WFMU: destination: OUT with Jeff Golick: Playlist from October 3, 2021

Listener comments!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: hello!
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Jeff and all other listeners!
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all, and happy 10th, D:O!!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @hyde! Good morning, @Andrew in Toronto!
	9:05am listener james from westwood: Oh, duh, that 10th is on the 24th. I shoulda stood in bed!
	🥁 9:05am WR: Hearing sounds in that Sun Ra that I hadn't noticed before. Yes, I'm hungry.
	9:06am TDK60: Good morning, Jeff! Feeling refreshed after visiting some of the Lower East Side community gardens yesterday.
	9:08am Jeff Golick: @listener james! Thanks -- still appreciate the sentiment! Welcome. @WR! Hearing things, as usual. @TDK60: sounds lovely! I had a rare visit with a former colleague on Long Island yesterday, which was also rejuvenating, in its way (minus the traffic).
	9:16am Jeff Golick: A preemptive and sincere THANK YOU for anyone who has pledged, or will pledge, or is thinking of pledging. DJs cannot see who has pledged during this month, so the thanks are BIG and cumulative. Big thanks!
	🥁 9:19am WR: but you can see the cutesy badge like hyde has and I don't. the peer pressure could be crushing...
	9:21am Listener Gregory: Morning all enjoying Ben Goldberg, whom I really like. I have visiting family, so will not really be here today. Pray for me!
	9:22am Jeff Golick: Thoughts and prayers, @Listener Gregory! Thanks for checking in.
	9:25am TDK60: Listener Gregory, don't discuss sports and food; talk about politics and religion, you'll be fine.
	9:25am Jeff Golick: Good advice, @TDK60. Definitely avoid the weather.
	9:32am Listener Gregory: If I bring up how ripe a banana should be before eating, my life is in forfeit.
	9:36am Jeff Golick: Reminds me: we're out of bananas.
	🥁 9:38am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...listening while slowly coming out of Sunday torpor ...have to check in to acknowledge this Workman !
	9:39am TDK60: Touchy subject, Listener Gregory. I often approach the corner fruit stand, and detect unripe bananas, and tell the fellow "Maybe Wednesday.."
	9:40am Jeff Golick: And I acknowledge you, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 -- g'morning!
	🥁 9:41am Listener Gregory: @TDK, yes, and when you come back on Wednesday, you find the person has sold those bananas and has replaced them with equally unripe bananas!
	9:42am TDK60: L.G. Yep, it gets complex..
	9:43am Jeff Golick: I am an eater of all manner of bananas, and can range from unripe to overripe, but prefer just the slight hint of brown spots starting to appear...
	9:43am TDK60: Good morning RevRab63. Whisk that torpor out the window.
	9:44am Jeff Golick: By the way, speaking of bananas, there is a very entertaining book about "America's banana king," who basically made his fortune selling fruit that others thought too ripe. It's called, somewhat arbitrarily, The Fish that Ate the Whale.
	9:45am Jeff Golick: (The whale in this case is the United Fruit Co.)
	9:45am TDK60: Then, there was the time I had a big bunch and my cash out to pay when the fruit vendor said "You know this is plantain, right?" Oh.
	🥁 9:48am hyde: i read a great blog thing from Nicola Twilley that described banana ditribution into NYC. It was fascinating. Bananas get graded, because of things like bodegas wanting bananas that are riper on the scale. She also described the refrigerated units where they hold the bananas as "a string of frozen archipelagos" ringing the city.
	9:50am TDK60: Jeff, oh United Fruit. Weren't they one of those benevolent orgs that helped Central America?
	9:53am Jeff Golick: Sounds cool, @hyde. The banana king did something similar about a hundred years ago, selling bananas off of a train that took them from New Orleans though the south, iirc. United Fruit ended up with their own army & navy and gave us the term "banana republic." Basically an un-official arm of the US Government. Via a protection racket.
	9:55am TDK60: See? I said food is touchy..
	🥁 10:02am Listener Gregory: @TDK60, please don't touch the food!!
	10:05am Franco Twinkie: But I want to touch the food!
	10:06am Jeff Golick: @Franco Twinkie! Given your handle, this seems appropriate.
	10:07am Franco Twinkie: I don't know how else to get it in my craw, Jeff.
	🥁 10:09am hyde: does anyone ever ask the rabbits how they feel about all these people falling down their holes
	10:11am Jeff Golick: They're probably peeved, esp when we land on their record collections.
	10:16am TDK60: Morning Franco. Hyde- Rabbit holes is a safer subject than food or sports, I hope.
	🥁 10:16am chresti: Morning Jeff and d:OUTters! Making coffee...
	10:16am Doug Schulkind: Hello, you ever chic but never chichi crowd!
	10:18am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @chresti! Greetings, @Doug! (Do I sense NYT spelling bee on the brain...?)
	10:19am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there TDK60.
	10:20am TDK60: Hi back Andrew, also Doug, Chresti.
