WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from February 17, 2021

Listener comments!
	10:01pm Gary: Saaaaaammmmmm!
	10:02pm chresti: Hi Sam and frank horse listeners!
	10:03pm TDK60: Hi Sam.
	10:05pm StringOFperils: Sam.
	10:05pm Sam Segal: Gary, Chresti, TDK, and String! Thank you for entering the Horse Zone tonight.
	🥁 10:09pm WR: coming along with y'all, but I'll walk. didn't know about the Montego Joe recording with Corea & Graves until this week.
	10:16pm Sam Segal: Trot alongside us, WR! Yeah, it's a fun album. I didn't think a whole of it when I picked it up in the shop, but now it has taken on some added significance in my collection.
	10:16pm wmbogart: Hello stablemates! I somehow didn't know about that Montego Joe recording either.
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Nice to see you, wmbogart!
	10:18pm coelacanth∅: hello Sam and horse thieves
	10:18pm Sam Segal: Another fun fact about Montego Joe: he played drums on Babatunde Olatunji's legendary "Drums of Passion" album.
	10:19pm Sam Segal: Who you callin' a horse thief, Coel?!
	10:20pm TDK60: I used to dig fusion when I was a young'un, didn't care about the discerners of corn...yet. Then I did; then I didn't.
	10:20pm coelacanth∅: y'all! you lose your own horse and start lookin' at mine!
	10:21pm Sam Segal: @TDK, I think I'm following a similar trajectory in my relationship to corn.
	10:23pm chresti: So, where is that photo taken?
	10:25pm chresti: That is a nice looking horse with horns, coel.
	10:27pm Sam Segal: @Chresti, off the island of Maui in 1973.
	10:28pm TDK60: Huh, Maui. Sam, hasn't '73 turned up before here?
	10:29pm chresti: Thanks Sam.
	10:33pm Sam Segal: Probably has, TDK. Most of the images I use are from roughly 1973-1977. They are all taken as part of the EPA's Documerica project, which had a bunch of freelance photographers go out and document environmental conditions across the country.
	10:33pm TDK60: That photo of the music wall in Minneapolis was a day in '73, weren't other photos?
	10:37pm TDK60: Ah, Documerica. That's a place to find some. Thanks.
	10:37pm Sam Segal: Can't remember any specific '73 images recently, but I am sure several of them have been over the years. I've been using this archive for my photos since the show started, pretty much.
	10:38pm Sam Segal: This is where I draw from: www.archives.gov...
	🥁 10:48pm WR: @Sam @10:16, understandable that you may have been underwhelmed when first listening to the Montego Joe recording. It is not like they are trying to blend in the innovations they are soon to be doing with Ayler & Davis. They were on M. Joe's gig doing his thing.
	10:50pm rw: Hello!
	10:51pm Sam Segal: Welcome, rw!
	10:52pm coelacanth∅: hey rw
	10:53pm coelacanth∅: - watch out for Sam's horse, it's a thief
	10:54pm rw: coel! Thief horse, huh?
	🥁 10:54pm WR: Here are some phone snapshots I took of Milford Graves' cyber kinetic sculptures at Queens Museum of Art in Jan. 2019. www.flickr.com...
	10:58pm wmbogart: Wow, thank you for sharing those WR! Heard about the exhibit at the time but I'm way over on the other side of the country, I would've loved to see this in person.
	11:00pm Sam Segal: Thanks, WR! Kicking myself for not attending this exhibition.
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: yeah rw one day you'll get home with a bag of yummy apples and hay, your lovely mare and Sam's horse-thief are nowhere in sight
	11:04pm coelacanth∅: this year has been like 2016 so far, with so many musician deaths
	11:04pm wmbogart: I really hope some of his LabVIEW heartbeat recordings get released someday. I see they had an excerpt as part of the exhibit but I'm not aware of any public release (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong!)
