WFMU: Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from May 6, 2021

Listener comments!
	10:00am MHLee: Hello, good morning/afternoon
	10:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	10:03am johnk77: drinking first cup of cafe caribe dripped thru #2 filter w/added natural bliss;>
	10:04am Jan Turkenburg: Hey Johnk77!
	10:04am johnk77: peace & respect
	10:05am theia: sounds under 64 not allowed, just my speed :)
	10:06am Jan Turkenburg: Hello theia!
	10:10am theia: nothing like that first coffee of the day, the next ones are never so good
	10:11am Jan Turkenburg: true
	10:12am MHLee: I really like Annette Henshaw. Discovered here through a cover of "If You Want the Rainbow"
	10:12am Jan Turkenburg: lovely voice she has
	10:13am MHLee: It says she started recording at 16 and retired at 24 in 34
	10:14am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, that's right according to my info, but she recorded about 200 songs.
	10:17am Jan Turkenburg: so therre should be enough songs for the coming episodes :-)
	10:18am chresti: Morning Jan and over/unders!
	10:18am MHLee: It's amazing how prolific some of these early singers are.
	10:22am Jan Turkenburg: Hi chresti!
	10:25am theia: :)
	10:25am MHLee: Now that's a baritone!
	10:27am Franco Twinkie: Hey Jan. Yesterday I cleaned out the last scraps of my shop that I had for 23 years. Forty, counting my residence next door. The junk removers I contracted were called Aloha.
	10:29am Jan Turkenburg: haha! Hi Franco!
	10:33am Ursula1000: good morning Jan!
	10:33am Jan Turkenburg: Goodmorning Ursula!
	10:37am MHLee: Original singer of "Tiptoe Through the Tulips"
	10:37am Eric Kilkenny: @franco what kind of shop was it?
	10:38am Eric Kilkenny: my piano teacher used to make me play this Cup of Coffe a sandwich and you
	10:38am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, MHLee, I happen to know that, (also) released on Durium Records if I'm not mistaken.
	10:39am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Eric!
	10:40am MHLee: I wasn't sure if I was remembering correctly at first... I've spent time looking for all the reference recordings tiny tim uses.
	10:40am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, I'm curious as well, Franco, but I assumed you probably told a few times when I wasn't paying attention...
	10:43am Rich in Washington: JAN!
	10:45am Jan Turkenburg: RICH!
	10:49am MHLee: this is such a hum-able song
	10:51am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, from the days they still made hummable songs by the dozen, sigh...
	10:52am Eric Kilkenny: you mean a melody? :)
	10:52am MHLee: They say melody has been on the way out in popular music.
	10:52am Eric Kilkenny: do people ever hum the harmony outside of a group?
	10:53am chresti: Yes
	10:55am MHLee: Well, I was a bluegrass musician for several years. A lot of people end up humming the tenor harmony because it's integral to the songs but the melody gets covered.
	10:55am Eric Kilkenny: Melody doesn't need to be as strong in hip hop. It's strength is rhythm and harmony. Melody, Rhythm and Harmony are all equal parts of music to me. Many of these older songs I think put melody in the front because of the recording technology. I.E. Bass and drums etc.. didn't record as well. I think this humable thing is a bias of the technology.
	10:56am chresti: It's all about the hook.
	10:57am Eric Kilkenny: I'd say aside from a general type of music enthusiast. For most listeners out there it's all about the lyrics since the dawn of time.
	10:57am Eric Kilkenny: it has always seemed to me that people, in general, care more about the lyrics to a song than the music
	10:59am MHLee: Rythym is definitely a huge part of it. Billie Eilish's pop is big on rhythm. A lot of the alternative stuff out has movements so the melody isn't consistant.
	11:01am Ursula1000: I was just reading an article from the New York Times called "How Pop Music Lost the Melody" and its from...1994! It seems like this trend fluctuates. I agree with Eric on the technology/recording side of things where bass and drums are more in the forefront than before. The thing that drives me crazy is that chord progression that's SO overused like Journey's Don’t Stop Believing. It's evil head always resides in the Top 10 somewhere! Ugh.
	11:01am MHLee: Any idea why I can drag Charles Prince's head around the screen? It's mildly entertaining.
	11:02am MHLee: @Ursula I assume you've heard the axis of awesome's four chords?
	11:03am Ursula1000: haha was just reading it now @MHLee
	11:05am MHLee: That's such a good song.
	11:06am Ursula1000: Rick Beato has a good YouTube clip on The Four Chords That Killed POP Music.