	10:21am Doug Schulkind: I can quit anytime, really. But I don’t want to quit.
	10:24am Listener Robert: I use bananas at various stages of ripeness. Less than ripe, I cook with meat. Regular ripe, I use regular. Over-ripe, I use for banana milk or baking. Once I buy a bunch, they'll be at various stages at home when I'm ready for one, so it helps to be flexible this way.
	10:27am Listener Robert: Still, it was easier those almost 3 years Bob lived with me and I did the cooking. He drank a lot of milk, and he liked when I made banana milk; I usually don't even have milk around now that I'm alone.
	10:29am TDK60: I don't really cook plantains. But there's a Cuban place here where I get a heaping plate of sweet plantain, yellow rice, black beans.
	10:30am Franco Twinkie: I like bananas, but wouldn't say I love them. However, they are an integral part of my diet as of late because of their potassium level. I get leg cramps in bed and bananas are a good, if not perfect source of potassium.
	🥁 10:30am chresti: Hi TDK60\\//
	10:32am rw: Morning! Are we talking bananas? I'm about to have one now.
	10:32am Jeff Golick: Maduros are the bomb, @TDK60. Fondly recalling a Cuban Chinese place that did them just right, back when I lived in Chelsea.
	🥁 10:32am chresti: I find banana peels regularly at the tennis courts, usually next to a bench.
	10:32am TDK60: \\// chresti.
	10:35am Jeff Golick: Morning, @rw! @Franco, I similarly use bananas as more of an upkeep thing. Like 'em fine, though. They were my grandmother's staple; she had a banana a day, and lived into her 90s, so I'm going with that.
	10:37am TDK60: Don't smoke those peels, chresti.
	10:38am Jeff Golick: Kinda lame they leave 'em like that, @chresti.
	🥁 10:38am chresti: *I usually throw peels in the bushes, they're good dirt food.
	10:38am Franco Twinkie: Jeff, the other day on another show, I offered up Cuban-Chinese as a suitable replacement for the underwhelming Mexican food in NYC. And yes, grandma food for a balanced diet.
	🥁 10:40am chresti: But don't eat grandma!
	🥁 10:40am hyde: Boston also has underwhelming Mexican food, but we don't even have any Cuban-Chinese joints for backup
	10:42am Franco Twinkie: Hyde, isn't there an ethnic community in Boston that has a food that nourishes the soul as well as the body?
	10:42am rw: I've heard there's market that packages a week's worth of bananas at various stages of ripeness so they ripen as you go. I'm also having a pomegranate picked this morning from the tree that hangs over into the alley. I hear it's loaded with anti-oxidants, but mostly it's delicious on this granola.
	10:43am Jeff Golick: Pomegranate tree!
	10:44am rw: Franco, I don't know, man. At the right moment, frozen pizza nourishes my soul just fine.
	10:44am Franco Twinkie: RW! The trees at my moms house are loaded. It's close enough to you that they're on the the same time table of ripeness
	🥁 10:44am hyde: @Franco we've actually got a pretty solid ramen scene
	10:45am Franco Twinkie: Raman is essential to keep your life in check.
	10:46am TDK60: This Albert Daily sounds Pharoah Sanders inspired. Yeah?
	10:47am rw: And speaking of nurturing the soul... thanks Jeff G. for getting up every Sunday to take us all Out.
	10:48am Stork: Hey, way late to the wing-ding. Hoy-yo, JeffG and all aboard! Great assortment of stuff I should know more about on this playlist!
	10:49am Jeff Golick: @TKD60, yeah I hear that. @rw: aw warms my heart. I wouldn't miss this for the world. @Stork, if you learn more about it, please let me know, as I am faking it.
	10:50am TDK60: Franco, there are some good Mex. places here and there, a few in Brooklyn. Mostly quick burrito places. Then there are street vendors, both with trailers and some just haul around stroller baskets with homemade stuff. I recall in the '60s there was only Mex. restaurant! In the Village.
	10:52am rw: TDK60, and Franco, you might remember, in the '60s Mexican food was still so exotic to the general public that Taco Bell had a pronunciation guide on the menu.
	🥁 10:53am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): Hey there, Jeff and folx!
	10:53am Franco Twinkie: Good to know TDK. When I was in NYC often, The Sombrero on Orchard Street in the LES was the place that most resembled West Coast sylee, and frankly it was lacking. Soho? Forget it!
	🥁 10:54am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): Franco: I gotta say that I had some fantastic Indian food in Boston
	10:55am Jeff Golick: Yo, @Mx. Baba Bee!
	10:56am Franco Twinkie: RW, true. But I was more of a working class Eastsider, so local restaurants were serving the community.
	10:56am Jeff Golick: Oh, man, @Franco, The Hat. As I (dimly) recall, that place was mostly notable for their very large drinks which you could get in to-go cups.
	🥁 10:57am chresti: MX BABA BEEKINS! I didn't have real Mexican food (except at friends' houses) until I moved to LA in 76.
