WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 30, 2021

Listener comments!
	🤖 6:01pm David (in London): Evening Technoids and all hail the Amanda-in-Chief.
	6:02pm YETI BOB: Hi Amanda! Hi David! Do you know that Irene played a Daona track today? I thought of you.
	6:02pm LastWhiteRhino: Halo !
	6:02pm alanSixº: 👋
	6:02pm Chris Crash: Hey Amanda!
	6:03pm Phillippe: Hey Amanda!
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Amanda and all!
	🤖 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Good evening, Amanda. Excited to hear about the tech scenario.
	6:04pm Phillippe: DiL how was the vaca?
	🤖 6:04pm Handy Haversack: Hi, Amanda and the Technarios! What a tonic. Hey, David!
	6:04pm P-90: Amandatonic!
	6:04pm David in London: Yeti Bob, hello mate. Did she? Oh bless her, that’s kind of her. I was on the road today, so sadly couldn’t listen. I’ll have to listen via the archive. And how are you sir?
	6:04pm headcleaner: I love how not-so-ironically dated that "ironically dated" billboard now seems
	6:04pm timinoak: Abbie From Mars!!!!! yay!!!!
	6:04pm sim: Good evening, radioland and all points on the internet!
	6:05pm ultradamno: Amanda! Onlyfantonics! Only Fans predictably walked this back, since what else do they have?
	6:05pm P-90: Aww, I was hoping to hear about Amanda’s Only Fans…
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Hope it was a good trip, David. Hey, ultradamno!
	🤖 6:05pm herb.nyc: Hola. This OnlyFans is different from escort services / prostitution of Back Pages. Yes?
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Hi Amanda & techies!
	6:05pm ultradamno: Well, if Bella Thorne and Renee Olstead are famous. Hiya Handy!
	6:06pm sim: Amanda uses OnlyAirConditioners.
	6:06pm melinda: hi everyone!
	6:06pm David in London: Phillippe, Handy, Ken, salutations all. Phillippe, it was a real balm for the mind and the spirit. Some days walking out of town, exhibitions, cinema, museums, tea and books in the garden. Bliss.
	🤖 6:06pm Handy Haversack: The tumblr decision was rough on the independent end of independent tabletop gaming, too.
	6:07pm David in London: Bas, ultradamno, Melinda. Ahoy.
	6:07pm Chris Crash: Oh my God I remember that yahoo billboard
	6:07pm P-90: Let’s hear it for those “legitimate, above-board sex workers”, they gotta eat too
	6:07pm ultradamno: Hey DiL!
	6:08pm sim: IMDB does shadow banning? Who knew.
	🤖 6:08pm Handy Haversack: Paywall on Daily Beast, it seems.
	6:08pm ultradamno: Maitland Ward, another former Disney girl (Boy Meets World)
	6:08pm listener james from westwood: And who owns IMDB? Amazon!
	6:08pm headcleaner: Well there was Craigslist's decision to ban first ads by sex workers - and then, ultimately, all "personal ads" (since the latter category tended to include many ads from the former category, due to the sketchy way CL runs), about 3 years ago
	6:08pm queems: ooooo i aggressively play pokemon go
	6:08pm P-90: Wait, haven’t I seen tons of adult performers listed in IMDB…?
	6:09pm Chris Crash: A chill went down my spine hearing the name "Simpsons Tapped Out" That was a thoroughly addictive two weeks
	🤖 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey, David. Hope you have a good view of The Shard tonight.
	6:09pm Kathleen from JC: Love hearing you on Techtonic, Amanda!
	6:10pm ultradamno: Wait, BMW was ABC, Girl Meets World was Disney. Child actor at any rate.
	6:10pm queems: we should be pokemon go friends, i give gifts every day rotfl i don’t think that is the point of this show today but
	6:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never cared for Games of any sort whatsoever. Your 'Simpson's Time' podcast, however, lightened several commutes to werk & the like.
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: Paul Bruno! [Ghost Dog music rises in background]
	6:11pm YETI BOB: D(iL): I'm fine, got out of town for the weekend, visited some friends in Michigan. It's not quite as hot as it's been, I'm enjoying the end-of-summer vibe.
	6:11pm Kathleen from JC: Our girl cat Hela is a gamer. She stole my iPad and incessantly plays Catzilla.
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Our recently deceased cat, Lulu, was a tabletop RPG fan -- she especially liked rolling the dice. Onto the floor. And curling up to pose on the books.
	6:13pm ultradamno: I play Mahjong on occasion...3D even sometimes, so that's pretty gamer, right?
	6:14pm Phillippe: That sounds great, David!
	6:14pm yippie: i used to play the sims mobile game
	6:15pm Chris Crash: Curious if Amanda or Paulie B remembers what their Springfields look like
	6:15pm sim: Spaceteam is a great mobile phone game for friends at a table. Frantic, cooperative, loud.
	6:16pm Amanda: More gamer cats! That will be the next fill-in. WELCOME, everyone!
	🤖 6:17pm Ken From Hyde Park: King Toot's music store. With the Egyptian motif.
	6:18pm queems: the only game i ever played was tetris
	6:18pm Amanda: I took a long time to build my Monorail because it was just so ugly! Didn't want to mess up my Springfield.
	6:18pm Kat in Chicago: queems! Amanda! other trainers! Noiselifer here. 4922 2010 9045, feel free to add me.
