WFMU: Spin Age Blasters with Creamo Coyl: Playlist from November 16, 2021

Listener comments!
	3:03pm ultradamno: Creamo! Blastards!
	3:04pm Handy Haversack: Creamo and the Blastererereredeseseses!
	3:05pm ami ad: Hello DJ. Hello all.
	3:06pm Meefyt: to be clear, this is what it's supposed to sound like?
	3:06pm Meefyt: I don't think so...
	3:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...are you hung up?...
	3:07pm Ryansterlingvirtue: @meefyt if it were Thursday at this time, we would KNOW it was supposed to sound like this
	3:09pm Meefyt: Lol, I just checked Spotify, I doubt they ever would pull any weird shit. Michel's dog is sitting on the turntable
	3:09pm Morgan: love when i forgot fmu is stll on and it scares me in the pants
	3:09pm Ryansterlingvirtue: @meefyt lol
	3:10pm Morgan: his masters voice
	3:10pm Listener Robert: Series of egregious technical errors, or WFMU's usual programming?
	3:12pm morphe': Can I make a Bryce or Kenny G(FMU Kenny G) or Fabio comment without getting banned?? OOOPPPPSSSS !!! Never mind .... Love the show !!!! Not to be CRASS but ... Never mind .... Love the show !!!!
	3:12pm Listener Robert: Ryansterlingvirtue, yes, could be Thursday, or could be whenever Bryce is on these days.
	3:13pm Meefyt: then again, what do I know? Creamo's got some 'splainin to do
	3:14pm The Butterman: I take real enjoyment in good music…stuff like that. Surprising, huh?
	3:15pm Morgan: at least its jelling into something more rhythmic and musical. i thought it was the critter under my kitchen sink at first
	3:16pm The Butterman: My wife is about to make me turn this off.
	3:16pm Ryansterlingvirtue: @robert. Exactly, so hard to tell these days.
	3:17pm morphe': Ok so .. into the industrial pool .. Suisse guys made an amazing RUBE GOLBERG .. listen but watch the video en silence. Must stay with CC and the Video en mute Der lauf der dinge (the way things go). Fischli & Weiss https://www.facebook.com/earways/videos/570376236477565/
	3:17pm Listener Robert: Morphe, go back 40 years and there'd be a greater proportion of WFMU programs this could be typical of.
	3:20pm Listener Robert: Yeah, WFMU really sold out about the time they brought Nachum on. ;-)
	3:20pm Morgan: i still have Giant! etched in my brain for the rest of my natural life because of kenny g
	3:20pm Skyline chili: Hello Creamo wheat with coyl.
	3:21pm Marie: Hey Creamo, enjoying the show
	3:22pm Creamo Coyl: Hey y'alll thx fer liiisisnssineinenenenenne in
	3:23pm Handy Haversack: Butterman, I must look like a pretty nice girl to you.
	3:23pm morphe': The full Video Audio off - CC on !!! DER LAUF DER ZINGE [MY GIF contribution for today] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXrTlo1ytE0
	3:23pm The Butterman: Morphe, YOU dear lauf YOUR dinge! Ha ha been showing that to my art students for 23 years! Check out their list of how to work better: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdZ5fOGoYkZaIW9MzWHPEDVNoxaX987u1a-g&usqp=CAU
	3:24pm The Butterman: Oh! Handy! Frankly, no!
	3:25pm morphe': Butterman - yes - I know ya do good work .. I was NYC AlT HS Teacher for 27 years... I know ya do good work!!!
	3:27pm morphe': Butter - can ya not see/hear it working also with CC's sounds and their audio off .... ???
	3:29pm Morgan: it did pulsate
	3:30pm tim from washington: Controversial! Trifling! Hey Creamo and folks. Blast away, please.
	3:30pm Meefyt: so yeah, it was supposed to sound like that, mystery solved
	3:30pm Morgan: hot shit!
	3:30pm Meefyt: dang I must look like a real square
	3:30pm ultradamno: Things that don't sound like that aren't supposed to sound not like that.
	3:31pm Morgan: i dig this
	3:31pm The Butterman: I know ya know Morphe. I know what you have done too. Brothers!
	3:36pm Barney Grubbs: diese Scheiße ist heiß
	3:37pm morphe': CC - it is great show !!!! Do not mind my Spin OFF reflections which would not nor never happen had you not be spinning !!! Thanks So !!!!!! Do watch that Video.. I have no interest in flags or countries or professional futile, but going down the Madrid pub to root for UNDERDOGs for the World Cup: Wales over Belgium and Finland over France do not really care but UNDERDOG !!!!!!!
	3:37pm johnec: Hello Creamo and All! I am very confused after looking through this comments board
	3:38pm Morgan: nice pics from that bruce conner show Creamo. vicarious art
	3:41pm Creamo Coyl: Bruce Conner is my favorite band.
	3:43pm Juli: Fuck Synchronization while they are literally oming lmao
	3:43pm Marie: love this
	3:44pm Handy Haversack: Micah in the studio already?
	3:44pm Marie: Cats gan get diabetes and then return to non-diabetes
	3:45pm Marie: I watched part of a live spinal surgery (and I did not eat shrimp again for a while--don't ask!)
	3:45pm Morgan: you can plug an unsightly trepanning hole with a good rib
	3:45pm Marie: Hey, is this related to the McRib?
	3:47pm Marie: this is truly awesome--thanks, Creamo!
	3:48pm tim from washington: @Marie - that's why McRib's are not always on the menu. It takes time for new ribs to regenerate.
	3:49pm Barney Grubbs: my kid just got home from school and asked if this was true about ribs. Then she asked if it was the cult show.
	3:49pm ultradamno: McRibs do cleave to the Quarter Pounder and become one flesh... ...with cheese.
	3:50pm tim from washington: Oh yeah? That explanation of why women and men have the same skeleton BLEW MY MIND.
	3:52pm Marie: @Tim---LOL. I would love to see a documentary about the McRib, though maybe one has already been done?
	3:53pm Morgan: deadly concert stampedes
	3:53pm Morgan: satanic panic
	3:54pm tim from washington: Wasn't there a WASP 12" shaped like a circular saw blade?
	3:55pm tim from washington: That would be fun to see, Marie. There was the Simpson spoof of the McRib a long time ago that was pretty funny.
	3:55pm Morgan: hey you’re actually djing
	3:55pm ultradamno: There was definitely a Lee Renaldo 7" like that, I own it twitter.com...
	3:55pm Meefyt: okay Creamo convinced me to Swag 4 Life
	3:56pm Meefyt: talk about Dune!
	3:56pm Handy Haversack: Typical giant Hollywood crapfest was pretty much my instant guess of the absolute ceiling for this movie. Wait, did I talk about Dune?
	3:57pm tim from washington: Cool ultra! I've never seen that Lee record before.
	3:57pm Handy Haversack: Whoa, nice, Meefyt! Well played! Now you can talk about Dune all you want, and Creamo just has to sit there and take it!
	3:58pm ultradamno: Evidently there is a part in dune where someone says "look, there's the dune" That's gold, ponyboy.
	3:58pm Meefyt: Damn it, did I blow it? Maybe I should have signed up for swag 4 life during a marathon. Isn't the swag better then? Shit!
	3:58pm Fox: I'm gonna talk about Dune.
	3:58pm Don S: if we can't have Jodorowsky's Dune, WHO CARES? :^)
	3:59pm Creamo Coyl: Only Fox can talk about Dune.
	3:59pm Creamo Coyl: Supposedly they're finally making an Incal show?
	3:59pm Creamo Coyl: not incel!!!
	4:00pm Meefyt: Whoah I would watch the shit out of Incal. But Möbius dead?
	4:00pm Creamo Coyl: The Incel
	4:00pm Morgan: i too believe dune is a bore. it’s corny. the spice
	4:00pm tim from washington: I don't care what you guys say. I'm looking forward to watching Dune (and then get disappointed after my fears that it'll be a typical giant hollywood crapfest are confirmed). It's still gotta be better than Star Wars, right?
	4:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - always say - took to Middle-earth like I knew the place already. But Dune had me going to the Index too much for terms & I gave up. That was freaking HighSchool tho' & I should take another pop @ it... & FMUvians have warned me off any Sequels...
	4:01pm Fox: Last night, I got second row seats to a screening of Dune at the MoMA, and afterwards Villenueve and Oscar Isaacs came on stage for a short talk, during which Villenueve started talking about Oscar's last costume, one he'd stolen from the set, and pulled from his coat pocket a plastic bag containing Oscar Isaac's cock sock. It was grand.