	🥁 11:05pm WR: an exhibit of similar works is currently in Baltimore I think and will then be at a NYC gallery this summer.
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: WR Thanks for sharing those pix
	11:13pm Sam Segal: I still haven't seen the documentary that came out about Milford Graves a few years ago, but I've heard great things.
	11:18pm chresti: I'm here, some shifty horse was showing me pictures.
	11:18pm wmbogart: If you find the time, I really recommend it. I've watched it a few times since they put it out. He had a lot to teach us, even beyond the incredible musicianship.
	11:20pm Sam Segal: I definitely will. I want to learn more about his martial arts practice, which I assume gets covered, given the title of the doc ("Full Mantis").
	11:26pm Dean: Saw Graves with John Zorn at Vision Festival. Saw Corea with Return to Forever at the Music Center in LA. Can't quite get my head around the fact that we're losing these people.
	11:28pm wmbogart: It does @Sam. I don't know the first thing about martial arts personally, but I think you'll enjoy it if you do.
	11:30pm Sam Segal: Agreed, Dean. When I've seen a musician play live, the loss always feels deeper to me.
	11:33pm chresti: That looks like a nice show, thanks WR!
	11:37pm Doug Schulkind: Mucho Milford hooray! Thanks, Mr. Segal! I see you started off the show with Montego Joe. Did you know he had a show on WFMU?! His last year was my first at the station, 1987.
	🥁 11:37pm WR: glad to share. The sculptures are just a facet of his investigation into heartbeat and body electropulse energy.
	11:39pm doctorjazz: Hi all! Looks like I have to catch this show in the archived! Here to take it out!
	11:43pm Sam Segal: Wow, Doug, I had no idea! Did he go by the name Montego Joe on air? Or his given name Roger Sanders?
	11:43pm Sam Segal: Doc! Glad you could make it for the tail end live.
	11:44pm Dean: Interviewed Lewis's spouse, the marvelously eccentric Miya Masaoka, at my apartment near Berkeley many years ago. Later, Lewis assigned a paper I published for one of his classes at Columbia.
	11:45pm coelacanth∅: i remember Montego Joe's fmu show. i never considered it was the same Montego Joe!
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: greetings doc
	11:47pm Sam Segal: @Dean, I am not familiar with Miya Masaoka's work. Just scanned her wiki page and it looks really interesting. Will have to investigate further.
	11:47pm doctorjazz: Hey, Coel, Dean, all toy Equestrians!
	11:49pm Dean: Miya has few boundaries, musically speaking. A buddy of mine made a movie that briefly featured her, the content deriving from the interview in my apartment. I really enjoy her Monk tribute with Cyrille and Workman. Saw her in W. Hollywood many years ago.
	11:50pm wmbogart: @Dean Wow!!! I'm in an apartment near Berkeley right now, but I've never done anything nearly as cool. Is your interview published anywhere?
	11:51pm Doug Schulkind: He went by Montego Joe. I can’t say I remember much about his show.
	11:53pm Dean: @wmbogart, This is one of those amazing circumstances that proves there are no mere coincidences. I'm sure you're listening for many of the same reasons I listen. Thus, we self-select WFMU and Berkeley or environs! Paper is here: http://www.improvcommunity.ca/sites/improvcommunity.ca/files/research_collection/407/Improvisation_Urban_Planning.pdf
	11:56pm fun fact∅: Montego Joe played percussion on cat scratch fever
	11:58pm Sam Segal: Wow, that is a fun fact, Fun Fact!
	11:59pm wmbogart: Wow @Dean, this is a super interesting intersection. I'm going to sit down and read through it tonight. I've always felt that Peter Brotzmann is woefully undercited in urban theory.
	12:01am Sam Segal: Going to let this piece finish. Feel free to stick with me for another 5 mins.
	12:01am Dean: The paper was published in the first online issue of an ongoing journal out of Guelph. You might find the connections you seek there.