	6:18pm sim: Robot Unicorn Attack [adult swim]... With the Erasure soundtrack.
	6:19pm Kat in Chicago: Anyone else addicted to Threes?
	🤖 6:19pm Handy Haversack: I had a freelance gig for a while writing copy for Lord of the Rings Online MMORPG. They gave me an account and the software. I could never get out of the training area and often died in the campfire. So ... yeah, I stick with dice and pencils. Though I'm pretty good at Dig-Dug!
	6:20pm queems: @kat i added you!! 5944 6358 7025 is me, i’m frowncine
	6:20pm ultradamno: I played Angry Birds a little, like Paul, I did not find it addictive.
	6:20pm sim: The Age of Flash Games...
	6:21pm Roland from Australia: A bit late but here I am, let’s enjoy the show.
	6:21pm sim: But WebAssembly makes far better platform.
	6:22pm Amanda: 7781 2335 0656 <3 Amnazz4U
	6:22pm Chris Crash: This point is exactly why I'm so happy that the wfmu site hasn't become more shitty in the name of profit
	6:22pm sim: EVE Online?
	🤖 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park: Before the internet and smart phones, the popular hand-held electronic game was football with a grid of red LEDs.
	6:22pm miragliuolo: Speaking of games, China just further reduced how many hours kids under 18 can spend playing games per week.
	6:22pm David in London: Died in the Campfire is volume 6 of your autobiography, Handy.
	6:22pm Kat in Chicago: YAY queems. Most of my Chicago friends don’t play any more.
	6:23pm Amanda: Hi @miragliulo! Are you still playing Minecraft? :)
	6:23pm moparlarry: Wasted time and some $ playing Mafia Wars - the Simpsons tapped out model sounds so much like Zynga
	6:24pm miragliuolo: I can't imagine only being able to play for 3 hrs a week. Though I guess they can still play offline.
	6:25pm Chris Crash: Not much of a mobile games addict but you put me in front of a screen with Civ 5 and I won't break eye contact with it in hours
	6:25pm miragliuolo: Amanda: Yup! I go in and out of it. Play it a lot for a few weeks, then stop for a few months or years, then go back to it. I'm currently in a playing-it-a-lot phase. :)
	6:26pm sim: Pfft, Bandcamp and WFMU takes what little money I have. And now and the I have to get something and then it's eBay or Discogs.
	6:26pm queems: @kat i stopped for years but picked it up again in the spring! it’s a lot harder to play if you don’t know people irl who play it, especially since they aren’t giving out remote raid passes for free anymore
	6:26pm Kat in Chicago: Thanks Amanda, added you!
	6:26pm sim: Dwarf Fortress is the OneTrueGame.
	6:27pm Juli: I have only played the game Journey as an adult
	6:27pm miragliuolo: @sim I'm afraid of Dwarf Fortress. Either it would make me feel too dumb, or I'd get too sucked in.
	6:28pm sim: @Juli. Don't know Journey the game. What's it like?
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: Ken, I played the hell out of that game as a kid. David, it's the volume where everyone bogs down, but the reward is exquisite.
	6:28pm ultradamno: Does the milk crate challenge (and TikTok ban) play into online gaming?
	6:28pm Kat in Chicago: @queems sometimes they have those event boxes for 1 coin that have a remote raid pass. I wish they were still all free though
	6:28pm ultradamno: ...a video game equivalent of setting up milk crates would be safer.
	6:29pm sim: @miragliuolo. It's more interesting than an ant farm or the Sims.
	6:29pm P-90: “……gamer culture, and how GENUINELY AWFUL most of those people are…”
	6:29pm Juli: It is about girl who flies thru a landscape V pretty
	6:29pm queems: @kat i always forget about the 1 coin boxes!! i always spend my coins on storage space because i refuse to delete my infinite lotads
	6:29pm sim: Cuphead is a fun game.
	6:30pm Juli: Games can be beautiful art
	6:30pm Juli: Coool I wanted to play Cuphead
	6:31pm sim: @Juli. Cuphead has a FANTASTIC soundtrack.
	6:31pm Kat in Chicago: “infinite lotads” LOL queems
	🤖 6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: I've never loaded any game apps onto my phone out of concern they'd be filled with spyware. I'm trying to remember where that notion came from. :-)
	6:31pm ultradamno: I think you got a free game, is how that happened.
	6:32pm P-90: Any Fallout fans here?
	6:32pm queems: lolll rick rolled
	6:32pm sim: @Juli. And if you like old timey cartoons (as I do), it's worth getting.
	6:32pm timinoak: Mars!
	6:32pm Vanessa bikes: lol
	6:32pm Juli: My boyfriend made us buy a Fallout shower curtain lmao
	6:32pm sim: I'm getting Rick rolled on WFMU!
	6:32pm Rick Roll: gotcha!
	6:32pm David in London: Damn, Rick rolled on Techtonic. Didn’t see that coming.
	6:33pm Kat in Chicago: rickroll eye roll
	6:33pm Paulie B: Oh good. It appears I tuned in at the exact time I didn't have to hear my own voice.
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: David, it's because we are never, ever going to give you up.
	6:33pm timinoak: I've been using Duolingo on the iPhone and it's been a fun-is learning experience.
	6:33pm queems: gotta catch em all, you know
	6:34pm Juli: Nice I will check out Cuphead
	🤖 6:34pm Handy Haversack: Nice to hear your voice, Paulie B!
