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"I listened yesterday. It's no reflection on you but I could'nt see where you were going or what you were going for. This early seventies thing did'nt get noticed the first time and you talk about friends of like Dealney and Bonnie who had records out like we're supposed to remember who they are. Then you play this long winded free jazz stuff that really grates on my nerves. And that noise without a beat and sounds like someones being pinched. Then you play a reggae song, I think you called it Dub, to what, be cool? You seem to really fetishize the whole folk thing too which is obnoxious to us who don't even care. I liked it when you played that punk song though. I like Joe Belock a lot." (Visit homepage.)

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miles  the pan piper   Favoriting   0:08:12 (Pop-up)
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Jaques Coursil  first fanfare   Favoriting minmal brass  0:19:18 (Pop-up)
carlos nino  pleasewakeupalittlefaster, please   Favoriting   0:22:14 (Pop-up)
dr umezu  yayaya   Favoriting dynamite  0:32:02 (Pop-up)
jazz for kids  jazz for kids   Favoriting   0:35:48 (Pop-up)
jazz for kids  chapter 6: free jazz   Favoriting   0:37:40 (Pop-up)
pharoah sanders & floating points  movement 7 into 5 into 4 (edit)   Favoriting   0:42:37 (Pop-up)
james brandon lewis  fallen flowers   Favoriting   0:47:12 (Pop-up)
Mechanica Clasica  ak deniz   Favoriting   1:01:52 (Pop-up)
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dr lonnie smith & iggy pop  why can't we live together   Favoriting   1:07:38 (Pop-up)
Roy Porter Sound Machine  drums for daryl   Favoriting   1:18:31 (Pop-up)
confusional quartet  swing   Favoriting   1:22:56 (Pop-up)
frankie reyes  alma de la palma + 1   Favoriting   1:30:26 (Pop-up)
gerry weil  the bull's problem   Favoriting   1:32:45 (Pop-up)
gate i.e. michael morley  hijacked a cake   Favoriting   1:40:56 (Pop-up)
vance and suzanne  i can't get along without you (instrumental)   Favoriting   1:49:40 (Pop-up)
freestyle band  the roach approach   Favoriting   1:55:29 (Pop-up)
walt dickerson  tell me all the beautiful things   Favoriting   2:03:55 (Pop-up)
no trend  teen love   Favoriting   2:21:38 (Pop-up)
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Listener comments!

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Handy Haversack:

JA, J'All. Let's dirty it up.
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YETI BOB:

Listen to some music (oh)
Maybe just talking (yeah)
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Phillippe Bastille:

yo
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terminalhipness:

Good morning JA, everyone...
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mace:

howdy
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John Allen:

hey all everyone
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Phillippe Bastille:

Handy! YB!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:03am
Handy Haversack:

Yo, Phillippe!
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YETI BOB:

P(LP)²B!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I was told there would be no math.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05am
mace:

mama mia, i'm ready to go dancing as soon as it's safe
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am
Phillippe Bastille:

No meetings today, client is off, no adult supervision, P(LP)²B is going fishing today!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:07am
Handy Haversack:

Ha, nice, Phillippe! It's 28F here, but I'm going to knock off early and go stand around outside anyway!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:08am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning and RIP Daddy G!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Good morning
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Turn On Tune In Jazz Out
  9:09am
ami ad:

Hello DJ. Hello all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Phillippe Bastille:

yeah, Handy, I may not fish long -- low 40s for a high today. Finally replaced my trusty old reel though, so some casts from the shore/pier are in order. Osprey are pulling some decent sized shad and catfish so something is there
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Rob (Jerzcity):

@KenHP - here you go!
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terminalhipness:

Welcome ami ad!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Rob (Jerzcity):

Mornin', you all
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YETI BOB:

I've been working extra hard the last two weeks to meet a major deadline. I'm taking some vacation starting next week, going to drive out and visit an old friend in Phoenix AZ
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Yes, Rob! Haha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
Phillippe Bastille:

Nice, YB! Did you score that old Benz you were mulling?
  9:11am
Zetti:

I just watched documentary by Errol Morris My Psychedelic Love Story. Great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
mace:

@phillippe this may be a dumb question, but have you eaten catfish? I've heard its quite good but have never had the chance.
  9:12am
Tim Ops:

Mask up, get your shot and stay socially distant (unless you're illegally crossing the US Mexico border)
  9:12am
cherry1998:

happy friday morning 2 all
  9:12am
seedfriend:

Great day to be alive! A dusting of snow, found 3 ticks on me yesterday and the poison ivy I got last week is starting to subside. Springin’
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YETI BOB:

Indeed I did! It has a lot of problems, being an older car, but I hope it makes it to the west coast.
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

