ↳ Jill B. @8:00 Hi Mrs. B!
	8:04pm Gary: Big thanks to Peter Doolan for sending this Thai cha-cha-cha track and several others we'll hear tonight! Peter runs the incredible Monrakplengthai blog at monrakplengthai.blogspot.com
	8:05pm ?: I regret missing the first hour. Has Rattana talked about the process of OH? At Berkeley I recently saw a new OH of an adjunct professor with whom I've worked over the years. He is an attorney with a wine law practice in Napa, a scholar, a sculptor, and more. The print transcript is massive, and the preliminary materials describing the context for the OH is impressive. Will Rattana's work similarly result in transcriptions made available in print or PDF?
	8:05pm ?=Dean: Up there^
	8:05pm Gary: Dean! That's a very good question ... we'll see what we can find out
	🇰🇷 8:06pm WR: ↳ Rattana @8:01 thank you for the link!
	8:06pm Rattana: Q: The Cha Cha Cha songs, the Twist, Bah Salop, are those sort of western style dances or are they Thai, Lao? Sid: Cha Cha Cha is pretty much Luk Thung Laos and Thai. And Lam Vong, also Luk Thung Lao and Thai. Luk Thung, Luk Thung is just like country. So back in Laos and Thai, the majority people, they were farmers, but those people that were merchants, business owners, things like that, and they, that's when they get into the pop music. So but why Luk Thung so popular? Because there are more farmers than merchants and business owners, technology, things like that. That's why Luk Thung is more popular even probably now. Just like in Thailand, Luk Thung, Thailand is 30 million people in Thailand, the people that enjoy Luk Thung. They even have modern Luk Thung. They mix it up. They still come out from Luk Thung and Luk Thung, it's pretty much from the farm. But most the farmers, they are in Isan. On the other side of the Mekong river, they call Laos and they also listen to the same kind of songs. They enjoy, both countries enjoy the same Luk Thung. Molam, back then, people blow the khan instrument. That's how people, one man stand or one woman stand, sing Molam with one person phow [blow] khan, but now, now they mix it up with a whole band, with the khan, mix it up and you know make it look like Luk Thung pop. [Laughter]
	🇰🇷 8:07pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Gary @8:04 One of the earlier songs struck me as being in part a cha-cha, but I was afraid to ask.
	8:07pm Dean: Funny, I have Dust to Digital's Luk Thung right here on my stack of recent spins.
	8:08pm Rattana: Love Dust to Digital!
	8:08pm Gary: ↳ Dean @8:07 Peter Doolan wrote the liner notes for that, I believe
	8:09pm Dean: You are correct: Peter Doolan.
	🇰🇷 8:09pm chresti: Is Meesak Nakarat Thai?
	8:10pm Gary: ↳ chresti @8:09 Yes! Born in Bangkok
	8:11pm Juli: Here.
	8:12pm Rattana: Q: So what's the difference between Mo Lam and Luk Thung? Sid: Luk Thung is just the beat. Luk Thung is just the beat, which is Cha Cha Cha, Rumba, Tango, things like that. Not tango, pretty much cha cha cha and molam and lam vong, luk thung. But molam is, each part of Laos, they have their own style. Each part, from north to south, and they kind of transfer from generation to generation. And first it was just one man and one woman with someone blowing the khan, they call khan, it's a Lao music instrument. After that they transfer, they mix it up, make it from molam into cha cha cha, mix it up into lamvong with a khan instrument. So each part, they have their own, their own kind, their own song, their own molam. Just like the southern, they call it Lam Si Pan Don. And little bit above (Lam) Si Pan Don which is a little bit farther north, they call Lam Salavan, and then a little bit above (Lam) Salavan, they call Lam Khon Sa Van which originated from Savannakhet. And then in Savannakhet, there are two to three molam (styles) that they call Lam Ban Sot, Lam Thang Vai, and then when you go a little bit farther to Vientiane, that's when it becomes, they call it Lam Kap Ghieun, and then when you go a bit farther to Luang Prabang, that's when you get to Khuys Tum. But now lately, they mix everything. Molam is not, is not one person singing anymore. It's a group now with a full band. There's still some left of people who want to do one man and one khan, but not that popular. Q: Can you tell the difference between, if you listen to all the styles, can you tell? Sid: Oh yeah. Q: How can you tell the difference? Sid: The beat. The beats and the words and the way, when when you blow the Lao instrument which is called khan, you can tell right there if this one is Si Pan Don, or this one is Khon Sa Van, or this one is Khuys Tum.