	6:35pm Kat in Chicago: I’ve been learning French on Duolingo ever since my second trip to Montréal
	6:35pm sim: Fortnite is prolly the most toxic community.
	6:35pm Roland from Australia: My friend and colleague looked over at ma and said why did they play that song, I hate that song … lol 😝
	6:36pm Chris Crash: I was a part of a comic forum community for years and we've remained the most wholesome friends, and I totally get that this is different than the traditional communities where it's just dudes screeching online at themselves and other people
	6:36pm Paulie B: Though I am sad I apparently missed an OnlyFans discussion.
	6:36pm sim: Usenet... alt.religion.kibology
	6:36pm Juli: Aol baby Facebook Myspace
	6:37pm Kat in Chicago: One of the things I like most about Pokémon Go is sending/receiving the gift postcards because you get to see landmarks from people’s neighborhoods and travels.
	6:37pm ?: Listening to the show doing raid hour with my pokemon crew! I'm used to raid hour on Wednesday and hearing Ken and Andy so I was confused for a minute!
	6:37pm P-90: The Fortnite community is particularly toxic? Interesting
	6:38pm sim: Oh, man, and bbs before that! Anyone remember Penn & Teller's Mofo the Gorilla bbs?
	6:40pm miragliuolo: I was all about BBS's back in the day! Mostly for playing games, but did a bit of chatting too. Almost never called long distance though, so I never saw any of the big/famous BBS's.
	6:40pm timinoak: "music for lunatics!"
	6:40pm queems: i’ve had a spanish duolingo streak going for like 500+ days, it’s def the best thing i did during the pandemic
	6:41pm Paulie B: Facebook changed their events format and it totally sucks now. One its few positives... gone.
	6:42pm Amanda: Everyone sorry I rickrolled you, but I was just so curious about how it would go
	6:42pm sim: @miragliuolo Were you ever on Slashdot?
	6:42pm queems: i love instagram but i hate that it’s facebook :(
	6:43pm Kat in Chicago: Agreed, events are messed up on FB now. I got my current job and the temp job I had before that on LinkedIn, it can be annoying but I’m not gonna knock it!
	6:43pm timinoak: Linkedin seems like a terrible idea. Hey everyone, here's my detailed resume.
	6:43pm miragliuolo: @sim Just occasional reading. For actual participation, metafilter was my jam.
	6:43pm sim: Soul Strut!
	6:43pm Lake Hiawatha Doug: When I first joined LinkedIn, they didn’t have Teacher as an option, so I made myself a ship builder. Haven’t changed it since. https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-palermo-ba80791a
	6:44pm diciassette: last.fm used to be fun, but they took all the fun things away
	🤖 6:44pm Handy Haversack: We're heading out to socially network with the neighbors over yardwine. Great to hear you, Amanda! And to be here with all you fine Techyon Drives. See youse all soon!
	6:45pm timinoak: very cool. When I was on it, I listed myself as a gentleman farmer. I then turned into a llama.
	6:45pm Amanda: Bye Handy! Thanks for listnin
	6:45pm sim: @miragliuolo. It was the best place before CmdrTaco left. A stronghold, a bastion, of hackerdom. Now that's prolly split between Reddit and Hacker News on ycombinator.
	6:45pm Kat in Chicago: Aw don’t apologize for the rickroll! Horse ebooks is long gone but I still say “Everything happens so much”
	6:46pm Paulie B: @Amanda: Oddly enough, I didn't flinch at all in hearing Rick Astley. I just assumed you played it because you liked it!
	6:46pm timinoak: I'd like to do instagram, but, they're owned by FB.
	6:46pm Juli: I used Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for talking and seeing. I plan to post no more...maybe a few more posts...
	6:46pm Juli: Remember ello
	6:46pm Kat in Chicago: Yeah they ruined last.fm too
	6:46pm queems: i feel like the whole internet used to be for fantasy self, RIP
	6:47pm Amanda: Amen queems!
	6:47pm Juli: I really love Depop for clothing geeking
	6:47pm Wint: IM BANKY
	6:48pm Juli: Wint :D
	6:48pm Amanda: @Juli oh noooo that sounds like something I would love
	6:48pm Chris Crash: Oh wow geez Abbie just thoroughly codified why Twitter has been bumming me out lately
	6:48pm JJ NY-SC: My goto for the last few months has been Reddit. I didn't post for a good long time but since then I've asked questions or even answered a question or too. Other platforms I may have posted once and got such vitriolic responses that I never did it again. They have been much kinder and gentler to me on Reddit.
	6:48pm Jim the Poet: I'm on the subway! And I forgot my headphones at home! Can't wait to listen to the archived show!
	6:48pm modern blaze: Hooks also present
	6:48pm queems: omg wint is here
	6:48pm Amanda: dril in the houseeee Hi Jim!
	6:48pm sim: Anyone use irc? And everything2?
	6:48pm miragliuolo: There's a book by Tim Wu called The Master Switch that I always think of when I reminisce about how sites/communities used to be better back in the day... He focuses mostly on "Information Empires" like "radio" and "the internet" but I think the premise can be applied on smaller scales to forums and social media. It's about things starting off very open, as a more free alternative to something else, but then eventually becomes just as locked down as what it replaced.
	6:48pm Wint: No
	6:49pm Juli: O Amanda be careful...ppl in Japan and China and all over America have the best clothing and magazines.