	10:58am Marco Esquandolas: Hi Jeff and Everyone. What is this Cuban-Chinese cuisine you speak of? I’ve never heard of that fusion but want some now!
	10:58am rw: The Hat, as in the pastrami sandwich / french dip place?
	🥁 10:58am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): CHRESTIKINS! Just wanna brag that my little PNW island up here has the real deal in Mexican tacos. We got it good here.
	10:58am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Marco Esquandolas!
	10:59am Franco Twinkie: Haha! Me and my homie Kid Congo were discussing The Hat and that's EXACTLY what he said!
	🥁 10:59am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): I had Chinese-Mexican in a little town in Eastern Kansas. It was perfect.
	10:59am TDK60: Marco, in Nueva York there are several (many?) Latin@/Chinese joints. One on the Upper West Side closed sadly. (pandemic economics?)
	10:59am Stork: Fitz Gore: Another new one for me, and this is oh so sweet!
	🥁 10:59am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): I went to the Chinatown in Havana back in the 90's but there wasn't a place to eat at the time. Cool neighborhood, though.
	11:00am Marco Esquandolas: That’s so cool. I’ve got to find some.
	🥁 11:00am Doug Schulkind: This pretty.
	11:02am rw: Damn. All this food talk is too compelling. I need to get some work done. Hello Baba; chresti; Marco; Doug!
	11:04am Marco Esquandolas: Hi rw
	11:06am Franco Twinkie: RW, en la casa is mostly how we ate growing up. Restaurants occasionally. But regarding the scarcity of passible Mexican food - in 1967 I ate 'Mexican food' in San Francisco with my family that was so unacceptable we all just started laughing.
	11:07am TDK60: Can even those who don't believe in Hell donate, Jeff?
	11:08am WM: I promise to make a contribution before the end of the month.
	11:08am Stork: That's a yup on the Monk b-day thing next Sunday! Jeff and I will tag-team it some.
	🥁 11:10am doctorjazz: Hi Jeff and D.O. listeners!
	11:10am Marco Esquandolas: I think I’ve only had Americanized Mexican food, which I do love. I have been to a couple real Mexican restaurants, but thy didn’t have any vegetarian options. My carnivorous friends loved it though
	11:11am Franco Twinkie: Marco, of what extraction are you?
	11:13am Marco Esquandolas: I’m white as turkey meat. When I get some sun, I turn to a ham meat complexion
	11:15am Jeff Golick: @TDK60: yes. @WM: no problem -- whatever, whenever...or never. @doctorjazz, stream daddy-o!
	11:15am rw: Ha! Franco, I'll bet. I'm no aficionado, just a white dude from the SoCal suburbs, but I DID live in the midwest for a couple years. One of my favorite moments: when asking about the nachos, the waiter said, "The chef, he puts the cheeze-whiz on it"
	🥁 11:18am doctorjazz: Like this Nubian Lady!
	11:19am rw: Huh, maybe that story doesn't translate so well. Mostly we liked the juxtaposition of the words "chef" and "cheeze-whiz".
	11:20am Franco Twinkie: Okay Marco, your name threw me. Mexican Restaurants can be problematic for vegetarians. Our local Mexican bakery which also does a hot food steam table thingy is trying valiantly to address this oversight. Chresti is a vegetarian and we rely on the place for our breakfast burritos.
	11:20am Marco Esquandolas: Cheez whiz hahaha
	11:21am rw: Hey doc!
	11:22am Stork: This Roy Meriwether is a-rockin!!
	11:22am Jeff Golick: In another timeline, @doc, this album is the "The In-Crowd" of the 1970s.
	🥁 11:26am Doug Schulkind: The audience vibe on this track is insanely similar to a live Yusef Lateef recording on Ten Years Hence. By any chance was this recorded live at the Keystone Corner in San Francisco?
	11:26am Franco Twinkie: RW, I remember a Summer morning in Laramie Wyoming where a couple of hippie kids from California went into a 'Mexican Restaurant' full of cowboys for breakfast. Atmosphere - think Easy Rider. Food - alien spore.
	11:26am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for playing this!
	🥁 11:26am doctorjazz: Hi rw!
	🥁 11:26am chresti: Thanks for some drums, Jeff G!
	🥁 11:27am Doug Schulkind: Nope. I just looked it up. The Magic Carpet in Dayton, Ohio.
	11:27am Jeff Golick: Live at the Magic Carpet, @Doug, Dayton, Ohio. Maybe the same crowd just moved around a lot.
	11:28am Marco Esquandolas: That’s good to know, Franco. Hopefully it’ll become more of a thing. This is a jam!
	11:28am Jeff Golick: PHILLIP PAUL on the drums!
	11:29am Jeff Golick: Guess what instrument LESTER BASS is playing.