	8:13pm Dean: A student with whom I work is wrapping up her JSD (essentially, a Ph.D. in law). She is a practicing attorney in Thailand, and when she returns to her country she will advise the government about environmental policy. We recently wished each other farewell, and she invited my family to Thailand!
	8:13pm Gary: Hi, Juli!
	8:13pm Vivian Boun: I'm loving this livestream tonight! <3
	🇰🇷 8:15pm chresti: Or Misak Nakarat
	8:15pm peter: i think it was Chawiwan Damnoen who said something like, "you 'lam' molam.. if you're 'singing', it's 'luk thung'", indicating the essential difference in vocal styles
	8:16pm Gary: ↳ peter @8:15 Ah, nice
	🇰🇷 8:16pm WR: ↳ Rattana @8:12 Sid is serious and knowledgeable about music. Not all music fans can describe the music they listen to so well.
	8:16pm peter: this song's a good example, actually.. the verses alternate between singing and lam!
	8:18pm Juli: ↳ Gary @8:13 Hi! !@
	8:19pm peter: ↳ peter @8:16 like Sid says, they mix it all up
	8:21pm Gary: Henry Chuc, Dalena, Phu Man Chu are Vietnamese artists (Boney M Medley)
	8:21pm doctorjazz: Hi Gary and shoppers!
	8:22pm Gary: The Jazz Doctor is in!
	🇰🇷 8:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Remarkable presentation. Appreciating.
	8:27pm Telia: Gary is the GOAT
	8:30pm northguineahills: ↳ Telia @8:27 he also makes a great ruminate ungulate. /i full-heartily agree w/ your assessment
	8:31pm Rattana: Q: What kind, what would you listen to if you were sad? What kind of songs or music did you listen to when you were sad? Judy: The musician is a woman, Phone, Phone Phoummitone, Phoummitone, "Nam Kong Yahm Lang." You know, that example, <nam kong> you know <nam kong> like a Mekong? Mekong, <nam yahm lang> it means evening. So, music is very, you know, what do you call it? <Mhan mouang> (it's enjoyable). Q: So when you were sad, you would listen to Phone Phoummitone and the song was? Judy: "Nam Kong," "Nam Kong" like Mekong (river).
	8:31pm Dean: Mostly interested in whether Rattana's project will conclude with a print/PDF release akin to the one I described. Is this part of the training for OH? Programs like this are spectacular introductions to the resources, but interested people will want to spend time with the transcripts.
	🇰🇷 8:34pm chresti: ↳ Gary @8:10 Thanks
	8:34pm Jill B.: What a great program! Fascinatingly hearing from people who grew up in Laos.
	8:35pm Jill B.: fascinating!
	8:37pm Lilith Rogers: Sorry I missed you I was on another Zoom.....was this recrded and can I find it? Hope so..
	8:38pm Gary: ↳ Lilith Rogers @8:37 Hi Lilith! Yes, the archive for this episode will be available a few hours or so after it ends in the archives -- at this same URL
	8:38pm northguineahills: ↳ Song: "Be Good จงทำดี" by "Sek Loso" oh, this is excellent!
	8:39pm Lilith Rogers: Thank You Gary...I will look for it then......And is Memory Tracks online.
	8:39pm Rattana: Q: So, okay, I know Voradeth, he's Lao. Sek Loso.. Sid: Thai Q: He's Thai. Whenever Lao people listen to Thai songs, do they understand the language? Sid: Oh yeah. Lao... my opinion and I think that it's true too, my opinion, Lao language... speaking is pretty much the same, except the accent. Just the same thing in in America. When you go talk to people in New York, people talking in Alaska, talking to Minnesota or Louisiana. They speak the same English but different... accent, so that's what I see. But some words are different. Lao and Thai, some words are different. But that's why they always say that between Lao and Thai, when they have some kind of meeting, some kind of a summit, or some kind of.. between those two, these people, no need for translation, no need for an interpreter. They speak Thai, Laos speak Lao, and they still communicate. So that's why, the way I'm seeing, just like northern Laos speak different, southern Laos speak different. But but when you sit in front of each other, talk to each other, they understand each other. So that's how I see it in my opinion, Lao and Thai just like, it's almost, almost the same except some words are different but they are still able to figure out what it is. Lao and Thai is almost the same except the accent. Just like why I speak Thai? I speak Thai when I respect the person that is in front of me, then I speak, when I respect the Thai person in front of me. But if normal people, a lot of the time I just speak Lao and they understand me. So I don't have to, I don't have to change me, to make them like me, pretty much. But if I speak to the Thai people, the older people (elders) that I respect, then I always speak in a Thai accent or speak Thai. And I still can read and I can write some even though I don't go to Thai school.