	4:01pm Morgan: the original was a terrible waste of brad douriff
	4:02pm Morgan: lol fox
	4:02pm Ajay / Krommenie (NL): Hey man. Yeah that’s a Birthday Party shirt that I’m wearing on the latest King Champion Sounds album. Well spotted. And thanks for playing Telemetry last week. Ya rule!
	4:02pm ultradamno: The same director did Arrival, which I liked well enough, but he also did Prisoners, which was an excruciating wasted of time. I mean, Gyllenhaal as a cop decides to race a girl in a regular car without sirens or lights across icy roads rather than just RADIOING FOR AN AMBULANCE, just for the frantic driving sequence. Dumb
	4:03pm Fox: Noooooo. Don't be warned off the sequels. Frank Herbert's whole story arc was split up into the first three books. He originally pitched it to his editor as one, and the editor made him spread it out.
	4:03pm Morgan: now that’s interesting
	4:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fox - same as Lord of the Rings !
	4:03pm Handy Haversack: Oh, and Meefyt, it's the same swag list now that was available in the Marathon, plus the two new shirts, minus anything that they have run out of, as best I understand it.
	4:04pm ultradamno: But, the other one, Amy Adams cracking how to talk to space squids in their ink language...
	4:04pm tim from washington: That's funny, Fox - haha. Did you like the movie? RRN - I like the books a lot. I read them about 25 years about in my mid 20s. I'm planning on re-reading them again in the future.
	4:04pm Handy Haversack: Sometimes editors earn their money ...
	4:05pm Fox: I've only gotten as far as God Emperor of Dune. The audiobooks recently produced by Audible are EXCELLENT. I spent the Summer of Covid microdosing and listening to the Dune series while tanning on my roof.
	4:06pm ultradamno: But still, I give any movie not directed by Zack Snyder credit for being Snyder-free
	4:07pm tim from washington: Someone once told me that the prequels written by Herbert's son are good. I'm afraid to venture there though.
	4:07pm Creamo Coyl: C'mon, Fox, you're not gonna try and tell me you like the new Blade Runner either, are you? Dune I get cuz you like the books but that Blade Runner was lame. And I even like some of his movies (Enemy was OK). I new I shouldn't have opened up this can of giant sandworms.
	4:07pm Creamo Coyl: Knew it, even
	4:08pm Fox: Tim: the movie is amazing at aesthetics, pacing, tone. the acting feels a bit wooden. Not crazy about the Baron. But the music and sound design and the visuals had a serious impact. I don't know if it's good. I don't know if this is appealing to anyone who wasn't a fan of the books (and the Lynch film).
	4:08pm ultradamno: Until there's a version with sleeping electric sheep...
	4:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Also been said the basic Theme of Dune is too Imperialist. Tho generally over Decades been said to be Environmentalist...
	4:09pm tim from washington: Creamo - you got the a case of sour grapes bad, man. We all know Ryan Gosling stole your schtick and you're all grumpy about it.
	4:09pm Barney Grubbs: giant sand worms, I can handle, but a space dude named "Duncan Idaho" goes too far
	4:09pm ifeelfatnsassy: Haven't read the books, loved the movie. The only people I know who didn't enjoy the movie watched it at home. I found it to be a completely immersive experience in a theater.
	4:09pm ultradamno: The Lynch film, aside from a few effects, was worthwhile mostly for swearing him off ever not having final cut.
	4:09pm Creamo Coyl: But everyone knows Arrakis runs on Duncan...
	4:11pm tim from washington: Fox - I like your description. Sounds like I'll enjoy it then.
	4:11pm Barney Grubbs: good old Dunkin' Spicenuts
	4:11pm Creamo Coyl: The movie looks whatever. I mean, it cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It better look good. I think the entire plot and everything about Dune is lame and corny and the writing makes Tolkien look dynamic. Sorry!
	4:12pm Fox: Creamo - I .... don't HATE the new Blade Runner. I feel like that movie was as good as a Blade Runner sequel could have been. It kept the right sense of bleakness, some color palette, it felt like it took place in the same world (unlike, say Star Trek vs TNG), and it had long shots and didn't get cut to shit like most modern films. I can't be arbitrary about it, given my love for the original and for PKD. I can't see clearly through my own tastes and personal fervor.
	4:12pm tim from washington: The big question is does Dune knock Spaceballs off the top of all time greatest space movies?
	4:12pm ultradamno: But how can one not get invested in space spice wars, or whatever the fuck they're talking about?
	4:13pm Handy Haversack: They'll have to compare schwarzes to find out, tim.
	4:13pm Creamo Coyl: C'mon, Blade Runner sucked! You don't have to like it just cuz you like the thing it's from. Call it ou. It was boring as shit, looked like a sci-fi novel cover made flesh. I mean, that's OK. But, like, how about a good story?
	4:14pm Fox: Seriously though, the STAR of the film is the soundtrack. The sound and the shots instill a kind of koyaanisqatsi impact.
	4:14pm Creamo Coyl: It does make me wanna watch Jodo's Dune doc again. So there's that.
	4:14pm ultradamno: @Tim Funny you should mention that twitter.com...
	4:14pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, the new Blade Runner took me three tries to watch to the end. I kept falling asleep. I couldn't get enough whisky in me to make it to the end because I really didn't care what was there. And I deeply love the original.
	4:15pm Creamo Coyl: But they are making an Incal thing I guess. Even a shitty version of that will be better than Dune.
	4:15pm Fox: Creamo - To be fair, I think the original is just as boring as shit. It's terribly slow paced. There's little dialogue. It just looks amazing. The new one isn't as good because we aren't impressed by that level of set design or universe building as we used to be.
	4:15pm Marie: At the risk of offending peeps, I thought the original Blade Runner was seriously overrated
	4:16pm Creamo Coyl: They should have had Gaspar Noe do a new Blade Runner.
	4:16pm tim from washington: Has Fabio clocked in on the subject?
	4:17pm ifeelfatnsassy: I'm a big fan of Noe and that sounds like a terrible idea.
	4:17pm Creamo Coyl: Don't even get me started on practical FX vs. virtual!!!!
	4:17pm Creamo Coyl: No way, that sounds fun as hell.
	4:17pm Creamo Coyl: And I haven't even liked his last few movies.
	4:17pm Stephen O: It’s true. The original had the added value of camp which the new blade runner lacked. It just looks and sounds amazing
	4:18pm The Butterman: I’ve definitely ingested too much spice over the years. I too have a messiah complex. I doo time travel and have drunked the water of life… still here. Just sayin’
	4:18pm ultradamno: Is Rinse Dream still alive? Have him do it!
	4:18pm ifeelfatnsassy: On what level? Noe does trip horror well, visceral unease. That just doesn't sound like blade runner in any way.
	4:18pm Handy Haversack: Without Rutger Hauer, even the real world is just lame and boring.
	4:18pm tim from washington: I liked that Aliens prequel from about 10 years ago that no one seemed to like.
	4:19pm ifeelfatnsassy: Like, a Noe film in the Blade Runner universe could maybe work as a short, but I can't see him doing a proper sequel.
	4:19pm Juli: I liked Climax
	4:19pm Juli: Boooooooo
	4:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always come back to the simple observation : Too often even Great Directors forget they need a Writer. Writers are like Musicians - they've become third class citizens in the whole thing. We all need them & no one wants to pay them anything.
	4:20pm Juli: What?
	4:20pm Handy Haversack: Give Creamo Ewoks, you monsters!
	4:20pm Juli: I must have everything I like at all times or nothing.
	4:20pm Marie: One of the most common mistakes made in movies and writing is not paring things down enough--3 hours??
	4:20pm ultradamno: Prometheus? I think it was underrated but then I remember Idris Alba singing that "Love the one you're with" song and I get mad all over again
	4:20pm brycepunk1: That Model Home track was dope.
	4:21pm Threemoons: I got into a lot of trouble for saying that I liked Lynch's version better - I read ALL the books; it's just that the Lynch version gives you more info to follow along if you DIDN'T read the book. When I saw it with a friend of mine who had not read the book, he had sooooooooooooo many questions. NONE of the new DUNE makes sense if you didn't really read the books - not enough background given along the way.
	4:21pm Juli: I liked Prometheus
	4:21pm Juli: Grumpy crowd haha
	4:22pm ultradamno: We could get Matthew Barney to do it instead of Noe and then no one would get to see it.
	4:22pm Juli: Star Wars. Never saw them...not interested haha
	4:22pm Juli: WAIIIT I saw Rogue One really stoned so that doesnt count
	4:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All Form & no Content in other words ...Star Wars & Speilberg started it.