	12:02am Dean: George Lewis wrote the introductory piece for that first issue, by the way.
	12:06am wmbogart: And I see Pauline Oliveros was in that issue too! Feels like Mills is always represented one way or another.
	12:07am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! take care stablemates
	12:07am doctorjazz: Thanks, Sam (will catch the rest of the show tomorrow-that's why God pot a space between Testify andv Explorers Room)
	🥁 12:07am WR: out of the shower just in time to say thank you Sam! Laters all.
	12:08am chresti: Thanks Sam! Goodnight!
	🥁 8:30am DL in LA: Stellar Chick Corea set! Thanks Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from February 17, 2021

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February 17, 2021: The Mountain, A Thieving Horse

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Montego Joe	Too Much Saki "Too Much Saki" by "Montego Joe"	¡Arriba! Con Montego Joe	Prestige	0:00:00 (Pop-up)

Return to Forever	Beyond The Seventh Galaxy	Where Have I Known You Before	Polydor	0:14:41 (Pop-up)
Chick Corea / Dave Holland / Barry Altschul	A.R.C.	A.R.C.	ECM	0:17:50 (Pop-up)
Chick Corea	This "This" by "Chick Corea"	The Complete "Is" Sessions	Blue Note	0:23:26 (Pop-up)
Chick Corea / Miroslav Vitous / Roy Haynes	Trio Improvisation 4	Trio Music Live in Europe	ECM	0:31:44 (Pop-up)
Return to Forever	So Long Mickey Mouse	Musicmagic	Columbia	0:36:09 (Pop-up)
Chick Corea	The Gardens "The Gardens" by "Chick Corea"	My Spanish Heart	Polydor	0:42:16 (Pop-up)
Chick Corea	Day Danse "Day Danse" by "Chick Corea"	My Spanish Heart	Polydor	0:43:58 (Pop-up)
Chick Corea	Where Are You Now? (Picture 4)	Piano Improvisations Vol. 1	ECM	0:48:22 (Pop-up)

Paul Bley Quintet	Around Again "Around Again" by "Paul Bley Quintet"	Barrage	ESP-Disk	0:59:07 (Pop-up)
New York Art Quartet	No. 6 "No. 6" by "New York Art Quartet"	Mohawk	Fontana	1:03:06 (Pop-up)
Milford Graves	bi "bi" by "Milford Graves"	Babi Music	Corbett vs. Dempsey	1:09:41 (Pop-up)
Anthony Braxton / Milford Graves / William Parker	Fifth Meeting	Beyond Quantum	Tzadik	1:13:31 (Pop-up)
Andrew Cyrille & Milford Graves	Call and Response	Dialogue of the Drums	IPS	1:18:37 (Pop-up)
Milford Graves	Territorial Moods "Territorial Moods" by "Milford Graves"	Stories	Tzadik	1:24:04 (Pop-up)
New York Art Quartet	Visiting Ogun	35th Reunion	DIW	1:27:37 (Pop-up)
Milford Graves	Transcendence "Transcendence" by "Milford Graves"	Grand Unification	Tzadik	1:31:49 (Pop-up)

George Lewis	Seismologic "Seismologic" by "George Lewis"	The Recombinant Trilogy	New Focus	1:43:15 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:01pm Gary: Saaaaaammmmmm!
	10:02pm chresti: Hi Sam and frank horse listeners!
	10:03pm TDK60: Hi Sam.
	10:05pm StringOFperils: Sam.
	10:05pm Sam Segal: Gary, Chresti, TDK, and String! Thank you for entering the Horse Zone tonight.
	🥁 10:09pm WR: coming along with y'all, but I'll walk. didn't know about the Montego Joe recording with Corea & Graves until this week.
	10:16pm Sam Segal: Trot alongside us, WR! Yeah, it's a fun album. I didn't think a whole of it when I picked it up in the shop, but now it has taken on some added significance in my collection.