	8:41pm Rattana: Q: Can Thai people understand Lao and Lao music? Sid: It's a long history. To me, my opinion, in my opinion, Thai can understand Lao if they wanted to. They understand, they can understand Lao if they wanted to. But a lot of people, they.... what you call it, stubborn? They think "oh, I'm better than you," you know, things like that. Sometimes even though I understand but I'm pretending I don't understand you, pretty much like that. And Thai, this is the facts, Thai always looks.... way back, they always look at Lao as stupid, poor, no education or low education they always look at that. Even when they're mad at each other, they always said "you do like Laos." So pretty much Lao means stupid. But now lately things kind of change. I see even people, the movie stars, even trying to speak Lao too. Lao, talking about Lao Isan, it's the same Lao. Same language, same speaking language. But different accent. They call Lao Isan. There's Lao Isan. There's a lot of Lao Isan too, different parts, because there's 30 million people so there's a lot (who are) part of the country.
	🇰🇷 8:44pm Listener Gregory: Linguists have a saying: A language is a dialect backed by an army.
	8:45pm Lilith Rogers: Oh, that's interest, Kind of like people in the Northern US and Southern US have different accents and some different word usage and sometimes depending where they're from they think the other is ignorant or uppity....etc.
	8:45pm northguineahills: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:44 and if you're French, une academie as well...
	🇰🇷 8:46pm Listener Gregory: ↳ peter @8:15 Raises the question: Who put the "lam" in lam molam a ding dong?
	8:48pm Zipperhead7: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:44 That is very insightful and true!
	8:50pm wendy del formaggio: Hey Gary! I tuned in about 20 minutes ago. This is GREAT.
	8:50pm Gary: ↳ wendy del formaggio @8:50 Wendy! Howdy!
	8:51pm wendy del formaggio: Thank you, Rattana!
	🇰🇷 8:53pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Isan" by "Hong Thong Daw U-Don" The vocal was spectacular!
	8:54pm northguineahills: In medieval to early modern times, Laotian kings ruled over much of Thailand and vice-versa.... this didn't stop until the 19th c.
	8:54pm Dean: I grew up in Whittier, CA, at the east end of LA County right over the border from OC. In our uptown there once was a restaurant, Golden Triangle, that featured, Thai/Lao/Burmese [sic] dishes. To my palate it was wonderful.
	8:54pm headcleaner: Tuning in wayyyyy too late, unfortunately ... will have to give this program another start from the beginning ... very soon!
	8:54pm poodlecannon: Your Poodlecannon is in the building.
	8:55pm wendy del formaggio: In the 1980s, Brattleboro (near where I live) welcomed a few Laotian immigrant refugee families, so I got to know a few folks who came here from Laos as babies.
	8:55pm northguineahills: There's a Lao restaurant here in Orlando.
	8:55pm Dean: Dang, if Golden Triangle were still around, you'd have to try it. Worth a cross-continental trip? Maybe...
	8:56pm Christina Le: The Dallas Fort Worth area in texas is very saturated with lao restaurants
	8:57pm Dean: Golden Triangle was emphatic about serving cuisine of three nations.
	8:58pm Rattana: Q: Do you know if, I think I remember looking in some history of when the French divided up Laos. Do you remember anything about, you know, wasn't Isan a part of Laos before the French maybe divided it up? Do you know? Sid: You know, this one.. to get the facts straight, you have to look at the year. If you, if you said, oh Lao Isan used to be Laos? Well you have to ask, what year? And.. because different years are different, but the last one, if you count the last one, that's when France divided. It used to be, that's why the old people, they always keep the song, the.. what do you call it.. the (in) book(s), they always described Laos as Mekong river flow through in the center of Laos, in the middle. They always say "in the middle," "in the middle" but it's not in the middle anymore. They always.. there's a book, I think there are still some few left. I know when I was young, in elementary school, I used to read that. It said, <Pha thet khoi kung see muang Lao> my country is the name Laos. <Luang khon gyao sou tha lia hungh> there's a long, big, big land, that you can't even describe. And then the meaning word that means so much is <Nam kong phan ligh pah tankang> so the Mekong river flows through right in the middle of Laos. But when you talk about, Isan used to be Lao, well, you can say that too and why (there are) more people over there, it's because of Thai, you know during their war, way back and the people that they're doing the war (with), if you win the battle, if you win the battle to your town, your city, and the first thing they take, they always take slavery. And also some of (them) probably volunteer move because of, the other part of Laos is better, you know more rain, less rain, more dry, drought, things like that. That's why, when you talk about Isan and Lao, it depends on who you ask. It depends on what book you read, because writing history, when you're a winner, you have more right to write the history everywhere around the world. Everywhere. If you, if you win the war, if you win the battle, and your story, you have a right to write your your history and your history SOUNDS better, so it depends on who you ask. As Thai, different. As Lao, different.