	4:23pm karlward: Short story about a guy who writes really successful Star Wars fan fiction but has never actually seen the canonical movies
	4:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: It does if you watch Movies stoned.
	4:24pm ifeelfatnsassy: Thought Rogue One was pretty good. The Star Wars Visions shorts on D+ have been surprisingly good on balance.
	4:25pm ultradamno: I saw the first Star Wars in a theater as a grade schooler and liked it well enough but by the time the others came out....I wanted horror not repackaged serials from the 50s
	4:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dune published in 1965. I'd've thot earlier - but yerknow SciFi culture was pretty underground & specialist until after Star Trek & into the 70s maybe... Revenge of the nerds...
	4:25pm Creamo Coyl: How about a movie called DUDE w/ a character called Duncan Idaho and he really like spicy chicken wings and he enters a contest and goes all the way to the World Championships? Doesn't that sound like something enjoyable? Do you think Gosling could dumb it down enough?
	4:26pm Handy Haversack: Didn't have to wait TOO long for Phantasm, ultradamno.
	4:26pm Handy Haversack: Duncan likes his chicken spicy!
	4:26pm Creamo Coyl: Just spitballing over here while I do a radio show...
	4:26pm karlward: Who is Gosling? Is he also in Star Wars?
	4:26pm Juli: Haha Gosling and his fucking smiling instead of lines I cannot
	4:27pm Will the Sound Guy: hi Creamo and alll!!!!! just got home from workand I've been listeninginginginginginginginginginging....
	4:28pm karlward: Help me Handy-won (-won is intentionally misspelled)
	4:28pm Handy Haversack: I think he's a kind of white wine, karlward.
	4:28pm johnec: Villanueve also did Sicario. I like that movie a lot. I personally thought the new Dune was really cool. Like Fox said earlier, the visuals and music alone were amazing. It made it worth the watch for me.
	4:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I was enuff of a SciFi geek I subscribed to Starlog & was hyped for StarWars before it came out (1977). It was gonna be 2001 Xs Tolkien & everything you could imagine. Well - it was some of that. & - it became the trendiest thing ever w/ lines round the block &tc. I went right off it - before the 2nd film was even done.
	4:29pm Juli: I agree most movies are too long like long Movies are usually too long
	4:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Funny - I think why not go longer rather than bowdlerize anything worthwhile. In the era of DVD extras & beyond. But OK so - Directors need Writers & also Editors...
	4:30pm ultradamno: @Handy Not to mention Alien (well the comic first, 'cause I was still to young), bringing us back to Ridley Scott
	4:31pm Juli: I minored in FILM but I would like to go back for lighting or stage design
	4:31pm karlward: After Olivia's show yesterday I want to see Star Wars with an all-new soundtrack by Robin Hatch (note: this was not discussed, but we were all thinking it)
	4:31pm karlward: Such a soundtrack would probably convince me to watch some of the other Star Wars movies, I trailed off during the prequels
	4:32pm Handy Haversack: Use the TONTO, Luke!
	4:33pm ultradamno: @karlward He's the guy in Drive. The movie that inspired a man to throw a hot dog at Tiger Woods. www.foxnews.com...
	4:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So much is going on in Society & the World - & nobody can Write any relevant Metaphors or Analogies. Like they're all trained to evade that @ all costs. I'm not even into Horror, but it does better job of that probly.
	4:35pm Fox: Three Moons: That's only if you watch the Lynch version for TV, with the added intro.
	4:35pm Marie: love this
	4:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...all so desperately risk averse ...the 1950s & 60s SciFi is probly so much more relevant cause it was Trash...
	4:35pm Creamo Coyl: More rumors: M. Night Shymalan is gonna do Slaughterhouse Five Christopher Nolan is gonna re-do A Wrinkle In Time David Lynch is gonna do Robotech live action
	4:35pm karlward: I would also settle for several feature length movies that fully explore the parody of COPS where the Storm Troopers are the cops.
	4:36pm karlward: I really like the idea of David Lynch doubling down and making an even longer and weirder Dune movie now
	4:36pm ultradamno: David Fincher was going to do Charles Burns' Black Hole, but it looks to be dead.
	4:36pm Creamo Coyl: Enud by David Lynch
	4:37pm Juli: David Lynch should do a Tom Robbins or Who DID FEAR AND LOATHING
	4:37pm Creamo Coyl: Wes Anderson's Fire Walk With Me
	4:37pm ifeelfatnsassy: Isn't Enud by David Lynch his fragrance?
	4:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fear & Loathing was of course Terry Gilliam ! ...You could ask Handy which SciFi to film & it'd be better. They're so up their own backsides...
	4:38pm Fox: ultradamno: duuuuuude, that'd be amazing. But I feel like that's Cronenberg's territory.
	4:38pm Creamo Coyl: Jodorowsky's Royal Tennenbaums documentary
	4:38pm Juli: Wes Anderson's Fire Walk With Me they all keep winking at the camera...that is all I can imagine about that haha
	4:38pm ultradamno: I'd like to see the close up of horse, broken casino chip, parrot, cup of coffee etc. Set to a The Creation song or something
	4:38pm Creamo Coyl: Just imagine those sets...
	4:38pm karlward: Bill Murray as the Log Lady, I am in, where do I send all my money?
	4:39pm Handy Haversack: Cronenberg already committed to bringing Apocalypse Pooh mainstream.
	4:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Bill Murray is LogLady.
	4:39pm karlward: No, Bill Murray is my Log Lady
	4:39pm Creamo Coyl: David Cronenberg remakes Meatballs
	4:40pm Handy Haversack: Lars Von Trier's Porky's.
	4:41pm ultradamno: That was Nymphomaniac, you aren't fooling me.
	4:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like they made the Banana Splits serial killers.
	4:42pm ultradamno: Christopher Nolan's Walkabout...a lot more mapping of where they walked
	4:42pm Handy Haversack: So pretty much Riverdale, Rev Rab.
	4:42pm tim from washington: I thought all of Lars Von Trer's movies were Porkys remakes.
	4:43pm karlward: キャディシャック (Kyadishakku, tr.: Caddyshack) directed by Katsuhiro Otomo
	4:43pm Creamo Coyl: Tyler Perry's Agatha Christie's Murder On The Orient Express
	4:43pm Handy Haversack: It's called an oeuvre, tim.
	4:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The SubGenius guys could really jump on this convo.
	4:43pm karlward: Providing the impetus for an anime version of Caddyshack would be the whole point of Western civilization
	4:44pm ultradamno: @RRN63 That is the scariest thing ever. I caught the choking scene by chance on SyFy a couple of weeks ago and gasped involuntarily. Martyrs couldn't get that done. Bag on LVT and I will fight you with knives.
	4:44pm Rev. Turnip Druid: sup
	4:45pm Creamo Coyl: live action Fat Albert from auteur Paul Thomas Anderson based on an original screenplay by Quentin Tarantino
	4:46pm karlward: So much money goes into these studios and we have ZERO live action Fat Albert to show for it
	4:46pm Fox: Side note: I finally got the surround sound speakers working right, and listening to your show has been an immersive DREAM!
	4:46pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Missed th'ENTANGLEMENTS! Must punch self, with a tasteful modern jazz filigree........ INNAFACE!
	4:46pm Creamo Coyl: Don't make me USE THE VOICE!!!!
	4:46pm lieutenant lambrusco: CMON LETS MOVE!!!!!
	4:48pm Fox: oooooooh. use the voice.
	4:50pm tim from washington: @Handy - c'mon now, you're using big words on me! What does hos d'oeuvres have anything to do with Von Trier?
	4:50pm Fox: OBJECTIVE is the word I meant to use in my above arguments, not arbitrary. I can't be objective about things like Blade Runner or Dune or Star Wars, because I either love or loathe them enough that it's personal, and not just critical.
	4:50pm drowsy: just stopping by to say this track is hitting the spot. thanks @Creamo Coyl
	4:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Was pretty sure after seeing some Anime that Japan was gonna own SciFi Cinema going forward...
	4:51pm ultradamno: The aforementioned Banana Splits scene twitter.com...
	4:51pm Marie: I cannot stand M. night shamalayan's movies!!!! So predictable and designed to pander to the masses, oh, and STUPID
	4:51pm ultradamno: Tom Six's entire MCU filmography
	4:52pm Marie: I think I might have seen one, if even that, but I have seen enough previews and people talking about them.
	4:53pm drowsy: Also to say that Von Trier is Porkys as Mamet plays where the women have to say it is indeed all their fault.
	4:53pm Marie: Great show, Creams, thanks!
