WFMU: It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from November 21, 2022

Listener comments!
	7:01pm Wendy del Formaggio: Yay! I get to listen live! Hello, Dave Mandl. Hello, everyone else.
	🤯 7:01pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Dave and all!!!
	7:01pm dale: hey now prognosticators.
	7:01pm pot8o: hi!
	7:01pm TDK60: Hello, Complex Jockey of Discs, Dave.
	7:02pm Handy Haversack: It's go time! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
	7:02pm Kat in Chicago: Let's get prognoxious
	🤯 7:02pm chresti: Hi Dave and complicated music show!
	7:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...forget the Jabberwock my son - it's - the MANDLPRAWG.
	7:03pm Jackie G: Oh boy. Oh boy. Prog shop-talk
	7:03pm castor: there's no J in Italian, so it would be just jumbo like in English
	7:03pm Dave Mandl: Good evening and welcome, friends.
	7:04pm Mister Dobalina: It's pronounced Jambo. bit.ly... Click the lil speaker to hear so.
	7:04pm dday: www.howtopronounce.com...
	🤯 7:04pm Carmichael: Frumious MandlPrawg.
	7:04pm Dave Mandl: @Mister D: Thanks.
	7:05pm dale: they had a mellotron so i'm cool.
	7:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Just imagine the progibilities!
	🤯 7:05pm Carmichael: Jambo Be There.
	7:05pm Mister Dobalina: No problems, Mr D.
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: @dale: Of course they did.
	7:05pm StringOFperils: Jumboprongicus Rex
	7:05pm dday: Where's Jambi ?
	🤯 7:06pm chresti: Not ridiculously fast..
	🤯 7:06pm Carmichael: Mara Laga
	🤯 7:06pm HollyRT: Hi gang!! Hey Dave!
	7:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: And yet the Jumbotron is not even a musical instrument. 😕
	7:08pm dale: love jumbo.i need to go back to prog archives.com and just start poking around.
	7:09pm Dave Mandl: Hey Holly, Carmichael, chresti, dday, String, Mister D., Ken, dale, castor, Jackie, RRN63, Kat, Handy, TDK60, Will, Formaggio!
	7:09pm Handy Haversack: It means Long Road. Strap in!
	7:09pm dday: Hey Dave
	7:09pm ultradamno: I did a poll, and No beat Yes twitter.com...
	7:10pm HyperDose: Beatniks and slam poets rejoice!
	7:10pm Handy Haversack: It means "The Oucomballa." Strap in!
	7:10pm Kat in Chicago: Surprising No one
	🤯 7:11pm chresti: This is nicely recorded drums/percussion.
	7:11pm Pax: ♪ Dave can't use the pump because the vandals took the Mandel - I mean, the Handle ♪
	7:12pm mic_a: Ahh, I'm late for the Italian set. Hello and thanks, Dave.
	7:13pm dday: This has a Zappa/Mothers feel (with Chester Thompson, George Duke & Co.)
	7:15pm Jackie G: See? Prog is comparable to jazz. Both great musicianship.
	7:16pm ultradamno: Now I want to hear The Muffins
	7:16pm The Count of Al Dente: Round two. Howdy y'all! The giant latke is cooking now.
	7:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: McLauglin stylee gittar maybe. Little bit. Yeah somewhat Fusiony.
	7:16pm StringOFperils: Mahavishnu Orchestra/Return to Forever esque ?
	7:16pm Dave Mandl: @ultradamno: I'll be playing the Muffins at some point!
	7:17pm StringOFperils: ...yet more Gong mushroomy
	7:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: John *McLaugHlin ...bad speller & worse typist I am.
	7:18pm G: Been out of town for a couple of Mondays. Los Angeles, Shreveport. Exciting. Gotta catch up on two archives now.
	🤯 7:19pm Carmichael: This sounds like Camel, one of the Rhyader pieces.
	7:20pm Pax: I was thinking it sounds like a combo of the Dead and the Byrd's ala jazz.
	7:21pm castor: diciotto = 18
	7:22pm G: The Italian album title is “Prohibited to Minors Under 18.” Commonly seen in Italy.
	7:22pm Miss G: That was fantastic Dave Mandl! How do you pronounce Qatar?! Would you like to know how often people (even my own parents) mangle the pronunciation of my name? Look forward to prog archives!
	7:22pm Mister Dobalina: No noise rock?
	🤯 7:22pm chresti: Math Rock, huh.
	🤯 7:22pm Carmichael: How hard is it to pronounce "G"?