	6:49pm adampsyche: i was on an irc for 20ish years and we migrated to slack
	🤖 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: Spoiler alert, Jim: Rickroll!
	6:49pm Jim the Poet: I love dril
	6:50pm David in London: Gotta crash now. Thanks Amanda. Night everyone.
	6:50pm ultradamno: Speaking of blue checks there was a blip about a week or so ago where Twitter where Danny DeVito's check was revoked (and ultimately restored) after he posted in support of the Nabisco strike.
	6:51pm Jeff Moore: Yeah, I used to use Facebook a lot, and now maybe check it a couple of times a week... Facebook is still the place I find the most of the people I personally know in actual meatspace real life, including people from the distant past. This is of course both good and bad. My favorite social media platform was (F%#k you if you laugh!) Google+. But of course Google mis-ran it then abandoned it. But G+ was such a great place for low-friction long-form conversations with, for instance, important tech people I'd admired from afar for decades. Twitter is KIND OF like this, except with the message length and formatting limitations... it doesn't feel as deep to me. I now spend most of my social media time on Instagram – where I went from general posts about local things and occasional WFMU-related photos to a weird obsessive practice of focusing on photographing wristwatches. Constantly, over and over. And with the hashtagging and gradual spread of contacts through that specialized community, I'm now in contact with a whole cadre of other people who pay way too much attention to timepieces. It's pretty remarkable, really, how that group-finding can happen. www.instagram.com...
	6:51pm modern blaze: Banners to be done not my thing one thing I want to write for today finally I’m married to my wife C originally from Florida and I’m from small town in past Soviet Union we not ashamed and that’s history sorry M.
	6:51pm Juli: I should say all over the world but mainly Japan and China...maybe I am just into Anime culture and Chinese imagery
	6:52pm queems: i read celebrity gossip on livejournal for like 10 years, talk about internet drama
	6:52pm Juli: Livejournal is mad cute
	6:52pm ultradamno: Mute is helpful is staying out of flame war stuff. Say your piece, mute the conversation and forget it.
	6:53pm Chris Crash: I feel like people also have a lot of aggression that they haven't got out of them, and yelling online is just an easy way to do that
	6:53pm Juli: Really sad that they destroyed my Myspace
	6:53pm Juli: It is easy to say anything online
	6:54pm modern blaze: @queems big thanks for the support we’ll meet in perdon fir sure if i’m nit dead this year
	6:54pm headcleaner: You weren't "late" to having a smartphone, Abbie - you were early to recognize the fundamental futility of these contraptions
	🤖 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: I forget ... what happened to Geocities?
	6:54pm Juli: Pair of pants!
	6:54pm modern blaze: Oops👄
	6:55pm Juli: Myspace was so cute
	6:55pm miragliuolo: What was the pre-internet equivalent of online social networks and forums?
	6:55pm ultradamno: Yahoo bought and ultimately killed it.
	6:55pm Juli: Cafes?
	6:55pm adampsyche: @Jeff the G+ platform was really good but unfortunately just no one used it
	6:55pm ultradamno: (Geocities that is)
	6:56pm Wint: Wristwatches are for pussies.
	6:56pm sim: I live on the internet and my brain is trash.
	6:56pm headcleaner: We can't remember how we communicated before the internet, miragliuolo - that's what's so terrifying!
	6:57pm Mahir: I KISS YOU ! ! !
	6:57pm Juli: Lol te telephone and magazines and papers
	6:57pm weiterso: early napster was great
	6:57pm timinoak: Abbie is also on archives! which all play great on the wfmu phone app =)
	🤖 6:58pm DjLorraine: I still enjoy a good Rick roll
	6:58pm Juli: Paper became digital I guess
	6:58pm ultradamno: Is telling time by looking at a non-digital wristwatch or clock going the way of cursive?
	6:58pm Juli: Now we have this whole new platform
	6:59pm Chris Crash: This reminds me how I, a guy in his mid 30s, is seeing people my age post memes that are like "back in my day, we didn't need smartphones or technology!!"
	6:59pm Juli: I still love holding print
	7:00pm P-90: Thanks Amanda!
	7:00pm Kat in Chicago: Fun show, Amanda!
	7:00pm Jeff Moore: @adampsyche: the common wisdom that "nobody used G+" kept being repeated over and over, to the detriment of a platform a lot of people actually used. I particularly blame tech journalists, and journalists in general, who assumed that because THEIR friends didn't use G+ (they were probably all over on Twitter), then "nobody" used G+.
	7:00pm Juli: Great hour of talking!~
	7:00pm Jeff Moore: Thanks, Amanda et al!
	🤖 7:01pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Amanda. See you Sunday night on the 12th 8:00 PM!
	7:01pm P-90: hi
	7:06pm Amanda: Bye everyone and thank you so much for listening! This comments discussion was so erudite! Xo
	4:45am Parang: If you pay attention, then a very large number of people play video games, so I want to talk about the site askboosters.com... which specializes in increasing ratings in popular video games.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 30, 2021

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	Interview with WFMU DJ Paul Bruno "Interview with WFMU DJ Paul Bruno"		0:13:59 (Pop-up)
Rick Astley	Never Gonna Give You Up (excerpt)		0:31:05 (Pop-up)
	Thoughts on social media! "Thoughts on social media!"		0:37:07 (Pop-up)
	Interview with WFMU DJ Abbie From Mars		0:37:52 (Pop-up)
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Listener comments!