	10:16pm wmbogart: Hello stablemates! I somehow didn't know about that Montego Joe recording either.
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Nice to see you, wmbogart!
	10:18pm coelacanth∅: hello Sam and horse thieves
	10:18pm Sam Segal: Another fun fact about Montego Joe: he played drums on Babatunde Olatunji's legendary "Drums of Passion" album.
	10:19pm Sam Segal: Who you callin' a horse thief, Coel?!
	10:20pm TDK60: I used to dig fusion when I was a young'un, didn't care about the discerners of corn...yet. Then I did; then I didn't.
	10:20pm coelacanth∅: y'all! you lose your own horse and start lookin' at mine!
	10:21pm Sam Segal: @TDK, I think I'm following a similar trajectory in my relationship to corn.
	10:23pm chresti: So, where is that photo taken?
	10:25pm chresti: That is a nice looking horse with horns, coel.
	10:27pm Sam Segal: @Chresti, off the island of Maui in 1973.
	10:28pm TDK60: Huh, Maui. Sam, hasn't '73 turned up before here?
	10:29pm chresti: Thanks Sam.
	10:33pm Sam Segal: Probably has, TDK. Most of the images I use are from roughly 1973-1977. They are all taken as part of the EPA's Documerica project, which had a bunch of freelance photographers go out and document environmental conditions across the country.
	10:33pm TDK60: That photo of the music wall in Minneapolis was a day in '73, weren't other photos?
	10:37pm TDK60: Ah, Documerica. That's a place to find some. Thanks.
	10:37pm Sam Segal: Can't remember any specific '73 images recently, but I am sure several of them have been over the years. I've been using this archive for my photos since the show started, pretty much.
	10:38pm Sam Segal: This is where I draw from: www.archives.gov...
	🥁 10:48pm WR: @Sam @10:16, understandable that you may have been underwhelmed when first listening to the Montego Joe recording. It is not like they are trying to blend in the innovations they are soon to be doing with Ayler & Davis. They were on M. Joe's gig doing his thing.
	10:50pm rw: Hello!
	10:51pm Sam Segal: Welcome, rw!
	10:52pm coelacanth∅: hey rw
	10:53pm coelacanth∅: - watch out for Sam's horse, it's a thief
	10:54pm rw: coel! Thief horse, huh?
	🥁 10:54pm WR: Here are some phone snapshots I took of Milford Graves' cyber kinetic sculptures at Queens Museum of Art in Jan. 2019. www.flickr.com...
	10:58pm wmbogart: Wow, thank you for sharing those WR! Heard about the exhibit at the time but I'm way over on the other side of the country, I would've loved to see this in person.
	11:00pm Sam Segal: Thanks, WR! Kicking myself for not attending this exhibition.
	11:00pm coelacanth∅: yeah rw one day you'll get home with a bag of yummy apples and hay, your lovely mare and Sam's horse-thief are nowhere in sight
	11:04pm coelacanth∅: this year has been like 2016 so far, with so many musician deaths
	11:04pm wmbogart: I really hope some of his LabVIEW heartbeat recordings get released someday. I see they had an excerpt as part of the exhibit but I'm not aware of any public release (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong!)
	🥁 11:05pm WR: an exhibit of similar works is currently in Baltimore I think and will then be at a NYC gallery this summer.
	11:11pm coelacanth∅: WR Thanks for sharing those pix
	11:13pm Sam Segal: I still haven't seen the documentary that came out about Milford Graves a few years ago, but I've heard great things.
	11:18pm chresti: I'm here, some shifty horse was showing me pictures.
	11:18pm wmbogart: If you find the time, I really recommend it. I've watched it a few times since they put it out. He had a lot to teach us, even beyond the incredible musicianship.
	11:20pm Sam Segal: I definitely will. I want to learn more about his martial arts practice, which I assume gets covered, given the title of the doc ("Full Mantis").