	11:06am Eric Kilkenny: Yes, exactly! over the use of the same chord progressions is what sucks the most in music. TOTALLY AGREE 1000% about that.
	11:08am Eric Kilkenny: Hah yeh I've watched Rick Beatos stuff
	11:10am Feldpausch: Hi Jan! Hi everybodyyy
	11:10am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Adam!
	11:10am MHLee: I've got a couple I've been watching recently. Bandsplaining and Trash Theory have hit a particular music niche for me.
	11:10am Eric Kilkenny: I do think that if you're writing music, starting with a simple hummable melody is the way to go. And then figure out chords that fit it.
	11:11am MHLee: You see, I'm a poet. I find I can't dream up new melodies. It's always a song I've heard before. I just need to dig to remember forwhere.
	11:12am Jan Turkenburg: By now most of the hummable melodies have already been written...
	11:13am Mr Fab: How wonderful is it to wake up to Spike Jones, ha, g’morning y’all.
	11:14am MHLee: Sing folk music and add a few new lines. I've done that ala Holy Modal Rounders before. Good morning!
	11:14am Jan Turkenburg: Hey Mr. Fab!
	11:23am Jan Turkenburg: THE Dutch coffee song of all times!
	11:24am Jan Turkenburg: I don't think there is anyone here who doesn't know the chorus.
	11:26am MHLee: Why the pseudonym?
	11:27am Jan Turkenburg: Don't know. Just found out it was one last night.
	11:28am Eric Kilkenny: @Jan I like that you're complaining about nobody writing hummable melodies while at the same time saying they have all been written.
	11:28am MHLee: I know sometimes it was a way to get around record contracts: simply pretend you are not Lucille Bogan!
	11:29am Mr Fab: re songwriting: the SOUND is all-important in the recording era. In the old days, everyone used the same instruments more or less, but the 20th made the sound as important as melody, rhythm, etc. Brian Eno used to do needle-drop challenges where he would play a second of classical or jazz and no one could guess the song, but modern pop/rock tracks were instantly recognizable. See, this is what they don't tell you in music school...
	11:32am Jan Turkenburg: true
	11:33am Jan Turkenburg: There are lot of thing they don't teach you in music school...
	11:33am Mr Fab: hence, the development of things like ambient music. No tunes or rhythms needed! Just pure texture.
	11:36am MHLee: RE: Brogan... apparently, she ditched her previous name and adopted some new stylistic leanings after moving to new york
	11:37am Jan Turkenburg: ah thanks MHLee!
	11:39am MHLee: Back to New York... apparently as well... her early work was record on Okeh in New York then she recorded in Chicago then around the 1930s she's back in New York
	11:41am MHLee: I've heard that one (Kuljen eksyksissä) before actually.
	11:42am Eric Kilkenny: @Fab exactly!
	11:43am Eric Kilkenny: you could say our era added a 4th tier to music which is texture/vibe etc... So music is comprised of Melody, Harmony, Rhythm and Texture(vibe?)
	11:44am Mr Fab: Yes, i agree, Eric.
	11:45am Ursula1000: I can listen to you drone about ambient music for days Mr Fab
	11:45am Ursula1000: zing!
	11:45am Jan Turkenburg: Actually classical composers used texture a s well creating new sounds by combining the colours of different instruments. The new thing now is that sometimes we let go of the other parameters.
	11:46am Mr Fab: Ursula, ha!
	11:48am MHLee: Indeed a big thing about classical instead of baroque is the piano allows for new dynamics. A harpsichord is always the same dyanmic.
	11:50am Franco Twinkie: Eric@10:37- It was a cabinet shop. I'm feeling weirdly disoriented right now, but kind of euphoric as well.
	11:55am chresti: Thanks Jan!
	11:57am Ursula1000: Cheers Jan---fab show---Sounds Spectacular next wfmu.org...
	11:57am Feldpausch: Thank you Jan!
	11:57am Mr Fab: you're cat is 20?!
	11:57am Franco Twinkie: Thank you Jan.
	11:58am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, he is the oldest pet I ever had.
	11:58am MHLee: Awesome show.
	9:06am WR: Archive listening. The comments were interesting as well as the music. Thank you Jan for curating the music and hosting the playlist.
	9:39am WR: Nice pairing of Henshaw and Byas.
	10:48am WR: update from Wikipedia for future listeners, regarding Annette Hanshaw's career: "For many years it was believed that Hanshaw was born in 1910 and had begun her recording career shortly before her 16th birthday. However, she was born nine years earlier, making her 25 at the time of her first commercial recording in September 1926. Her nephew, Frank W. Hanshaw III, confirmed that 1901 is the year on her birth certificate."

Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from May 6, 2021

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Artist	Track	Year	Images	Approx. start time
Frank Sinatra	The Coffee Song "The Coffee Song" by "Frank Sinatra"	1946		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Rytmi-orkesteri George de Godzinskyn	Pauligin Marssi	1945		0:03:37 (Pop-up)
Bert van Dongen	Van Nelle's Koffielied	1934		0:06:03 (Pop-up)
Annette Hanshaw	Little White Lies	1930		0:10:50 (Pop-up)
Don Byas	Little White Lies "Little White Lies" by "Don Byas"	1945		0:13:44 (Pop-up)
Pentti Ahola Quintet	Valkoisia valeita (little white lies)	1952		0:16:27 (Pop-up)
Eduard Kapper	Schooiersliefde "Schooiersliefde" by "Eduard Kapper"	1923		0:22:00 (Pop-up)
Paul Robeson	Drink To Me Only With Thine Eyes	1938		0:24:40 (Pop-up)
Helma (+ Flying Dutchmen)	Schenk Mij Toch Uw Liefde Signorina	1950		0:27:57 (Pop-up)
Andrews Sisters	The Coffee Song "The Coffee Song" by "Andrews Sisters"	1946		0:33:04 (Pop-up)
Nick Lucas	Cup Of Coffee A Sandwich And You	1926		0:35:57 (Pop-up)
Jack Hylton	Cup Of Coffee A Sandwich And You	1925		0:38:59 (Pop-up)
Dick Haymes (+ Gordon Jenkins)	Little White Lies	1947	Dick Haymes Dick Haymes	0:45:13 (Pop-up)
Earl Burtnett	Little White Lies "Little White Lies" by "Earl Burtnett"	1930		0:48:22 (Pop-up)
Ella Fitzgerald	Little White Lies	1939		0:51:13 (Pop-up)
Charles Prince's Band	For the Freedom of the World	1917		0:56:36 (Pop-up)
Charles Daab xylophone	Dance Of The Merry Larks	1911		0:59:52 (Pop-up)
William Warfield	Ol' Man River (from ' Show Boat ')	1951		1:01:54 (Pop-up)
Spike Jones and his City Slickers	River Stay Away From My Door	1955		1:05:37 (Pop-up)
Gertrude Lawrence + Jack Buchanan)	Cup Of Coffee A Sandwich And You	1925		1:09:07 (Pop-up)
Louis Davids	Mina (Ze Zet Zoo'n Lekker Bakkie Koffie)	1930		1:12:12 (Pop-up)
Louis Prima	The Coffee Song "The Coffee Song" by "Louis Prima"	1946		1:14:49 (Pop-up)
Vincent Lopez	Cup Of Coffee A Sandwich And You	1926		1:19:22 (Pop-up)
Rita Corita	Koffie "Koffie" by "Rita Corita"	1957		1:22:02 (Pop-up)
Lucille Bogan (Bessie Jackson)	Coffee Grindin' Blues	1929		1:25:20 (Pop-up)
Kees Pruis	Koffiedik "Koffiedik" by "Kees Pruis"	1940		1:31:56 (Pop-up)
Jack Hylton	Little White Lies "Little White Lies" by "Jack Hylton"	1930		1:35:04 (Pop-up)
A. Aimo ja Dallapé-orkesteri	Kuljen eksyksissä	1937		1:37:41 (Pop-up)
Mantovani	Drinking Song "Drinking Song" by "Mantovani"	1954		1:43:16 (Pop-up)
Tommy Dorsey	Little White Lies "Little White Lies" by "Tommy Dorsey"	1937		1:44:50 (Pop-up)
Rhythm Band	Love Lies "Love Lies" by "Rhythm Band"	1928		1:48:03 (Pop-up)
John McCormack	Come Where My Love Lies Dreaming	1941		1:51:10 (Pop-up)
Betty Johnson	Little White Lies "Little White Lies" by "Betty Johnson"	1957		1:56:59 (Pop-up)