	🤖 6:01pm David (in London): Evening Technoids and all hail the Amanda-in-Chief.
	6:02pm YETI BOB: Hi Amanda! Hi David! Do you know that Irene played a Daona track today? I thought of you.
	6:02pm LastWhiteRhino: Halo !
	6:02pm alanSixº: 👋
	6:02pm Chris Crash: Hey Amanda!
	6:03pm Phillippe: Hey Amanda!
	6:03pm listener james from westwood: Evening, Amanda and all!
	🤖 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Good evening, Amanda. Excited to hear about the tech scenario.
	6:04pm Phillippe: DiL how was the vaca?
	🤖 6:04pm Handy Haversack: Hi, Amanda and the Technarios! What a tonic. Hey, David!
	6:04pm P-90: Amandatonic!
	6:04pm David in London: Yeti Bob, hello mate. Did she? Oh bless her, that’s kind of her. I was on the road today, so sadly couldn’t listen. I’ll have to listen via the archive. And how are you sir?
	6:04pm headcleaner: I love how not-so-ironically dated that "ironically dated" billboard now seems
	6:04pm timinoak: Abbie From Mars!!!!! yay!!!!
	6:04pm sim: Good evening, radioland and all points on the internet!
	6:05pm ultradamno: Amanda! Onlyfantonics! Only Fans predictably walked this back, since what else do they have?
	6:05pm P-90: Aww, I was hoping to hear about Amanda’s Only Fans…
	🤖 6:05pm Handy Haversack: Hope it was a good trip, David. Hey, ultradamno!
	🤖 6:05pm herb.nyc: Hola. This OnlyFans is different from escort services / prostitution of Back Pages. Yes?
	🤖 6:05pm Bas NL: Hi Amanda & techies!
	6:05pm ultradamno: Well, if Bella Thorne and Renee Olstead are famous. Hiya Handy!
	6:06pm sim: Amanda uses OnlyAirConditioners.
	6:06pm melinda: hi everyone!
	6:06pm David in London: Phillippe, Handy, Ken, salutations all. Phillippe, it was a real balm for the mind and the spirit. Some days walking out of town, exhibitions, cinema, museums, tea and books in the garden. Bliss.
	🤖 6:06pm Handy Haversack: The tumblr decision was rough on the independent end of independent tabletop gaming, too.
	6:07pm David in London: Bas, ultradamno, Melinda. Ahoy.
	6:07pm Chris Crash: Oh my God I remember that yahoo billboard
	6:07pm P-90: Let’s hear it for those “legitimate, above-board sex workers”, they gotta eat too
	6:07pm ultradamno: Hey DiL!
	6:08pm sim: IMDB does shadow banning? Who knew.
	🤖 6:08pm Handy Haversack: Paywall on Daily Beast, it seems.
	6:08pm ultradamno: Maitland Ward, another former Disney girl (Boy Meets World)
	6:08pm listener james from westwood: And who owns IMDB? Amazon!
	6:08pm headcleaner: Well there was Craigslist's decision to ban first ads by sex workers - and then, ultimately, all "personal ads" (since the latter category tended to include many ads from the former category, due to the sketchy way CL runs), about 3 years ago
	6:08pm queems: ooooo i aggressively play pokemon go
	6:08pm P-90: Wait, haven’t I seen tons of adult performers listed in IMDB…?
	6:09pm Chris Crash: A chill went down my spine hearing the name "Simpsons Tapped Out" That was a thoroughly addictive two weeks
	🤖 6:09pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey, David. Hope you have a good view of The Shard tonight.
	6:09pm Kathleen from JC: Love hearing you on Techtonic, Amanda!
	6:10pm ultradamno: Wait, BMW was ABC, Girl Meets World was Disney. Child actor at any rate.
	6:10pm queems: we should be pokemon go friends, i give gifts every day rotfl i don’t think that is the point of this show today but
	6:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Never cared for Games of any sort whatsoever. Your 'Simpson's Time' podcast, however, lightened several commutes to werk & the like.
	6:10pm listener james from westwood: Paul Bruno! [Ghost Dog music rises in background]
	6:11pm YETI BOB: D(iL): I'm fine, got out of town for the weekend, visited some friends in Michigan. It's not quite as hot as it's been, I'm enjoying the end-of-summer vibe.
	6:11pm Kathleen from JC: Our girl cat Hela is a gamer. She stole my iPad and incessantly plays Catzilla.
	🤖 6:12pm Handy Haversack: Our recently deceased cat, Lulu, was a tabletop RPG fan -- she especially liked rolling the dice. Onto the floor. And curling up to pose on the books.
	6:13pm ultradamno: I play Mahjong on occasion...3D even sometimes, so that's pretty gamer, right?
	6:14pm Phillippe: That sounds great, David!
	6:14pm yippie: i used to play the sims mobile game
	6:15pm Chris Crash: Curious if Amanda or Paulie B remembers what their Springfields look like
	6:15pm sim: Spaceteam is a great mobile phone game for friends at a table. Frantic, cooperative, loud.
	6:16pm Amanda: More gamer cats! That will be the next fill-in. WELCOME, everyone!
	🤖 6:17pm Ken From Hyde Park: King Toot's music store. With the Egyptian motif.