	4:53pm drowsy: which is not an endorsement of either in case that was unclear
	4:54pm Handy Haversack: Also, Rev Rab, I don't think it's possible, and it flies in the face of the author's politics and aesthetics, but a movie of Perdido Street Station, if somehow done well (which I really don't even think is possible for Hollywood anymore and is probably pointless then for smaller makers), would be fascinating. But given that you really need an outsider for any chance of it being any good at all, best to scale down the grandeur of the story ... Hard to Be a God by the Strugatsky brothers could be a good, small, paranoid, grainy movie.
	4:54pm ultradamno: 🔪🔪🔪
	4:54pm Fox: I don't like anything about the Nolan Batman movies, except for Michael Caine and Gary Oldman and Eric roberts.
	4:58pm ultradamno: Nolan as a director racked up so much good will with Memento I kept thinking I like him even after watching and hating his four subsequent movies. Now I'm not even sure what I liked so much about Memento in the first place.
	5:00pm tim from washington: Is the movie about Zuckerberg any good? It' got and gets a lot of hype.
	5:00pm Handy Haversack: Word, Fox and ultradamno. That Social Network movie from a few years back, tim? I thought it was garbage of the stinkiest order.
	5:01pm tim from washington: That's good enough for me, Handy. I'll continue to avoid it.
	5:02pm ultradamno: The last M Night I saw was the kids visiting the fake grandparents movie. The ending where the kids have become stronger for enduring something that would cause lasting psychological damage in practice was the purest expression of nihilism I've ever seen in a movie.
	5:02pm Fox: Memento was a clever script and competent cast. I don't know that the directing had much to do with what was good about it.
	5:02pm Barney Grubbs: Handy, it would be interesting to see how any of Mieville's books would translate to film, though he probably wouldn't agree and the places are almost more important than the characters, which would make it even trickier. (Though he did do a totally bizarre run on a reboot of Dial H for Hero for DC comics)
	5:03pm ultradamno: Social Network was Fincher, but I agree, pretty bad.
	5:04pm ultradamno: @Fox He did co-write it. His version of Insomnia was the cracking point, I think, for me.
	5:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Or - how about: Audiophiles use their Music to listen to their Stereos, where most of us use our Stereos to listen to Music. Likewise, the CGI Blockbuster heads use supposed Writing / Ideas for no more than to show their dumb FX... They mistake Action ~ Adventure for SciFi. Partly that's the Future Shock of having more Tech inner palms than we can Grok already - & partly it's latestage Crapitalism running its propagandas o endless loop as Orwell & Huxley made explicit they would...
	5:04pm dale: hey now. some good noise and racket today (as always).
	5:06pm Fox: Rev: True. But then every so often, amazing scifi movies like Moon are made!
	5:07pm ultradamno: Well, Insomnia was right after Memento...so I still sat through the magicians movie, the batman movie and the top movie before the McConoughay in the wormhole movie...
	5:07pm Fox: ultradamno- Well then, maybe he's best at writing / directing, and not just adapting? Nolan films feel cold to me.
	5:07pm Zinn The Mood: Cool. This is totally Lizzy-like hard rock. Who is this Walter Smetak?
	5:08pm ultradamno: Well, he wrote Inception too, which is a master class in overplotting
	5:10pm chaos_in_la_la: remember when you destroyed a cello? that was about 4 years ago.
	5:10pm ultradamno: Charlie Kaufman probably looked at Inception after making Synecdoche and thought "dude, pare it down"
	5:11pm chaos_in_la_la: cello from ohio https://columbus.craigslist.org/msg/d/columbus-cello/7397849233.html
	5:14pm Barney Grubbs: wow, Smetak seems like an interesting dude: www.musicworks.ca...
	5:15pm Handy Haversack: I didn't know that, Barney Grubbs! I think I have all the prose and also subscribe to Salvage. But yeah, the Bas-Lag books would need an epic scale that would guarantee the mode of production would miss the point entirely.
	5:18pm dale: this is cool doom and gloom right here.
	5:18pm ultradamno: He kinds of gets relegated to an afterthought to Harry Partch but good stuff.
	5:19pm Creamo Coyl: I would never destroy a cello!* *except with a hammer, of course
	5:29pm dale: i pronounced it 'in her rear.' my wife grudgingly chortled.
	5:29pm Listener Robert: I figured you were trying to say "en arriere", meaning "before" or "earlier", or, in context, "ago".
	5:29pm ShelbyG: hey CC & fellow blasters
	5:30pm Morgan: the ravages of daylight savings time
	5:31pm Listener Robert: I see by the playlist that is indeed what you were saying. So congratulations, you pronounced it well enough for someone who knows the language to figure it out, which is all you can ask. As for people who don't know the language, it doesn't matter at all to them, right?
	5:31pm Morgan: depriving ourselves of serotonin increases our productivity or something
	5:35pm Handy Haversack: What's up, ShelbyG?
	5:37pm tim from washington: Yo Shelby!
	5:37pm ShelbyG: Hey Handy, I just got home from work a bit ago. Dark, some snow showers here & there. I really dislike this time of year. I am a big Mieville fan, btw.
	5:37pm ShelbyG: yo tim!
	5:39pm ultradamno: I just made a poll of Australian interest twitter.com...
	5:41pm Will the Sound Guy: hi Shelby!
	5:42pm Saltonstall: Creamy- can you follow this track up with 3 songs by Hail Mary on Vermiform Records?
	5:42pm ShelbyG: Hi Will!
	5:43pm tim from washington: I've always wanted to hear this record!
	5:45pm dale: this is great...
	5:45pm The Butterman: This sounds like Gus Bodenheim.
	5:46pm ShelbyG: I love this. So weird & interesting! Reading the bio...I'd never heard of this group before! Thx, Creamo!!
	5:47pm ultradamno: I don't think they allow Gus into most churches
	5:48pm Creamo Coyl: Armand Schaubroeck's King Of Comedy
	5:48pm Handy Haversack: Gonna say my thanks now, Creamo. Many monsters to feed in this dungeon, and I best get started on it. Thanks for a great show! See all Blastererersesess at the Operas of Christopher Nolan festival!
	5:48pm ShelbyG: I keep waiting for The Byrds "so you wanna be a rock n roll star" to kick in
	5:48pm Morgan: yeah they want to see you at mass, baby
	5:49pm ShelbyG: bye Handy!
	5:49pm The Butterman: True, Ultradamno.
	5:49pm tim from washington: See you, Handy!
	5:53pm ShelbyG: Thank you, Creamo, for a great show & really stoked to find out more about A.S.S. :)
	5:54pm ShelbyG: THAT, Creamo, DO THAT!
	5:55pm Morgan: thank you Creamo
	5:56pm ami ad: Thank you, DJ. Crew.
	5:57pm Morgan: yeah a lot of those eggheads are insufferable
	6:00pm Will the Sound Guy: thank you Creamo!!!!!!!!! have a great day allllllllll!!!!!!!!!!