Lots and lots of other audio antiquities on WFMU:

Centennial Songs - The Antique Phonograph Music Program contextually presented by Michael Cumella

The Ragged Phonograph Program with Mike Haar Original ragtime, jazz, and pop music from the first quarter of the 20th century, with historical background on vaudeville-era artists

Thomas Edison's Attic The audio curator at Edison National Historic Site rummages through the archives of the legendary Edison Laboratory of West Orange, New Jersey

The Old Codger: playing 78 RPM records like they're going out of style!

Rare Oldies Radio hosted by Kitschy Mama, featuring lost songs from the 50s & 60s: Retro Obscuro with Kitschy Mama

Music from the 1920s in the January 7, 2020 episode of Continental Subway with David Dichelle

Music and other recordings of Lynda Barry in the june 7, 2020 episode of Canibal Stew with DJ ARB

and you might want to check out the Surface Noise archives with DJ Joe McGasko from 2008 and 2009

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Listener comments!
	10:00am MHLee: Hello, good morning/afternoon
	10:01am Jan Turkenburg: Hi MHLee!
	10:03am johnk77: drinking first cup of cafe caribe dripped thru #2 filter w/added natural bliss;>
	10:04am Jan Turkenburg: Hey Johnk77!
	10:04am johnk77: peace & respect
	10:05am theia: sounds under 64 not allowed, just my speed :)
	10:06am Jan Turkenburg: Hello theia!
	10:10am theia: nothing like that first coffee of the day, the next ones are never so good
	10:11am Jan Turkenburg: true
	10:12am MHLee: I really like Annette Henshaw. Discovered here through a cover of "If You Want the Rainbow"
	10:12am Jan Turkenburg: lovely voice she has
	10:13am MHLee: It says she started recording at 16 and retired at 24 in 34
	10:14am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, that's right according to my info, but she recorded about 200 songs.
	10:17am Jan Turkenburg: so therre should be enough songs for the coming episodes :-)
	10:18am chresti: Morning Jan and over/unders!
	10:18am MHLee: It's amazing how prolific some of these early singers are.
	10:22am Jan Turkenburg: Hi chresti!
	10:25am theia: :)
	10:25am MHLee: Now that's a baritone!
	10:27am Franco Twinkie: Hey Jan. Yesterday I cleaned out the last scraps of my shop that I had for 23 years. Forty, counting my residence next door. The junk removers I contracted were called Aloha.
	10:29am Jan Turkenburg: haha! Hi Franco!
	10:33am Ursula1000: good morning Jan!
	10:33am Jan Turkenburg: Goodmorning Ursula!
	10:37am MHLee: Original singer of "Tiptoe Through the Tulips"
	10:37am Eric Kilkenny: @franco what kind of shop was it?
	10:38am Eric Kilkenny: my piano teacher used to make me play this Cup of Coffe a sandwich and you
	10:38am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, MHLee, I happen to know that, (also) released on Durium Records if I'm not mistaken.
	10:39am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Eric!
	10:40am MHLee: I wasn't sure if I was remembering correctly at first... I've spent time looking for all the reference recordings tiny tim uses.
	10:40am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, I'm curious as well, Franco, but I assumed you probably told a few times when I wasn't paying attention...
	10:43am Rich in Washington: JAN!
	10:45am Jan Turkenburg: RICH!
	10:49am MHLee: this is such a hum-able song