Very mixed feelings about Leary. Very much 'a man of parts'—you don't get through West Point and to a research position at Harvard on looks (alone)—but he set serious psychedelic research back decades and had theories of mind and of space migration he promulgated on very little evidence. I see him as a very sincere con-man, that is he always conned himself first, but still a con artist.
Avatar 👻 9:13am
YETI BOB:

@mace: I love fried catfish, one of my favorite meals
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Phillippe Bastille:

mace I have! They are a pain to clean, but tasty. They can pick up the flavor of where they live, though, so they can taste a bit muddy at times (at least that's been my experience). I'm going to try smoking the next batch and make a dip. YB is right, fried is great
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

mace:
I basically hate fish, but I once got some fried catfish I could eat and keep-down, I recall the flavour as mild and the texture very flaky.
Avatar 👻 9:16am
YETI BOB:

((MW)) I know a lot of folks have issues with Leary but he (like John Lennon) is a hero to me. Other "serious" researchers were trying to act as gatekeepers to the psychedelic domain, while Leary was trying to "Unscrew the locks from the doors! Unscrew the doors themselves from their jambs!" (Whitman)
  9:18am
Glistener MW:

<3 amen, Yeti Bob.
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Phillippe Bastille:

YB I'm in the same boat. My son just grabbed me one at auction, 2013 with 125k miles. Crazy how much they depreciate. My 2004 suburban was literally coming apart in my hands (3 of the armrests have come off while closing doors, for example) so I wanted something that would stay intact. The Benz was quite a bit cheaper than a Chevy Tahoe for the same year.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

(Murakami Whywolf)) I'd mostly agree. Leary became another NewAge lecture circuit guy in white shoes. Libertarians... Kind of think of Leary as the Hefner or Disney of LSD. But do also see him as caught up in the whole pageant of the inevitable between Psychedelics & the Establishment. Yerknow it had to be somebody & it was him. His intelligence & observation & articulation can't be disregarded wholesale...
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adampsyche:

celebrating Liddey from the frozen tundra of the catskills
  9:20am
Peter in Tappan:

What a beautiful song that was. Going to dive in further. Thanks john
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am
terminalhipness:

The JAzz is mellow today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am
terminalhipness:

Davis to Stanko to Coursil - nicely done!
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Handy Haversack:

(Cue fifteen minutes of No Trend ...)
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mace:

I think my favorite fish to eat is monk fish.
Also -- Just got my first jab appointment! Huzzah!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:23am
Threemoons:

Morning JA, fellow AMers. TGIF!!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Seafood is the hard part of not eating animals. The rest is easy !
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mace:

This song is really nice. It kind of reminds me of the Caretaker.
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WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

My favorite seafood is oysters. My new pandemic skill was learning how to shuck 'em.
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Phillippe Bastille:

Monkfish are great -- kinda lobsterish. I did not realize how quickly they shrink up if you overcook them a little bit, however -- left me kinda of embarrassed when I baked some for company and wound up with the worlds tiniest portions
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karlward:

jAAAAZZ
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:27am
mace:

Oh no! You could always blame it on the cold ;)
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:28am
Handy Haversack:

Not for me, Rev Rab. I guess I every oncet in a while miss tuna, but nothing else appeals in the slightest. Might even be the only animal flesh I ever miss at all these days.

Congrats, mace! Nice!

Threemoons, karlward, morning out there.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:29am
adampsyche:

oysters are basically plants
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Threemoons:

Oooh, a foodie convo! Fish for Friday! Yes, catfish and carp both can pick up the taste of where they were caught--In Ashkenazi cooking, carp usually has some kind of vinegar or sweet and sour treatment if the fish is being served as-is, or it's part of gefilte fish. FWIW I LOVE fish done right. Monkfish is almost like lobster and needs gentle treatment. If I had to have only one kind of fish, it would be the very small silver butterfish--sustainable, healthy--and very tasty. I just head and gut them, slash each side 3x, shake with seasoned coarse cornmeal, and shallow-fry. Great hot or cold. You eat the bones; very good source of calcium. I like to slap a few of them, cold, onto a roll with slaw or tomatoes and mayo or whatever; to me that's a perfect fish fry.
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mace:

It's crazy how many varieties of mushroom are supposed to mimic some meats, like lobster mushrooms, and a few others that taste like chicken
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PaulRobeson1920:

Whisper in my ear outside the Oyster Bar, Adam
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Phillippe Bastille:

@karlward just listened to your new single. Nice! In the cart!
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Threemoons:

My other fave is very tiny baby octopus. A zillion years ago when I went to law school in DC, back when wooly mammoths still made their stately migration along the frozen Potomac, the big outdoor fish market in DC would have tiny 1" baby octopi, fresh. I would buy a pound for like $2, rinse them at home, put em on ice, and eat them raw dipped in salt.
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YETI BOB:

@HH: Vegetarian is the way to go, I did it for decades. My cardiologist suggested I started eating fish and I took the advice (also I like oysters and sushi a lot, and my wife's fried catfish, so it didn't take to much persuasion)
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melinda:

Nice jazz
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Threemoons:

@YetiBob I am trying to Eat More Plants. And, thankfully, I have access to regeneratively-farmed meat--organ meat from healthy animals is amazingly good for you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am
mace:

The only time I've enjoyed octopus is in takoyaki. The texture is too knuckly for me, but I see the appeal!
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Phillippe Bastille:

@threemoons I had what I refered to as a pet carp two years back. He liked to hang out in the shade next to the pier. Probably a half dozen times I'd be sitting there fishing and I'd look down and he was right beside me, like a faithful dog. No sign of him last year.
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listener:

levels seem good. you could pot up the bed music if you want
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PaulRobeson1920:

Turn on, Tune in, Drop out (of the fake t.V studio prop house) con man pshhhh the man is in space right now! like that Moody Blues song
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:34am
Threemoons:

@Phillipe--wow! Wonder if someone caught them?
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sphere:

hullo. i went vegan for about a year and it was fabulously successful until i started eating vegan prepackaged foods and the the pandemic hooked me on takeout
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am
melinda:

Hank and Tim is still one of the best FMU show intros
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37am
mace:

@sphere I went through the exact same thing. Some day I'll behave again.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Knuckly Texture
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
melinda:

@Yeti was it you who gave me advice on making sauerkraut? After 2 fails I've succeeded and now have tasty kraut daily.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:38am
Threemoons:

When I was a very little girl I would go fishing with my Mom and Dad at either a local lake (rented rowboat) or the local reservoir. At the latter, guys who were Serious Fishermen would be pulling out these ENORMOUS carp--the ranger's lodge/permit station had tons of photos of some 3' long and larger monsters. We never got lucky that way but we did sometimes get some good freshwater striped lake perch that were big enough to bother with.
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Between C.I.A., Wasson, and Clare Booth Luce, psychedelics _started_ as very Establishment, people who had enough of a classical education to know about the Eleusinean Mysteries that were open only to the élite and wanted something similar.

I may judge Leary harshly because I'm a scientist and Leary always claimed to be, and certainly wanted the imprimatur of SCIENCE and the respect that gets, at least in some quarters even as he got more and more slip-shod in his methods, especially over-generalising from his particular seminary/West Point/Harvard case and tilting his pronouncements toward the ones that would get him more young 'tail'. And, of course, there was his fatal flaw, rooted in the most unscientific habit of all: believing the World was the way he wanted it to be.

—which is why I wrote 'harshly' and not 'over-harshly'. I don't dismiss him, but I think he's closer to Joyce or Burroughs than (say) Shulgin.

YETI BOB:
There were too many locks, but I'll use an analogy: official sexual morés in the early 1960s were terrible and terribly restrictive, but I know of at least one California high school in the 1970s where O(10) teachers were having sex with students. In software it is a given that fixing a bug can allow things to proceed far enough to trigger a much worse bug, as I learned when I fixed something 'small' just before shipping and would've wrecked the product if it hadn't been caught.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:39am
luka:

silly rabbit. jazz is for kids.
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Roberto:

This is a tremendous improvement on Cars for Kids.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Oh - Wallace Roney died, 59, Covid-related.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am
Phillippe Bastille:

@YB I'm with you on oysters. I was coming back from FL one year and drove about 100 miles out of my way to visit Apalachicola, FL's oyster farming capital.
@threemoons could be, but there's not a lot of fishing in our river. Not an easy way in, and the Chesapeake is just a couple 100 yards away. Enough to keep me busy with panfish, but the big ones are in the bay
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Threemoons:

@Roberto--"1-8-7-7 karz for kidz...K-A-R-S Kars for Kids....ugh, now I have an earworm
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

I was vegetarian the first trimester of college, which was a terrible time to do that because the food-service vegetables were very badly made and only the starches tasted good. By December I felt willing at least theoretically to kill a cow, it would have been less hypocritical to actually seek-out the opportunity but I was busy not failing _everything_.
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Roberto:

My father was a child actor/performer and that commercial with the kids' band always triggers his PTSD lol
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Threemoons:

@Roberto WOW!
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Handy Haversack:

Karps for for Kidz a very different animal.
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mace:

I did a cover of cars for kids at the beginning of quarantine
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
mace:

thought it would bring the community together like imagine. unsuccessful.
  9:43am
eva:

good morning! enjoying the playfulness.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Spring 1967-7 McNamara calls for complete cessation of bombing north of the 20th Parallel...