	🤯 7:23pm Elena: Fred Frith doing prog rock, interesting
	7:23pm HyperDose: Sounds like a Dance Gavin Dance riff 😍
	7:24pm Miss G: Carmichael, if you were saying "Qatar," you might see that "G" is not all it seems! L
	7:24pm Jackie G: There are many ways to pronounce Qatar. Even the people who live in Qatar pronounce Qatar differently.
	🤯 7:24pm chresti: I'm getting confused and lost track of whats what.
	7:25pm Miss G: OK to throw in, did it be discussed? Looks so interesting! <A brand new four CD or seven LP box set, Intrigue: Progressive Sounds In UK Alternative Music 1979-89, curated by Steven Wilson, will be released through Edel/Demon Records on February 10> it's like post-punk and prog. All the Ps! Make them give you one for fund drive, wow! www.loudersound.com...
	7:25pm lazy pierogi: sounds a lot like Tera Melos
	7:25pm Wendy del Formaggio: Did Dave just say, "This is the most rockin' piece of music I've ever heard in 7/4 time"? Reasons Why I Love WFMU, Example [infinity].
	7:26pm Handy Haversack: How're things up your way, Wendy?
	7:26pm Cooh John: Hello Dave and progers.
	7:27pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: Loving the show, Dave. as always, you're spinning rekkids that I haven't picked up myself. everyone out there, enjoy the holiday.
	7:27pm tim from washington: Hi Dave and everyone! I’m happy to be listening. Some go for prog rock, some go for math rock but stay away from meth rock. Meth rock gets expensive, it’s bad for your teeth and you feel guilty after your journey down that path.
	🤯 7:27pm BLCKDGRD: Thanks! I knew you'd get to math rock at some point, glad it's tonight!
	7:27pm Dave Mandl: @Wendy I said that exactly. I'm sure you'll agree.
	🤯 7:27pm HollyRT: What was the big math rock bank of the mid-90s? Slint?
	7:28pm Dave Mandl: @Holly: There were loads.
	7:28pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Handy! Really effin' cold really effin' suddenly. I'm still getting used to climate control in the new house. That said, I'm happy to be here, and life is good. You?
	7:28pm Noel: Does Throwing Muses’ album Hunkpapa count as Math Rock? There’s some really good stuff on it.
	🤯 7:29pm HollyRT: Liked that Floral piece. Very scrolly. Lots of curlicues
	7:29pm Kat in Chicago: Noel, def a good album, never thought of it that way but maybe?
	7:30pm Dave Mandl: @Holly: Yeah!
	7:30pm Pax: I'll take a stab at it and butcher it and say Qatar = Kay-tar?
	7:30pm Handy Haversack: Fast freeze here, too. Toes are cold, kittens are wild. Bit of a rough time last weekend, but this one was much more uplifting. Though still unaccustomedly cold! Who knew winter was still a thing?
	7:31pm Jackie G: Turning, spinning, Katherine wheeling.
	7:31pm Handy Haversack: Pax: I think it's technically more like "Gutter."
	7:31pm dale: forever changing, there's no beginning. turning through a charcoal sky.
	7:31pm Kat in Chicago: Warming up a bit here but I bought a parka this weekend cuz I think it's gonna be a cold one
	7:32pm Yetz: I think this is the 7/4 one, Wendy
	7:32pm Jackie G: Hope its Qa-tar, like guitar.
	7:33pm Dave Mandl: @Yetz: Yes.
	7:33pm Yetz: @Elena - Frith's first band Henry Cow was pretty damn proggy, people also call it Avant-Prog, and the label Rock in Opposition is applied as well.
	7:33pm dale: i bought a battery powered heated vest for motorcycle riding in winter and think i need to wear it indoors too.
	7:33pm Pax: @HH: I'll go with that.
	7:33pm Jackie G: Good, dale!
	7:34pm Yetz: dave: Is this from the original release or the reissue? IRRC the original was slight off-speed which got corrected on the reissue.
	7:34pm Jackie G: Killing Time is smart. And really good
	7:34pm Noel: I just bought a cassette-replacement CD of Hunkpapa last week. I should attempt to figure out those time signatures.
	7:34pm ultradamno: Did Frith do anything that wasn't at least somewhat proggy?
	7:34pm dale: maybe it's killing time signatures.
	7:35pm StringOFperils: Surgically dismantling time
	7:35pm Yetz: Later Massacre had Charles Hayward on drums and was even more awesome IMO
	7:35pm PaulRobeson1922: Kill Kill Kill
	7:35pm Wendy del Formaggio: I cannot identify time signatures other than 4/4 and the waltz one to save my life. But I know when something IS NOT in those time signatures. So, I appreciate anyone who can tell me.