	🥁 11:29am chresti: Chef Cheese Whiz
	11:29am Marco Esquandolas: When this song started, I thought it was a jazz cover of low spark of high heeled boys
	11:29am TDK60: Franco, hehee, I recall hitchhiking days and eating in trucker diners. I'd play Hot Rod Lincoln by Commander Cody on the table jukebox. Ha, how many knew they were hippies? I guffawed under my breath.
	11:29am rw: FT, I've been to Laramie. I understand completely.
	11:31am Ike: Morning!
	11:32am Jeff Golick: @I to the K to the E!
	🥁 11:36am WR: Prof. Benson, thank you for that alternative version of Compared to What.
	11:40am Ike: We have some whole Mexican neighborhoods in NYC now, including mine, Sunset Park, Bklyn, plus Corona, Queens, and others. But they are mainly Pueblan and a little Oaxacan, so the food tastes different than Cali Mex, though don’t ask me to describe how, because I can’t.
	11:41am Jeff Golick: Crazy separation on this Lightmen track. Guitar on one side, EVERYTHING else on the other.
	🥁 11:44am chresti: We have the whole spectrum of Mexican food here, Ike.
	11:45am Franco Twinkie: Ike, Oaxacan is a thing unto itself. Pueblan not so much...just don't say that to someone from Puebla if you want to walk away with your nuts attached!
	🥁 11:46am hyde: one of the few really good Mexican joints in this area was run by folks from Sonora. When the family decided to close and move back there, i was sooo sad. Farewell, tacos arabes
	🥁 11:47am chresti: *But the Baja style predominates, true.
	11:50am Franco Twinkie: Sonoran also predominates in Sothern California. My only gripe with Sonoran is the heavy hand with the salt shaker.
	11:52am Franco Twinkie: WR! How you feeling today?
	11:52am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:53am doctorjazz: Thanks Jeff! WR, how are you feeling?
	11:54am Jeff Golick: My total pleasure, @Andrew and @doctorjazz. Glad you were here for it.
	11:56am TDK60: Thanks Jeff, dug the tunes! Sorry I brought up food.
	🥁 11:56am doctorjazz: Sometimes I think I should digitize my whole collection, Jeff. But then t think of the time to digitize thousands of LPs, and the cost of a good analog to digital converter, and I realize it ain't happening.
	11:56am Franco Twinkie: I've been so busy rattling on about food, I didn't even notice when the Mystic Beauty album cover appeared. That to me is asperational!
	🥁 11:57am doctorjazz: This McCraven is cool!
	11:57am Franco Twinkie: Thank you Jeff. You cast a mood for sure!
	11:58am Stork: Great new discoveries at the D-O today. Thanks, Jeff!!
	🥁 11:58am hyde: thanks!
	🥁 11:58am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	11:58am Marco Esquandolas: Thanks Jeff!!!!!
	🥁 11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY Always DJ JG
	12:01pm rw: Thanks Jeff G!!!!
	🥁 12:01pm WR: Thank you Jeff!
	12:02pm Jeff Golick: Y'all are the best, grateful for @TDK60, @Franco Twinkie, @Stork, @hyde, @chresti, @Marco, @RRN63, @rw, @Mx. Baba Bee, @WR, and errybody.
	🥁 12:01pm Listener Gregory: Comments from the future: That Albert Dailey was really something. Between the cover and name, how many bad marketing choices could The Gow-Dow Experience make?? People should have stolen Leroy Vinegar's pants more often if it stimulated him to make that kind of music. Very interesting show, Jeff. It stands the test of time (at least, 24 hours)

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October 3, 2021: In which we went bananas.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970	0:02:42 (Pop-up)
Ben Goldberg	Bake a Cake 2 "Bake a Cake 2" by "Ben Goldberg"	Thought Out, Vol. 1: Bake a Cake	BAG Production	2021	0:05:27 (Pop-up)
The Reggie Workman Ensemble	Chant	Synthesis	Leo Records	1986	0:29:31 (Pop-up)
Borderlands Trio	An Invitation to Disappear	Wandersphere	Intakt	2021	0:38:03 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"				0:57:24 (Pop-up)
Ralph Thomas	Spellbound "Spellbound" by "Ralph Thomas"	Eastern Standard Time	Zebra Jazz	1980	1:04:02 (Pop-up)
Bobby Hamilton Quintet	Dream Queen	Dream Queen	Alafia	1972	1:11:43 (Pop-up)
Longineu Parsons	Spaced "Spaced" by "Longineu Parsons"	Longineu Parsons	Longineu Music Publishing Inc.	1980	1:22:59 (Pop-up)
Cullen Knight	Once You Fall in Love	Looking Up	Tree Top Records	1978	1:29:13 (Pop-up)
Albert Dailey	Dues We Have to Pay	Renaissance	Catalyst Records	1977	1:36:31 (Pop-up)
Hilton Fenton	Blues for a Weary Man	A Man for All Reasons	Hilton's Concept, Inc.	1980	1:45:32 (Pop-up)
Doug Hammond & David Durrah	Sea of Nurnen	Reflections in the Sea of Nurnen	Tribe	1975	1:54:35 (Pop-up)
Fitz Gore & The Talismen	My Foolish Heart	Soundnitia	GorBra Records	1975	1:55:54 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay				2:05:00 (Pop-up)
Roy Meriwether Trio	Nubian Lady "Nubian Lady" by "Roy Meriwether Trio"	Nubian Lady	Stinger Productions	1973	2:12:55 (Pop-up)
The "Gow-Dow" Experience	Compared to What (alternate take)	73-74-75	The Gow-Dow Experience Productions	1973	2:32:14 (Pop-up)
Leroy Vinnegar	Damn! Somebody Stole My Pants	Glass of Water	Legend Record Co.	1973	2:35:14 (Pop-up)
Bubbha Thomas & The Lightmen	Luke 23:32-49	Free As You Wanna Be	Judnell Records	1970	2:39:05 (Pop-up)
Reggie Andrews and the Fellowship	Ah Na Na	Mystic Beauty	H.M.E.	1969	2:42:13 (Pop-up)
The People's People	Monica "Monica" by "The People's People"	The People's People Present the Spirit of David	The Voice Of The People Record Co.	1976	2:45:21 (Pop-up)
Stephen McCraven	Ahiri-Lalita "Ahiri-Lalita" by "Stephen McCraven"	Wooley the Newt	Sweet Earth Records	1979	2:52:35 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975	2:57:45 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 9:00am hyde: hello!