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November 16, 2021: Regenerating Disco Sabotaged

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	New	Approx. start time
Body/Dilloway/Head	Body/Erase "Body/Erase" by "Body/Dilloway/Head"	S/T	Three Lobed	2021	LP		*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Irreversible Entanglements	Six Sounds	Open The Gates	International Anthem	2021	LP		*	0:16:58 (Pop-up)

Strictly Missionary	Noise Disco "Noise Disco" by "Strictly Missionary"	Heisse Scheisse	Astral Spirits	2021	Cassette		*	0:30:33 (Pop-up)
Moon Juice	A Slow Transistor "A Slow Transistor" by "Moon Juice"	Fuck Synchronization	self-released	2021	LP		*	0:36:26 (Pop-up)
bleed Air	Regenerating Rib "Regenerating Rib" by "bleed Air"	Abstruse Theories in Occult Christian Science (Learning by Listening Vol. 4)	Strategic Tape Reserve	2021	Cassette		*	0:42:52 (Pop-up)

Z aka Bernard Szajner	Visions Of Dune (Andy Votel Minimix)	Visions Of Dune	InFiné	2014	LP	orig. 1979		0:57:48 (Pop-up)
Ted Byrnes	+ Michael Foster "+ Michael Foster" by "Ted Byrnes"	Words Have Two Meanings	Foul Prey	2021	CD		*	1:07:52 (Pop-up)
Model Home	Crux of et All "Crux of et All" by "Model Home"	Both Feet en Thee Infinite	Don Giovanni	2021	LP		*	1:12:00 (Pop-up)

Anla Courtis and Stefan Neville	Sabotaged Pinata	Roots Of A Knob	Soft Abuse	2021	Cassette		*	1:22:24 (Pop-up)
CIA Debutante	Haixing Song "Haixing Song" by "CIA Debutante"	Music For Small Rooms	Ever/Never	2021	12"		*	1:32:20 (Pop-up)
Jackson Veil Panther & E B U	Voyeur	Voyeur EP	Avon Terror Corps	2021	MP3		*	1:39:39 (Pop-up)
Bad Tracking	Black Rew "Black Rew" by "Bad Tracking"	S/T	Avon Terror Corps	2021	LP		*	1:45:20 (Pop-up)

Unda Fluxit	Callous Umbrella "Callous Umbrella" by "Unda Fluxit"	Stone Ringing Sorrows	Ever/Never	2021	Cassette		*	1:56:10 (Pop-up)
Walter Smetak & Conjunto de Microtons	Plagio	Interregno	Buh	2021	LP	orig. 1980		2:03:09 (Pop-up)
bleed Air	Postdiluvian Linguistics	Abstruse Theories in Occult Christian Science (Learning by Listening Vol. 4)	Strategic Tape Reserve	2021	Cassette		*	2:16:22 (Pop-up)

Marion Brown	En Arrière "En Arrière" by "Marion Brown"	Le Temps Fou	Le Tres Jazz Club	2021	LP	orig. 1970	*	2:28:40 (Pop-up)
Armand Schaubroeck Steals	Scene 1 Armand (17 Yrs. Old) Confesses His Crimes To A Priest "King Of The Streets"	A Lot Of People Would Like To See Armand Schaubroeck ... DEAD	Mirror	1972	2LP			2:39:23 (Pop-up)

Aurie Hsu	Music Box "Music Box" by "Aurie Hsu"	Timara: Electroacoustic Music at Oberlin Vol. 2	Hanson	2019	LP	compilation		2:55:48 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:03pm ultradamno: Creamo! Blastards!
	3:04pm Handy Haversack: Creamo and the Blastererereredeseseses!
	3:05pm ami ad: Hello DJ. Hello all.
	3:06pm Meefyt: to be clear, this is what it's supposed to sound like?
	3:06pm Meefyt: I don't think so...
	3:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...are you hung up?...
	3:07pm Ryansterlingvirtue: @meefyt if it were Thursday at this time, we would KNOW it was supposed to sound like this
	3:09pm Meefyt: Lol, I just checked Spotify, I doubt they ever would pull any weird shit. Michel's dog is sitting on the turntable
	3:09pm Morgan: love when i forgot fmu is stll on and it scares me in the pants
	3:09pm Ryansterlingvirtue: @meefyt lol
	3:10pm Morgan: his masters voice
	3:10pm Listener Robert: Series of egregious technical errors, or WFMU's usual programming?
	3:12pm morphe': Can I make a Bryce or Kenny G(FMU Kenny G) or Fabio comment without getting banned?? OOOPPPPSSSS !!! Never mind .... Love the show !!!! Not to be CRASS but ... Never mind .... Love the show !!!!
	3:12pm Listener Robert: Ryansterlingvirtue, yes, could be Thursday, or could be whenever Bryce is on these days.
	3:13pm Meefyt: then again, what do I know? Creamo's got some 'splainin to do
	3:14pm The Butterman: I take real enjoyment in good music…stuff like that. Surprising, huh?
	3:15pm Morgan: at least its jelling into something more rhythmic and musical. i thought it was the critter under my kitchen sink at first
	3:16pm The Butterman: My wife is about to make me turn this off.
	3:16pm Ryansterlingvirtue: @robert. Exactly, so hard to tell these days.
	3:17pm morphe': Ok so .. into the industrial pool .. Suisse guys made an amazing RUBE GOLBERG .. listen but watch the video en silence. Must stay with CC and the Video en mute Der lauf der dinge (the way things go). Fischli & Weiss https://www.facebook.com/earways/videos/570376236477565/
	3:17pm Listener Robert: Morphe, go back 40 years and there'd be a greater proportion of WFMU programs this could be typical of.
	3:20pm Listener Robert: Yeah, WFMU really sold out about the time they brought Nachum on. ;-)
	3:20pm Morgan: i still have Giant! etched in my brain for the rest of my natural life because of kenny g
	3:20pm Skyline chili: Hello Creamo wheat with coyl.
	3:21pm Marie: Hey Creamo, enjoying the show
	3:22pm Creamo Coyl: Hey y'alll thx fer liiisisnssineinenenenenne in
	3:23pm Handy Haversack: Butterman, I must look like a pretty nice girl to you.
	3:23pm morphe': The full Video Audio off - CC on !!! DER LAUF DER ZINGE [MY GIF contribution for today] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXrTlo1ytE0
	3:23pm The Butterman: Morphe, YOU dear lauf YOUR dinge! Ha ha been showing that to my art students for 23 years! Check out their list of how to work better: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdZ5fOGoYkZaIW9MzWHPEDVNoxaX987u1a-g&usqp=CAU
	3:24pm The Butterman: Oh! Handy! Frankly, no!
	3:25pm morphe': Butterman - yes - I know ya do good work .. I was NYC AlT HS Teacher for 27 years... I know ya do good work!!!
	3:27pm morphe': Butter - can ya not see/hear it working also with CC's sounds and their audio off .... ???
	3:29pm Morgan: it did pulsate
	3:30pm tim from washington: Controversial! Trifling! Hey Creamo and folks. Blast away, please.
	3:30pm Meefyt: so yeah, it was supposed to sound like that, mystery solved
	3:30pm Morgan: hot shit!
	3:30pm Meefyt: dang I must look like a real square
	3:30pm ultradamno: Things that don't sound like that aren't supposed to sound not like that.
	3:31pm Morgan: i dig this
	3:31pm The Butterman: I know ya know Morphe. I know what you have done too. Brothers!
	3:36pm Barney Grubbs: diese Scheiße ist heiß
	3:37pm morphe': CC - it is great show !!!! Do not mind my Spin OFF reflections which would not nor never happen had you not be spinning !!! Thanks So !!!!!! Do watch that Video.. I have no interest in flags or countries or professional futile, but going down the Madrid pub to root for UNDERDOGs for the World Cup: Wales over Belgium and Finland over France do not really care but UNDERDOG !!!!!!!
	3:37pm johnec: Hello Creamo and All! I am very confused after looking through this comments board
	3:38pm Morgan: nice pics from that bruce conner show Creamo. vicarious art
	3:41pm Creamo Coyl: Bruce Conner is my favorite band.
	3:43pm Juli: Fuck Synchronization while they are literally oming lmao
	3:43pm Marie: love this
	3:44pm Handy Haversack: Micah in the studio already?
	3:44pm Marie: Cats gan get diabetes and then return to non-diabetes
	3:45pm Marie: I watched part of a live spinal surgery (and I did not eat shrimp again for a while--don't ask!)
	3:45pm Morgan: you can plug an unsightly trepanning hole with a good rib
	3:45pm Marie: Hey, is this related to the McRib?
	3:47pm Marie: this is truly awesome--thanks, Creamo!
	3:48pm tim from washington: @Marie - that's why McRib's are not always on the menu. It takes time for new ribs to regenerate.
	3:49pm Barney Grubbs: my kid just got home from school and asked if this was true about ribs. Then she asked if it was the cult show.
	3:49pm ultradamno: McRibs do cleave to the Quarter Pounder and become one flesh... ...with cheese.
	3:50pm tim from washington: Oh yeah? That explanation of why women and men have the same skeleton BLEW MY MIND.
	3:52pm Marie: @Tim---LOL. I would love to see a documentary about the McRib, though maybe one has already been done?
	3:53pm Morgan: deadly concert stampedes
	3:53pm Morgan: satanic panic
	3:54pm tim from washington: Wasn't there a WASP 12" shaped like a circular saw blade?
	3:55pm tim from washington: That would be fun to see, Marie. There was the Simpson spoof of the McRib a long time ago that was pretty funny.
	3:55pm Morgan: hey you’re actually djing
	3:55pm ultradamno: There was definitely a Lee Renaldo 7" like that, I own it twitter.com...
	3:55pm Meefyt: okay Creamo convinced me to Swag 4 Life
	3:56pm Meefyt: talk about Dune!
	3:56pm Handy Haversack: Typical giant Hollywood crapfest was pretty much my instant guess of the absolute ceiling for this movie. Wait, did I talk about Dune?
	3:57pm tim from washington: Cool ultra! I've never seen that Lee record before.
	3:57pm Handy Haversack: Whoa, nice, Meefyt! Well played! Now you can talk about Dune all you want, and Creamo just has to sit there and take it!
	3:58pm ultradamno: Evidently there is a part in dune where someone says "look, there's the dune" That's gold, ponyboy.