	🤯 7:35pm chresti: There's something non-musical about massacre
	7:35pm Jackie G: Frith played on an Eno album or two.
	7:35pm JetBoy of Astoria: Hi all - Massacre I liked, good stuff
	7:35pm PaulRobeson1922: Kill, Kill, Kill for peace..
	7:36pm Yetz: ultradamno: right but with Fred it's a lovely lighthearded humorous type of prog, without the pretensiousness that gives much of the genre a bad name. he's so damn playful. absolute musical hero of mine.
	7:36pm StringOFperils: It's in weird Bulgarian time-signatures
	🤯 7:36pm SeaCreature: Frith solo guitar was wonderful.
	7:36pm ultradamno: There's some great footage on the you tubes of Skeleton Crew in which Tom Cora is reading while the song is going on, and that's pretty darn prog (and kind of one-upping PiL on American Bandstand)
	7:37pm Handy Haversack: The time signature? It's from Canada. You wouldn't know it.
	🤯 7:37pm chresti: I like learning what different time signatures sound like
	7:37pm Kat in Chicago: me too chresti!
	7:38pm Wendy del Formaggio: Me three, Chresti!
	7:38pm mic_a: Fred! Back in the 1970s he did a series of columns for NME about "Great Rock Solos Of Our Time". I had a devil of a time scaring up a PDF online a few years ago, but I did, and maybe it's still out there somewhere.
	7:38pm Kat in Chicago: oh yeah this one. I haven't thought about A Trick of the Tail in a while.
	7:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Wendy: I may be up to 5/4 - as in 'Take Five' by Brubeck: 1-2-3, 4-5...
	7:38pm joe mulligan: love this intro riff.
	7:38pm Handy Haversack: I like knowing that there are people around who are more competent than I am and can ID them for me.
	7:38pm StringOFperils: You can learn to clap time signatures. It's educational and it will drive you nuts.
	7:38pm dale: prince ripped off this opening for take me with u
	7:39pm JetBoy of Astoria: I was thinking of sheila b too, along with dreading genesis
	7:39pm djsheilab: You bet I’m listening!! And thank you for the shout-out and for Phil Collins-on-vocals-era Genesis!
	7:39pm Jackie G: Yeah, that first Genesis album without Peter Gabriel was all right.
	7:39pm Dave Mandl: @djsheilab: <3
	7:39pm Yetz: no idea what time signature that "Floral" was in but Killing Time was not hard to count out
	7:40pm Yetz: one trick is instead of trying to use numbers and say "one two three four" just drum your fingers along to the beat, going back to your index finger on the strong beat
	7:41pm Yetz: or whatever finger you start on. anyhow gotta run now, going out to dinner, love the show Dave, I'll be back next week for more fun.
	7:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Have I mentioned Genesis strike me as being like KingCrimson before puberty? I mean - this week... (Not a total dis btw.)
	🤯 7:41pm BLCKDGRD: I'll take Car, Scratch, Melt, Security
	7:42pm Handy Haversack: Yay, Sheila!
	7:42pm StringOFperils: It's Yes wanting to turn into Ultravox
	7:42pm PaulRobeson1922: Stay warm, Yetz! U need a scarf?
	7:43pm Kat in Chicago: Hahaaa SOp
	7:43pm PaulRobeson1922: Old pair of Gloves I found in the woods?
	7:43pm Handy Haversack: Gotta go start chopping stuff. Thanks, Dave! Will be listening on the Bathroom Boombox from the kitchen.
	7:43pm dday: Having seen Phil Collins drumming with Genesis, up close, numerous times between 73 & 75, I can attest to the fact that he was an amazing drummer. An absolute machine
	7:43pm JetBoy of Astoria: This was unexpected.
	7:43pm PaulRobeson1922: A 45 pistol?
	7:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Phil = Drummer - undisputed.
	7:43pm dale: better than neil peart dday?
	7:43pm Pax: Enjoy your Din Din Yetz Bobz
	7:44pm StringOFperils: Phil's two Brand X albums ain't too shabby.
	7:45pm Dave Mandl: @String: Fact.
	7:45pm dday: I saw Neil as well...in 82...surrounded by drums & things of every type..Phil could play like he did, on a small kit..I'll go with Phil
	7:45pm PaulRobeson1922: Going on means Going out. going out means going far and going far means returning
	7:46pm Jackie G: Are The Lounge Lizards considered Prog?