	8:59pm poodlecannon: Looks like there's a Lao restaurant here in Baltimore. More in the Washington, though. charmcityelephant.com
	8:59pm Lucy March: Go Rattana and Gary! Great stuff!!
	🇰🇷 8:59pm WR: The playlist image is also on the ohma page for Rattana's project. The description is "A young Asian woman wearing a hat, oversized round sunglasses, and a 1970's printed top and bell bottoms is seen standing in front of an old Volkswagon Beetle and a row of other old cars, standing on a dirt road with trees in the background." How did you find the photograph?
	9:00pm Rattana: Hi Lucy!
	9:00pm Gary: ↳ WR @8:59 That's a photo of Judy!
	9:00pm Gary: Poodlecannon and Lucy M!
	9:01pm Gary: And Headcleaner, hello!
	9:05pm sarah dziedzic: gary: what is the interstitial/transition music you're playing?
	9:06pm Franco Twinkie: Hey Gary! Late to the show, but hey. I was in Surat Thani crossing a body of water in a riverboat. Me and a bunch of Thai guys...or so I thought. One guy was singled out for abuse - he was in the front of the boat throwing foot kicks at the other guys. I asked the one guy who knew some English what the hell was going on "Oh, he's Lao, We're Thai!"
	9:07pm Dean: That boundaries get blurred is salutary. How they get blurred is sometimes not so pleasant.
	9:08pm northguineahills: rewriting history to fit a 'nationalist' ,'ethnic', or 'political' agenda.
	9:08pm Dean: Another OH question: How do you prepare for inevitable mistaken memories? Are there skills for knowing when to recognize them?
	9:12pm northguineahills: adding music and sound is nice additional ambient touch to the presentation....if geography wasn't an obstacle, a memory soundwalk would be something curious to investigate in the future...
	9:14pm Rattana: A memory soundwalk would be amazing and something many oral historians have incorporated into their work
	9:14pm Gary: Franco!
	9:17pm Rattana: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:06 Grrr that's very annoying.
	9:17pm sarah dziedzic: a comment for rattana: as a listener, it's really nice to experience these familiar forms (a radio show + interviews) as something that feels new! plus i have learned so much about the history of laos and lots of lao music. thanks so much for your work!
	9:17pm Gary: ↳ sarah dziedzic @9:05 Sarah, sorry for the delayed response: It's Jonny Olsen playing "Khaen Lao Lum Phutai"
	🇰🇷 9:17pm WR: Rattana, we WFMU Bodega listeners are lucky and grateful that you chose Bodega Pop as a medium for sharing your OH work!
	9:20pm Rattana: ↳ sarah dziedzic @9:17 Thank you so much Sarah!
	9:20pm northguineahills: ↳ Rattana @9:14 You'd think I'd be aware of that. As someone who has artist friends that create soundwalks and who loves OH, academic and otherwise, I've never come across a memory soundwalk in OH.
	9:21pm northguineahills: ↳ WR @9:17 what WR said..
	9:22pm Rattana: ↳ WR @9:17 Thanks WR! I'm glad that Bodega Pop and WFMU gave me the opportunity to present in this format and to reach out beyond an academic audience.
	9:24pm Jill B.: Thank you Rattana for making this evening's program truly special and amazing.
	9:25pm Rebecca Kiil: Rattana - what a beautifully rich, dynamic, sensory experience. This was a very impactful and ingenious way to present the history of a family, a region, a conflict, multiple musical genres - so many layers creating an immersive and thoroughly enjoyable experience. Brava! Thank you. Gary - this is a wonderful program -- Thank you a fantastic evening!
	9:26pm Dean: My email: deanrowan -at- duck.com Thank you. Go for it at your convenience.
	9:26pm poodlecannon: Great show, Gary!
	9:27pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Rattana @9:17 I knew nothing of Thai superiority. But I also witnessed Vietnamese antagonism against the Chinese(Somewhat understandable considering their history)But the most pronounced dislike I saw was Nepalese/Indian.
	9:27pm Florencia: Congratulations Rattana! This was an unforgettable evening! Thank you very much!