	6:18pm queems: the only game i ever played was tetris
	6:18pm Amanda: I took a long time to build my Monorail because it was just so ugly! Didn't want to mess up my Springfield.
	6:18pm Kat in Chicago: queems! Amanda! other trainers! Noiselifer here. 4922 2010 9045, feel free to add me.
	6:18pm sim: Robot Unicorn Attack [adult swim]... With the Erasure soundtrack.
	6:19pm Kat in Chicago: Anyone else addicted to Threes?
	🤖 6:19pm Handy Haversack: I had a freelance gig for a while writing copy for Lord of the Rings Online MMORPG. They gave me an account and the software. I could never get out of the training area and often died in the campfire. So ... yeah, I stick with dice and pencils. Though I'm pretty good at Dig-Dug!
	6:20pm queems: @kat i added you!! 5944 6358 7025 is me, i’m frowncine
	6:20pm ultradamno: I played Angry Birds a little, like Paul, I did not find it addictive.
	6:20pm sim: The Age of Flash Games...
	6:21pm Roland from Australia: A bit late but here I am, let’s enjoy the show.
	6:21pm sim: But WebAssembly makes far better platform.
	6:22pm Amanda: 7781 2335 0656 <3 Amnazz4U
	6:22pm Chris Crash: This point is exactly why I'm so happy that the wfmu site hasn't become more shitty in the name of profit
	6:22pm sim: EVE Online?
	🤖 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park: Before the internet and smart phones, the popular hand-held electronic game was football with a grid of red LEDs.
	6:22pm miragliuolo: Speaking of games, China just further reduced how many hours kids under 18 can spend playing games per week.
	6:22pm David in London: Died in the Campfire is volume 6 of your autobiography, Handy.
	6:22pm Kat in Chicago: YAY queems. Most of my Chicago friends don’t play any more.
	6:23pm Amanda: Hi @miragliulo! Are you still playing Minecraft? :)
	6:23pm moparlarry: Wasted time and some $ playing Mafia Wars - the Simpsons tapped out model sounds so much like Zynga
	6:24pm miragliuolo: I can't imagine only being able to play for 3 hrs a week. Though I guess they can still play offline.
	6:25pm Chris Crash: Not much of a mobile games addict but you put me in front of a screen with Civ 5 and I won't break eye contact with it in hours
	6:25pm miragliuolo: Amanda: Yup! I go in and out of it. Play it a lot for a few weeks, then stop for a few months or years, then go back to it. I'm currently in a playing-it-a-lot phase. :)
	6:26pm sim: Pfft, Bandcamp and WFMU takes what little money I have. And now and the I have to get something and then it's eBay or Discogs.
	6:26pm queems: @kat i stopped for years but picked it up again in the spring! it’s a lot harder to play if you don’t know people irl who play it, especially since they aren’t giving out remote raid passes for free anymore
	6:26pm Kat in Chicago: Thanks Amanda, added you!
	6:26pm sim: Dwarf Fortress is the OneTrueGame.
	6:27pm Juli: I have only played the game Journey as an adult
	6:27pm miragliuolo: @sim I'm afraid of Dwarf Fortress. Either it would make me feel too dumb, or I'd get too sucked in.
	6:28pm sim: @Juli. Don't know Journey the game. What's it like?
	🤖 6:28pm Handy Haversack: Ken, I played the hell out of that game as a kid. David, it's the volume where everyone bogs down, but the reward is exquisite.
	6:28pm ultradamno: Does the milk crate challenge (and TikTok ban) play into online gaming?
	6:28pm Kat in Chicago: @queems sometimes they have those event boxes for 1 coin that have a remote raid pass. I wish they were still all free though
	6:28pm ultradamno: ...a video game equivalent of setting up milk crates would be safer.
	6:29pm sim: @miragliuolo. It's more interesting than an ant farm or the Sims.
	6:29pm P-90: “……gamer culture, and how GENUINELY AWFUL most of those people are…”
	6:29pm Juli: It is about girl who flies thru a landscape V pretty
	6:29pm queems: @kat i always forget about the 1 coin boxes!! i always spend my coins on storage space because i refuse to delete my infinite lotads
	6:29pm sim: Cuphead is a fun game.
	6:30pm Juli: Games can be beautiful art
	6:30pm Juli: Coool I wanted to play Cuphead
	6:31pm sim: @Juli. Cuphead has a FANTASTIC soundtrack.
	6:31pm Kat in Chicago: “infinite lotads” LOL queems
	🤖 6:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: I've never loaded any game apps onto my phone out of concern they'd be filled with spyware. I'm trying to remember where that notion came from. :-)
	6:31pm ultradamno: I think you got a free game, is how that happened.
	6:32pm P-90: Any Fallout fans here?
	6:32pm queems: lolll rick rolled
	6:32pm sim: @Juli. And if you like old timey cartoons (as I do), it's worth getting.
	6:32pm timinoak: Mars!
	6:32pm Vanessa bikes: lol
	6:32pm Juli: My boyfriend made us buy a Fallout shower curtain lmao
	6:32pm sim: I'm getting Rick rolled on WFMU!
	6:32pm Rick Roll: gotcha!
	6:32pm David in London: Damn, Rick rolled on Techtonic. Didn’t see that coming.
	6:33pm Kat in Chicago: rickroll eye roll
	6:33pm Paulie B: Oh good. It appears I tuned in at the exact time I didn't have to hear my own voice.