	7:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Another in 5/4 : 'River Man' by NickDrake. Notably noted by Ian MacDonald in 'Exiled From Heaven'.
	7:46pm PaulRobeson1922: How about the gun, yetz! I trust you, u don’t need to ask just take it whenever
	7:47pm ultradamno: Maybe some form of fusion postpunk jazz, though I'd just say jazz. Same for the more underappreciated Universal Congress Of
	7:48pm dday: Too many labels..as it says on SM Ken's T Shirt "Trust Us...It's Music" :)
	7:49pm ultradamno: Flying Luttenbachers could get into some prog adjacent areas though
	7:49pm Noel: Some of the signatures on Kate Bush’s The Sensual World might be Bulgarian. There are mind-blowing Bulgarian ladies singing on it.
	7:49pm StringOFperils: ^^ dday : exactamundo
	7:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Gotta give it up for Bulgarian ladysingers.
	7:50pm PaulRobeson1922: @Yetz: wfmu.org...
	7:51pm Jackie G: ...just for the sake of argument. The Sensual World is the first CD I bought.
	7:53pm Dean: Yes twice on WFMU in a day!
	7:53pm ultradamno: I would never argue that you bought anything else before that.
	🤯 7:54pm HollyRT: He's great!
	7:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The Consensual World is the first CD we bought together.
	7:55pm ultradamno: Dot Dash!
	7:55pm Dean: Again, a one-hour prog show...does not compute.
	7:56pm Dean: It's like a one-hour opera show. A physical impossibility.
	7:56pm Jackie G: Less is more. So to speak
	7:56pm mic_a: I forgot that.
	7:56pm HyperDose: Tom Dash is okay in my book. We'll try not to give him too hard of a time ;)
	7:56pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Great stuff, as ever, Dave! Have a great T'day!!
	7:56pm ultradamno: There's no rationale that puts The Grateful Dead as prog, right?
	7:57pm bleubombersune: Dave Thanks for the great music I saw Carmen open for Jethro Tull at the Nassau Coliseum
	7:57pm Jackie G: Right!
	7:57pm mic_a: Thanks Dave! Have a good off-week! 'Night all.
	7:57pm Dave Mandl: @bleu: I was at that show.
	7:57pm dday: John Glasscock's brother Brian was a damn good drummer as well
	7:58pm Noel: Kate B is the only person I can remember about whom John Leyden ever said nice things.
	🤯 7:58pm HollyRT: Night all
	7:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Melotronica
	7:58pm Jackie G: This was a fun hour. Thanks, Dave.
	7:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Dave. Your new show has paved the way for Jim Price to start playing Sumerian rock.
	7:59pm pot8o: thanks!
	7:59pm PaulRobeson1922: Great show
	7:59pm dale: thanks dave mandl! this is a groovy show. not another like it.
	7:59pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. You're the best. See you in two weeks.
	7:59pm Dean: Carmen was impressive, one of those prog bands with a special conceit, not mere symphonic over-the-topness. Kinda like Gentle Giant or Gryphon.
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~ Enjoy not being here.
	8:00pm StringOFperils: John Lydon did drop that Kate Bush anecdote about his mum saying 'that singer that sounds like someone drowning cats' or something to that effect
	8:00pm Dean: Or, I suppose, Magma.
	🤯 8:00pm Elena: Thanks!
	🤯 8:00pm chresti: Thanks Dave!
	8:00pm StringOFperils: Thanks Dave!
	8:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lydon's musical tastes (@ least) are not narrow.
	8:01pm Noel: Lol
	8:01pm TDK60: Thank ye for the tunes, Dave.
	8:01pm P-90: Another worthy edition, Dave
	5:39pm Lizardner Dave !: This show is now my #1 go to archive listen every week. Thanks Dave!

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from November 21, 2022

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November 21, 2022

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Yes	Five Percent for Nothing "Five Percent for Nothing" by "Yes"	Fragile	0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Jumbo	Via Larga "Via Larga" by "Jumbo"	Vietato Ai Minori Di 18 Anni?	0:01:39 (Pop-up)
Companyia Elèctrica Dharma	L'Oucomballa	L'Oucomballa	0:09:04 (Pop-up)

Floral	Marsh Partition "Marsh Partition" by "Floral"	The Second Floral	0:22:39 (Pop-up)
Faraquet	Sea Song "Sea Song" by "Faraquet"	The View from This Tower	0:25:57 (Pop-up)
Massacre	Killing Time "Killing Time" by "Massacre"	Killing Time	0:30:16 (Pop-up)

Genesis	Dance on a Volcano "Dance on a Volcano" by "Genesis"	Trick of the Tail	0:37:00 (Pop-up)
Doctor Nerve	NerveWare No. 2 "NerveWare No. 2" by "Doctor Nerve"	Beta 14 OK	0:42:46 (Pop-up)
Albert Marcoeur	La D'Dans "La D'Dans" by "Albert Marcoeur"	Album à Colorier	0:48:34 (Pop-up)

Carmen	Fandangos in Space "Fandangos in Space" by "Carmen"	Fandangos in Space	0:55:44 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	7:01pm Wendy del Formaggio: Yay! I get to listen live! Hello, Dave Mandl. Hello, everyone else.