	9:00am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Jeff and all other listeners!
	9:02am listener james from westwood: Morning, Jeff and all, and happy 10th, D:O!!
	9:03am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @hyde! Good morning, @Andrew in Toronto!
	9:05am listener james from westwood: Oh, duh, that 10th is on the 24th. I shoulda stood in bed!
	🥁 9:05am WR: Hearing sounds in that Sun Ra that I hadn't noticed before. Yes, I'm hungry.
	9:06am TDK60: Good morning, Jeff! Feeling refreshed after visiting some of the Lower East Side community gardens yesterday.
	9:08am Jeff Golick: @listener james! Thanks -- still appreciate the sentiment! Welcome. @WR! Hearing things, as usual. @TDK60: sounds lovely! I had a rare visit with a former colleague on Long Island yesterday, which was also rejuvenating, in its way (minus the traffic).
	9:16am Jeff Golick: A preemptive and sincere THANK YOU for anyone who has pledged, or will pledge, or is thinking of pledging. DJs cannot see who has pledged during this month, so the thanks are BIG and cumulative. Big thanks!
	🥁 9:19am WR: but you can see the cutesy badge like hyde has and I don't. the peer pressure could be crushing...
	9:21am Listener Gregory: Morning all enjoying Ben Goldberg, whom I really like. I have visiting family, so will not really be here today. Pray for me!
	9:22am Jeff Golick: Thoughts and prayers, @Listener Gregory! Thanks for checking in.
	9:25am TDK60: Listener Gregory, don't discuss sports and food; talk about politics and religion, you'll be fine.
	9:25am Jeff Golick: Good advice, @TDK60. Definitely avoid the weather.
	9:32am Listener Gregory: If I bring up how ripe a banana should be before eating, my life is in forfeit.
	9:36am Jeff Golick: Reminds me: we're out of bananas.
	🥁 9:38am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...listening while slowly coming out of Sunday torpor ...have to check in to acknowledge this Workman !
	9:39am TDK60: Touchy subject, Listener Gregory. I often approach the corner fruit stand, and detect unripe bananas, and tell the fellow "Maybe Wednesday.."
	9:40am Jeff Golick: And I acknowledge you, @Revolution Rabbit Nov63 -- g'morning!
	🥁 9:41am Listener Gregory: @TDK, yes, and when you come back on Wednesday, you find the person has sold those bananas and has replaced them with equally unripe bananas!
	9:42am TDK60: L.G. Yep, it gets complex..
	9:43am Jeff Golick: I am an eater of all manner of bananas, and can range from unripe to overripe, but prefer just the slight hint of brown spots starting to appear...
	9:43am TDK60: Good morning RevRab63. Whisk that torpor out the window.
	9:44am Jeff Golick: By the way, speaking of bananas, there is a very entertaining book about "America's banana king," who basically made his fortune selling fruit that others thought too ripe. It's called, somewhat arbitrarily, The Fish that Ate the Whale.
	9:45am Jeff Golick: (The whale in this case is the United Fruit Co.)
	9:45am TDK60: Then, there was the time I had a big bunch and my cash out to pay when the fruit vendor said "You know this is plantain, right?" Oh.
	🥁 9:48am hyde: i read a great blog thing from Nicola Twilley that described banana ditribution into NYC. It was fascinating. Bananas get graded, because of things like bodegas wanting bananas that are riper on the scale. She also described the refrigerated units where they hold the bananas as "a string of frozen archipelagos" ringing the city.
	9:50am TDK60: Jeff, oh United Fruit. Weren't they one of those benevolent orgs that helped Central America?