	10:51am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, from the days they still made hummable songs by the dozen, sigh...
	10:52am Eric Kilkenny: you mean a melody? :)
	10:52am MHLee: They say melody has been on the way out in popular music.
	10:52am Eric Kilkenny: do people ever hum the harmony outside of a group?
	10:53am chresti: Yes
	10:55am MHLee: Well, I was a bluegrass musician for several years. A lot of people end up humming the tenor harmony because it's integral to the songs but the melody gets covered.
	10:55am Eric Kilkenny: Melody doesn't need to be as strong in hip hop. It's strength is rhythm and harmony. Melody, Rhythm and Harmony are all equal parts of music to me. Many of these older songs I think put melody in the front because of the recording technology. I.E. Bass and drums etc.. didn't record as well. I think this humable thing is a bias of the technology.
	10:56am chresti: It's all about the hook.
	10:57am Eric Kilkenny: I'd say aside from a general type of music enthusiast. For most listeners out there it's all about the lyrics since the dawn of time.
	10:57am Eric Kilkenny: it has always seemed to me that people, in general, care more about the lyrics to a song than the music
	10:59am MHLee: Rythym is definitely a huge part of it. Billie Eilish's pop is big on rhythm. A lot of the alternative stuff out has movements so the melody isn't consistant.
	11:01am Ursula1000: I was just reading an article from the New York Times called "How Pop Music Lost the Melody" and its from...1994! It seems like this trend fluctuates. I agree with Eric on the technology/recording side of things where bass and drums are more in the forefront than before. The thing that drives me crazy is that chord progression that's SO overused like Journey's Don’t Stop Believing. It's evil head always resides in the Top 10 somewhere! Ugh.
	11:01am MHLee: Any idea why I can drag Charles Prince's head around the screen? It's mildly entertaining.
	11:02am MHLee: @Ursula I assume you've heard the axis of awesome's four chords?
	11:03am Ursula1000: haha was just reading it now @MHLee
	11:05am MHLee: That's such a good song.
	11:06am Ursula1000: Rick Beato has a good YouTube clip on The Four Chords That Killed POP Music.
	11:06am Eric Kilkenny: Yes, exactly! over the use of the same chord progressions is what sucks the most in music. TOTALLY AGREE 1000% about that.
	11:08am Eric Kilkenny: Hah yeh I've watched Rick Beatos stuff
	11:10am Feldpausch: Hi Jan! Hi everybodyyy
	11:10am Jan Turkenburg: Hi Adam!
	11:10am MHLee: I've got a couple I've been watching recently. Bandsplaining and Trash Theory have hit a particular music niche for me.
	11:10am Eric Kilkenny: I do think that if you're writing music, starting with a simple hummable melody is the way to go. And then figure out chords that fit it.
	11:11am MHLee: You see, I'm a poet. I find I can't dream up new melodies. It's always a song I've heard before. I just need to dig to remember forwhere.
	11:12am Jan Turkenburg: By now most of the hummable melodies have already been written...
	11:13am Mr Fab: How wonderful is it to wake up to Spike Jones, ha, g’morning y’all.
	11:14am MHLee: Sing folk music and add a few new lines. I've done that ala Holy Modal Rounders before. Good morning!
	11:14am Jan Turkenburg: Hey Mr. Fab!
	11:23am Jan Turkenburg: THE Dutch coffee song of all times!
	11:24am Jan Turkenburg: I don't think there is anyone here who doesn't know the chorus.
	11:26am MHLee: Why the pseudonym?