	🤯 7:01pm Will thee Sound Guy: Hi Dave and all!!!
	7:01pm dale: hey now prognosticators.
	7:01pm pot8o: hi!
	7:01pm TDK60: Hello, Complex Jockey of Discs, Dave.
	7:02pm Handy Haversack: It's go time! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG! MANDLPROG!
	7:02pm Kat in Chicago: Let's get prognoxious
	🤯 7:02pm chresti: Hi Dave and complicated music show!
	7:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...forget the Jabberwock my son - it's - the MANDLPRAWG.
	7:03pm Jackie G: Oh boy. Oh boy. Prog shop-talk
	7:03pm castor: there's no J in Italian, so it would be just jumbo like in English
	7:03pm Dave Mandl: Good evening and welcome, friends.
	7:04pm Mister Dobalina: It's pronounced Jambo. bit.ly... Click the lil speaker to hear so.
	7:04pm dday: www.howtopronounce.com...
	🤯 7:04pm Carmichael: Frumious MandlPrawg.
	7:04pm Dave Mandl: @Mister D: Thanks.
	7:05pm dale: they had a mellotron so i'm cool.
	7:05pm Ken From Hyde Park: Just imagine the progibilities!
	🤯 7:05pm Carmichael: Jambo Be There.
	7:05pm Mister Dobalina: No problems, Mr D.
	7:05pm Dave Mandl: @dale: Of course they did.
	7:05pm StringOFperils: Jumboprongicus Rex
	7:05pm dday: Where's Jambi ?
	🤯 7:06pm chresti: Not ridiculously fast..
	🤯 7:06pm Carmichael: Mara Laga
	🤯 7:06pm HollyRT: Hi gang!! Hey Dave!
	7:08pm Ken From Hyde Park: And yet the Jumbotron is not even a musical instrument. 😕
	7:08pm dale: love jumbo.i need to go back to prog archives.com and just start poking around.
	7:09pm Dave Mandl: Hey Holly, Carmichael, chresti, dday, String, Mister D., Ken, dale, castor, Jackie, RRN63, Kat, Handy, TDK60, Will, Formaggio!
	7:09pm Handy Haversack: It means Long Road. Strap in!
	7:09pm dday: Hey Dave
	7:09pm ultradamno: I did a poll, and No beat Yes twitter.com...
	7:10pm HyperDose: Beatniks and slam poets rejoice!
	7:10pm Handy Haversack: It means "The Oucomballa." Strap in!
	7:10pm Kat in Chicago: Surprising No one
	🤯 7:11pm chresti: This is nicely recorded drums/percussion.
	7:11pm Pax: ♪ Dave can't use the pump because the vandals took the Mandel - I mean, the Handle ♪
	7:12pm mic_a: Ahh, I'm late for the Italian set. Hello and thanks, Dave.
	7:13pm dday: This has a Zappa/Mothers feel (with Chester Thompson, George Duke & Co.)
	7:15pm Jackie G: See? Prog is comparable to jazz. Both great musicianship.
	7:16pm ultradamno: Now I want to hear The Muffins
	7:16pm The Count of Al Dente: Round two. Howdy y'all! The giant latke is cooking now.
	7:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: McLauglin stylee gittar maybe. Little bit. Yeah somewhat Fusiony.
	7:16pm StringOFperils: Mahavishnu Orchestra/Return to Forever esque ?
	7:16pm Dave Mandl: @ultradamno: I'll be playing the Muffins at some point!
	7:17pm StringOFperils: ...yet more Gong mushroomy
	7:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: John *McLaugHlin ...bad speller & worse typist I am.
	7:18pm G: Been out of town for a couple of Mondays. Los Angeles, Shreveport. Exciting. Gotta catch up on two archives now.
	🤯 7:19pm Carmichael: This sounds like Camel, one of the Rhyader pieces.
	7:20pm Pax: I was thinking it sounds like a combo of the Dead and the Byrd's ala jazz.