	🤖 6:33pm Handy Haversack: David, it's because we are never, ever going to give you up.
	6:33pm timinoak: I've been using Duolingo on the iPhone and it's been a fun-is learning experience.
	6:33pm queems: gotta catch em all, you know
	6:34pm Juli: Nice I will check out Cuphead
	🤖 6:34pm Handy Haversack: Nice to hear your voice, Paulie B!
	6:35pm Kat in Chicago: I’ve been learning French on Duolingo ever since my second trip to Montréal
	6:35pm sim: Fortnite is prolly the most toxic community.
	6:35pm Roland from Australia: My friend and colleague looked over at ma and said why did they play that song, I hate that song … lol 😝
	6:36pm Chris Crash: I was a part of a comic forum community for years and we've remained the most wholesome friends, and I totally get that this is different than the traditional communities where it's just dudes screeching online at themselves and other people
	6:36pm Paulie B: Though I am sad I apparently missed an OnlyFans discussion.
	6:36pm sim: Usenet... alt.religion.kibology
	6:36pm Juli: Aol baby Facebook Myspace
	6:37pm Kat in Chicago: One of the things I like most about Pokémon Go is sending/receiving the gift postcards because you get to see landmarks from people’s neighborhoods and travels.
	6:37pm ?: Listening to the show doing raid hour with my pokemon crew! I'm used to raid hour on Wednesday and hearing Ken and Andy so I was confused for a minute!
	6:37pm P-90: The Fortnite community is particularly toxic? Interesting
	6:38pm sim: Oh, man, and bbs before that! Anyone remember Penn & Teller's Mofo the Gorilla bbs?
	6:40pm miragliuolo: I was all about BBS's back in the day! Mostly for playing games, but did a bit of chatting too. Almost never called long distance though, so I never saw any of the big/famous BBS's.
	6:40pm timinoak: "music for lunatics!"
	6:40pm queems: i’ve had a spanish duolingo streak going for like 500+ days, it’s def the best thing i did during the pandemic
	6:41pm Paulie B: Facebook changed their events format and it totally sucks now. One its few positives... gone.
	6:42pm Amanda: Everyone sorry I rickrolled you, but I was just so curious about how it would go
	6:42pm sim: @miragliuolo Were you ever on Slashdot?
	6:42pm queems: i love instagram but i hate that it’s facebook :(
	6:43pm Kat in Chicago: Agreed, events are messed up on FB now. I got my current job and the temp job I had before that on LinkedIn, it can be annoying but I’m not gonna knock it!
	6:43pm timinoak: Linkedin seems like a terrible idea. Hey everyone, here's my detailed resume.
	6:43pm miragliuolo: @sim Just occasional reading. For actual participation, metafilter was my jam.
	6:43pm sim: Soul Strut!
	6:43pm Lake Hiawatha Doug: When I first joined LinkedIn, they didn’t have Teacher as an option, so I made myself a ship builder. Haven’t changed it since. https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-palermo-ba80791a
	6:44pm diciassette: last.fm used to be fun, but they took all the fun things away
	🤖 6:44pm Handy Haversack: We're heading out to socially network with the neighbors over yardwine. Great to hear you, Amanda! And to be here with all you fine Techyon Drives. See youse all soon!
	6:45pm timinoak: very cool. When I was on it, I listed myself as a gentleman farmer. I then turned into a llama.
	6:45pm Amanda: Bye Handy! Thanks for listnin
	6:45pm sim: @miragliuolo. It was the best place before CmdrTaco left. A stronghold, a bastion, of hackerdom. Now that's prolly split between Reddit and Hacker News on ycombinator.
	6:45pm Kat in Chicago: Aw don’t apologize for the rickroll! Horse ebooks is long gone but I still say “Everything happens so much”
	6:46pm Paulie B: @Amanda: Oddly enough, I didn't flinch at all in hearing Rick Astley. I just assumed you played it because you liked it!
	6:46pm timinoak: I'd like to do instagram, but, they're owned by FB.
	6:46pm Juli: I used Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for talking and seeing. I plan to post no more...maybe a few more posts...
	6:46pm Juli: Remember ello
	6:46pm Kat in Chicago: Yeah they ruined last.fm too
	6:46pm queems: i feel like the whole internet used to be for fantasy self, RIP
	6:47pm Amanda: Amen queems!
	6:47pm Juli: I really love Depop for clothing geeking
	6:47pm Wint: IM BANKY
	6:48pm Juli: Wint :D
	6:48pm Amanda: @Juli oh noooo that sounds like something I would love
	6:48pm Chris Crash: Oh wow geez Abbie just thoroughly codified why Twitter has been bumming me out lately
	6:48pm JJ NY-SC: My goto for the last few months has been Reddit. I didn't post for a good long time but since then I've asked questions or even answered a question or too. Other platforms I may have posted once and got such vitriolic responses that I never did it again. They have been much kinder and gentler to me on Reddit.
	6:48pm Jim the Poet: I'm on the subway! And I forgot my headphones at home! Can't wait to listen to the archived show!
	6:48pm modern blaze: Hooks also present
	6:48pm queems: omg wint is here
	6:48pm Amanda: dril in the houseeee Hi Jim!
	6:48pm sim: Anyone use irc? And everything2?