	3:58pm Meefyt: Damn it, did I blow it? Maybe I should have signed up for swag 4 life during a marathon. Isn't the swag better then? Shit!
	3:58pm Fox: I'm gonna talk about Dune.
	3:58pm Don S: if we can't have Jodorowsky's Dune, WHO CARES? :^)
	3:59pm Creamo Coyl: Only Fox can talk about Dune.
	3:59pm Creamo Coyl: Supposedly they're finally making an Incal show?
	3:59pm Creamo Coyl: not incel!!!
	4:00pm Meefyt: Whoah I would watch the shit out of Incal. But Möbius dead?
	4:00pm Creamo Coyl: The Incel
	4:00pm Morgan: i too believe dune is a bore. it’s corny. the spice
	4:00pm tim from washington: I don't care what you guys say. I'm looking forward to watching Dune (and then get disappointed after my fears that it'll be a typical giant hollywood crapfest are confirmed). It's still gotta be better than Star Wars, right?
	4:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - always say - took to Middle-earth like I knew the place already. But Dune had me going to the Index too much for terms & I gave up. That was freaking HighSchool tho' & I should take another pop @ it... & FMUvians have warned me off any Sequels...
	4:01pm Fox: Last night, I got second row seats to a screening of Dune at the MoMA, and afterwards Villenueve and Oscar Isaacs came on stage for a short talk, during which Villenueve started talking about Oscar's last costume, one he'd stolen from the set, and pulled from his coat pocket a plastic bag containing Oscar Isaac's cock sock. It was grand.
	4:01pm Morgan: the original was a terrible waste of brad douriff
	4:02pm Morgan: lol fox
	4:02pm Ajay / Krommenie (NL): Hey man. Yeah that’s a Birthday Party shirt that I’m wearing on the latest King Champion Sounds album. Well spotted. And thanks for playing Telemetry last week. Ya rule!
	4:02pm ultradamno: The same director did Arrival, which I liked well enough, but he also did Prisoners, which was an excruciating wasted of time. I mean, Gyllenhaal as a cop decides to race a girl in a regular car without sirens or lights across icy roads rather than just RADIOING FOR AN AMBULANCE, just for the frantic driving sequence. Dumb
	4:03pm Fox: Noooooo. Don't be warned off the sequels. Frank Herbert's whole story arc was split up into the first three books. He originally pitched it to his editor as one, and the editor made him spread it out.
	4:03pm Morgan: now that’s interesting
	4:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fox - same as Lord of the Rings !
	4:03pm Handy Haversack: Oh, and Meefyt, it's the same swag list now that was available in the Marathon, plus the two new shirts, minus anything that they have run out of, as best I understand it.
	4:04pm ultradamno: But, the other one, Amy Adams cracking how to talk to space squids in their ink language...
	4:04pm tim from washington: That's funny, Fox - haha. Did you like the movie? RRN - I like the books a lot. I read them about 25 years about in my mid 20s. I'm planning on re-reading them again in the future.
	4:04pm Handy Haversack: Sometimes editors earn their money ...
	4:05pm Fox: I've only gotten as far as God Emperor of Dune. The audiobooks recently produced by Audible are EXCELLENT. I spent the Summer of Covid microdosing and listening to the Dune series while tanning on my roof.
	4:06pm ultradamno: But still, I give any movie not directed by Zack Snyder credit for being Snyder-free
	4:07pm tim from washington: Someone once told me that the prequels written by Herbert's son are good. I'm afraid to venture there though.
	4:07pm Creamo Coyl: C'mon, Fox, you're not gonna try and tell me you like the new Blade Runner either, are you? Dune I get cuz you like the books but that Blade Runner was lame. And I even like some of his movies (Enemy was OK). I new I shouldn't have opened up this can of giant sandworms.
	4:07pm Creamo Coyl: Knew it, even
	4:08pm Fox: Tim: the movie is amazing at aesthetics, pacing, tone. the acting feels a bit wooden. Not crazy about the Baron. But the music and sound design and the visuals had a serious impact. I don't know if it's good. I don't know if this is appealing to anyone who wasn't a fan of the books (and the Lynch film).
	4:08pm ultradamno: Until there's a version with sleeping electric sheep...
	4:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Also been said the basic Theme of Dune is too Imperialist. Tho generally over Decades been said to be Environmentalist...
	4:09pm tim from washington: Creamo - you got the a case of sour grapes bad, man. We all know Ryan Gosling stole your schtick and you're all grumpy about it.
	4:09pm Barney Grubbs: giant sand worms, I can handle, but a space dude named "Duncan Idaho" goes too far
	4:09pm ifeelfatnsassy: Haven't read the books, loved the movie. The only people I know who didn't enjoy the movie watched it at home. I found it to be a completely immersive experience in a theater.
	4:09pm ultradamno: The Lynch film, aside from a few effects, was worthwhile mostly for swearing him off ever not having final cut.
	4:09pm Creamo Coyl: But everyone knows Arrakis runs on Duncan...
	4:11pm tim from washington: Fox - I like your description. Sounds like I'll enjoy it then.
	4:11pm Barney Grubbs: good old Dunkin' Spicenuts
	4:11pm Creamo Coyl: The movie looks whatever. I mean, it cost hundreds of millions of dollars. It better look good. I think the entire plot and everything about Dune is lame and corny and the writing makes Tolkien look dynamic. Sorry!
	4:12pm Fox: Creamo - I .... don't HATE the new Blade Runner. I feel like that movie was as good as a Blade Runner sequel could have been. It kept the right sense of bleakness, some color palette, it felt like it took place in the same world (unlike, say Star Trek vs TNG), and it had long shots and didn't get cut to shit like most modern films. I can't be arbitrary about it, given my love for the original and for PKD. I can't see clearly through my own tastes and personal fervor.
	4:12pm tim from washington: The big question is does Dune knock Spaceballs off the top of all time greatest space movies?
	4:12pm ultradamno: But how can one not get invested in space spice wars, or whatever the fuck they're talking about?
	4:13pm Handy Haversack: They'll have to compare schwarzes to find out, tim.
	4:13pm Creamo Coyl: C'mon, Blade Runner sucked! You don't have to like it just cuz you like the thing it's from. Call it ou. It was boring as shit, looked like a sci-fi novel cover made flesh. I mean, that's OK. But, like, how about a good story?
	4:14pm Fox: Seriously though, the STAR of the film is the soundtrack. The sound and the shots instill a kind of koyaanisqatsi impact.
	4:14pm Creamo Coyl: It does make me wanna watch Jodo's Dune doc again. So there's that.
	4:14pm ultradamno: @Tim Funny you should mention that twitter.com...
	4:14pm Handy Haversack: Yeah, the new Blade Runner took me three tries to watch to the end. I kept falling asleep. I couldn't get enough whisky in me to make it to the end because I really didn't care what was there. And I deeply love the original.
	4:15pm Creamo Coyl: But they are making an Incal thing I guess. Even a shitty version of that will be better than Dune.
	4:15pm Fox: Creamo - To be fair, I think the original is just as boring as shit. It's terribly slow paced. There's little dialogue. It just looks amazing. The new one isn't as good because we aren't impressed by that level of set design or universe building as we used to be.
	4:15pm Marie: At the risk of offending peeps, I thought the original Blade Runner was seriously overrated
	4:16pm Creamo Coyl: They should have had Gaspar Noe do a new Blade Runner.
	4:16pm tim from washington: Has Fabio clocked in on the subject?
	4:17pm ifeelfatnsassy: I'm a big fan of Noe and that sounds like a terrible idea.
	4:17pm Creamo Coyl: Don't even get me started on practical FX vs. virtual!!!!
	4:17pm Creamo Coyl: No way, that sounds fun as hell.
	4:17pm Creamo Coyl: And I haven't even liked his last few movies.
	4:17pm Stephen O: It’s true. The original had the added value of camp which the new blade runner lacked. It just looks and sounds amazing
	4:18pm The Butterman: I’ve definitely ingested too much spice over the years. I too have a messiah complex. I doo time travel and have drunked the water of life… still here. Just sayin’
	4:18pm ultradamno: Is Rinse Dream still alive? Have him do it!
	4:18pm ifeelfatnsassy: On what level? Noe does trip horror well, visceral unease. That just doesn't sound like blade runner in any way.
	4:18pm Handy Haversack: Without Rutger Hauer, even the real world is just lame and boring.
	4:18pm tim from washington: I liked that Aliens prequel from about 10 years ago that no one seemed to like.