	7:21pm castor: diciotto = 18
	7:22pm G: The Italian album title is “Prohibited to Minors Under 18.” Commonly seen in Italy.
	7:22pm Miss G: That was fantastic Dave Mandl! How do you pronounce Qatar?! Would you like to know how often people (even my own parents) mangle the pronunciation of my name? Look forward to prog archives!
	7:22pm Mister Dobalina: No noise rock?
	🤯 7:22pm chresti: Math Rock, huh.
	🤯 7:22pm Carmichael: How hard is it to pronounce "G"?
	🤯 7:23pm Elena: Fred Frith doing prog rock, interesting
	7:23pm HyperDose: Sounds like a Dance Gavin Dance riff 😍
	7:24pm Miss G: Carmichael, if you were saying "Qatar," you might see that "G" is not all it seems! L
	7:24pm Jackie G: There are many ways to pronounce Qatar. Even the people who live in Qatar pronounce Qatar differently.
	🤯 7:24pm chresti: I'm getting confused and lost track of whats what.
	7:25pm Miss G: OK to throw in, did it be discussed? Looks so interesting! <A brand new four CD or seven LP box set, Intrigue: Progressive Sounds In UK Alternative Music 1979-89, curated by Steven Wilson, will be released through Edel/Demon Records on February 10> it's like post-punk and prog. All the Ps! Make them give you one for fund drive, wow! www.loudersound.com...
	7:25pm lazy pierogi: sounds a lot like Tera Melos
	7:25pm Wendy del Formaggio: Did Dave just say, "This is the most rockin' piece of music I've ever heard in 7/4 time"? Reasons Why I Love WFMU, Example [infinity].
	7:26pm Handy Haversack: How're things up your way, Wendy?
	7:26pm Cooh John: Hello Dave and progers.
	7:27pm Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ: Loving the show, Dave. as always, you're spinning rekkids that I haven't picked up myself. everyone out there, enjoy the holiday.
	7:27pm tim from washington: Hi Dave and everyone! I’m happy to be listening. Some go for prog rock, some go for math rock but stay away from meth rock. Meth rock gets expensive, it’s bad for your teeth and you feel guilty after your journey down that path.
	🤯 7:27pm BLCKDGRD: Thanks! I knew you'd get to math rock at some point, glad it's tonight!
	7:27pm Dave Mandl: @Wendy I said that exactly. I'm sure you'll agree.
	🤯 7:27pm HollyRT: What was the big math rock bank of the mid-90s? Slint?
	7:28pm Dave Mandl: @Holly: There were loads.
	7:28pm Wendy del Formaggio: Hey Handy! Really effin' cold really effin' suddenly. I'm still getting used to climate control in the new house. That said, I'm happy to be here, and life is good. You?
	7:28pm Noel: Does Throwing Muses’ album Hunkpapa count as Math Rock? There’s some really good stuff on it.
	🤯 7:29pm HollyRT: Liked that Floral piece. Very scrolly. Lots of curlicues
	7:29pm Kat in Chicago: Noel, def a good album, never thought of it that way but maybe?
	7:30pm Dave Mandl: @Holly: Yeah!
	7:30pm Pax: I'll take a stab at it and butcher it and say Qatar = Kay-tar?
	7:30pm Handy Haversack: Fast freeze here, too. Toes are cold, kittens are wild. Bit of a rough time last weekend, but this one was much more uplifting. Though still unaccustomedly cold! Who knew winter was still a thing?
	7:31pm Jackie G: Turning, spinning, Katherine wheeling.
	7:31pm Handy Haversack: Pax: I think it's technically more like "Gutter."
	7:31pm dale: forever changing, there's no beginning. turning through a charcoal sky.
	7:31pm Kat in Chicago: Warming up a bit here but I bought a parka this weekend cuz I think it's gonna be a cold one
	7:32pm Yetz: I think this is the 7/4 one, Wendy
	7:32pm Jackie G: Hope its Qa-tar, like guitar.
	7:33pm Dave Mandl: @Yetz: Yes.
	7:33pm Yetz: @Elena - Frith's first band Henry Cow was pretty damn proggy, people also call it Avant-Prog, and the label Rock in Opposition is applied as well.
	7:33pm dale: i bought a battery powered heated vest for motorcycle riding in winter and think i need to wear it indoors too.
	7:33pm Pax: @HH: I'll go with that.
	7:33pm Jackie G: Good, dale!
	7:34pm Yetz: dave: Is this from the original release or the reissue? IRRC the original was slight off-speed which got corrected on the reissue.