	9:28pm Terrence: There is nothing like real traditional culture. So much is unknown or lost due to mainstream pop culture. 🫤
	9:28pm Dean: Beautiful! Thanks again.
	9:28pm northguineahills: we do have 30 more minutes... just saying...
	9:29pm Christina Le: Enjoyed my evening listening to the great narrative, interviews, and musical journey. Amazing job Rattana! Learned a lot ALOT!
	9:29pm Chunming: Rattana, this is so beautifully organized and an amazing show!!! Huge congrats and hug! Thank you and Gary for such a wonderful evening:)
	9:31pm Vivian Boun: ↳ Christina Le @9:29 I second this! <3<3
	9:32pm Zipperhead7: Really enjoyed this interesting and insightful program. The interviews really helped contextualize the tracks. I, for one, would love to hear more shows like this! Gary handled it all with his customary sensitivity and perceptiveness. You would have been a hell of a music studies teacher, Gary. "Would" actually is the wrong word -- "are" is appropriate
	9:32pm Rattana: ↳ Rebecca Kiil @9:25 Thanks Rebecca and I'm so glad you were able to tune in!
	9:32pm Listener Gregory: Thanks very much, Rattana. I’m afraid to say that I have learned something tonight.
	9:33pm Gary: Evening, Terrence!
	9:33pm Florencia: Thank you Gary for your hosting!
	9:33pm Amy Starecheski: This was so wonderful! If listeners want to check out other events this week, including a free workshop on doing family history tomorrow night, the lineup is here: https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/rootedrouted-ohma-annual-oral-history-showcase-2036569
	9:33pm Listener Gregory: Gary, you should really take something for your throat, like whiskey.
	9:34pm Terrence: ↳ Terrence @9:28 Evening, Gary.
	9:34pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:33 Haha
	9:34pm Amy Starecheski: Congrats, Rattana! And thanks, Gary!
	9:34pm Rattana: ↳ Amy Starecheski @9:34 Thanks Amy!!
	9:35pm Terrence: Nice party
	9:36pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Gary @9:34 Mekong whiskey! I went to a wedding reception in the jungle. Everybody got a pint!
	9:37pm Rattana: ↳ Franco Twinkie @9:36 Was there a snake inside? Mine had a snake lol
	9:39pm Franco Twinkie: ↳ Rattana @9:37 No, but I did see that in Vietnam. Also, baskets of snakes at the market - YUM!
	9:39pm Telia: I enjoyed the show and stories! Good job Rattana
	9:40pm Robert Carrillo: This was a great show, the stories made me feel like I was in Laos.
	9:40pm Rattana: Thanks to all the TX folks who tuned in!
	9:40pm Terrence: Thank you, Rattana and Gary.
	9:44pm Gary: Hey y'all, stick around at 10:00 pm for the always-already terrific Sam Segal of If You Lose Your Horse fame! Tonight's episode: "The Hermit Speaks and the Horse Listens" wfmu.org...
	9:54pm northguineahills: Rattan, Gary, thanks for a special evening. Good luck on your thesis Rattan, we'll be rooting for you!
	9:55pm Rattana: ↳ northguineahills @9:54 Thank you!
	🇰🇷 9:55pm WR: ↳ Rattana @9:40 As a Richardson HS 1969 graduate, your comment makes me smile.
	9:56pm peter: Great job, guys! Loved the interviews
	9:56pm Rattana: ↳ WR @9:55 oh wow no way!
	9:57pm Gary: ↳ peter @9:56 Thank you, Peter, and again, thanks for sending those tracks!
	9:58pm Listener Gregory: Sayonara, Gary. Great show!
	9:59pm Franco Twinkie: Rattana and Gary - what a show! Thanks!
	🇰🇷 9:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Wow. Thank You for your generosity Ms. Bounsouaysana. ~ TY Always DJ Gary ~
	🇰🇷 9:59pm WR: Gary, Rattana has significantly raised the bar for Bodega Pop, you no longer can just grab a bunch of MP3s and improvise a program.
	9:59pm Christina Le: Woohoo! Great job Gary and Rattana
	10:00pm Gary: Good night, and thanks, everyone!
	🇰🇷 10:01pm WR: ↳ WR @9:59 JK
	10:01pm Gary: ↳ WR @10:01 Haha!
	🇰🇷 10:04pm WR: ↳ Gary @10:01 But seriously, your collaboration with Rattana and Peter on this program resulted in an amazing episode.
	🇰🇷 10:16pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	11:07am Wenzo: 👍👍👍👍👍 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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