	9:53am Jeff Golick: Sounds cool, @hyde. The banana king did something similar about a hundred years ago, selling bananas off of a train that took them from New Orleans though the south, iirc. United Fruit ended up with their own army & navy and gave us the term "banana republic." Basically an un-official arm of the US Government. Via a protection racket.
	9:55am TDK60: See? I said food is touchy..
	🥁 10:02am Listener Gregory: @TDK60, please don't touch the food!!
	10:05am Franco Twinkie: But I want to touch the food!
	10:06am Jeff Golick: @Franco Twinkie! Given your handle, this seems appropriate.
	10:07am Franco Twinkie: I don't know how else to get it in my craw, Jeff.
	🥁 10:09am hyde: does anyone ever ask the rabbits how they feel about all these people falling down their holes
	10:11am Jeff Golick: They're probably peeved, esp when we land on their record collections.
	10:16am TDK60: Morning Franco. Hyde- Rabbit holes is a safer subject than food or sports, I hope.
	🥁 10:16am chresti: Morning Jeff and d:OUTters! Making coffee...
	10:16am Doug Schulkind: Hello, you ever chic but never chichi crowd!
	10:18am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @chresti! Greetings, @Doug! (Do I sense NYT spelling bee on the brain...?)
	10:19am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there TDK60.
	10:20am TDK60: Hi back Andrew, also Doug, Chresti.
	10:21am Doug Schulkind: I can quit anytime, really. But I don’t want to quit.
	10:24am Listener Robert: I use bananas at various stages of ripeness. Less than ripe, I cook with meat. Regular ripe, I use regular. Over-ripe, I use for banana milk or baking. Once I buy a bunch, they'll be at various stages at home when I'm ready for one, so it helps to be flexible this way.
	10:27am Listener Robert: Still, it was easier those almost 3 years Bob lived with me and I did the cooking. He drank a lot of milk, and he liked when I made banana milk; I usually don't even have milk around now that I'm alone.
	10:29am TDK60: I don't really cook plantains. But there's a Cuban place here where I get a heaping plate of sweet plantain, yellow rice, black beans.
	10:30am Franco Twinkie: I like bananas, but wouldn't say I love them. However, they are an integral part of my diet as of late because of their potassium level. I get leg cramps in bed and bananas are a good, if not perfect source of potassium.
	🥁 10:30am chresti: Hi TDK60\\//
	10:32am rw: Morning! Are we talking bananas? I'm about to have one now.
	10:32am Jeff Golick: Maduros are the bomb, @TDK60. Fondly recalling a Cuban Chinese place that did them just right, back when I lived in Chelsea.
	🥁 10:32am chresti: I find banana peels regularly at the tennis courts, usually next to a bench.
	10:32am TDK60: \\// chresti.
	10:35am Jeff Golick: Morning, @rw! @Franco, I similarly use bananas as more of an upkeep thing. Like 'em fine, though. They were my grandmother's staple; she had a banana a day, and lived into her 90s, so I'm going with that.
	10:37am TDK60: Don't smoke those peels, chresti.
	10:38am Jeff Golick: Kinda lame they leave 'em like that, @chresti.
	🥁 10:38am chresti: *I usually throw peels in the bushes, they're good dirt food.
	10:38am Franco Twinkie: Jeff, the other day on another show, I offered up Cuban-Chinese as a suitable replacement for the underwhelming Mexican food in NYC. And yes, grandma food for a balanced diet.
	🥁 10:40am chresti: But don't eat grandma!
	🥁 10:40am hyde: Boston also has underwhelming Mexican food, but we don't even have any Cuban-Chinese joints for backup
	10:42am Franco Twinkie: Hyde, isn't there an ethnic community in Boston that has a food that nourishes the soul as well as the body?
	10:42am rw: I've heard there's market that packages a week's worth of bananas at various stages of ripeness so they ripen as you go. I'm also having a pomegranate picked this morning from the tree that hangs over into the alley. I hear it's loaded with anti-oxidants, but mostly it's delicious on this granola.
	10:43am Jeff Golick: Pomegranate tree!
	10:44am rw: Franco, I don't know, man. At the right moment, frozen pizza nourishes my soul just fine.
	10:44am Franco Twinkie: RW! The trees at my moms house are loaded. It's close enough to you that they're on the the same time table of ripeness
	🥁 10:44am hyde: @Franco we've actually got a pretty solid ramen scene
	10:45am Franco Twinkie: Raman is essential to keep your life in check.
	10:46am TDK60: This Albert Daily sounds Pharoah Sanders inspired. Yeah?
	10:47am rw: And speaking of nurturing the soul... thanks Jeff G. for getting up every Sunday to take us all Out.
	10:48am Stork: Hey, way late to the wing-ding. Hoy-yo, JeffG and all aboard! Great assortment of stuff I should know more about on this playlist!