	7:34pm Jackie G: Killing Time is smart. And really good
	7:34pm Noel: I just bought a cassette-replacement CD of Hunkpapa last week. I should attempt to figure out those time signatures.
	7:34pm ultradamno: Did Frith do anything that wasn't at least somewhat proggy?
	7:34pm dale: maybe it's killing time signatures.
	7:35pm StringOFperils: Surgically dismantling time
	7:35pm Yetz: Later Massacre had Charles Hayward on drums and was even more awesome IMO
	7:35pm PaulRobeson1922: Kill Kill Kill
	7:35pm Wendy del Formaggio: I cannot identify time signatures other than 4/4 and the waltz one to save my life. But I know when something IS NOT in those time signatures. So, I appreciate anyone who can tell me.
	🤯 7:35pm chresti: There's something non-musical about massacre
	7:35pm Jackie G: Frith played on an Eno album or two.
	7:35pm JetBoy of Astoria: Hi all - Massacre I liked, good stuff
	7:35pm PaulRobeson1922: Kill, Kill, Kill for peace..
	7:36pm Yetz: ultradamno: right but with Fred it's a lovely lighthearded humorous type of prog, without the pretensiousness that gives much of the genre a bad name. he's so damn playful. absolute musical hero of mine.
	7:36pm StringOFperils: It's in weird Bulgarian time-signatures
	🤯 7:36pm SeaCreature: Frith solo guitar was wonderful.
	7:36pm ultradamno: There's some great footage on the you tubes of Skeleton Crew in which Tom Cora is reading while the song is going on, and that's pretty darn prog (and kind of one-upping PiL on American Bandstand)
	7:37pm Handy Haversack: The time signature? It's from Canada. You wouldn't know it.
	🤯 7:37pm chresti: I like learning what different time signatures sound like
	7:37pm Kat in Chicago: me too chresti!
	7:38pm Wendy del Formaggio: Me three, Chresti!
	7:38pm mic_a: Fred! Back in the 1970s he did a series of columns for NME about "Great Rock Solos Of Our Time". I had a devil of a time scaring up a PDF online a few years ago, but I did, and maybe it's still out there somewhere.
	7:38pm Kat in Chicago: oh yeah this one. I haven't thought about A Trick of the Tail in a while.
	7:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: @Wendy: I may be up to 5/4 - as in 'Take Five' by Brubeck: 1-2-3, 4-5...
	7:38pm joe mulligan: love this intro riff.
	7:38pm Handy Haversack: I like knowing that there are people around who are more competent than I am and can ID them for me.
	7:38pm StringOFperils: You can learn to clap time signatures. It's educational and it will drive you nuts.
	7:38pm dale: prince ripped off this opening for take me with u
	7:39pm JetBoy of Astoria: I was thinking of sheila b too, along with dreading genesis
	7:39pm djsheilab: You bet I’m listening!! And thank you for the shout-out and for Phil Collins-on-vocals-era Genesis!
	7:39pm Jackie G: Yeah, that first Genesis album without Peter Gabriel was all right.
	7:39pm Dave Mandl: @djsheilab: <3
	7:39pm Yetz: no idea what time signature that "Floral" was in but Killing Time was not hard to count out
	7:40pm Yetz: one trick is instead of trying to use numbers and say "one two three four" just drum your fingers along to the beat, going back to your index finger on the strong beat
	7:41pm Yetz: or whatever finger you start on. anyhow gotta run now, going out to dinner, love the show Dave, I'll be back next week for more fun.
	7:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Have I mentioned Genesis strike me as being like KingCrimson before puberty? I mean - this week... (Not a total dis btw.)
	🤯 7:41pm BLCKDGRD: I'll take Car, Scratch, Melt, Security
	7:42pm Handy Haversack: Yay, Sheila!
	7:42pm StringOFperils: It's Yes wanting to turn into Ultravox
	7:42pm PaulRobeson1922: Stay warm, Yetz! U need a scarf?
	7:43pm Kat in Chicago: Hahaaa SOp
	7:43pm PaulRobeson1922: Old pair of Gloves I found in the woods?
	7:43pm Handy Haversack: Gotta go start chopping stuff. Thanks, Dave! Will be listening on the Bathroom Boombox from the kitchen.
	7:43pm dday: Having seen Phil Collins drumming with Genesis, up close, numerous times between 73 & 75, I can attest to the fact that he was an amazing drummer. An absolute machine
	7:43pm JetBoy of Astoria: This was unexpected.
	7:43pm PaulRobeson1922: A 45 pistol?