	4:19pm ifeelfatnsassy: Like, a Noe film in the Blade Runner universe could maybe work as a short, but I can't see him doing a proper sequel.
	4:19pm Juli: I liked Climax
	4:19pm Juli: Boooooooo
	4:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always come back to the simple observation : Too often even Great Directors forget they need a Writer. Writers are like Musicians - they've become third class citizens in the whole thing. We all need them & no one wants to pay them anything.
	4:20pm Juli: What?
	4:20pm Handy Haversack: Give Creamo Ewoks, you monsters!
	4:20pm Juli: I must have everything I like at all times or nothing.
	4:20pm Marie: One of the most common mistakes made in movies and writing is not paring things down enough--3 hours??
	4:20pm ultradamno: Prometheus? I think it was underrated but then I remember Idris Alba singing that "Love the one you're with" song and I get mad all over again
	4:20pm brycepunk1: That Model Home track was dope.
	4:21pm Threemoons: I got into a lot of trouble for saying that I liked Lynch's version better - I read ALL the books; it's just that the Lynch version gives you more info to follow along if you DIDN'T read the book. When I saw it with a friend of mine who had not read the book, he had sooooooooooooo many questions. NONE of the new DUNE makes sense if you didn't really read the books - not enough background given along the way.
	4:21pm Juli: I liked Prometheus
	4:21pm Juli: Grumpy crowd haha
	4:22pm ultradamno: We could get Matthew Barney to do it instead of Noe and then no one would get to see it.
	4:22pm Juli: Star Wars. Never saw them...not interested haha
	4:22pm Juli: WAIIIT I saw Rogue One really stoned so that doesnt count
	4:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: All Form & no Content in other words ...Star Wars & Speilberg started it.
	4:23pm karlward: Short story about a guy who writes really successful Star Wars fan fiction but has never actually seen the canonical movies
	4:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: It does if you watch Movies stoned.
	4:24pm ifeelfatnsassy: Thought Rogue One was pretty good. The Star Wars Visions shorts on D+ have been surprisingly good on balance.
	4:25pm ultradamno: I saw the first Star Wars in a theater as a grade schooler and liked it well enough but by the time the others came out....I wanted horror not repackaged serials from the 50s
	4:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dune published in 1965. I'd've thot earlier - but yerknow SciFi culture was pretty underground & specialist until after Star Trek & into the 70s maybe... Revenge of the nerds...
	4:25pm Creamo Coyl: How about a movie called DUDE w/ a character called Duncan Idaho and he really like spicy chicken wings and he enters a contest and goes all the way to the World Championships? Doesn't that sound like something enjoyable? Do you think Gosling could dumb it down enough?
	4:26pm Handy Haversack: Didn't have to wait TOO long for Phantasm, ultradamno.
	4:26pm Handy Haversack: Duncan likes his chicken spicy!
	4:26pm Creamo Coyl: Just spitballing over here while I do a radio show...
	4:26pm karlward: Who is Gosling? Is he also in Star Wars?
	4:26pm Juli: Haha Gosling and his fucking smiling instead of lines I cannot
	4:27pm Will the Sound Guy: hi Creamo and alll!!!!! just got home from workand I've been listeninginginginginginginginginginging....
	4:28pm karlward: Help me Handy-won (-won is intentionally misspelled)
	4:28pm Handy Haversack: I think he's a kind of white wine, karlward.
	4:28pm johnec: Villanueve also did Sicario. I like that movie a lot. I personally thought the new Dune was really cool. Like Fox said earlier, the visuals and music alone were amazing. It made it worth the watch for me.
	4:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I was enuff of a SciFi geek I subscribed to Starlog & was hyped for StarWars before it came out (1977). It was gonna be 2001 Xs Tolkien & everything you could imagine. Well - it was some of that. & - it became the trendiest thing ever w/ lines round the block &tc. I went right off it - before the 2nd film was even done.
	4:29pm Juli: I agree most movies are too long like long Movies are usually too long
	4:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Funny - I think why not go longer rather than bowdlerize anything worthwhile. In the era of DVD extras & beyond. But OK so - Directors need Writers & also Editors...
	4:30pm ultradamno: @Handy Not to mention Alien (well the comic first, 'cause I was still to young), bringing us back to Ridley Scott
	4:31pm Juli: I minored in FILM but I would like to go back for lighting or stage design
	4:31pm karlward: After Olivia's show yesterday I want to see Star Wars with an all-new soundtrack by Robin Hatch (note: this was not discussed, but we were all thinking it)
	4:31pm karlward: Such a soundtrack would probably convince me to watch some of the other Star Wars movies, I trailed off during the prequels
	4:32pm Handy Haversack: Use the TONTO, Luke!
	4:33pm ultradamno: @karlward He's the guy in Drive. The movie that inspired a man to throw a hot dog at Tiger Woods. www.foxnews.com...
	4:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: So much is going on in Society & the World - & nobody can Write any relevant Metaphors or Analogies. Like they're all trained to evade that @ all costs. I'm not even into Horror, but it does better job of that probly.
	4:35pm Fox: Three Moons: That's only if you watch the Lynch version for TV, with the added intro.
	4:35pm Marie: love this
	4:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...all so desperately risk averse ...the 1950s & 60s SciFi is probly so much more relevant cause it was Trash...
	4:35pm Creamo Coyl: More rumors: M. Night Shymalan is gonna do Slaughterhouse Five Christopher Nolan is gonna re-do A Wrinkle In Time David Lynch is gonna do Robotech live action
	4:35pm karlward: I would also settle for several feature length movies that fully explore the parody of COPS where the Storm Troopers are the cops.
	4:36pm karlward: I really like the idea of David Lynch doubling down and making an even longer and weirder Dune movie now
	4:36pm ultradamno: David Fincher was going to do Charles Burns' Black Hole, but it looks to be dead.
	4:36pm Creamo Coyl: Enud by David Lynch
	4:37pm Juli: David Lynch should do a Tom Robbins or Who DID FEAR AND LOATHING
	4:37pm Creamo Coyl: Wes Anderson's Fire Walk With Me
	4:37pm ifeelfatnsassy: Isn't Enud by David Lynch his fragrance?
	4:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Fear & Loathing was of course Terry Gilliam ! ...You could ask Handy which SciFi to film & it'd be better. They're so up their own backsides...
	4:38pm Fox: ultradamno: duuuuuude, that'd be amazing. But I feel like that's Cronenberg's territory.
	4:38pm Creamo Coyl: Jodorowsky's Royal Tennenbaums documentary
	4:38pm Juli: Wes Anderson's Fire Walk With Me they all keep winking at the camera...that is all I can imagine about that haha
	4:38pm ultradamno: I'd like to see the close up of horse, broken casino chip, parrot, cup of coffee etc. Set to a The Creation song or something
	4:38pm Creamo Coyl: Just imagine those sets...
	4:38pm karlward: Bill Murray as the Log Lady, I am in, where do I send all my money?
	4:39pm Handy Haversack: Cronenberg already committed to bringing Apocalypse Pooh mainstream.
	4:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Bill Murray is LogLady.
	4:39pm karlward: No, Bill Murray is my Log Lady
	4:39pm Creamo Coyl: David Cronenberg remakes Meatballs
	4:40pm Handy Haversack: Lars Von Trier's Porky's.
	4:41pm ultradamno: That was Nymphomaniac, you aren't fooling me.
	4:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Like they made the Banana Splits serial killers.
	4:42pm ultradamno: Christopher Nolan's Walkabout...a lot more mapping of where they walked
	4:42pm Handy Haversack: So pretty much Riverdale, Rev Rab.
	4:42pm tim from washington: I thought all of Lars Von Trer's movies were Porkys remakes.
	4:43pm karlward: キャディシャック (Kyadishakku, tr.: Caddyshack) directed by Katsuhiro Otomo
	4:43pm Creamo Coyl: Tyler Perry's Agatha Christie's Murder On The Orient Express
	4:43pm Handy Haversack: It's called an oeuvre, tim.
	4:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: The SubGenius guys could really jump on this convo.
	4:43pm karlward: Providing the impetus for an anime version of Caddyshack would be the whole point of Western civilization
	4:44pm ultradamno: @RRN63 That is the scariest thing ever. I caught the choking scene by chance on SyFy a couple of weeks ago and gasped involuntarily. Martyrs couldn't get that done. Bag on LVT and I will fight you with knives.
	4:44pm Rev. Turnip Druid: sup
	4:45pm Creamo Coyl: live action Fat Albert from auteur Paul Thomas Anderson based on an original screenplay by Quentin Tarantino
	4:46pm karlward: So much money goes into these studios and we have ZERO live action Fat Albert to show for it
	4:46pm Fox: Side note: I finally got the surround sound speakers working right, and listening to your show has been an immersive DREAM!