	10:49am Jeff Golick: @TKD60, yeah I hear that. @rw: aw warms my heart. I wouldn't miss this for the world. @Stork, if you learn more about it, please let me know, as I am faking it.
	10:50am TDK60: Franco, there are some good Mex. places here and there, a few in Brooklyn. Mostly quick burrito places. Then there are street vendors, both with trailers and some just haul around stroller baskets with homemade stuff. I recall in the '60s there was only Mex. restaurant! In the Village.
	10:52am rw: TDK60, and Franco, you might remember, in the '60s Mexican food was still so exotic to the general public that Taco Bell had a pronunciation guide on the menu.
	🥁 10:53am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): Hey there, Jeff and folx!
	10:53am Franco Twinkie: Good to know TDK. When I was in NYC often, The Sombrero on Orchard Street in the LES was the place that most resembled West Coast sylee, and frankly it was lacking. Soho? Forget it!
	🥁 10:54am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): Franco: I gotta say that I had some fantastic Indian food in Boston
	10:55am Jeff Golick: Yo, @Mx. Baba Bee!
	10:56am Franco Twinkie: RW, true. But I was more of a working class Eastsider, so local restaurants were serving the community.
	10:56am Jeff Golick: Oh, man, @Franco, The Hat. As I (dimly) recall, that place was mostly notable for their very large drinks which you could get in to-go cups.
	🥁 10:57am chresti: MX BABA BEEKINS! I didn't have real Mexican food (except at friends' houses) until I moved to LA in 76.
	10:58am Marco Esquandolas: Hi Jeff and Everyone. What is this Cuban-Chinese cuisine you speak of? I’ve never heard of that fusion but want some now!
	10:58am rw: The Hat, as in the pastrami sandwich / french dip place?
	🥁 10:58am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): CHRESTIKINS! Just wanna brag that my little PNW island up here has the real deal in Mexican tacos. We got it good here.
	10:58am Jeff Golick: Greetings, @Marco Esquandolas!
	10:59am Franco Twinkie: Haha! Me and my homie Kid Congo were discussing The Hat and that's EXACTLY what he said!
	🥁 10:59am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): I had Chinese-Mexican in a little town in Eastern Kansas. It was perfect.
	10:59am TDK60: Marco, in Nueva York there are several (many?) Latin@/Chinese joints. One on the Upper West Side closed sadly. (pandemic economics?)
	10:59am Stork: Fitz Gore: Another new one for me, and this is oh so sweet!
	🥁 10:59am Mx. Baba Bee (e/they): I went to the Chinatown in Havana back in the 90's but there wasn't a place to eat at the time. Cool neighborhood, though.
	11:00am Marco Esquandolas: That’s so cool. I’ve got to find some.
	🥁 11:00am Doug Schulkind: This pretty.
	11:02am rw: Damn. All this food talk is too compelling. I need to get some work done. Hello Baba; chresti; Marco; Doug!
	11:04am Marco Esquandolas: Hi rw
	11:06am Franco Twinkie: RW, en la casa is mostly how we ate growing up. Restaurants occasionally. But regarding the scarcity of passible Mexican food - in 1967 I ate 'Mexican food' in San Francisco with my family that was so unacceptable we all just started laughing.
	11:07am TDK60: Can even those who don't believe in Hell donate, Jeff?
	11:08am WM: I promise to make a contribution before the end of the month.
	11:08am Stork: That's a yup on the Monk b-day thing next Sunday! Jeff and I will tag-team it some.
	🥁 11:10am doctorjazz: Hi Jeff and D.O. listeners!
	11:10am Marco Esquandolas: I think I’ve only had Americanized Mexican food, which I do love. I have been to a couple real Mexican restaurants, but thy didn’t have any vegetarian options. My carnivorous friends loved it though
	11:11am Franco Twinkie: Marco, of what extraction are you?
	11:13am Marco Esquandolas: I’m white as turkey meat. When I get some sun, I turn to a ham meat complexion
	11:15am Jeff Golick: @TDK60: yes. @WM: no problem -- whatever, whenever...or never. @doctorjazz, stream daddy-o!
	11:15am rw: Ha! Franco, I'll bet. I'm no aficionado, just a white dude from the SoCal suburbs, but I DID live in the midwest for a couple years. One of my favorite moments: when asking about the nachos, the waiter said, "The chef, he puts the cheeze-whiz on it"
	🥁 11:18am doctorjazz: Like this Nubian Lady!
	11:19am rw: Huh, maybe that story doesn't translate so well. Mostly we liked the juxtaposition of the words "chef" and "cheeze-whiz".
	11:20am Franco Twinkie: Okay Marco, your name threw me. Mexican Restaurants can be problematic for vegetarians. Our local Mexican bakery which also does a hot food steam table thingy is trying valiantly to address this oversight. Chresti is a vegetarian and we rely on the place for our breakfast burritos.
	11:20am Marco Esquandolas: Cheez whiz hahaha
	11:21am rw: Hey doc!