	7:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Phil = Drummer - undisputed.
	7:43pm dale: better than neil peart dday?
	7:43pm Pax: Enjoy your Din Din Yetz Bobz
	7:44pm StringOFperils: Phil's two Brand X albums ain't too shabby.
	7:45pm Dave Mandl: @String: Fact.
	7:45pm dday: I saw Neil as well...in 82...surrounded by drums & things of every type..Phil could play like he did, on a small kit..I'll go with Phil
	7:45pm PaulRobeson1922: Going on means Going out. going out means going far and going far means returning
	7:46pm Jackie G: Are The Lounge Lizards considered Prog?
	7:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Another in 5/4 : 'River Man' by NickDrake. Notably noted by Ian MacDonald in 'Exiled From Heaven'.
	7:46pm PaulRobeson1922: How about the gun, yetz! I trust you, u don’t need to ask just take it whenever
	7:47pm ultradamno: Maybe some form of fusion postpunk jazz, though I'd just say jazz. Same for the more underappreciated Universal Congress Of
	7:48pm dday: Too many labels..as it says on SM Ken's T Shirt "Trust Us...It's Music" :)
	7:49pm ultradamno: Flying Luttenbachers could get into some prog adjacent areas though
	7:49pm Noel: Some of the signatures on Kate Bush’s The Sensual World might be Bulgarian. There are mind-blowing Bulgarian ladies singing on it.
	7:49pm StringOFperils: ^^ dday : exactamundo
	7:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Gotta give it up for Bulgarian ladysingers.
	7:50pm PaulRobeson1922: @Yetz: wfmu.org...
	7:51pm Jackie G: ...just for the sake of argument. The Sensual World is the first CD I bought.
	7:53pm Dean: Yes twice on WFMU in a day!
	7:53pm ultradamno: I would never argue that you bought anything else before that.
	🤯 7:54pm HollyRT: He's great!
	7:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The Consensual World is the first CD we bought together.
	7:55pm ultradamno: Dot Dash!
	7:55pm Dean: Again, a one-hour prog show...does not compute.
	7:56pm Dean: It's like a one-hour opera show. A physical impossibility.
	7:56pm Jackie G: Less is more. So to speak
	7:56pm mic_a: I forgot that.
	7:56pm HyperDose: Tom Dash is okay in my book. We'll try not to give him too hard of a time ;)
	7:56pm Summer and Michael and Sylvia: Great stuff, as ever, Dave! Have a great T'day!!
	7:56pm ultradamno: There's no rationale that puts The Grateful Dead as prog, right?
	7:57pm bleubombersune: Dave Thanks for the great music I saw Carmen open for Jethro Tull at the Nassau Coliseum
	7:57pm Jackie G: Right!
	7:57pm mic_a: Thanks Dave! Have a good off-week! 'Night all.
	7:57pm Dave Mandl: @bleu: I was at that show.
	7:57pm dday: John Glasscock's brother Brian was a damn good drummer as well
	7:58pm Noel: Kate B is the only person I can remember about whom John Leyden ever said nice things.
	🤯 7:58pm HollyRT: Night all
	7:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Melotronica
	7:58pm Jackie G: This was a fun hour. Thanks, Dave.
	7:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Dave. Your new show has paved the way for Jim Price to start playing Sumerian rock.
	7:59pm pot8o: thanks!
	7:59pm PaulRobeson1922: Great show
	7:59pm dale: thanks dave mandl! this is a groovy show. not another like it.
	7:59pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. You're the best. See you in two weeks.
	7:59pm Dean: Carmen was impressive, one of those prog bands with a special conceit, not mere symphonic over-the-topness. Kinda like Gentle Giant or Gryphon.
	7:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~ TY Always DJ DaveMandl ~ Enjoy not being here.
	8:00pm StringOFperils: John Lydon did drop that Kate Bush anecdote about his mum saying 'that singer that sounds like someone drowning cats' or something to that effect
	8:00pm Dean: Or, I suppose, Magma.
	🤯 8:00pm Elena: Thanks!
	🤯 8:00pm chresti: Thanks Dave!
	8:00pm StringOFperils: Thanks Dave!
	8:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lydon's musical tastes (@ least) are not narrow.
	8:01pm Noel: Lol
	8:01pm TDK60: Thank ye for the tunes, Dave.
	8:01pm P-90: Another worthy edition, Dave
	5:39pm Lizardner Dave !: This show is now my #1 go to archive listen every week. Thanks Dave!

It's Complicated with Dave Mandl: Playlist from November 21, 2022

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