	4:46pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Missed th'ENTANGLEMENTS! Must punch self, with a tasteful modern jazz filigree........ INNAFACE!
	4:46pm Creamo Coyl: Don't make me USE THE VOICE!!!!
	4:46pm lieutenant lambrusco: CMON LETS MOVE!!!!!
	4:48pm Fox: oooooooh. use the voice.
	4:50pm tim from washington: @Handy - c'mon now, you're using big words on me! What does hos d'oeuvres have anything to do with Von Trier?
	4:50pm Fox: OBJECTIVE is the word I meant to use in my above arguments, not arbitrary. I can't be objective about things like Blade Runner or Dune or Star Wars, because I either love or loathe them enough that it's personal, and not just critical.
	4:50pm drowsy: just stopping by to say this track is hitting the spot. thanks @Creamo Coyl
	4:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Was pretty sure after seeing some Anime that Japan was gonna own SciFi Cinema going forward...
	4:51pm ultradamno: The aforementioned Banana Splits scene twitter.com...
	4:51pm Marie: I cannot stand M. night shamalayan's movies!!!! So predictable and designed to pander to the masses, oh, and STUPID
	4:51pm ultradamno: Tom Six's entire MCU filmography
	4:52pm Marie: I think I might have seen one, if even that, but I have seen enough previews and people talking about them.
	4:53pm drowsy: Also to say that Von Trier is Porkys as Mamet plays where the women have to say it is indeed all their fault.
	4:53pm Marie: Great show, Creams, thanks!
	4:53pm drowsy: which is not an endorsement of either in case that was unclear
	4:54pm Handy Haversack: Also, Rev Rab, I don't think it's possible, and it flies in the face of the author's politics and aesthetics, but a movie of Perdido Street Station, if somehow done well (which I really don't even think is possible for Hollywood anymore and is probably pointless then for smaller makers), would be fascinating. But given that you really need an outsider for any chance of it being any good at all, best to scale down the grandeur of the story ... Hard to Be a God by the Strugatsky brothers could be a good, small, paranoid, grainy movie.
	4:54pm ultradamno: 🔪🔪🔪
	4:54pm Fox: I don't like anything about the Nolan Batman movies, except for Michael Caine and Gary Oldman and Eric roberts.
	4:58pm ultradamno: Nolan as a director racked up so much good will with Memento I kept thinking I like him even after watching and hating his four subsequent movies. Now I'm not even sure what I liked so much about Memento in the first place.
	5:00pm tim from washington: Is the movie about Zuckerberg any good? It' got and gets a lot of hype.
	5:00pm Handy Haversack: Word, Fox and ultradamno. That Social Network movie from a few years back, tim? I thought it was garbage of the stinkiest order.
	5:01pm tim from washington: That's good enough for me, Handy. I'll continue to avoid it.
	5:02pm ultradamno: The last M Night I saw was the kids visiting the fake grandparents movie. The ending where the kids have become stronger for enduring something that would cause lasting psychological damage in practice was the purest expression of nihilism I've ever seen in a movie.
	5:02pm Fox: Memento was a clever script and competent cast. I don't know that the directing had much to do with what was good about it.
	5:02pm Barney Grubbs: Handy, it would be interesting to see how any of Mieville's books would translate to film, though he probably wouldn't agree and the places are almost more important than the characters, which would make it even trickier. (Though he did do a totally bizarre run on a reboot of Dial H for Hero for DC comics)
	5:03pm ultradamno: Social Network was Fincher, but I agree, pretty bad.
	5:04pm ultradamno: @Fox He did co-write it. His version of Insomnia was the cracking point, I think, for me.
	5:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Or - how about: Audiophiles use their Music to listen to their Stereos, where most of us use our Stereos to listen to Music. Likewise, the CGI Blockbuster heads use supposed Writing / Ideas for no more than to show their dumb FX... They mistake Action ~ Adventure for SciFi. Partly that's the Future Shock of having more Tech inner palms than we can Grok already - & partly it's latestage Crapitalism running its propagandas o endless loop as Orwell & Huxley made explicit they would...
	5:04pm dale: hey now. some good noise and racket today (as always).
	5:06pm Fox: Rev: True. But then every so often, amazing scifi movies like Moon are made!
	5:07pm ultradamno: Well, Insomnia was right after Memento...so I still sat through the magicians movie, the batman movie and the top movie before the McConoughay in the wormhole movie...
	5:07pm Fox: ultradamno- Well then, maybe he's best at writing / directing, and not just adapting? Nolan films feel cold to me.
	5:07pm Zinn The Mood: Cool. This is totally Lizzy-like hard rock. Who is this Walter Smetak?
	5:08pm ultradamno: Well, he wrote Inception too, which is a master class in overplotting
	5:10pm chaos_in_la_la: remember when you destroyed a cello? that was about 4 years ago.
	5:10pm ultradamno: Charlie Kaufman probably looked at Inception after making Synecdoche and thought "dude, pare it down"
	5:11pm chaos_in_la_la: cello from ohio https://columbus.craigslist.org/msg/d/columbus-cello/7397849233.html
	5:14pm Barney Grubbs: wow, Smetak seems like an interesting dude: www.musicworks.ca...
	5:15pm Handy Haversack: I didn't know that, Barney Grubbs! I think I have all the prose and also subscribe to Salvage. But yeah, the Bas-Lag books would need an epic scale that would guarantee the mode of production would miss the point entirely.
	5:18pm dale: this is cool doom and gloom right here.
	5:18pm ultradamno: He kinds of gets relegated to an afterthought to Harry Partch but good stuff.
	5:19pm Creamo Coyl: I would never destroy a cello!* *except with a hammer, of course
	5:29pm dale: i pronounced it 'in her rear.' my wife grudgingly chortled.
	5:29pm Listener Robert: I figured you were trying to say "en arriere", meaning "before" or "earlier", or, in context, "ago".
	5:29pm ShelbyG: hey CC & fellow blasters
	5:30pm Morgan: the ravages of daylight savings time
	5:31pm Listener Robert: I see by the playlist that is indeed what you were saying. So congratulations, you pronounced it well enough for someone who knows the language to figure it out, which is all you can ask. As for people who don't know the language, it doesn't matter at all to them, right?
	5:31pm Morgan: depriving ourselves of serotonin increases our productivity or something
	5:35pm Handy Haversack: What's up, ShelbyG?
	5:37pm tim from washington: Yo Shelby!
	5:37pm ShelbyG: Hey Handy, I just got home from work a bit ago. Dark, some snow showers here & there. I really dislike this time of year. I am a big Mieville fan, btw.
	5:37pm ShelbyG: yo tim!
	5:39pm ultradamno: I just made a poll of Australian interest twitter.com...
	5:41pm Will the Sound Guy: hi Shelby!
	5:42pm Saltonstall: Creamy- can you follow this track up with 3 songs by Hail Mary on Vermiform Records?
	5:42pm ShelbyG: Hi Will!
	5:43pm tim from washington: I've always wanted to hear this record!
	5:45pm dale: this is great...
	5:45pm The Butterman: This sounds like Gus Bodenheim.
	5:46pm ShelbyG: I love this. So weird & interesting! Reading the bio...I'd never heard of this group before! Thx, Creamo!!
	5:47pm ultradamno: I don't think they allow Gus into most churches
	5:48pm Creamo Coyl: Armand Schaubroeck's King Of Comedy
	5:48pm Handy Haversack: Gonna say my thanks now, Creamo. Many monsters to feed in this dungeon, and I best get started on it. Thanks for a great show! See all Blastererersesess at the Operas of Christopher Nolan festival!
	5:48pm ShelbyG: I keep waiting for The Byrds "so you wanna be a rock n roll star" to kick in
	5:48pm Morgan: yeah they want to see you at mass, baby
	5:49pm ShelbyG: bye Handy!
	5:49pm The Butterman: True, Ultradamno.
	5:49pm tim from washington: See you, Handy!
	5:53pm ShelbyG: Thank you, Creamo, for a great show & really stoked to find out more about A.S.S. :)
	5:54pm ShelbyG: THAT, Creamo, DO THAT!
	5:55pm Morgan: thank you Creamo
	5:56pm ami ad: Thank you, DJ. Crew.
	5:57pm Morgan: yeah a lot of those eggheads are insufferable
	6:00pm Will the Sound Guy: thank you Creamo!!!!!!!!! have a great day allllllllll!!!!!!!!!!

Spin Age Blasters with Creamo Coyl: Playlist from November 16, 2021

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