Jan 29th - March 31st 1968 TET Offensive
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
Krys O.:

For several years, a group of Facebook friends would meet up for a Chinese banquet in Chinatown NYC. The organizer spoke Chinese and we would have about 10-12 courses of Chinese delicacies like jellyfish, etc. Even though I had eaten things like tripe as a kid, it was still extremely weird. I had a vegan diet about ten years ago. I eat eggs, dairy and fish and occasionally poultry, mostly plant-based though now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
Phillippe Bastille:

@threemoons where I used to live I did some kayak fishing in a reservoir and snagged a pretty large carp that actually pulled the kayak, like some crazy cartoon. Never did boat him, but did see him when he rolled and broke the line
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:44am
Krys O.:

LOL, mace!
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Threemoons:

I actually once donated a totally dead banger of a car to them, btw. When I was in HS/college I went through a series of very cheap American-made (ie generic parts) very body-damaged used cars because it was all I could afford....anyway I had an old klunker whose starter kept consistently dying and they sent around 2 Orthodox guys with a flatbed to get it off of Mom's driveway. Got a $2K tax writeoff.
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Phillippe Bastille:

@Krys O I still like tripe more than I should...
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Threemoons:

@Phillippe wild! Yeah, you would see really big guys breaching the water in the middle of the reservoir; I can believe it.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:45am
Handy Haversack:

Wait, mace, wow, just saw your profile! You work at Dwarven Forge? Are you in Bushwick? How's Stefan doing?
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:45am
Threemoons:

I recently got a hold of some regeneratively farmed cow tongue, pig tongue, turkey liver, and pig kidneys. All amazing. The kidneys take some prep when they are that big--there's a reason why they test human drugs on pigs--but once prepped and given a soak in milk they cook up wonderfully.
Avatar 👻 9:46am
YETI BOB:

MW - re: Leary - thanks for that well-thought out reply. Your points are all valid - I'm a scientist too, at least when I'm wearing that hat, so I'm aware of his flaws - but Leary was an important figure in my development - as were Joyce and Burroughs, and not so much Shulgin, even though of course Shulgin was the better scientist!
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PaulRobeson1920:

As early as 65’ the state department knew that bombing & Defoliation agent purple& orange, would never work on an agricultural country.
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mace:

Stefan is living his life in Seattle, sending weekly updates on his bird feeder. I am in Bushwick!
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Yes:

hello all
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Threemoons:

I keep waiting for the beef sweetbreads to come back in stock. I will ONLY buy organ meat from non-abbitor sources.
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YETI BOB:

MW = I wonder if you've ever ready Dale Pendell? He blends the poetic and scientific in a really wonderful way.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

OK ...the fish is already dead & wonderfully cooked & you offer it - I didn't order it - I'm poor & hungry (likely as not) - I might eat some...
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Krys O.:

I've mentioned before that Timothy Leary spoke at Upsala College when I was a student. A group of us had dinner with him afterward at a restaurant in Bloomfield. He drank tequila and 7-Up.
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PaulRobeson1920:

McNamara called for a stop to the bombing in 67’ and it went on for 7 more years. Man
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:48am
Threemoons:

Fun fact: I grew up eating chopped liver. At Thanksgiving, the liver in the roasting pan was a treat. Then I took a semester of FDA law as an elective and found out that ONE turkey liver has an entire clinical dose of DES in it. So that was it for frequent chopped liver in our house; now it's a less than once a year thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:48am
mace:

Okay explain tongue to me. What's it taste like? What's the texture? How do you season and prepare it?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:48am
Phillippe Bastille:

growing up my grandmother owned a neighborhood grocer and we would get the less-than-prime cow and chicken parts that she had trouble selling. tripe, tongue, brains, gizzards, hearts
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listener:

thank you John for playing the new Sanders/Floating Points - been meaning to hear this and learning what all the fuss is about.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:48am
Barney Grubbs:

Pharoah still doing it
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Krys O.:

My brother has an aversion to fish because of trauma he experienced fishing with some friends as a kid in the 60s. He'll eat shrimp though.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Think we're all on the same page w/ Leary more or less. I guess somebody had to illustrate being the public face of LSD advocacy...
Owsley had a period he ate only meat fanatically...
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YETI BOB:

when i was a kid my dad brought a cow tongue home from the butcher one time. it was HUGE. the whole family including mom was horrified, nobody would go near it, he cooked it and ate it himself.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am
mace:

Oh shit this song is amazing
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Handy Haversack:

Whoa, mace, this is what two years without GaryCon will do -- I had no idea!

I was going to make a "no longer flail[ing]" joke earlier when you said you got your vaccine appt. but thought it might be too obscure -- now I wish I had done so!

I have always loved that DF is based in Brooklyn, where no one has an apt. large enough to use the product! But we gamed at Stefan's a few times and always had a couple of beers together at GaryCon. I was at the Kickstarter-end party like ... six years back? Very cool to see a DF employee here! We're pretty "theater of the mind" in my game (again, partly for space reasons), but I admire the product!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am
Krys O.:

Tongue is very salty and requires many boiling sessions to remove the salt. It's tougher than ham, but similar. I don't eat pork any longer.
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mace:

@yeti I'm laughing at the image
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

Phillippe Bastille:

I believe I've heard your childhood varietals called 'butcher‘s blend'. ('Butler‘s blend' is a mix of whatever teas you've got hanging around, o.k. usually if iced.)