	11:27am Jan Turkenburg: Don't know. Just found out it was one last night.
	11:28am Eric Kilkenny: @Jan I like that you're complaining about nobody writing hummable melodies while at the same time saying they have all been written.
	11:28am MHLee: I know sometimes it was a way to get around record contracts: simply pretend you are not Lucille Bogan!
	11:29am Mr Fab: re songwriting: the SOUND is all-important in the recording era. In the old days, everyone used the same instruments more or less, but the 20th made the sound as important as melody, rhythm, etc. Brian Eno used to do needle-drop challenges where he would play a second of classical or jazz and no one could guess the song, but modern pop/rock tracks were instantly recognizable. See, this is what they don't tell you in music school...
	11:32am Jan Turkenburg: true
	11:33am Jan Turkenburg: There are lot of thing they don't teach you in music school...
	11:33am Mr Fab: hence, the development of things like ambient music. No tunes or rhythms needed! Just pure texture.
	11:36am MHLee: RE: Brogan... apparently, she ditched her previous name and adopted some new stylistic leanings after moving to new york
	11:37am Jan Turkenburg: ah thanks MHLee!
	11:39am MHLee: Back to New York... apparently as well... her early work was record on Okeh in New York then she recorded in Chicago then around the 1930s she's back in New York
	11:41am MHLee: I've heard that one (Kuljen eksyksissä) before actually.
	11:42am Eric Kilkenny: @Fab exactly!
	11:43am Eric Kilkenny: you could say our era added a 4th tier to music which is texture/vibe etc... So music is comprised of Melody, Harmony, Rhythm and Texture(vibe?)
	11:44am Mr Fab: Yes, i agree, Eric.
	11:45am Ursula1000: I can listen to you drone about ambient music for days Mr Fab
	11:45am Ursula1000: zing!
	11:45am Jan Turkenburg: Actually classical composers used texture a s well creating new sounds by combining the colours of different instruments. The new thing now is that sometimes we let go of the other parameters.
	11:46am Mr Fab: Ursula, ha!
	11:48am MHLee: Indeed a big thing about classical instead of baroque is the piano allows for new dynamics. A harpsichord is always the same dyanmic.
	11:50am Franco Twinkie: Eric@10:37- It was a cabinet shop. I'm feeling weirdly disoriented right now, but kind of euphoric as well.
	11:55am chresti: Thanks Jan!
	11:57am Ursula1000: Cheers Jan---fab show---Sounds Spectacular next wfmu.org...
	11:57am Feldpausch: Thank you Jan!
	11:57am Mr Fab: you're cat is 20?!
	11:57am Franco Twinkie: Thank you Jan.
	11:58am Jan Turkenburg: Yes, he is the oldest pet I ever had.
	11:58am MHLee: Awesome show.
	9:06am WR: Archive listening. The comments were interesting as well as the music. Thank you Jan for curating the music and hosting the playlist.
	9:39am WR: Nice pairing of Henshaw and Byas.
	10:48am WR: update from Wikipedia for future listeners, regarding Annette Hanshaw's career: "For many years it was believed that Hanshaw was born in 1910 and had begun her recording career shortly before her 16th birthday. However, she was born nine years earlier, making her 25 at the time of her first commercial recording in September 1926. Her nephew, Frank W. Hanshaw III, confirmed that 1901 is the year on her birth certificate."

Sounds Under 64 Not Allowed with Jan Turkenburg: Playlist from May 6, 2021

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