	11:22am Stork: This Roy Meriwether is a-rockin!!
	11:22am Jeff Golick: In another timeline, @doc, this album is the "The In-Crowd" of the 1970s.
	🥁 11:26am Doug Schulkind: The audience vibe on this track is insanely similar to a live Yusef Lateef recording on Ten Years Hence. By any chance was this recorded live at the Keystone Corner in San Francisco?
	11:26am Franco Twinkie: RW, I remember a Summer morning in Laramie Wyoming where a couple of hippie kids from California went into a 'Mexican Restaurant' full of cowboys for breakfast. Atmosphere - think Easy Rider. Food - alien spore.
	11:26am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks for playing this!
	🥁 11:26am doctorjazz: Hi rw!
	🥁 11:26am chresti: Thanks for some drums, Jeff G!
	🥁 11:27am Doug Schulkind: Nope. I just looked it up. The Magic Carpet in Dayton, Ohio.
	11:27am Jeff Golick: Live at the Magic Carpet, @Doug, Dayton, Ohio. Maybe the same crowd just moved around a lot.
	11:28am Marco Esquandolas: That’s good to know, Franco. Hopefully it’ll become more of a thing. This is a jam!
	11:28am Jeff Golick: PHILLIP PAUL on the drums!
	11:29am Jeff Golick: Guess what instrument LESTER BASS is playing.
	🥁 11:29am chresti: Chef Cheese Whiz
	11:29am Marco Esquandolas: When this song started, I thought it was a jazz cover of low spark of high heeled boys
	11:29am TDK60: Franco, hehee, I recall hitchhiking days and eating in trucker diners. I'd play Hot Rod Lincoln by Commander Cody on the table jukebox. Ha, how many knew they were hippies? I guffawed under my breath.
	11:29am rw: FT, I've been to Laramie. I understand completely.
	11:31am Ike: Morning!
	11:32am Jeff Golick: @I to the K to the E!
	🥁 11:36am WR: Prof. Benson, thank you for that alternative version of Compared to What.
	11:40am Ike: We have some whole Mexican neighborhoods in NYC now, including mine, Sunset Park, Bklyn, plus Corona, Queens, and others. But they are mainly Pueblan and a little Oaxacan, so the food tastes different than Cali Mex, though don’t ask me to describe how, because I can’t.
	11:41am Jeff Golick: Crazy separation on this Lightmen track. Guitar on one side, EVERYTHING else on the other.
	🥁 11:44am chresti: We have the whole spectrum of Mexican food here, Ike.
	11:45am Franco Twinkie: Ike, Oaxacan is a thing unto itself. Pueblan not so much...just don't say that to someone from Puebla if you want to walk away with your nuts attached!
	🥁 11:46am hyde: one of the few really good Mexican joints in this area was run by folks from Sonora. When the family decided to close and move back there, i was sooo sad. Farewell, tacos arabes
	🥁 11:47am chresti: *But the Baja style predominates, true.
	11:50am Franco Twinkie: Sonoran also predominates in Sothern California. My only gripe with Sonoran is the heavy hand with the salt shaker.
	11:52am Franco Twinkie: WR! How you feeling today?
	11:52am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks Jeff!
	🥁 11:53am doctorjazz: Thanks Jeff! WR, how are you feeling?
	11:54am Jeff Golick: My total pleasure, @Andrew and @doctorjazz. Glad you were here for it.
	11:56am TDK60: Thanks Jeff, dug the tunes! Sorry I brought up food.
	🥁 11:56am doctorjazz: Sometimes I think I should digitize my whole collection, Jeff. But then t think of the time to digitize thousands of LPs, and the cost of a good analog to digital converter, and I realize it ain't happening.
	11:56am Franco Twinkie: I've been so busy rattling on about food, I didn't even notice when the Mystic Beauty album cover appeared. That to me is asperational!
	🥁 11:57am doctorjazz: This McCraven is cool!
	11:57am Franco Twinkie: Thank you Jeff. You cast a mood for sure!
	11:58am Stork: Great new discoveries at the D-O today. Thanks, Jeff!!
	🥁 11:58am hyde: thanks!
	🥁 11:58am chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	11:58am Marco Esquandolas: Thanks Jeff!!!!!
	🥁 11:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: TY Always DJ JG
	12:01pm rw: Thanks Jeff G!!!!
	🥁 12:01pm WR: Thank you Jeff!
	12:02pm Jeff Golick: Y'all are the best, grateful for @TDK60, @Franco Twinkie, @Stork, @hyde, @chresti, @Marco, @RRN63, @rw, @Mx. Baba Bee, @WR, and errybody.
	🥁 12:01pm Listener Gregory: Comments from the future: That Albert Dailey was really something. Between the cover and name, how many bad marketing choices could The Gow-Dow Experience make?? People should have stolen Leroy Vinegar's pants more often if it stimulated him to make that kind of music. Very interesting show, Jeff. It stands the test of time (at least, 24 hours)

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