	11:26pm Dean: Saw Graves with John Zorn at Vision Festival. Saw Corea with Return to Forever at the Music Center in LA. Can't quite get my head around the fact that we're losing these people.
	11:28pm wmbogart: It does @Sam. I don't know the first thing about martial arts personally, but I think you'll enjoy it if you do.
	11:30pm Sam Segal: Agreed, Dean. When I've seen a musician play live, the loss always feels deeper to me.
	11:33pm chresti: That looks like a nice show, thanks WR!
	11:37pm Doug Schulkind: Mucho Milford hooray! Thanks, Mr. Segal! I see you started off the show with Montego Joe. Did you know he had a show on WFMU?! His last year was my first at the station, 1987.
	🥁 11:37pm WR: glad to share. The sculptures are just a facet of his investigation into heartbeat and body electropulse energy.
	11:39pm doctorjazz: Hi all! Looks like I have to catch this show in the archived! Here to take it out!
	11:43pm Sam Segal: Wow, Doug, I had no idea! Did he go by the name Montego Joe on air? Or his given name Roger Sanders?
	11:43pm Sam Segal: Doc! Glad you could make it for the tail end live.
	11:44pm Dean: Interviewed Lewis's spouse, the marvelously eccentric Miya Masaoka, at my apartment near Berkeley many years ago. Later, Lewis assigned a paper I published for one of his classes at Columbia.
	11:45pm coelacanth∅: i remember Montego Joe's fmu show. i never considered it was the same Montego Joe!
	11:46pm coelacanth∅: greetings doc
	11:47pm Sam Segal: @Dean, I am not familiar with Miya Masaoka's work. Just scanned her wiki page and it looks really interesting. Will have to investigate further.
	11:47pm doctorjazz: Hey, Coel, Dean, all toy Equestrians!
	11:49pm Dean: Miya has few boundaries, musically speaking. A buddy of mine made a movie that briefly featured her, the content deriving from the interview in my apartment. I really enjoy her Monk tribute with Cyrille and Workman. Saw her in W. Hollywood many years ago.
	11:50pm wmbogart: @Dean Wow!!! I'm in an apartment near Berkeley right now, but I've never done anything nearly as cool. Is your interview published anywhere?
	11:51pm Doug Schulkind: He went by Montego Joe. I can’t say I remember much about his show.
	11:53pm Dean: @wmbogart, This is one of those amazing circumstances that proves there are no mere coincidences. I'm sure you're listening for many of the same reasons I listen. Thus, we self-select WFMU and Berkeley or environs! Paper is here: http://www.improvcommunity.ca/sites/improvcommunity.ca/files/research_collection/407/Improvisation_Urban_Planning.pdf
	11:56pm fun fact∅: Montego Joe played percussion on cat scratch fever
	11:58pm Sam Segal: Wow, that is a fun fact, Fun Fact!
	11:59pm wmbogart: Wow @Dean, this is a super interesting intersection. I'm going to sit down and read through it tonight. I've always felt that Peter Brotzmann is woefully undercited in urban theory.
	12:01am Sam Segal: Going to let this piece finish. Feel free to stick with me for another 5 mins.
	12:01am Dean: The paper was published in the first online issue of an ongoing journal out of Guelph. You might find the connections you seek there.
	12:02am Dean: George Lewis wrote the introductory piece for that first issue, by the way.
	12:06am wmbogart: And I see Pauline Oliveros was in that issue too! Feels like Mills is always represented one way or another.
	12:07am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! take care stablemates
	12:07am doctorjazz: Thanks, Sam (will catch the rest of the show tomorrow-that's why God pot a space between Testify andv Explorers Room)
	🥁 12:07am WR: out of the shower just in time to say thank you Sam! Laters all.
	12:08am chresti: Thanks Sam! Goodnight!
	🥁 8:30am DL in LA: Stellar Chick Corea set! Thanks Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from February 17, 2021

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