I really like dim sum's book tripe dish (ba yeh, 'hundred leaves') made with a lot of ginger and usually some chilis and sometimes like book tripe with curry and taro or potato.

I've had honeycomb tripe that I just could not eat, and that's rare for me, though chitlins (a misspelling, I think) also push it. Foot's the same for me.

I do think that if you're going to have a cow killed you ought to eat as much of it as you can.
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Krys O.:

@Yeti Bob: My dad was that way with eels. He'd catch them i the Byram River fishing with our surrogate grandfather. I saw him skin them and had no interest in eating them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:52am
Krys O.:

in the Byram River.
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mace:

@Handy well next time the conventions are open and I'm attending, you'll have to introduce yourself!

Question - Is Handy short for Handrew?
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YETI BOB:

KrysO: Shades of "The Tin Drum"
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Threemoons:

@Mace Tongue: To prep: Rinse and boil in saltwater seasoned with a handful of peppercorns and a few bay leaves. Simmer until carving fork goes into the root end easily. When done, while still hot, used a clean lint free towel or similar to hold the hot tongue and cut/peel off the tough outer skin. Comes right off. Slice and serve hot or cold. Does NOT taste salty when cooled off. Usually served with onions and mustard. Delicious. Some butchers also sell smoked tongue which is amazing.
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Phillippe Bastille:

If I remember correctly the tongue was really tough, And yeah, the hairs were still on it so yikes if you aren't ready for that vision. I could never eat the brains though. My dad lived brains and eggs for breakfast. No thanks
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Threemoons:

Tongue doesn't have to be tough. The smoked ones may be salty; haven't found one in years. Grew up eating the fresh ones
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Phillippe Bastille:

@Murakami Whywolf I like the honeycomb tripe, battered in cornmeal and fried
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mace:

EEL!?! Eel are edible!? I have to try that.
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Handy Haversack:

@mace, no, ha, it's from a magic item in Unearthed Arcana! I picked it as a screen name in like 2002 for Dragons Foot, and it has stuck with me ever since!

BTW: I'm in Greenpoint! I first met Stefan at GC ... VI? because he was with Wandy, who was wearing a BUSHWICK DETH hat, and my buddy J and I were all: "You from Brooklyn?" And they were all: "*You* from Brooklyn?!" Then we drank many beers.
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Threemoons:

My Nordic Dad, may he rest in peace, used to sometimes go eel fishing at night with a flashlight--they come right up. Locals would home-hot-smoke them using water-soaked copies of the Sunday Times. Home smoked eel is delicious cold; better than whitefish.
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Krys O.:

From kindergarten to 5th grade, we lived down the street from a butcher and I had to walk past on my way to school. They'd have chickens displayed in the windows with their feet touching the panes. I also remember the rendering truck would come by to pick up bones. This was also the time of DDT trucks driving through the neighborhood.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Do cows have uvula like humans do? You think that would be a tender delicacy.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I thot the British live on eels...
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mace:

@threemoons fascinating. I'll have to get some when I see it's available. I tried frog for the first time this past year and that was salty, which I maybe should have guessed. It was from a street vendor, though, so maybe if it's prepared well it isn't so?
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Threemoons:

@Ken the place where I get my regeneratively-farmed meat sells dried cow nose strips as doggo treats.
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mace:

@handy sounds just like Stefan
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Krys O.:

The only time I had escargot was in Paris. I think it ruined me from having the dish anywhere else. It was soooo good and garlicky.
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Threemoons:

@Mace no meat on its own is inherently "salty"--it's the prep. I've had both Euro style frogs and several sizes/grades of Chinese style frogs; all were different....
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john_zilla:

loving the show in south brooklyn! great jaZz
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YETI BOB:

@Mace: Go to a Japanese restaurant and order Unagi, it's amazing
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Abattoir Jazz. Well it is Good Friday...
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Barney Grubbs:

tripe is great with mala flavors in cold sichuanese dishes (eg, thewoksoflife.com...)
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Threemoons:

@YetiBob YES to unagi and anago....freshwater and sea eel...
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mace:

@yeti okay! I'll try anything once. Maybe even twice.
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Roberto:

[vegan quietly sees himself out of the chat room]
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Krys O.:

I must confess that we ate pig's ears back in the day, as well as pig's feet. :(
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Threemoons:

@Barney thanks for the recipe; may do that sauce/treatment with my next bunch of off cuts.
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Handy Haversack:

@mace, we also played Aliens the strategy miniatures board game while drinking those beers, which should add to the verisimilitude. Anyway, great to meet you here.
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Krys O.:

My dad told us that in desperate times in 1920s Poland, his family had to eat horse. :'''(
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Barney Grubbs:

one time long ago in high school, I was feeling brave at the taco truck & ordered lengua & sesos tacos. They made the tongue taco first—chunk of tongue pulled out & chopped fine—looked good. for the next one they pulled out what looked like half a calf brain, sliced off a chunk, and chopped it up. It was pretty gnarly, but not too bad with the extra-hot salsa.
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Phillippe Bastille:

Took me years to want to eat eels. When I was a wee lad, several of my uncles would go fishing for eels at a place called Bloody Pond. I remember once my grandmother was cooking them in a big pot and she scooped a bunch of them out with a ladle to check their doneness. It looked like a bunch of snakes coming out of a pot of boiling water, draped over the handle and dangling over the water. I absolutely had nightmares after that.
  10:02am
Bob in DC:

Fred Frith on which record?
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eºIºk:

Did 91.1 just go down? 91.9 sounds good though.
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Barney Grubbs:

@three moons: It’s really nice in hot pot too.
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terminalhipness:

@Bob in DC - Dr Umezu
  10:03am
ami ad:

91.1 is down here.
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Snortley:

Yes; 91.1 is dead.
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John Allen:

Bob in DC Fred Firth on this record: www.discogs.com...
  10:04am
Bob in DC:

Thank you
  10:04am
Southie Samuel:

I’m a weed gummie
  10:06am
Exluddite:

Anyone else hearing Mario Bros. ?
  10:07am
ami ad:

Getting a reggae show on 91.9fm.
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mace:

alright guys, I gotta peace out. enjoy your fish and your weekends
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Handy Haversack:

Later on, mace.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Cause I'm Not Right, Iggy.
  10:12am
Exluddite:

I'm in LIC Queens right now, and that station bleeds in whenever I'm here.
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Threemoons:

Listening online; stream is fine on my rig.
  10:18am
queems:

tbh i thought the weird static was just a song until i checked the stream
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YETI BOB:

my cat likes this track, she is staring at the speakers, following the stereo panning!
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Joe McG:

We're on the case to try to figure out what's up!
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YETI BOB:

i'm clicky-starring the song for her
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Phillippe Bastille:

Maybe Bryce came on early?
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Matt Warwick:

Hey everybody! 91.1 antenna is getting repaired, so it's gonna be out for awhile.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Cat Panning & the Knuckly Textures
- Good Friday @ the Jazz Abattoir
Bring Your Own
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G:

Oh man, antenna trouble!!!
  10:25am
vixo:

Roy Porter Sound Machine!!!! Outstanding!!!
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Rob (Jerzcity):

@ami ad - I think you call it Dub. To be cool.
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Handy Haversack:

Oh no! And we're driving to Jersey today!
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sphere:

@ Handy Haversack: Better warm up your psychic senses!
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YETI BOB:

Hi G! I'm always happy to see your avatar pop up.
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YETI BOB:

@HH: Can you use the phone app?
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Phillippe Bastille:

@Handy I'm sure there's an NPR station playing the Brandenburg Concertos for Bagpipes you could tune in to.
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sphere:

WFMU should end the bagpipes protocol and replace it with a hurdy-gurdy protocol.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Solar flares
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G:

Hi, Yeti -- ditto. But I don't chat all that much when busy with online work haha...
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Phillippe Bastille:

I like how you think, sphere
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YETI BOB:

@G: I recently came across this amazing photo of Louis Coulon posing with a cat and I thought you might appreciate it - it reminded me of your photo - e4p7c9i3.stackpathcdn.com...
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sphere:

thank you, Philippe. you're a pretty fine thinker yourself. :)
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YETI BOB:

@G - Understood. I finished a big piece of work yesterday, met the end-of-month deadline, and I'm kicking back today. Good luck being productive!
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Phillippe Bastille:

My daily brain training app thinks I'm slightly above average, sphere. 1027 where 1000 is the median. I'll take that any day.
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Handy Haversack:

@YB: I don't even have a cell phone, let alone a spy phone!
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sphere:

hmm, never tried brain training myself. i'll look into it. but you seem above average to me!
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Phillippe Bastille:

@Handy don't 20 year old Corollas come with wifi?
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Phillippe Bastille:

@sphere yes, slightly so apparently
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queems:

@handy what time are you planning on arriving?
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eºIºk:

Ugh, I hate that the 91.9 reggae pirate “In the Street” reaches all the way to LIC. They’re probably in Flatbush or PLG so that’s a pretty strong pirate. Hope the FCC talks to their landlord someday.
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YETI BOB:

@HH: I should have guessed. I resisted for a long time too, but eventually broke down. It is nice being able to take WFMU in the car, and be able to keep in touch with work colleagues when I'm not home (it gives me freedom to roam around during the day), but it's definitely the Devil's bargain and you are on the right side, so stay golden!
  10:42am
ami ad:

It's pretty bad reggae on that station, not cool dub at all.
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YETI BOB:

@HH: What I really would prefer is a 100% Linux/open-source mobile phone so I can have the advantages without the spying/ads etc. Of course I have blockers but I'd prefer to have complete control over the software on my phone, like I do with my laptop. Can be done but takes more time/energy than I've been willing to invest.
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Krys O.:

I figure that if anyone would spy on my cell phone activity, they'd have to be inured to the boredom.
  10:46am
Glistener MW:

When no one was looking, Lex Luthor hijacked forty cakes. He hijacked 40 cakes. That’s as many as four tens. And that’s terrible.
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Jason from Houston:

*+:꒰◍• ᴗ •◍꒱:+*
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Hey JA and everyone. Digging t he Michael Morely Spyro Gyra vibes.
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Jason from Houston:

Good greetings, good people!
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YETI BOB:

The Broomster! Making a clean sweep of things! Hi Jason!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Krys O I reckon the quantum computers will cope well with tedium. In record time...
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Handy Haversack:

@queems, right around 2, I'd think.
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Handy Haversack:

Hey, Jason!
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YETI BOB:

@HH: How about an extra-long Ethernet cable?
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Phillippe Bastille:

Some of the targeted ads you get on your phone can be really helpful, though. I had read an article about a small biotech (Evofem) that is developing a vaccine for women for STDs, and later had an ad pop up for one of the birth control devices they sell. I'm a soon-to-be 64 year old man.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Krys O - hahaha. Me too. I've thought before that if a human looked into my internet habits they'd think that I'm a real freak. "This guy just looks at some weird station and crappy music that no one in their right mind would listen to. How are we suppose to sell this doofus's info?"
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Krys O.:

Would computers envy fallibility?
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YETI BOB:

see also: "Youtube thinks I'm gay"
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yes if faceborg is tapping my laptop mic, they're FMUvians by now...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...too late for G. Gordan Liddy.
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Jason from Houston:

I should sweep outside, actually. Live Oak pollen is still dropping.
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Phillippe Bastille:

anyone forget to mute FMU before hopping on a zoom call yet? Speaking from experience here
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Jason from Houston:

Hey there, Handy!
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Krys O.:

I'd be proud if YouTube thought I was gay.

My dad used to get censored letters from his sister in Belarus in the 70s. We assumed that she was criticizing the government.
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John Allen:

the ol jeffrey toobin fmu mistake
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YETI BOB:

Max Roach approach?
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eºIºk:

@ami, most of the FM pirates around here have really disappointing taste in music. There used to be an occasionally slightly funny Hasidic pirate called J-Root but they seem to have gone legal now, i.e. online only. And once I heard one Caribbean church pirate invite people to call in and sing gospel over the air which was kind of cool. I wonder if I still have a recording of that somewhere. But mostly it’s crap.
  11:01am
franx:

sick clarie
  11:02am
McGroovey:

I avoid any WFMU/no-mute issues by not calling anyone ever.
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Phillippe Bastille:

YouTube thinks I love Courtney Barnett. No matter what artist mix I select, I get a Courtney Barnett song about half a dozen songs in. Angel Olsen? Pearl Harbor and the Explosions? 10CC? All roads lead to Courtney Barnett. Pick a female Australian singer like Alex Lahey or Julia Jacklin and it's maybe 4 songs in...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Oh geez, Wallace Roney died a year ago. Derr. Sorry...
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McGroovey:

@philippe I avoid that problem by only listening to music on WFMU (and my own records). Though I do like Courtney Barnett, so your particular problem wouldn't be a problem for me, if I ever used Spotify, which I never have, because WFMU.
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Phillippe Bastille:

@McGroovey agreed. I'd say 95% of my music listening is fmu. Some days though you just gotta hear a buncha stuff from a favorite artist.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Phillippe Bastille - yeah, like when the WiFi I steal goes Off again. (Speaking of Pirates!) With FMU 24/7 & more than one Stream awlready - can't even get to the Podcasts I'd otherwise consider essential...
  11:17am
ami ad:

@eºIºk: Yea, worked for a company that parked the trucks in East Flatbush, I remember once we crossed Empire Blvd. the pirate radios took over, mostly nothing good.
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YETI BOB:

FMU in the morning, records at night, a little quiet time in the afternoon
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YETI BOB:

Except for Hearty White on Thursday nights, and Billy Jam sometimes. (Not saying there aren't other good programs in the afternoon/evening, this is just how I do it)
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Jason from Houston:

AHHHHHHHHHH
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Jason from Houston:

♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡
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Handy Haversack:

There it is!
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listener:

teen love will get you every time
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Roberto:

This makes me sad all over again that I never had a teen romance.
  11:26am
Marcel M:

so THIS is the shape of jazz to come.
  11:26am
larry of lackawack:

During the Marathon you said a car was stopping in front of the barn. It's the Barn quilt.
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Niall:

Jeez, I feel like I'm reliving my late teens with this show. #angular
  11:27am
ami ad:

Gonna go Downtown, BK.
  11:27am
ami ad:

Thank you, DJ. Crew. Drive safe.
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Handy Haversack:

And that's what happens when you listen to commercial radio, kids. You have been warned.