	6:48pm miragliuolo: There's a book by Tim Wu called The Master Switch that I always think of when I reminisce about how sites/communities used to be better back in the day... He focuses mostly on "Information Empires" like "radio" and "the internet" but I think the premise can be applied on smaller scales to forums and social media. It's about things starting off very open, as a more free alternative to something else, but then eventually becomes just as locked down as what it replaced.
	6:48pm Wint: No
	6:49pm Juli: O Amanda be careful...ppl in Japan and China and all over America have the best clothing and magazines.
	6:49pm adampsyche: i was on an irc for 20ish years and we migrated to slack
	🤖 6:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: Spoiler alert, Jim: Rickroll!
	6:49pm Jim the Poet: I love dril
	6:50pm David in London: Gotta crash now. Thanks Amanda. Night everyone.
	6:50pm ultradamno: Speaking of blue checks there was a blip about a week or so ago where Twitter where Danny DeVito's check was revoked (and ultimately restored) after he posted in support of the Nabisco strike.
	6:51pm Jeff Moore: Yeah, I used to use Facebook a lot, and now maybe check it a couple of times a week... Facebook is still the place I find the most of the people I personally know in actual meatspace real life, including people from the distant past. This is of course both good and bad. My favorite social media platform was (F%#k you if you laugh!) Google+. But of course Google mis-ran it then abandoned it. But G+ was such a great place for low-friction long-form conversations with, for instance, important tech people I'd admired from afar for decades. Twitter is KIND OF like this, except with the message length and formatting limitations... it doesn't feel as deep to me. I now spend most of my social media time on Instagram – where I went from general posts about local things and occasional WFMU-related photos to a weird obsessive practice of focusing on photographing wristwatches. Constantly, over and over. And with the hashtagging and gradual spread of contacts through that specialized community, I'm now in contact with a whole cadre of other people who pay way too much attention to timepieces. It's pretty remarkable, really, how that group-finding can happen. www.instagram.com...
	6:51pm modern blaze: Banners to be done not my thing one thing I want to write for today finally I’m married to my wife C originally from Florida and I’m from small town in past Soviet Union we not ashamed and that’s history sorry M.
	6:51pm Juli: I should say all over the world but mainly Japan and China...maybe I am just into Anime culture and Chinese imagery
	6:52pm queems: i read celebrity gossip on livejournal for like 10 years, talk about internet drama
	6:52pm Juli: Livejournal is mad cute
	6:52pm ultradamno: Mute is helpful is staying out of flame war stuff. Say your piece, mute the conversation and forget it.
	6:53pm Chris Crash: I feel like people also have a lot of aggression that they haven't got out of them, and yelling online is just an easy way to do that
	6:53pm Juli: Really sad that they destroyed my Myspace
	6:53pm Juli: It is easy to say anything online
	6:54pm modern blaze: @queems big thanks for the support we’ll meet in perdon fir sure if i’m nit dead this year
	6:54pm headcleaner: You weren't "late" to having a smartphone, Abbie - you were early to recognize the fundamental futility of these contraptions
	🤖 6:54pm Ken From Hyde Park: I forget ... what happened to Geocities?
	6:54pm Juli: Pair of pants!
	6:54pm modern blaze: Oops👄
	6:55pm Juli: Myspace was so cute
	6:55pm miragliuolo: What was the pre-internet equivalent of online social networks and forums?
	6:55pm ultradamno: Yahoo bought and ultimately killed it.
	6:55pm Juli: Cafes?
	6:55pm adampsyche: @Jeff the G+ platform was really good but unfortunately just no one used it
	6:55pm ultradamno: (Geocities that is)
	6:56pm Wint: Wristwatches are for pussies.
	6:56pm sim: I live on the internet and my brain is trash.
	6:56pm headcleaner: We can't remember how we communicated before the internet, miragliuolo - that's what's so terrifying!
	6:57pm Mahir: I KISS YOU ! ! !
	6:57pm Juli: Lol te telephone and magazines and papers
	6:57pm weiterso: early napster was great
	6:57pm timinoak: Abbie is also on archives! which all play great on the wfmu phone app =)
	🤖 6:58pm DjLorraine: I still enjoy a good Rick roll
	6:58pm Juli: Paper became digital I guess
	6:58pm ultradamno: Is telling time by looking at a non-digital wristwatch or clock going the way of cursive?
	6:58pm Juli: Now we have this whole new platform
	6:59pm Chris Crash: This reminds me how I, a guy in his mid 30s, is seeing people my age post memes that are like "back in my day, we didn't need smartphones or technology!!"
	6:59pm Juli: I still love holding print
	7:00pm P-90: Thanks Amanda!
	7:00pm Kat in Chicago: Fun show, Amanda!
	7:00pm Jeff Moore: @adampsyche: the common wisdom that "nobody used G+" kept being repeated over and over, to the detriment of a platform a lot of people actually used. I particularly blame tech journalists, and journalists in general, who assumed that because THEIR friends didn't use G+ (they were probably all over on Twitter), then "nobody" used G+.
	7:00pm Juli: Great hour of talking!~
	7:00pm Jeff Moore: Thanks, Amanda et al!
	🤖 7:01pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Amanda. See you Sunday night on the 12th 8:00 PM!
	7:01pm P-90: hi
	7:06pm Amanda: Bye everyone and thank you so much for listening! This comments discussion was so erudite! Xo
	4:45am Parang: If you pay attention, then a very large number of people play video games, so I want to talk about the site askboosters.com... which specializes in increasing ratings in popular video games.

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