Good luck, ami ad!
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Roberto:

Wait never mind sounds like I didn't miss out on much.
  11:28am
sparky:

Yess!! No Trend Teen Love is my jam!!
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listener:

to be decapitated in an explosion sounds hardcore
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tim from champaign (now washington):

I love lysergic punk.
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eºIºk:

@Roberto, both of yr comments are exactly what I was thinking.
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YETI BOB:

is that what this is, tim? acid never made me so cynical and jaded - it made me want to jump around and sing happy songs
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Marco Esquandolas:

AN - GU - LAR
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Jason from Houston:

WHAAAAAAAAAAA
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Probly not what Olivia meant by 'Let's Get Physical' tho' car wrecks are indeed dramatic Physics. Warhol presents many graphic wrecks as well. & that's Pop.
I wish I had FMU like this as a teen on acid.
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Jason from Houston:

♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡
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karlward:

Is this Fugazi? Or is this jazz?
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YETI BOB:

slint, now here's something i can get behind
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Jason from Houston:

I need to pack my laptop for a trip but I want to listen to the rest of this show through my stereo. :/
  11:35am
larry of lackawack:

Just donated a car. It's nickname is Nightmare.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Yeti - Ha! Some ride the bummer vibes though. No Trend, Fang et al.
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Jason from Houston:

Okay. Popping off to listen in the car. All the love to y'all from sunny, ugly Houston.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

I always forget how much I like Slint. I find most of the Slint sounding bands that followed to be pretty tedious and let it taint my thoughts about Slint.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

To paraphrase The American Dream Dusty Rhodes as an announcer: "It's a jazz filibusta!"
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Marco Esquandolas:

I agree Tim. Although I do like Rodan just as much as Slint I think.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Marco - Rodan was really great! A favorite show of mine with Rodan, '68 Comeback and Rocket From The Crypt in February 1994.
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Barney Grubbs:

Hurray for Grubbses (no relation)
  11:42am
DannyThe Manny:

I can almost hear on fm!
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Handy Haversack:

Have fun, Jason!
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Marco Esquandolas:

That's awesome Tim! I never got to see them live unfortunately.
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Handy Haversack:

Nice, tim!

We thought we were going to have to go sit in the car for ASP and not be able to listen to FMU for an hour and half -- but it's Good Friday! Finally, religion works for *me*!
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YETI BOB:

@tim - yeah i get you. i guess that "ride the bummer" vibe is just not my thing at all, i feel like "teen love" is like a joke i heard already and i didn't laugh the first time. everything else on this show has been great and of course it wouldn't be WFMU if there wasn't some noise-punk mixed in with the jazz, who cares if i like it or not?
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Marco - Rodan was a little too weird for most of the crowd but I was mighty happy . Rodan opened and then they were up front dancing like loons for '68 Comeback which really kicked off the fun.
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Marco Esquandolas:

Damn, that sounds like a good time
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Yeti - Have you read Jesse Jarnow's Heads book? I just finished it. It's definitely one of my favorite books I've read recently.
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YETI BOB:

@Tim: I'll check it out. I hope it's better than "Monolithic Undertow" by Harry Sword which turned out to be a massive disappointment. (I'll send an almost-new hardcover copy of this book to anyone who wants it)
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Handy Haversack:

Did it, YB? That's too bad! What were the problems?

Are we back?
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ChukAmok:

That Rodan/RFTC show sounds epic. Damn do I miss live music.
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Handy Haversack:

Stream is back.
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Krys O.:

Thanks, JA!
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tim from champaign (now washington):

I haven't read Monolithic Undertow but I guarantee it will be an enjoyable and insightful read.
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Yes:

thank yous
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Phillippe Bastille:

Thanks Mr. Allen
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YETI BOB:

right on Tim, I trust Jesse Jarnow and I trust you :)
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terminalhipness:

Thank you John Allen, for another great show!
Best to all of you!!
  11:58am
Zetti:

Thank you.
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Handy Haversack:

Damn, thanks, JA, Matt, all!

Be well, JAZZ pals.
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Niall:

For a moment I thought this was an interview with Eno, but not I'm guessing it's Derek Jarman... and so I thought this Novaga track was COIL. Ha!
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Niall:

Wrong in almost every way!
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Marco Esquandolas:

THANK YOU JA
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YETI BOB:

@HH: The book could have used some editing, he repeats himself a lot, there too much hagiography (well-worn legends about the Velvet Underground, etc), doesn't seem to be a lot of insight.
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listener:

thanks for the great show!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

TY DJ JA !
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YETI BOB:

bye y'all
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